What are your thoughts on Lioness? Did you like the series? Do you think it has the potential to replace Yellowstone? Let me know what you think in the comments below.
Have you watched the champions of women’s MMA? Then you know they are capable of physically destroying most humans walking this earth under certain conditions. They are not anonymous anymore. This story IS BASED off an actual program.
I don’t think it can replace Yellowstone but I really love the show so far. It’s a very good show and my husband and I can’t wait for see the next episode.
After watching the Terminal List, Lioness has certainly been entertaining, but it's a huge streeeeeeeetch for the super heroin soldiers they are trying to portray. Some realism would do wonders.
19 pull-ups, 3 for a women is very good. 50 push up, such bs. They making to the men and women have the same strength. Feminist clap trap is what itnis
This show is based and grounded, "There are always someone stronger" is more true to life than" You can be whatever you want". Sometimes when a show is disconnected to reality and delusional, nothing's at stake and it becomes a joke regardless of the story or genre.
You’re comparing it way too much to Yellowstone. They’re totally different shows. And their settings have a lot to do with that also. On its own, this show is a great spy action thriller that puts our main 2 leads in some positions where they have to make tough decisions
I am a really big fan of Taylor Sheridan but he is letting his fans down - 1 show at a time. He started Yellowstone and that is going by the wayside quick. Then he started the prequel to Yellowstone 1883 and then the other prequel 1923, Toledo King, Mayor of Kingstown and now Special Ops Lioness and they're all hanging. I watched the Sons of Anarchy whole series and own all the seasons. I own or have watched most of the movies he's written. I love watching his cutting horses and the competitions but am scared to start the 6666 series because I'm afraid that it'll go down the tube. Why doesn't he just do movies - he seems to do better at completing them.
He didn't put Yellowstone on the wayside. There is a few reasons why Yellowstone is being delayed. There's a writer's and actor strike going on which is causing problems for a lot of shows. Then there is Kevin Costner, he's pretty much abandoned the show so that is a big part of the problem. Taylor is doing a fantastic job especially with this new series and mayor of kingstown. He's only working with what he's got. Yellowstone is not over just delayed.
The show is great. Taylor is one hell of a writer, And he’s able to draw you into the characters seamlessly. Being a fan of someone doesn’t mean you’re going to like everything they do. Let’s give it time, Or least get through half of the season first. Many of my favorite Tv series didn’t start out too great but ended up being amazing. The same could happen here. Hope you enjoy your week, :)
The man has to get in his Hollywood points 😂 the use of lead women felt forced. But what I truly appreciated was the peeling back of the true reason behind war.
Whoa one. Im conservative and unlike the lies being told a lot of us guys like strong females that kick butt. Cruz rocks and you need to hang out with some cool strong females more often
This show is so ridiculous... How is it that they can come up with a show? But they can't come up with season five of yellowstone Or nineteen twenty three But yet they can come out with a new Show.... And I don't see this getting much ratings Actually I don't really see any of taylor sheridan shows Getting much ratings.... He pretty much abandoned us yellowstone Fans and family So I don't really get what's the point of this new Show....
without getting into politics have to say Taylor Sheridan really knows the formula of making entertaining shows, this one included.. wish all episodes were released so I could just binge it,, can't wait for ep4!!
I'm LOVING this series! Finally! A show where most of the women are badasses. Not military fru frus who never bleed, bruise or even stub their toe. Having been military connected for most of my life, I can appreciate this series.
good to see am not getting too old and still have a clue. someone sees things same way i do. show seems like a cliche to me. why is nicole kidman's character even in this thing?
When you say "Lioness" is "sexist", "racist", about a "White Savior", and "American exceptionalism" all I can think is: "You Keep Using That Word, I Do Not Think It Means What You Think It Means". Lioness is a compelling drama about an American of Afro-Latina descent (Zoe Saldaña as Joe), and an American woman of Mexican and Syrian descent (Laysla De Oliveira as Cruz Manuelos) who has been brutalized by men, in America, since her mother died when she was 13. It's an indictment of America, so if you think this is American exceptionalism you have no idea what the term means. Unlike sheltered people whose ideas of the world come only from academia, where courses are typically taught by people who are also sheltered from the world, I'm an ethnic, religious (and in much of the world, racial) minority who grew up working class. I'm also a federal appellate attorney who is appointed to represent indigent clients. I've personally known and professionally represented many young women like Cruz Manuelos. Often the best thing for these women is to join the military; the military can become the family they never had and they can learn to focus their justifiable rage and protect others in a way they were never protected. Lioness is a compelling drama that isn't sexist or racist, just the opposite. How you've concluded that two women, one a Latina, and the other an Afro-Latina, are "White Saviors" is so inexplicable it borders on being totally unhinged. Finally, in case you didn't guess, I'm not a conservative, or a leftist, or a right-wing ideologue; I'm a traditional liberal who tries to help people any way he can. I'm all from women joining the military if it helps them. Everyone else, no matter what their politics are, should be too.
The reviewer sounds like a young man (however that’s defined now), possibly Caucasian, and likely college educated given the use of his postmodernist language.
How will we know when the next episodes are going to be released due to the strike? This is just getting started and we need to know more before judging.😮
I didn’t want to devote any time to this show until the the whole series was available but you’re so right, major letdown, the whole 1883,1923 and Yellowstone are my favorites; even Kingstown was meh but wow this is what happens when you spread yourself out too much. A great movie that was done about covert women was a movie called Red sparrow, now that was a good movie . I likely won’t watch this but wanted to hear someone else steer me away.
You are 100% right about how they made it way too easy for her to befriend the terrorist's daughter. It seemed like such a baffling writing decision. They had an opportunity to create some good drama and character dynamics (rather than just action, action, action) by making her work harder to achieve that friendship and it could have been an interesting exploration of female friendship dynamics. Instead they did nothing with it and by episode 3 they have turned it into a cliche "plain awkward girl gets a makeover after befriending the cool rich girls" story, which could have been made interesting in its own way if it felt earned, but it all happened too quickly...not sure if I will continue this show. The pro-military angle doesn't really bother me since I have come to expect that from American media.
Ehmm I beg to disagree. If anything us women tend to become friends lightning fast sometimes. Plus they took interest in each other since the beginning in a more romantic way. The lesbian U-haul trope is sadly true for the most part😂 it actually makes a lot of sense that they became close FAST 😂
I think it really gives a wrapped view of close female relationships. Not everyone who has a best close friend has to end up in a homosexual relationship with them. This show had a bunch of stereo typical anti male undertones.
It is obvious they did not do a realistic job oh the initial meeting between Aaliyah and Cruz, just bump into someone in a store and instant friendship begins. No. But I forgive because they had to move things along. There were other miscues, but a tv show can’t move at the pace of real life. You’d be bored crazy and the shows would be endlessly long.
I liked the series overall. I wish the dialogue was better. The daughter was annoying, and the parenting or lack thereof was so bad and unrealistic. Also, the casting of the Cruz character was puzzling. She's supposed to be physically strong, but it's apparent she isn't. Her arms were shaking when she was doing pushups with her skinny arms. But like I said, I still like it.
Got to disagree. Nice to see good actresses playing strong yet flawed female characters. And I don’t see at all how Joe is John Dutton. John is all about family and the ranch, he sets his own moral code then holds this impossibly high bar for his children. Joe is barely hanging onto her family, and has realized their lives don’t revolve around her or her opinions. My favorite is the actress playing Cruz - she has great range. She really makes you feel when she’s in pain or struggling or scared. Excited to see where the show goes!
Its waaaaay to early to judge a new show like Lioness to a fully established show like Lioness. My first impressions however are very positive. The way the main character is tortured is positively ambivalent. The setup with her befriending the terrorists' wife so easily is admittedly a bit constructed, but compared to Mission Impossible this show is outright realistic. I am expecting more moral ambivalence and grey areas as the show progresses, and could see it not as clear-cut Pro American/Islamophobic as you make it out to be. But of course that is hard to say after 2 episodes.
I like what you said about the filters and production value, but you are dead wrong. The real value is in episode three; it's one of the best shows on TV. The exchange between Nicole Kidman and her husband speaks about the media so accurately that I am using the analysis in one of my books. Your bias from your education is coming out in your analysis. Watch episode 3. You've got a good head; use it. Turn down the hyper-criticism and turn up the messaging filtration. The writer is commenting on US society from pillar to post in his shows, examining everything from gang violence to the war on terror. He has explored Yellowstone and said what he needed to say. The rest is just you all wanting more. Be empathetic to the creator; as an artist, he wants to put down one painting and start another. The issues and themes he wants to explore as a writer do not change the yellow filters and bombed-out decertified lenses that the rest of the team views the Middle East from. Just remember, everyone is smarter than they have been given credit for. This is the arrogance of the West that he is exposing. The operative in the show is smarter than we think, and the playmaker Nicole Kidman is rebuked by her husband for poisoning the media with so much messaging that the truth is no longer believed. That is an important message.
It's a fcuking cartoon with women pretending to be bad ass special ops soldiers and little or no consideration for how actual operations are conducted. Entertaining yes, but it basically a a somewhat woke comic book thus far.
I am a diehard fan of Yellowstone. When you have your hand into many pots you are not concentrating on any. Sheridan is a big disappointment. I will not watch anything he produces anymore. Turning off the tv is my best choice of anything he puts on tv.😮
LOL. I will give people the Cliff's Notes version of this "review". "This show is terrible because it doesn't embrace the liberal politically correct agenda for 2023..." This is all I need to tell me that this will be a massive hit. I look forward to starting it probably tonight. Nothing sells something better than a whiney liberal bitching that it isn't liberal enough for them.
Does anyone ever think that just maybe Nicole Kidman is just a pretty face and has no talent? I cant remember 1 movie where i was like WOW NK killed it. Maybe the Interpreter and dojt say Eyes wide shut cause that was all Tom.
I dont know what the term is when you try to re-represent history, but thats what it is. Its nothing more then garbage. The show needed to add soft core fetish porn to make up for its lack of substance. You can see the same content on a porn site.
Lioness is one of the worst things I have watched in a while I will not finish the season. If you brains are slowly dripping out you ears then this might be the show for you. It obviously has a big budget and that is it. If you like a good narrative and believable characters avoid this sham.
Sheridan obviously made his choice so now I'm gonna make mine. Click. Yeah that's me changing the channel and forgetting Sheridan's name. GOODBYE & GOOD RIDDANCE Drunken Soldiers don't move me at ALL❤️🧡💛💚🩵💜
What are your thoughts on Lioness? Did you like the series? Do you think it has the potential to replace Yellowstone? Let me know what you think in the comments below.
Have you watched the champions of women’s MMA? Then you know they are capable of physically destroying most humans walking this earth under certain conditions.
They are not anonymous anymore. This story IS BASED off an actual program.
Just need you to pay attention to what’s truly happening
I agree it's a massive step down from Yellowstone. Mastiff step down
I don’t think it can replace Yellowstone but I really love the show so far. It’s a very good show and my husband and I can’t wait for see the next episode.
After watching the Terminal List, Lioness has certainly been entertaining, but it's a huge streeeeeeeetch for the super heroin soldiers they are trying to portray. Some realism would do wonders.
I totally disagree! Hubby and I loved lioness and can’t wait for the 3rd episode! It’s is a awesome show!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I couldn’t agree more!! My wife and I really enjoyed it so far.
@@erwinrosales6707cuz this lame ass shit is made for female white nationalist who love Amerikkka
Betaaaaaa!!*
Yes suck down that state propaganda like a good little sheep
19 pull-ups, 3 for a women is very good. 50 push up, such bs. They making to the men and women have the same strength. Feminist clap trap is what itnis
HooRa brother
This show is based and grounded, "There are always someone stronger" is more true to life than" You can be whatever you want". Sometimes when a show is disconnected to reality and delusional, nothing's at stake and it becomes a joke regardless of the story or genre.
A surgeon Single Dad husband who cooks dinner after she left for 6 months… What planet is this???
Haha 🤣. Exactly my thoughts. Then the asset can do 114 push ups in 10 mins her physique doesn't show.
doesnt have too lol@@martinkarori7203
A regular woman does 15 pull ups ya right 🤣
And 114 pull ups in 10 mins
You’re comparing it way too much to Yellowstone. They’re totally different shows. And their settings have a lot to do with that also. On its own, this show is a great spy action thriller that puts our main 2 leads in some positions where they have to make tough decisions
I am a really big fan of Taylor Sheridan but he is letting his fans down - 1 show at a time. He started Yellowstone and that is going by the wayside quick. Then he started the prequel to Yellowstone 1883 and then the other prequel 1923, Toledo King, Mayor of Kingstown and now Special Ops Lioness and they're all hanging. I watched the Sons of Anarchy whole series and own all the seasons. I own or have watched most of the movies he's written. I love watching his cutting horses and the competitions but am
scared to start the 6666 series because I'm afraid that it'll go down the tube. Why doesn't he just do movies - he seems to do better at completing them.
He didn't put Yellowstone on the wayside. There is a few reasons why Yellowstone is being delayed. There's a writer's and actor strike going on which is causing problems for a lot of shows. Then there is Kevin Costner, he's pretty much abandoned the show so that is a big part of the problem. Taylor is doing a fantastic job especially with this new series and mayor of kingstown. He's only working with what he's got. Yellowstone is not over just delayed.
The show is great. Taylor is one hell of a writer, And he’s able to draw you into the characters seamlessly. Being a fan of someone doesn’t mean you’re going to like everything they do. Let’s give it time, Or least get through half of the season first. Many of my favorite Tv series didn’t start out too great but ended up being amazing. The same could happen here. Hope you enjoy your week, :)
Well fucking said brother for real your spot on anyone that denies what you said is only lying to themselves🫡💯👏👏
It’s an amazing fucking show
The man has to get in his Hollywood points 😂 the use of lead women felt forced. But what I truly appreciated was the peeling back of the true reason behind war.
I did not like it very much disappointed.
Whoa one. Im conservative and unlike the lies being told a lot of us guys like strong females that kick butt. Cruz rocks and you need to hang out with some cool strong females more often
Yellowstone, i don't think so. So fare nothings come close...😮
This show is so ridiculous... How is it that they can come up with a show? But they can't come up with season five of yellowstone Or nineteen twenty three But yet they can come out with a new Show.... And I don't see this getting much ratings Actually I don't really see any of taylor sheridan shows Getting much ratings.... He pretty much abandoned us yellowstone Fans and family So I don't really get what's the point of this new Show....
He didn't abandon nobody Kevin Costner abandon Yellowstone. Do ur research.
Same level of ridiculousness as the show: "Without Remorse"
The SEAL Commander was a female? 😅😂
Haha exactly, howwww fam.
without getting into politics have to say Taylor Sheridan really knows the formula of making entertaining shows, this one included.. wish all episodes were released so I could just binge it,, can't wait for ep4!!
SEAL Team dies this topic so much better. Sheridan needs to get back to Yellowstone and finish it and 1923, 6666.
I'm LOVING this series!
Finally! A show where most of the women are badasses. Not military fru frus who never bleed, bruise or even stub their toe. Having been military connected for most of my life, I can appreciate this series.
Really loved this show
I couldn't get threw this review. Won't be coming back. Lioness is a great show.
I could not disagree more. This is an amazing show.
A single surgeon dad who cooks dinner after wife left to go work for days on end , what a fuckin role model for dad's...❤❤❤❤
It's entertaining for Hollywood.
As for Kidman, she went so deep into Botox or what ever she uses, that there is no way around she could deliver a good portion of acting nowadays U_U
Lioness is excellent.
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
good to see am not getting too old and still have a clue. someone sees things same way i do. show seems like a cliche to me. why is nicole kidman's character even in this thing?
De Oliveira stands shadows Saldana’s acting. I agree on the quickly bff relationship with the daughter and Nicole Kidman not so great.
Tell me you’re liberal without telling me you’re liberal
I think it's a great show after 3 episodes. I dont expect it to be Yellowstone, its totally different and I am pretty sure he planned that...
I love this show!!!!
3 episodes in and I'm hooked.
When you say "Lioness" is "sexist", "racist", about a "White Savior", and "American exceptionalism" all I can think is: "You Keep Using That Word, I Do Not Think It Means What You Think It Means". Lioness is a compelling drama about an American of Afro-Latina descent (Zoe Saldaña as Joe), and an American woman of Mexican and Syrian descent (Laysla De Oliveira as Cruz Manuelos) who has been brutalized by men, in America, since her mother died when she was 13. It's an indictment of America, so if you think this is American exceptionalism you have no idea what the term means. Unlike sheltered people whose ideas of the world come only from academia, where courses are typically taught by people who are also sheltered from the world, I'm an ethnic, religious (and in much of the world, racial) minority who grew up working class. I'm also a federal appellate attorney who is appointed to represent indigent clients. I've personally known and professionally represented many young women like Cruz Manuelos. Often the best thing for these women is to join the military; the military can become the family they never had and they can learn to focus their justifiable rage and protect others in a way they were never protected. Lioness is a compelling drama that isn't sexist or racist, just the opposite. How you've concluded that two women, one a Latina, and the other an Afro-Latina, are "White Saviors" is so inexplicable it borders on being totally unhinged. Finally, in case you didn't guess, I'm not a conservative, or a leftist, or a right-wing ideologue; I'm a traditional liberal who tries to help people any way he can. I'm all from women joining the military if it helps them. Everyone else, no matter what their politics are, should be too.
The reviewer sounds like a young man (however that’s defined now), possibly Caucasian, and likely college educated given the use of his postmodernist language.
Loved it can’t wait for season 2
How will we know when the next episodes are going to be released due to the strike? This is just getting started and we need to know more before judging.😮
Cliche is pronounced 'clih-shey'.
Love this show , yes its women in the marines but at least they are out there and being seen , and being visible is important
I just finished season 1. I loved it.
Lioness is outstanding
Yellowstone as much as I enjoyed it became to like Dallas
I didn’t want to devote any time to this show until the the whole series was available but you’re so right, major letdown, the whole 1883,1923 and Yellowstone are my favorites; even Kingstown was meh but wow this is what happens when you spread yourself out too much. A great movie that was done about covert women was a movie called Red sparrow, now that was a good movie . I likely won’t watch this but wanted to hear someone else steer me away.
You are 100% right about how they made it way too easy for her to befriend the terrorist's daughter. It seemed like such a baffling writing decision. They had an opportunity to create some good drama and character dynamics (rather than just action, action, action) by making her work harder to achieve that friendship and it could have been an interesting exploration of female friendship dynamics. Instead they did nothing with it and by episode 3 they have turned it into a cliche "plain awkward girl gets a makeover after befriending the cool rich girls" story, which could have been made interesting in its own way if it felt earned, but it all happened too quickly...not sure if I will continue this show. The pro-military angle doesn't really bother me since I have come to expect that from American media.
EP 6 it makes sense why they are fast friends
Ehmm I beg to disagree. If anything us women tend to become friends lightning fast sometimes. Plus they took interest in each other since the beginning in a more romantic way. The lesbian U-haul trope is sadly true for the most part😂 it actually makes a lot of sense that they became close FAST 😂
It's almost like there's more to the story...
I think it really gives a wrapped view of close female relationships. Not everyone who has a best close friend has to end up in a homosexual relationship with them. This show had a bunch of stereo typical anti male undertones.
It is obvious they did not do a realistic job oh the initial meeting between Aaliyah and Cruz, just bump into someone in a store and instant friendship begins. No. But I forgive because they had to move things along. There were other miscues, but a tv show can’t move at the pace of real life. You’d be bored crazy and the shows would be endlessly long.
I liked the series overall. I wish the dialogue was better. The daughter was annoying, and the parenting or lack thereof was so bad and unrealistic. Also, the casting of the Cruz character was puzzling. She's supposed to be physically strong, but it's apparent she isn't. Her arms were shaking when she was doing pushups with her skinny arms. But like I said, I still like it.
What a terrible review 😂
#1show on Paramount+ it's doing fine
This show is not based in reality and yet it tries to pretend it is. Woke crap.... Yellowstone is way better.
Got to disagree. Nice to see good actresses playing strong yet flawed female characters. And I don’t see at all how Joe is John Dutton. John is all about family and the ranch, he sets his own moral code then holds this impossibly high bar for his children. Joe is barely hanging onto her family, and has realized their lives don’t revolve around her or her opinions. My favorite is the actress playing Cruz - she has great range. She really makes you feel when she’s in pain or struggling or scared. Excited to see where the show goes!
Fantastic show. Yall are bugging
Propagando or not, I love lioness!!!
Great show
Its waaaaay to early to judge a new show like Lioness to a fully established show like Lioness. My first impressions however are very positive. The way the main character is tortured is positively ambivalent. The setup with her befriending the terrorists' wife so easily is admittedly a bit constructed, but compared to Mission Impossible this show is outright realistic. I am expecting more moral ambivalence and grey areas as the show progresses, and could see it not as clear-cut Pro American/Islamophobic as you make it out to be. But of course that is hard to say after 2 episodes.
I like what you said about the filters and production value, but you are dead wrong. The real value is in episode three; it's one of the best shows on TV. The exchange between Nicole Kidman and her husband speaks about the media so accurately that I am using the analysis in one of my books. Your bias from your education is coming out in your analysis. Watch episode 3. You've got a good head; use it. Turn down the hyper-criticism and turn up the messaging filtration.
The writer is commenting on US society from pillar to post in his shows, examining everything from gang violence to the war on terror. He has explored Yellowstone and said what he needed to say. The rest is just you all wanting more. Be empathetic to the creator; as an artist, he wants to put down one painting and start another. The issues and themes he wants to explore as a writer do not change the yellow filters and bombed-out decertified lenses that the rest of the team views the Middle East from. Just remember, everyone is smarter than they have been given credit for. This is the arrogance of the West that he is exposing. The operative in the show is smarter than we think, and the playmaker Nicole Kidman is rebuked by her husband for poisoning the media with so much messaging that the truth is no longer believed. That is an important message.
Did you actually watch the episode? Hope your books sells at least a copy.
It's absolutely awesome like 1923.
It's a fcuking cartoon with women pretending to be bad ass special ops soldiers and little or no consideration for how actual operations are conducted. Entertaining yes, but it basically a a somewhat woke comic book thus far.
LIONESS IS 🔥🔥🔥🔥
TOP OF THE LINE SHOW! ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT THE SHOW IS A step down.
Your opinion went out the door when you mispronounced "Cliché" like 8 times in under 2 minutes
I don't like to show and there's no way you can compare it with Yellowstone
I am a diehard fan of Yellowstone. When you have your hand into many pots you are not concentrating on any. Sheridan is a big disappointment. I will not watch anything he produces anymore. Turning off the tv is my best choice of anything he puts on tv.😮
I completely DISAGREE with your review! We absolutely love the show and the story behind it!
LOL. I will give people the Cliff's Notes version of this "review". "This show is terrible because it doesn't embrace the liberal politically correct agenda for 2023..." This is all I need to tell me that this will be a massive hit. I look forward to starting it probably tonight. Nothing sells something better than a whiney liberal bitching that it isn't liberal enough for them.
So what u r saying is most will like if conservative? Ive been looking forward to watch this.
Does anyone ever think that just maybe Nicole Kidman is just a pretty face and has no talent? I cant remember 1 movie where i was like WOW NK killed it.
Maybe the Interpreter and dojt say Eyes wide shut cause that was all Tom.
Top show on Paramount Plus
I believe Yellow stone could have continued without Costner
I dont know what the term is when you try to re-represent history, but thats what it is. Its nothing more then garbage. The show needed to add soft core fetish porn to make up for its lack of substance. You can see the same content on a porn site.
It was a good show until they decided to show the gay scene..😢
Did not enjoy the show at all and agree with the review totally
Great show. Nicole Kidman is the weak link. I don't know what you want, maybe you have a problem with women soldiers or fighting terrorists.
Woke shit. The entire PT scene in first episode is just so damn cringe, it hurts.
Sincerely
A combat medic in the Royal Danish Army.
You are wrong ..lioness is great!
I loved Lioness , it's bloody brilliant, so , love the big parts for women, can5 recommend it enough..❤❤😂😂❤
Incell
Lioness is one of the worst things I have watched in a while I will not finish the season. If you brains are slowly dripping out you ears then this might be the show for you. It obviously has a big budget and that is it. If you like a good narrative and believable characters avoid this sham.
Sheridan obviously made his choice so now I'm gonna make mine. Click. Yeah that's me changing the channel and forgetting Sheridan's name. GOODBYE & GOOD RIDDANCE Drunken Soldiers don't move me at ALL❤️🧡💛💚🩵💜