Many are pointing out that you can also cancel your Charged Attack and still get the Bond and avoid an extra Vaporize. And that's another great option for your setups but it doesn't completely fix the problem for most rotations. Btw don't do it if you have her Signature weapon or you will lose the extra BoL it gives you! Ok now join Discord My Kitten 🫵 discord.gg/uZeRYTU
@Moon0147 With the current abyss you simply don't have enough time to unga bunga unless you want 2 stars over 3. Coppelius shield is annoying, and you have to deal with 3 waves of enemies in 12-2-2, abyss lectors included. This 3 vape tech actually saved me a whopping 30 seconds, and the run became a breeze.
@Moon0147 Ah yes, I'm sure it takes a lot of skill to unga bunga your way through. You don't get both, pick which one you're sticking with. And artifact rng sucks. And didn't I just say how that simple 3 vape tech made the whole difference? This is not even a matter of skill, it's knowledge. I can 36* since 2 years as well, the skill is present, still that doesn't remove the fact it is a royal pain to do it sometimes.
Also a cool little mechanic: Whether she has her Mark on an enemy or not, she will teleport to enemies within reach when using a CA without needing to walk or dash towards them.
First video guide from you I've watched but impressed so far by the little details and tips. A lot of the bigger creators provide solid useful information but more often than not it's quite surface level and generic, so it's really nice to see more nuanced advice getting put out there without having to trawl through TC discords to find it. Overall a clean, crisp video production with no over-the-top music and a clearly spoken and well written narrative, earned a sub from me.
You are the greatest genshin content creator of all time. Your guides on Hoyoverse have led me for many moons and now you're also doing these 7 advanced tip series and the videos are soooo good. You are truly the best.
Yeah, I instantly notice when I didnt vape or swirled pyro and it sucks, the thing is that asíde from the complex setups, high ping can also fck you up and it is not something we can control :/. But vape is very fun nonetheless.
Thank you. Animation cancelling and all the dash things are very new to me since I'm a new player (new to video games in general) but I really want to learn and get better. This video helped me a lot.
Experimenting melt with Arlecchino is the most fun thing to do, especially with constellations Ganyu. I understand vape teams are the easiest to get best dps, but would love to see someone making melt guides.
I forgot to subscribe the first time I saw one of your videos, and youtube never commended you again. Today, for some bloody reason, I got this recommended to me. Not only did I learn something important (in a way!), but I also remembered to subscribe. Thank you for those rotations. I don't really care about rotations, but I'm loving her so much I want to minmax her. Just gotta get good with those, and I'm on my way there. Cheers. c:
This video was worth even just for that second tip, it's ridiculous how much my damage skyrocketed in vape team just by adding those three auto attacks before doing the charge attack
Im amazed at the number of effort , analize , optimisation and thought people use on a SINGLE player game like its WOW or FF14 Ultimate BOSS like you need to fight a boss for 30min non stop with perfect rota to clear an instance or you whole clan will be wipe :D. Very interesting to know , great video , thanks for the optisation.
The icd part literally explains so much , my arle has 70 cr 220 cdmg and like 2.4k atk with jade spear but sometimes she struggles to hit above 80k even though ive seen her easily hit wayyy higher before turns out its because of that 😭 thank u
Great vid. Songs working on Chev is great. I was told it wouldn't. Since Bennett has Noblesse, and she deals nearly no damage, it felt bad to not have a support set for her. I even considered TotM just to buff Oz and to make myself feel better
Another tip for Arle; sometimes when she got no bond of life and the CD of skill is still long, instead of doing white damage or swap out to other teammates, using her Ult is a good idea (even if she doesn't need to heal yet), because it resets her skill CD, so you can immediately cast her E. It's up to you whether you want to immediately absorb the Debt for a quick Pyro infusion, or get back to teammates rotation for a big dmg.
Good video. I want to point out that you can save some time and still get your early vapes by doing an NA on Yelan after her burst, as well as one after Kazuha's hold E. To me it feels less awkward weaving them in earlier in the rotation, since it's one input at a time on characters that can be healed by Bennett.
Great video ! i just got arle last night won 5050 than i got a mona at 30 pity from the blue wish arle gave me im so happy rn i needed mona for my ayaka too :)
No it doesn't! ICD is still counted even if you do Physical damage. I've done so many Coppelia runs for my viewers that I remember that attack by heart haha
Another tip that I found was Arlecchino skill generate 5 pyro particles which is a lot, you can Arlecchino E then swap to xiangling or bennett that is very energy hungry to catch particles
Guys, u can just dodge cancel at the beginning of the charged attack before the attack actually hits. It absorbs BOL without dealing dmg/applying pyro. :)
Yo thank so much for the tips i am now able to vap my first and second normal i went from doing 100k to 154k now that i can vap those hits because this whole time my first and second normal were never Vaping.
one more tip for kazuha vape teams is to do xq or yelan Q N1 then bennet Q N1 but swapping into kazuha to cancel the normal attack animation if you're C6 bennett then hold E on kazuha and then skill on either xq or yelan for big vape damage and to apply hydro again and be able to vape arle's first normal attack
Being used to Hu Tao and usually not getting a pyro swirl if do run anemo. Felt really weird swapping out mid rotation to reapply vv on the next wave of enemies. Only started doing it in her artifact domain this week and it cut my clear times by like 5 seconds. Also to point out, if there are 3 or more enemies marked, you don't need to wait the 5 seconds for your blood debt. Each weak mark consumed gives you 65% bol so 3 enemies get you to the 145% max.
I'm just glad her skill particle generation doesn't have ICD so you can burst whenever to heal and gain most of your energy back If it has internal ICD like Ningguang Jade cover then it would be a real pain in the ass
Very detailed guide. Man the new abyss is brutal, maybe because I forgot how to dodge using Neuvillette, but my C0 Arle get destroyed in two seconds without a shielder.
regarding attack combos, Arlecchino seems to be the only character who is able to walk cancel so early after many of her normal attacks (N3 feels like it has no recovery at all lol, it's pretty insane). it's a small optimization but being able to walk cancel instead of dash cancel, which results in no stamina consumption and a potentially faster combo, can genuinely feel good to do in scenarios where you can pull it off (fyi, walk cancelling is the act of walking forward after recovery to restart a string instead of dashing out of an animation). i'm not sure how it actually feels in vape/melt tho, i play double geo with her so far.
Thankyou so much for the guide. I was really wondering to do vape for the first few BoL normal attack. I couldn't go beyond 75k dmg. I will definitely try this with my vape team. How much EM will be good to get that vape reaction dmg ?
Have a question: At C0-1 the E wait 5 sec charge attack on one enemy is exactly the same like E on 3 enemys and instant charge attack. Which means Its like the C2 blood dept due mark? (without the other buffs obviously) Or is there any benefit with the mark if i do E on 3 enemys wait 5 sec and than charge attack? Havent Arle yet but reading talents confused me, idk.
Yes pretty much. If you Charge Attack right away on 3 enemies it's the same as if you waited the 5s. Max BoL in one CA is either wait 5s, 3 or more enemies or ofc any situation in C2.
@@SevenPls OH RIGHT!! I always wait until my dps is on field before I attack. I really need to make a conscious effort cause I always forget they active with normal attack.
@@jamesraniel1676 Yup but you will get used to it! It's especially good on Yelan because even if you cancel the Normal Attack right away, her Burst will activate. Xingqiu needs to almost swing the entire Normal on some characters.
Trying to settle a debate with my son. I have Arlecchino C1 currently using Deathmatch R5 on her, I’m comfortable with that polearm. Plus Deathmatch looks good on her as well. Son suggests to use my PJW R5 or Scarlet Sands R3 on her instead. Out of the 3 polearms would be better for her? Haven’t pulled for her signature polearm cause figured it would be a waste of primos when I have other polearms with Crit Rate value.
I was being silly today and was seeing how much pyro bonus i could get on arle with kazu on vv and Bennett c6, i got over 200% 😅 so i swapped to an atk% goblet and it was insane!
You can try this rotation: Arle E > XQ QE > Bennett E (dash) Q > Sucrose n2 E > Arle We dash away from enemy with Bennett (Burst should still hit) to avoid Xingqiu applying Hydro to the enemy with his rainswords. Sucrose will then Swirl Pyro with normals and Hydro with the Skill. Xingqiu double swirls setups are very annoying :)
Unless I'm mistaken, it's worth noting that this is only applicable for Bennet C6 teams, since you're technically applying Pyro through his infusion which applies the ICD rule. So, unless you're running characters that infuse your onfield (Bennett, Candace, ans Chongyun) this triple vape tech won't work.
is there a reason why for the initial rotation you ult yelan first instead of skill and ult instead? I find it easier to grab the orbs, or is it to start the uptime from her A4 passive?
@@SevenPls oh thanks, Im just confused on why I see a lot of Q proc first instead of E first. But the Kazuha trick to avoid ulting and save up energy was also very nice. When would you say it's fitting to ult for kazuha instead of just a swirl before absorbing bond?
Thx so much but I don't understand the first Benny N1 in Yelan kaz rotation. Personally, I use another rotation that's a bit more laborious but not necessarily longer, which gives me a consistent vape because it works even if the enemy backs off, unlike the NA : Arle E > Yelan QN1 (+E if I want) > Kaz Q > Benny EQ > Kaz E > Arle...
My Kazuha video has a good setup you can use for characters like Yelan: you can always Swirl Pyro AND Hydro with 1 Hold Skill if done on an enemy with a Hydro aura and inside Bennett Burst. The thing is, with C6 Yelan you want to on-field her a while so it will make the Pyro swirl expire, you are also just killing whatever is there so it probably doesn't matter. Swirl Hydro → Yelan C6 → new wave → Swirl Pyro → Arlecchino, you should still be able to at least Vaporize her initial hits. Also check docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aarinYvPO-G9ivwk27UnYSkKfj-YAUrnlRShFcWQf60/edit?gid=205864093#gid=205864093 but I don't think it has C6 Yelan case.
now what happens if you have c6 Bennett ? Will the rotation still work or will u have move away for the enemy to do the 3NA combo before consuming the BoL?
OMG, I've been doing this 3 hit before CA without knowing that this would make me Vape both my N2 and N3. The only thing in my mind doing N3's first is because I want to put Hydro App on enemies before claiming bond of life to have massive nuke on my N1 only and not to waste BoL by attacking a Pyro applied enemy. I didn't realize that this is a hidden tech lmao 😂❤
the 3 Normal attack doesn't always work... Since her Mark applies Pyro every 3 seconds and while she's normal attacking ( with Hydro from yelan ) in can ruin and vaporize before the charged attack. Any Solution to this ?
Her Mark has a weird ICD that doesn't actually apply Pyro unless you are waiting a lot. Also once you CA you clear it, that shouldn't be the issue. What are you doing exactly?
@@ShuchengCao I made a quick video to show you a setup you can do with yelan kazu c2: ruclips.net/video/erQIeUMugpY/видео.html Basically you want to use Bennett after Kazuha's first Swirl so that you can cancel the Hydro and apply Pyro. It only works in single target. In AoE it's impossible to remove Hydro aura if Kazu Burst is there so you have to Swirl Pyro earlier, but it's fine for quick enemies.
Isnt it better to do N2 CA N5 . This way you'll get n2, n3 and n5 to vape. And a question about yelan. Does her burst hit before or after arlechino normal atks??
Yes but N2CA would only trigger 1 instance of Yelan/Xingqiu and that might not be enough to keep the Hydro aura. Yelan attacks start immediately when starting a Normal hit but generally they take more time to hit than the attack itself.
Great video. I know the burst isn’t that practical at low constellations, but what about c6? The multiplier is insanely high, but it’s still tough to justify it sometimes
I know this is in terms of c0, but doesn’t c2 and c6 make bursting more of a damage gain? Since at that point you can do your rotation, go to Arlecchino at the end, skill, burst, skill again, and then use ca and normals?
Hello, I just want to ask if I'm using Thoma in the Kazuha slot instead of the usual Yelan, Bennett, Kazuha, how is he detrimental to her vapes, does he steal the important vape hits? Or is his application negligible that it doesn't affect the application and her vapes?
Wait why does it vape the next two normal attacks after the charge attack? Wouldn't it only vape the first normal attack and then the second one would be ICD?
The "number of hits" rule does not cancel the "time" rule. It's been 3 hits when her first Normal hits, so it Vaporizes. And it's been 2.5s once the N2 happens, so it Vaporizes as well. The same, for example, happens with Yoimiya. She is always able to Vaporize her N5 and her N1 right after. Because at N5 it's been 3 hits (she has multi-hits) and it Vaporizes. When it restarts it's been 2.5s so it starts again, but this time both rules are reset. Feel free to ask anything if you have some doubt! I didn't want to include this in the video otherwise it would become very confusing lol
The first passive is always active. The second part (the stacks) can be gained by hitting enemies with your Skill (2 stacks per cast + 1 more stack after 5s). Note that you will get stacks only if you are on-field but you can basically play "normally" and it will work.
My Problem is that I keep missing her first 3 big Vapes :( :( .. Do I need to do exactly 3 normal attacks or I can like do 4-5 before the charged attack? I'm losing like on 150k damage every rotation because of this
Yes he can be better for that. Yelan is more damage because of her Ascension Talent that would buff Arlecchino quite a bit but Xingqiu does offer damage reduction and also resistance to interruption.
White Tassel has no problem in that team but if you have a very offensive (non-EM) weapon you could go for it. You can refer to my other video on Arlecchino for some % number on which one is better.
Tell me sir, i m using staff of scarlet sands and guilded dreams set. So how much em do I need to use the full potential of the staff of scarlet sands. Or should I go atk sands instead Btw in my current build 311 em (with em sands) and 1600k atk
It could be ok with Bennett in the team. I wouldn't seek more EM but an ATK Sands might still be better. It's kind of a question for a calculator that has your artifacts and buffs. For me, for example, ATK Sands is better even when playing Scarlet Sands (and I have both a good ATK and EM piece).
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Many are pointing out that you can also cancel your Charged Attack and still get the Bond and avoid an extra Vaporize. And that's another great option for your setups but it doesn't completely fix the problem for most rotations. Btw don't do it if you have her Signature weapon or you will lose the extra BoL it gives you!
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Hi, i have a question. Is staff of the scarlet sands better than her signature weapon in a vape team?
@@doogledang Generally the signature is better even for vape. My full guide on Arle has weapon calcs if you want to see them
Thanks for the tips, my unga bunga brain will never figure that vape tech out on its own.
@Moon0147 With the current abyss you simply don't have enough time to unga bunga unless you want 2 stars over 3. Coppelius shield is annoying, and you have to deal with 3 waves of enemies in 12-2-2, abyss lectors included. This 3 vape tech actually saved me a whopping 30 seconds, and the run became a breeze.
@Moon0147 Ah yes, I'm sure it takes a lot of skill to unga bunga your way through. You don't get both, pick which one you're sticking with. And artifact rng sucks. And didn't I just say how that simple 3 vape tech made the whole difference? This is not even a matter of skill, it's knowledge. I can 36* since 2 years as well, the skill is present, still that doesn't remove the fact it is a royal pain to do it sometimes.
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0:20 this doesnt get enough credit, it looks INSANEEE
Seen it all over yt though
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0:20 this looks so cool, I didn't know her animation took up such a large space
The icd information is actually huge, tysm for that!
Indeed there's a lot of times that I'm not vape and always not vape the 1st and 2nd so it's huge
Yeah hoyo low-key nerfed her after release from 0.5 ICD to 2.5
@@mattsimmons5393 are sure? Since she got released as far as I know it was the standard icd
@@marcusvinicius917 they probably mean the burst energy regeneration icd, it was merfed from 0.5 to 1.5 which isnt even a nerf in technicality.
Oh my god it was that simple the whole time? No weird techs or complicated setups just 3 NAs? Genius
Yup. 3 normals, charge attack then 2 normals with the highest vaporize multipliers.
Also a cool little mechanic: Whether she has her Mark on an enemy or not, she will teleport to enemies within reach when using a CA without needing to walk or dash towards them.
Yup it's really good rather than dashing towards enemy, also it have quite high range so you can quickly go towards enemies that are quite far
her CA also doesnt spend any bond of life
First video guide from you I've watched but impressed so far by the little details and tips. A lot of the bigger creators provide solid useful information but more often than not it's quite surface level and generic, so it's really nice to see more nuanced advice getting put out there without having to trawl through TC discords to find it.
Overall a clean, crisp video production with no over-the-top music and a clearly spoken and well written narrative, earned a sub from me.
Thank you so much for translating that vape tech. It helped me juggle her vape attacks more efficiently in the abyss.
You are the greatest genshin content creator of all time. Your guides on Hoyoverse have led me for many moons and now you're also doing these 7 advanced tip series and the videos are soooo good. You are truly the best.
Thank youuu!
i did notice that if u don’t vape/ melt and or crit the first few hits, it feels so bad and unsatisfying knowing u missed out on like 100k damage
Yeah, I instantly notice when I didnt vape or swirled pyro and it sucks, the thing is that asíde from the complex setups, high ping can also fck you up and it is not something we can control :/. But vape is very fun nonetheless.
Thank you. Animation cancelling and all the dash things are very new to me since I'm a new player (new to video games in general) but I really want to learn and get better. This video helped me a lot.
Experimenting melt with Arlecchino is the most fun thing to do, especially with constellations Ganyu. I understand vape teams are the easiest to get best dps, but would love to see someone making melt guides.
The day we got a character who can apply cyro fast, all pyro dps gonna break the game for sure. Im thinking about tsaritsa.
@harfi212 there's already charlotte to apply cryo the same way nahida does
@@nobody-xh6ii lol no
@@nobody-xh6ii nahida doesn't have icd but charlotte does so she's kinda useless for melts
@@nobody-xh6ii nope, Charlotte was too short and slow. Im thinking about it can last atleast 15 second & fast apply.
I forgot to subscribe the first time I saw one of your videos, and youtube never commended you again. Today, for some bloody reason, I got this recommended to me. Not only did I learn something important (in a way!), but I also remembered to subscribe.
Thank you for those rotations. I don't really care about rotations, but I'm loving her so much I want to minmax her. Just gotta get good with those, and I'm on my way there.
Cheers. c:
Thank you and good luck!!
This is the best. Thank you for clarification about her ICD !
Small channels sometimes bring the most banger content.
Good job man.
Thank you for the redemption code in the video description
Whats the rewards?
N3D sounds really exciting to try! Thanks to your quality content
This video was worth even just for that second tip, it's ridiculous how much my damage skyrocketed in vape team just by adding those three auto attacks before doing the charge attack
That rotation image is great, I'll be trying that out in the new abyss today
Im amazed at the number of effort , analize , optimisation and thought people use on a SINGLE player game like its WOW or FF14 Ultimate BOSS like you need to fight a boss for 30min non stop with perfect rota to clear an instance or you whole clan will be wipe :D.
Very interesting to know , great video , thanks for the optisation.
Great video, as always Mr. Seven! I love that you added the double 5* weapon pull at the end. I was there and what a day it was, indeed! :))
these are very informative and easy to digest. thank you,
The icd part literally explains so much , my arle has 70 cr 220 cdmg and like 2.4k atk with jade spear but sometimes she struggles to hit above 80k even though ive seen her easily hit wayyy higher before turns out its because of that 😭 thank u
I'm a newcomer. Your guide is really nice and decent. Can't wait for ur next videos.
Thank you! Yelan and Emilie are next :)
Amazing video! keep up the good work up. We love videos like this fr!
i love how CA + N1 make her able to close in on an enemy so quick
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Good for you to link the other video💕
Wow this is why my vape team underperformed! Great analysis going to use that next!
Great vid. Songs working on Chev is great. I was told it wouldn't. Since Bennett has Noblesse, and she deals nearly no damage, it felt bad to not have a support set for her. I even considered TotM just to buff Oz and to make myself feel better
Another tip for Arle; sometimes when she got no bond of life and the CD of skill is still long, instead of doing white damage or swap out to other teammates, using her Ult is a good idea (even if she doesn't need to heal yet), because it resets her skill CD, so you can immediately cast her E. It's up to you whether you want to immediately absorb the Debt for a quick Pyro infusion, or get back to teammates rotation for a big dmg.
Thanks for the tip seven I was looking for this guide for using yelan in team
Good video. I want to point out that you can save some time and still get your early vapes by doing an NA on Yelan after her burst, as well as one after Kazuha's hold E. To me it feels less awkward weaving them in earlier in the rotation, since it's one input at a time on characters that can be healed by Bennett.
The vape tech is actually really smart lmao.. Very useful for minmaxers
Coincise and informative as always 👍🏻
Awesome video! I don’t have arle but still enjoyed it
Great video ! i just got arle last night won 5050 than i got a mona at 30 pity from the blue wish arle gave me im so happy rn i needed mona for my ayaka too :)
Yoooo congrats!!
New subscriber here. Your content is amazong, good work dude!!
This was insanely insightful
2:00 does c6 bennett affect this?
7:15 that was a sick dodge, didnt even have to look at the projectile
No it doesn't! ICD is still counted even if you do Physical damage.
I've done so many Coppelia runs for my viewers that I remember that attack by heart haha
Another tip that I found was Arlecchino skill generate 5 pyro particles which is a lot, you can Arlecchino E then swap to xiangling or bennett that is very energy hungry to catch particles
my brain can't comprehend so i'll keep my overload team
I kinda of comprehend, but I feel like I'm just having similar damage output for less work with Just Chev+Electro+Electro/Pyro than with Vape
Negative iq
Guys, u can just dodge cancel at the beginning of the charged attack before the attack actually hits. It absorbs BOL without dealing dmg/applying pyro. :)
I hit 200k with my c0 skyward arlechinno thanks to you ❤
Heck yeah =.=
Yo thank so much for the tips i am now able to vap my first and second normal i went from doing 100k to 154k now that i can vap those hits because this whole time my first and second normal were never Vaping.
one more tip for kazuha vape teams is to do xq or yelan Q N1 then bennet Q N1 but swapping into kazuha to cancel the normal attack animation if you're C6 bennett then hold E on kazuha and then skill on either xq or yelan for big vape damage and to apply hydro again and be able to vape arle's first normal attack
W tips like always ty brother
Being used to Hu Tao and usually not getting a pyro swirl if do run anemo. Felt really weird swapping out mid rotation to reapply vv on the next wave of enemies. Only started doing it in her artifact domain this week and it cut my clear times by like 5 seconds.
Also to point out, if there are 3 or more enemies marked, you don't need to wait the 5 seconds for your blood debt. Each weak mark consumed gives you 65% bol so 3 enemies get you to the 145% max.
I'm just glad her skill particle generation doesn't have ICD so you can burst whenever to heal and gain most of your energy back
If it has internal ICD like Ningguang Jade cover then it would be a real pain in the ass
Very detailed guide.
Man the new abyss is brutal, maybe because I forgot how to dodge using Neuvillette, but my C0 Arle get destroyed in two seconds without a shielder.
regarding attack combos, Arlecchino seems to be the only character who is able to walk cancel so early after many of her normal attacks (N3 feels like it has no recovery at all lol, it's pretty insane). it's a small optimization but being able to walk cancel instead of dash cancel, which results in no stamina consumption and a potentially faster combo, can genuinely feel good to do in scenarios where you can pull it off (fyi, walk cancelling is the act of walking forward after recovery to restart a string instead of dashing out of an animation). i'm not sure how it actually feels in vape/melt tho, i play double geo with her so far.
Ty Father Seven owo ❤
actually valuable information, earned a sub
Btw she can heal by Bennet for example when the 30 sec ends
Thankyou so much for the guide. I was really wondering to do vape for the first few BoL normal attack. I couldn't go beyond 75k dmg. I will definitely try this with my vape team.
How much EM will be good to get that vape reaction dmg ?
A few subs to a couple hundred EM can be ok to be honest. She doesn't seem EM that much even in vaporize but of course it depends.
Have a question:
At C0-1 the E wait 5 sec charge attack on one enemy is exactly the same like E on 3 enemys and instant charge attack.
Which means Its like the C2 blood dept due mark? (without the other buffs obviously)
Or is there any benefit with the mark if i do E on 3 enemys wait 5 sec and than charge attack?
Havent Arle yet but reading talents confused me, idk.
Yes pretty much. If you Charge Attack right away on 3 enemies it's the same as if you waited the 5s.
Max BoL in one CA is either wait 5s, 3 or more enemies or ofc any situation in C2.
great video, thanks!
Actually a detailed explanation of using kazuha and sucrose with arlecchino would be nice
Kazuha tips video has something like that
That triple vape tech is firee I do that tooo🤫🤫🤫
8:47 Why do you need N1 almost after every action??
Sorry if stupid question.
No problem! It's to trigger Yelan or Xingqiu bursts often. You would do that in almost any team they are in, after using their bursts.
@@SevenPls OH RIGHT!! I always wait until my dps is on field before I attack.
I really need to make a conscious effort cause I always forget they active with normal attack.
@@jamesraniel1676 Yup but you will get used to it! It's especially good on Yelan because even if you cancel the Normal Attack right away, her Burst will activate. Xingqiu needs to almost swing the entire Normal on some characters.
ah yes been waiting for this
Trying to settle a debate with my son. I have Arlecchino C1 currently using Deathmatch R5 on her, I’m comfortable with that polearm. Plus Deathmatch looks good on her as well. Son suggests to use my PJW R5 or Scarlet Sands R3 on her instead. Out of the 3 polearms would be better for her? Haven’t pulled for her signature polearm cause figured it would be a waste of primos when I have other polearms with Crit Rate value.
R3 scarlet is a lot better for vape teams and R5 jade is the best for anything else
Absolutely use the 5 stars! Especially since you have them refined. Scarlet for vaporize and PJWS everywhere else
Thanks, I appreciate the info.
thank you so much for this! new subscriber here
Thanks for subbing!
i think the fact that she can easily integrate xl driving intto her combos is somewhat relevant
I was being silly today and was seeing how much pyro bonus i could get on arle with kazu on vv and Bennett c6, i got over 200% 😅 so i swapped to an atk% goblet and it was insane!
Can anyone explain the sucrose and xingqiu team's rotation, I can't seem to swirl pyro.
You can try this rotation: Arle E > XQ QE > Bennett E (dash) Q > Sucrose n2 E > Arle
We dash away from enemy with Bennett (Burst should still hit) to avoid Xingqiu applying Hydro to the enemy with his rainswords. Sucrose will then Swirl Pyro with normals and Hydro with the Skill. Xingqiu double swirls setups are very annoying :)
GREAT VIDEO DAD
you can also just cancel the charged attack with a dash and still absorb the mark
You speak so well
Also, I love META players❤
Unless I'm mistaken, it's worth noting that this is only applicable for Bennet C6 teams, since you're technically applying Pyro through his infusion which applies the ICD rule.
So, unless you're running characters that infuse your onfield (Bennett, Candace, ans Chongyun) this triple vape tech won't work.
ICD is counted regardless, even if it's physical damage. You can tell by the Hu Tao clip at 2:26
thx man, just got her
is there a reason why for the initial rotation you ult yelan first instead of skill and ult instead? I find it easier to grab the orbs, or is it to start the uptime from her A4 passive?
Yes I did it for extra DMG buff and an extra Burst proc (via Skill) but both approaches are good and doing E>Q for energy is very common.
@@SevenPls oh thanks, Im just confused on why I see a lot of Q proc first instead of E first. But the Kazuha trick to avoid ulting and save up energy was also very nice. When would you say it's fitting to ult for kazuha instead of just a swirl before absorbing bond?
So what is the double swirl setup if you have C2 Yelan + Kazuha?
Thx so much but I don't understand the first Benny N1 in Yelan kaz rotation. Personally, I use another rotation that's a bit more laborious but not necessarily longer, which gives me a consistent vape because it works even if the enemy backs off, unlike the NA :
Arle E > Yelan QN1 (+E if I want) > Kaz Q > Benny EQ > Kaz E > Arle...
Suscribed for the ICD tip, that was galaxybrained omw to try this immediately
can i ask the rotation with benny, c2 kazuha and c6 yelan instead? i want to utilize kazuha's increased em and yelan's extra skill. thanks!
My Kazuha video has a good setup you can use for characters like Yelan: you can always Swirl Pyro AND Hydro with 1 Hold Skill if done on an enemy with a Hydro aura and inside Bennett Burst. The thing is, with C6 Yelan you want to on-field her a while so it will make the Pyro swirl expire, you are also just killing whatever is there so it probably doesn't matter. Swirl Hydro → Yelan C6 → new wave → Swirl Pyro → Arlecchino, you should still be able to at least Vaporize her initial hits.
Also check docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aarinYvPO-G9ivwk27UnYSkKfj-YAUrnlRShFcWQf60/edit?gid=205864093#gid=205864093 but I don't think it has C6 Yelan case.
@@SevenPls Ahh, I see! I just watched your kazuha tips video and I think i understand the rotation now. Thanks for the tips, have a great day
@@jvolyne TY You too!
now what happens if you have c6 Bennett ? Will the rotation still work or will u have move away for the enemy to do the 3NA combo before consuming the BoL?
C6 Bennett doesn't matter for that combo, I actually do have it in the video
oh wow, ty for the response . I appreciate it very much 🙂
@@LofftyAnimations Any time!
I almost have c6 Barabara. I was wondering if that would effect her. Thx
OMG, I've been doing this 3 hit before CA without knowing that this would make me Vape both my N2 and N3. The only thing in my mind doing N3's first is because I want to put Hydro App on enemies before claiming bond of life to have massive nuke on my N1 only and not to waste BoL by attacking a Pyro applied enemy. I didn't realize that this is a hidden tech lmao 😂❤
the 3 Normal attack doesn't always work... Since her Mark applies Pyro every 3 seconds and while she's normal attacking ( with Hydro from yelan ) in can ruin and vaporize before the charged attack. Any Solution to this ?
Her Mark has a weird ICD that doesn't actually apply Pyro unless you are waiting a lot. Also once you CA you clear it, that shouldn't be the issue. What are you doing exactly?
So is Kazuha burst worth using? I got his C2 but I feel like it would go up the vapes and take extra field time tho.
In a correct rotation yes absolutely, you'd give Arle even more Pyro DMG and 200 EM. It must be Hydro infused tho
@@SevenPls but how do it get double swirl and a hydro infusion. Feels impossible with Bennett yelan.
@@ShuchengCao I made a quick video to show you a setup you can do with yelan kazu c2: ruclips.net/video/erQIeUMugpY/видео.html
Basically you want to use Bennett after Kazuha's first Swirl so that you can cancel the Hydro and apply Pyro. It only works in single target. In AoE it's impossible to remove Hydro aura if Kazu Burst is there so you have to Swirl Pyro earlier, but it's fine for quick enemies.
@@SevenPls 🤯wow
Isnt it better to do N2 CA N5 . This way you'll get n2, n3 and n5 to vape.
And a question about yelan. Does her burst hit before or after arlechino normal atks??
Yes but N2CA would only trigger 1 instance of Yelan/Xingqiu and that might not be enough to keep the Hydro aura.
Yelan attacks start immediately when starting a Normal hit but generally they take more time to hit than the attack itself.
@@SevenPls I see. Thanks
Great video. I know the burst isn’t that practical at low constellations, but what about c6? The multiplier is insanely high, but it’s still tough to justify it sometimes
You can dash cancel her charged attack while still getting her bond of life
Another great video 👻
I like your words, funny youtube man.
I like your comment, just some guy.
In your Excel, why does not N4-1 (2nd-hit) vape if N2 vapes (std ICD 1 4 7 ...)
I saw it vapes in 3:22
I know this is in terms of c0, but doesn’t c2 and c6 make bursting more of a damage gain? Since at that point you can do your rotation, go to Arlecchino at the end, skill, burst, skill again, and then use ca and normals?
Wait but how do you get the BoL before using charged attack? Is it a 2nd rotation kind of thing
Yes but the tech works also on first rotation or without Bennett c6
@@SevenPls Ohh that's good too
Hello, I just want to ask if I'm using Thoma in the Kazuha slot instead of the usual Yelan, Bennett, Kazuha, how is he detrimental to her vapes, does he steal the important vape hits? Or is his application negligible that it doesn't affect the application and her vapes?
Firey Collapse from his burst Steals Vapes yes
@@starbandit1851 so zhongli is the way so that this doesn't happen if you want a defensive option?
@@harougemu Zhongli Diona Layla. You can use Thoma on Overload teams with Chevreuse though
Wait why does it vape the next two normal attacks after the charge attack? Wouldn't it only vape the first normal attack and then the second one would be ICD?
The "number of hits" rule does not cancel the "time" rule. It's been 3 hits when her first Normal hits, so it Vaporizes. And it's been 2.5s once the N2 happens, so it Vaporizes as well.
The same, for example, happens with Yoimiya. She is always able to Vaporize her N5 and her N1 right after. Because at N5 it's been 3 hits (she has multi-hits) and it Vaporizes. When it restarts it's been 2.5s so it starts again, but this time both rules are reset.
Feel free to ask anything if you have some doubt! I didn't want to include this in the video otherwise it would become very confusing lol
@@SevenPls Oh I see! Thank you so much!
Hello, i would like to ask if the tech about the ICD can be used with overload teams?
You don't need to care about ICD in raw pyro damages comps
It's not necessary! Chevreuse teams are more about the buffs and raw damage than overload damage itself
alright, thank you ! It's good knowing that I don't have to worry about that !
How do you active the scarlet spear buff using arlecchino?
The first passive is always active. The second part (the stacks) can be gained by hitting enemies with your Skill (2 stacks per cast + 1 more stack after 5s). Note that you will get stacks only if you are on-field but you can basically play "normally" and it will work.
Really great video, can you make one about Alhaitham?(pretty pleeeeeeeease)
Probably doing one on his rerun
TRIPLE VAPE TECH? Ok now I'm curious.
My Problem is that I keep missing her first 3 big Vapes :( :( .. Do I need to do exactly 3 normal attacks or I can like do 4-5 before the charged attack? I'm losing like on 150k damage every rotation because of this
3 normals into CA will make sure that N1 Vaporizes for sure. Then either N2 or N3 based on your exact timing, both are fine though.
in many cases i have seen, people usually put yelan instead of xingqiu
Wont xingqiu be better because of his damage reduction E?
Yes he can be better for that. Yelan is more damage because of her Ascension Talent that would buff Arlecchino quite a bit but Xingqiu does offer damage reduction and also resistance to interruption.
I use full pyro team like arliccheno Bennet kazuha and thoma c4 should I use white tassels or not ?
White Tassel has no problem in that team but if you have a very offensive (non-EM) weapon you could go for it. You can refer to my other video on Arlecchino for some % number on which one is better.
Tell me sir, i m using staff of scarlet sands and guilded dreams set. So how much em do I need to use the full potential of the staff of scarlet sands. Or should I go atk sands instead
Btw in my current build 311 em (with em sands) and 1600k atk
It could be ok with Bennett in the team. I wouldn't seek more EM but an ATK Sands might still be better.
It's kind of a question for a calculator that has your artifacts and buffs. For me, for example, ATK Sands is better even when playing Scarlet Sands (and I have both a good ATK and EM piece).