Psychosis Is an Expression of Early Childhood Trauma
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
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I'm sorry to say that Dr. Ann Silver, who I mention in this video, passed away in September of 2021.
She does, however, appear in my film, Take These Broken Wings: • Take These Broken Wing...
Also, five links (compliments of www.psychrights...) providing evidence that non-medication treatments and humane treatments for psychosis work better than conventional psychiatric treatment:
1: bit.ly/2AXkPoL Five-year experience of first-episode nonaffective psychosis in open-dialogue approach: Treatment principles, follow-up outcomes, and two case studies, by Jaakko Seikkula, Jukka Aaltonen, Birgittu Alakare, Kauko Haarakangas, Jyrki Kera¨Nen, & Klaus Lehtinen, Psychotherapy Research, March 2006; 16(2): 214/228. This study of the Open Dialogue approach in Finland that used as little neuroleptics as possible found that in a group of 42 patients, 82% did not have psychotic symptoms at the end of five years, 86% had returned to their studies or jobs, and only 14% were on disability allowance. Only 29% had ever been exposed to a neuroleptic medication at all during the five years, and only 17% were on neuroleptics at the end of five years.
2: bit.ly/2MvgRJp Factors Involved in Outcome and Recovery in Schizophrenia Patients Not on Antipsychotic Medications: A 15-Year Multifollow-Up Study, A longitudinal study of 145 patients found a 40% recovery rate for those who did not take antipsychotics, versus a 5% rate for those who did, Journal of Nervous and Mental Disease, Vol 195, May, 2007, No. 5: 407-414
3. bit.ly/2MvgRJp Soteria and Other Alternatives to Acute Psychiatric Hospitalization A Personal and Professional Review, by Loren R. Mosher, M.D., The Journal of Nervous and Mental Disease, 187:142-149, 1999.
4. bit.ly/3232r9I. The Soteria-concept. Theoretical bases and practical 13-year experience with a milieu-therapeutic approach of acute schizophrenia, Special lecture given at the 93 Annual Meeting of the Japanese Society of Psychiatry and Neurology, Tokyo, May 29th-31th, 1997, published in Psychiatria et Neurologia Japonica 99: 634-650, 1997.
5. bit.ly/2IBuoxE The Michigan State Psychotherapy Project study compared standard medication treatment for those diagnosed with severe schizophrenia with quality controlled psychotherapy both alone and with medication as an adjunct. The study demonstrated extremely more favorable long-term outcomes (at lower cost) for those receiving psychotherapy alone from psychotherapists with relevant training and experience.
Imagine if we assumed that all mental health problems are sane reactions to insane environments.
Sbeast preach!
They are.
Gian Mercado can you explain what you mean?
Look at how many supposedly well-adjusted are reacting to this temporary period of hardship in their life. We don't have to assume anymore, if I'm supposed to be mentally ill, what the hell do you call what's going on now.
this is an assumption that is a reality for many
My brother is experiencing pschosis right now and I have little kids myself. And I was noticing that my brothers "word salad" sounds a lot like when my toddler is rambling and his fears reminded me a lot when my toddler is experiences fears. My brother experience a great loss when he was little, a death of a sibliing which happened before I was alive. I feel like this might have been shrug off when growing up. Little kids are much more aware then we give them credit for.
Thank you for sharing your experience! That is really interesting.
I had red transformer as toddler and lost it in long grass and was unable to find it. Xxx years forward, im seeing transformers as big as building ruining streets am walking on, deep in pcychotic episode.
This video explains it
...and much more sensitive and perceptive.😉
Truly umm lol
I’m so sad reading this….my brother is suffering too…..our step father committed suicide in our home he was 6. Thé well intentioned neighbor told him he was going to have to be the man of the house…..I remember his face, he didn’t understand but he took it seriously …he never had a childhood…he was always working yes at 10 mowing lawns….😢😢😢😢
Many therapists cannot be present with your pain because they are not present with their own pain. The mental health system is just a continuation of the abuse. Though there are a few good souls out there practicing healing and therapy but they often have full practices.
in a way they are tought to not be present with your pain. they call it "professional distance". but tbh. it makes it impossible to help clients take their feelings seriously.
@@Holzider Most people are in therapy because they don’t feel like the people around them, aren’t seen for who they are, and are always being told to change to make themselves “better.” It’s a bloody feedback loop, but you wouldn’t notice for the air of legitimacy and the empty words twisted around just enough not to be seen for the platitudinous cliches that they are. Forgive me, if you would, for my anger, there is a lot of it, and for Hale-Bopps sake it is justified. 1 John 5:19
Idk, therapy has helped me and many of my friends. It’s a good way to get an outsiders look on situations and have actual great advise instead of friends who just want to tell you what you want to hear
@@brenner5147 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
All of this!!!
Parents who are traumatized and haven't dealt with their own trauma, will project, deny, blame and do everything to avoid taking responsibility for their own children's emotional development. Imagine a world where grown ups supported children, instead of pathologizing every behavior they don't approve of.
This is absolutely true. My dad has undiagnosed npd and is my legal guardian. I live in a group home where the staff socialize on the phone and call out orders about mundane meaningless things passing out medications 2 or 3 times a day. The clients. Often say nothing of much substance and spend most of their days lying in bed. Last semptember i had a medication for depression added to my pill tray. They call all this treatment. I think its a.cruel joke.
That is so well said!
I believe that's the Earth we all hope for in our heart of hearts. At least, that's what it looks like in my heart.
Yep, they traumatize you into having psychotic behavioral symptoms. I started having verbal outbursts to cope with the abuse, and my mom just had it labelled Tourettes. I was the Tourettes boy, never actually had Tourettes. These parents just inject their children with their unresolved shadow, and then act as though it originated in the child.
part of the reason psychosis happens in early adulthood is because the person is taking on adult responsibilities for the first time. it makes the mental illness more apparent.
Separation stress
Is that about those abnormal parents that have been attacked by some and or in other ways?
Also the I’m interested in using a victims oppression and attacks focuses and to some interests of their minds non of another’s to them command and add for not good things needs to be not against the victim or it needs to be placed back itd only target someone else and if someone notices it or apart of it look for the offer to the victims so when they’re unwell or not okay they can gain clarity
So true. And I saw many people who were diagnosed after they graduated college. So they lost their social support system which can also trigger stress and psychosis.
spot in 💯%
Childhood history is the most relevant component for healing of any degree.
It's so cliche, but it's also so true. It's so true. Nothing feels more truer to healing our shit than this.
Absolutely. I am an example of that. Twice hospitalized for suicide ideation.
It’s amazing that any of us survive from all trauma in childhood seen and unseen.
the development of the intelligence is more existentially important then the material physical life
@@mikelisteral7863 ...And the emotional integration of split-off/repressed emotional needs, hurts and feelings is more important than saying people need to focus on the development of their intelligence, as that will naturally occur anyhow once they have regained their real selves, as they were meant to be...Peace...
I was in psychosis for about 8 months before I had repressed memories of early childhood abuse resurface. Once I figured out what was going on and started inner child healing, I was able to stop dissociating and unpack what was happening. I have since learned a lot about myself, and about the type of relationships I do/don't want in my life.
This is profound and not to be overlooked. Thank you for sharing. Blessings. ✨
Thank you, Daniel. Many parents leave their kids at daycare and with babysitters most of their childhood. It's weird how this is so normalized in society.
Conservatives have a point when they talk about the destruction of the family unit. It's all in service to capitalism, corporations and "the free market". Outsource parenting to daycare. Outsource human connection to therapists. Outsource human emotion to drug companies.
@@the81kid This is also one reason why as a woman I DO NOT subscribe to feminism,and the feminist movement. I'm only 26,but I believe the mother should be at home raising the kids. It creates a stable environment for children. I don't believe in misogyny,but I do believe women and men aren't created equal for a reason. They're things a woman can do that a man can't and vice versa. I'm a firm believer in traditional roles.
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Won't get any argument from me there. Modern gender feminism, and leftism in general, has become a toxic mess. I unfortunately had to read Michel Foucault in university, who is the new left's hero, if not god. Reading about that man, his life, his proclivities (and I'm not talking about the fact that he was gay), his morals and politics explains a lot about the new (well, not so new) left. For many on the left now, it's all about power and narcissism. The left have joined the neoliberals and have no problem being anti-science and anti-human. All to aid corporations. Traumatised people with a fragile sense of self, who need constant validation from social media, which never satisfies and always leaves them angry: it's the perfect consumer generation for corporations.
Problem is, "the family unit" is no older than industrialisation. Before industrialisation, family units were usually larger, and parenting could be "outsourced" to relatives and older siblings. This is a much more natural way of raising kids. Remember the good old "it takes a village to raise a child"?
No human being can be perfectly connected to and responsible for a child 24/7. Mothers also have to meet their own needs. For example: after several sleepless nights, empathy tends to decrease. So the idea of a closed family unit with one woman constantly responsible for raising children is basically a recipe for trauma/neglect.
I do agree though, that leaving your child with adults you don't know is very naive and honestly quite weird. Most other mammals would fight anyone they don't trust to death if they approach their children.
@@xephini
"Before industrialisation, family units were usually larger, and parenting could be "outsourced" to relatives and older siblings."
Parenting was not outsourced. Parenting was provided by the extended family and community which had connection to the child and the rest of the child's family and community. Not provided by a teenager or adult who has no connection to the child, can enter and leave the child's life, forever, without warning. The two are absolutely not comparable.
"So the idea of a closed family unit with one woman constantly responsible for raising children is basically a recipe for trauma/neglect."
That's a simplification. Trauma/neglect can come from anywhere and anyone. I happen to know many single mothers who are amazing parents, and others who are the opposite. It is not a recipe for anything. The child would get more trauma if the parents stayed together when they shouldn't. That is a recipe for trauma. As terrible for the child divorce is, staying together is even worse for the child. I have seen a lot of examples of this. It's not as simple as saying (like at least one trending conservative RUclips talking head likes to say): divorce should be stopped. The important thing is for the child to have some human connection as he/she develops. More human connection is better, but staying more time with his/her mother seems better than spending little time with the mother and lots of time with the nanny or daycare worker etc.. Hopefully those people care about children, but they cannot replace a parent's connection, and many people who work with children do it out of financial obligation. The child is a product to them. This is dehumanizing the child. But it is a lot more common than you might think. If that is the main human contact by a child, that is a recipe for trauma.
You're right that the family unit is artificial. But the "family unit" is what little remains of the extended family and community a child once had to grow up with. It's not enough, and may not even be natural, but we are now in the final stages of removing even this last vestigial organ of natural child development. The "free market" and the "Social Justice" (capital letters, not lower case letters) are working hand in hand to destroy the last remnant of love, human connection and nurturing that children have. (I've lost the quote, but this has been openly stated in certain gender studies literature. I'm searching for the citation.)
I was forced into a psych ward while in a psychosis at 19, and I had THE worst experience there, the psychiatrist had no sense of empathy, he was cold, like my father, the trauma i was going thru felt like it was following me
Probably a narcissist, many in this field are. Somatic therapy is the way forward. Peter Levine's work is great.
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The psych wards are the most inhuman “prison” for someone in trauma. We need to shut them down, because they are big money making businesses that are not a healthy place for most. We need “real” retreat facilities for healing and rest. We honestly haven’t progressed much since brain shocks and torturing they use to do.
Me, too. I went through the same thing
It (the trauma) was following you; fallen angels hunt us to the death. God is their Creator and He creates evil in order to give us the best opportunities to fellowship with Jesus Christ in suffering; in His death by crucifixion to save mankind.
It makes sense that psychosis and schizophrenia is like a scream from within to get in touch with one’s individual reality
the mind can become so lost that the brain becomes damaged
I'm an incest child sex abuse survivor who had a manic break at 26 from dealing with the repressed memories and I can't thank you enough. I resonate with everything you said.
I’ve had multiple psychotic breaks a few years ago. Been working hard to heal trauma since and get my life together.
During the psychotic break many “repressed memories”, of sexual abuse came up. But I don’t even know if it’s true or I just don’t want to believe it.
Made perfect sense at the time. But whole psychosis made me feel so much shame afterwards, that I don’t think it’s real. Idk.
@barkpeeler2000hey there. I’m sorry for that experience. Can I ask how your repressed memories surfaced ?
you’re not alone. i was raped at 5 or 6 by a 9 year old and only realised it was rape and sexual abuse at age 16. i haven’t told anyone about it still. it’s such a horrible disgusting feeling that i wish i could remove
@barkpeeler2000 That sounds like classic gaslighting to me. If the person/people who told you that what you were remembering is "false, delusional (a favorite word used by manipulators), hallucinatory, or simply not true," yet YOU feel, believe and know it to be true for yourself... Listen to yourself. Don't listen to them. They're either in denial, ignorant and unwilling to see the truth, or involved. I just don't see any other alternatives to telling someone their memories are "delusional and hallucinatory." Those words also carry a lot of judgmental "mental health" weight with them. I don't like that. A huge injustice; you're probably right on the money with that one.
I cried a little from reading your message. I'm so so sorry to hear what you went through. Please know you matter, you are enough, and you are lovable.
Absolutely. Dogs being put in apartments, even houses should be a criminal act. And how people treat their animals is a litmus test for how they will treat their children. And Daniel is so right about PTSD and about parents not relating. I know someone who has three adult children, all with major problems, one a severe addict. Blames the children of course.
So many people should not have children, or animals. People have way too much awakening and healing of their own to do. They are not safe.
> And how people treat their animals is a litmus test for how they will treat their children.
Are you vegan?
@@rabbitcreativehis actually has been proven to be surprisingly true through many social and behavioral science as well as psychological studies. People who display acts and behaviors of abuse and violence against animals, on average, often also are the people who display aggression, abuse and violence toward other people, one of the most notable studies, from North Eastern University found animal abusers were five times more likely to be violent toward humans than the average population. It should be noted of course; this applies to violence against animals that are pets, livestock, or other such types, specifically in the form of abuse, and does not pertain to violence in the form of hunting animals.
@@lunarlightasmr4660 you say 'livestock'. are you telling me you believe killing an animal for food, when you dont need to, isnt abuse?
@@rabbitcreative so nowhere in my statement did I make that claim, I made the claim that researches found those who abuse animals often considered pets (dogs, cats, etc) or livestock (cattle, horses, goats, etc) were found to be five times more likely to also be violent toward humans. I said nothing of whether I believed killing an animal for food when you didn’t need to was abuse or not abuse.
This is what narcissistic parents do, emotionally abandon their children.
codependency is based on separation from the real god
@@mikelisteral7863based
And the shittiest part is when they’re waiting to receive your empathy when they’re down. It’s bullshit.
I feel like I'm in this stage of my life right now. I had a psychotic break a few years ago, and have been fluctuating between a depressive and a mania-like state ever since. I've lost my 3 year relationship, my home, my job and my identity. I'm aware of at least some of the trauma from my childhood and teenage years, and I'm trying my best to bring it forward in doses I can deal with, in order to process it organically - but I feel stuck. Your videos really help me feel justified and understood through this. I hope I can find someone who can help me process my traumas, and maybe even help me remember things I repressed.
Thanks, Daniel.
Uff, tough. Yeah, I don't think your childhood and teenage trauma won't be of much help. The root of psychosis is in the first year of life, maybe the first two at most. You can't get at that, we didn't have half our brains back then. Still, analysis can treat your condition. but it takes many years.
julian jones im sure you will heal!
I think Daniel early videos about self therapy could be helpful with that. Journaling, analyzing dreams, healthy lifestyle, support of a group or a therapist. He has also alot of articles about self therapy on his site. Good luck.
The top things that have helped me with trauma is 1. A compassionate philosophy (Sufism in my case). 2. Loving Relationships With People Who Have Had Similar Trauma. 3. Nature Walks/Loving Kindness Meditation/Yoga/Muay Thai/Qi Gong/Deep Breathing. 4. A book called the Crying Cure: Literally crying everyday from tears of joy/or sadness to reconnect to the emotional self. 5. Journaling. 6. Helping Others. 7. Empowering Others. 8. This Jungian Life Podcast. 9. Proper Diet. 10. Sleep. 11. Time with a family of choice. 12. A Daily Practice That Integrates All of This Things.....Basically owning my own emotional regulation, cultivating my inner father and mother which should have been internalized in childhood and lastly striving to live in a family/tribe/community of people who have a similar spirit as me
Bonus is Ayahuasca
Exactly what i thought was happening to a family member of mine who started having psychosis around 16/17 years of age. It was so clear that they were exploding with unresolved emotions of trauma from childhood, extremely fearful and paranoid as they were teying to piece together the hell of fear whi h broke loose at that age. Sexual abuse, divorce and alcoholism was present in their early childhood and the doctors never bothered to listen as i tried to help this family member recieve help. I was only 18 at the time but the reality of a broken mind was crystal clear to me as a teenager. Unresolved trauma stored with extreme fear exploding in the so called schizophrenic diagnosis they got some 10 years later. Our society needs much more awarness and compassion.
Compassion! That’s what society needs
I learned about psychosis as a process of confronting seemingly incompatible truths in relation to one’s present view of reality, compounded with no one or no way to organize it, for example, in conversation with an open and clarifying other. Perhaps due to shame, overwhelm, secrecy or politics there is something that directs the situation to have to be resolved alone. Psychosis occurs when the person, in their overwhelm, reverts inwards and psychosis is the system splitting and reorganizing itself.
For example… the mass has just been through a collective psychosis, exhibiting some seemingly bizarre ungrounded behaviours that helped give a sense of reality whilst going mad and not being able to openly discuss the array of (lies) incompatible truths controlling the mainstream narrative. Many people had no choice but to retreat within themselves, loosing friends, social media channels, etc … each rejecting open discourse in the name of science (politics). Most of those who played nice did so under coercion and many people suffered some level of splitting as a result.
That’s a perfect recent example of how the status quo is in effect maintained through collective trauma. I’ll save that for another comment shpeel
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BOOM! Nailed it
So many therapists don’t want to work with people.
Right. I would do all this journaling work for example, so a therapist could help me help me, and I'd get "oh you're so smart, you're so insightful." Dude if I was here for an ego boost I could go somewhere else, I need THERAPY. This isn't it. I hate it. They just want you to keep giving them $$ and treat you like you're "mentally ill."
Yesssssssss 😑
V or be invested in real presence and solutions it’s to difficult
There are many stupid therapist unfortunately even if they studied psychology for 6 years. All what they study helps no one
So many therapists are toxic. I've never found a well balanced one yet, except Daniel.
Daniel. You are a pioneer in this field. Maybe not very popular now, but your insights and truthtelling would be remembered in history.
Wonderful. As a former professional Psychiatric Patients' Rights' Advocate (state-mandated, California), I say that it's about time that someone is telling these truths so clearly and humanely. Thank you.
Awesome career
I think narcissistic parents know what the trauma was....but narcissists are never going to take the blame for anything much less apologize for it ...and speaking of pets...what adults do to animals that little children love can be traumatic all by itself....and children don't always tell what happened to them to their parents esp
Narcissistic parents actually live in a false reality where they see the child as existing for their identity needs. They think that the child is what they need or imagine him to be. It is this lack of insight and need to be false that is the definitive damaging element. Trying to find logic, patterns or reasons in the behavior of such parents is almost always time wasted.
children carry the guilt and continue to think they are the problem
"What you're going through is rational - it may look irrational, but on a grander scheme of things, it's rational"... Daniel, despite following your channel for quite some time now, those simple words were just such a cool thing to hear. I know that line wasn't even directed at me specifically but.. I've never had anyone in my life actually see my feelings and honor them using that combination of words. That's the amazing thing about the English language - it actually has the tools to convey such abstract concepts
Anyway, it was such a cool feeling to hear those words, to know that someone has the intellectual capacity to verbally mirror whats going on in my head. What a special feeling.
😀😀😀 thanks Pat
I’ve only had one good therapist. He was gentle, humble and so kind. All the others abused their authority in one way or another, either through coldness and cruel comments, or sexual suggestiveness.
But the good guy I mentioned, he is a treasure. It’s good to know I can go talk once in a while. Maybe it’s his low key friendly, open style. He allowed me to feel like an equal human being while I shared my traumas and he validated my pain at every point. It was so humbling, I just cried at his kindness. I don’t know; but I’m so happy for his wife and two sons. I’ve tried about six therapists in 54 years and he’s the only one I ever went back to after the first sessions, because he was the only one that didn’t traumatize me.
I need a good therapist working with patients with childhood traumas. Can you please provide his contact? 🙏🙏
ABSOLUTELY CORRECT... I held in my anger through childhood only to sabotage any REAL connection to others. It was ONLY WHEN I WAS ALLOWED TO FEEL THESE FEELINGS did I recover. I became a better friend and partner who can now sustain connection to those I love. It's so worth it.
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Growing up in a dysfunctional environment will do that. I was labeled the depressed angry child who wasn't allowed to show emotions except for happiness which I faked to please everyone. Everyone else could be angry or upset but if I did it was treated as a crime for ruining the family's "perfect image". It really fucked up my relationships because years of being forced to bottle up everything caused an overflow of rage and unresolved trauma. When parents silence a child, it comes back full force in adulthood.
I've been watching your videos for a few months now. This one has me in tears. This exactly describes my life growing up. My split happened pretty early - 17/18. Once that happens, NOBODY wants to help you or listen. It's maddening. I'm 35 now & it took me this long to make the connection all the way back. It's hard to let the memories come back.
Thank you for being a voice for us. I barely have words for how it feels to have this part of myself be understood
I’m currently experiencing the connecting dots
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The dog in the small apartment was me being sent to my room for getting upset at how my family was treating me and crying myself to sleep.
Thank you so much for this. While I was in the hospital during my psychotic break, I really felt I was a child. I was in the emergency room playing with the monitoring equipment, and the male nurse got fed up with me and brutally held me down. It was awful because I really felt I was that child, but everyone saw me as an adult
I'm really sorry, and angry, you were treated thus.
I recall a study a few years back that indicated that nurses have low levels of empathy and high drive to power & control at similar levels to cops v. the general populace.Which makes sense, to me.
I think its called age regression.I was put in isolation in hosipital and I was playing alone like a child.I think i regressed to an age of approx 9 years.
I can't stand the way the majority of people treat their dogs :(
i agree , the ones who expect their dog to understand english get me.
@@NOT_SURE.. Yep, it's like they heard dogs have the equivalent intelligence of a 3 year old human and decided that treating dogs like human children is the correct approach. If you see any creature in your care through the wrong lense then abuse is inevitable.
@@elbrad02 or the 'foreigner' approach , the more you shout the more likely they are to understand you ...it is right though , if you reward the good behaviour and ignore the bad more kids would turn out ok (ish)
most people don't have the explanatory knowledge to understand dogs or to know how to relate with them or how to teach them things
People treat animals like objects to be used, and it's barbaric.
I worked till very recently in a daycare with infants and young toddlers. They were distraught and distressed for hours after the parent dropped them off. It was heartbreaking to see on day to day basis. And I did care about them and gave them as much nurturing as I can but you are in a small room with 8,9 babies that would cry on any given time of the day and you just can’t always stop everything and go hold them because you’re not able to stretch yourself to that many crying and needy babies. At times we would have as many as 4,5 babies crying at once and it was exhausting, overwhelming and unbearable. We had to do basics of care like feedings,, diaper changes, naps..! And it’s the same dynamic with elderly people who are in nursing homes., they are charged thousands of dollars for the bare minimum of care. But my colleagues and I didn’t pocket the money it’s the owners and the CEOs. We work for a a minimum wage after taxes. Our entire system is broken in every way possible..!
I can relate. I had a bipolar manic episode 7 years ago and there was one point where I felt I was a child again. On the outside, I must have looked totally NUTS, but inside it was like I was 100% impulsive but there was a lucid observer seeing it happen too. I saw that acting as a child, my family stepped into their proper roles that maybe they hadn't before. For example, my mother stepped in and was talking to me as if I were a little child and cut up my food for me. My brother gave a stern tough-love kind of reproach when I took off all my clothes in the ER. Growing up, I had been the mother of the home. I was my mother's caretaker and super protective over my brother as if I were his parent. It was as if my psyche was trying to restore order in our roles (I'm the baby of the family). So cool and I admit weird. I would like to write about my episode sometime from the lucid observer perspective because in some ways it was rational, despite it looking irrational... just as you say.
I was put on a ridiculous cocktail while hospitalized that made my mania worse. Was transferred to a different facility that put me on an anti-psychotic that calmed me down within days. I'd never had any problems with psychosis or mania before that episode. I think it was from pushing it all down and self-medicating with alcohol, drugs, relationships, sex... Anyway, thanks for sharing this perspective because I've never heard anyone talk about psychosis like this. It totally resonates with me and totally explains what happened to me in the hospital back then. Update: 1 year post medication and thriving :)
Former Things that is awesome, very happy that you have healed and off medication!
Thank you so much for sharing and giving hope!
I had a psychotic break last year at 37 after a huge argument with my mother. My delusions mostly centered around her. Pretty sure she is the narcissistic mother who has preyed on me my whole life. In 2021 I was sick with covid for 6 months and she was nasty to me as usual and angry at me for being sick. I was terrified it was going to be permanent. I was bed-bound. She took it as an opportunity to rip me apart instead of showing me love and compassion. She screamed at me that it was anxiety. She has traumatized me so badly. The trauma hit its peak at that time. When I got out of the psych hospital when I had psychosis She didn’t show me any love. she was grilling me about getting my mail and doing my taxes and some other shit. I have dissociated 3 times now in her presence. Never happens with anyone else. I’m sad for her that she is such a miserable nasty person. She has admitted that she caused me trauma but she can’t stop. I don’t even know if she realizes when she does it. I started ketamine the other day trying to undue the trauma but I think I have to go no contact in order to heal. If she gets me in a rage again I’m pretty sure I’ll have another break.
Sadly, you have to. I wish you good luck... You don't deserve any of it. Let her earn you back. Build your boundaries. That's what I'm wanting to do for myself. ❤
I hope it gets better for you Erin 🙏
it's perfectly fine to stay away from her save you pick yourself 😢 that's what I do with my narc mom love her from a distance
Don't stop Daniel. This world of pain needs you. Let's please honor what people are going through. There is a pathway to love and healing through understanding. I promise you that.
i cant afford therapy
your videos really help
thanks for your work
thanks for giving
surrender to god, through the fear of death, will heal you
die before you die so you can truly live
@@mikelisteral7863 Hi, i'm a Christian, but i don't agree with telling people they need God when they're vulnerable and going through psychosis, or suffering other mental health issues...They need proper help to get well first (NOT tablets) and if they then decide or otherwise that they wanna look more into God, that's a matter for them, not somebody else telling them...Peace...
I have been through 3 psychotic breaks. 1st I was on alot of street drugs. 2nd I was on an anti depressant. 3rd I was on an anti depressant. Definatly alot of trauma comes up and Injustice became the main theme. I had been abused both sexually and physically and in my 3rd psychosis I went to the police and managed to get a pay out from the abusers institution in a long process. I have gone through restraints, injections, over 10 medications, therapists who only care about money. Alot of my psychosis was about not being able to trust people. Now I see my psychosis as very fukn rational. When I was in a psychotic state roles deminished, there is a sense of heightened awareness about how people had been treating me. Like an object most of my life. How I had acted and became somthing so disacociated from myself to please others and survive. I think psychosis is an experience to be incorporated. Although you have to be careful who you tell. So who you trust with therapy. You are very delecate already in the mind. If the therapist has a lack of self awareness you will feel unsafe and undermined.
Yep. It's something you have to go through alone. I'm finally realizing and accepting that I've always been alone, there's not outside help and if I'm going to survive this life I'm going to have to accept that. Any help I sought just turns into more trauma.
@@dbptwg Thank you😁♥️ I'm really grateful for your reply, it came at a good time. I'm so glad you are feeling steady alone! That you feel you have a responsibility to fulfill the social contract is so beautiful, and rare. We do have this, and maybe we can be a light to others when we get to that next plateau! 😁♥️🙏 Much love!!!
Dogs and toddlers are emotionally similar, you are so right
My childhood was mixed. Mom and dad were both gone alot. I had abandonment issues early on, didn't want to be separated from mom and was left with babysitters and whatnot. I was shown a lot of love but mom and dad were arguing half the time, and i argued with them, slammed doors, yelled and everything. Things just seemed to be in disarray. On top of that i was sexually abused at 8 (not by a family member)
20 years later all these memories started coming back to me. I became obsessive, paranoid, irritable and depressed. Whenever i try to talk to my parents about these memories they pretty much tell me "I don't remember that happening, and if i don't remember it then it didn't happen, even if it did happen you're not remembering it right, and even if you're remembering it right it's was never a big deal to begin with." My mom didn't even shed a tear when i told her i was abused. Idek wtf is wrong with me. Idk who I am anymore
I recently came upon a suggestion for a book called Running on Empty and it was about the topic of childhood emotional neglect.
It literally blew my mind wide open to recognizing what was still wrong with me. I’ve dealt with all the physical trauma and whatnot, forgiven abuse and everything but still am not healed. I just couldn’t figure out what was I supposed to do? Why am I still frozen?
I almost feel like CEN explains all the problems in the world. It just seems like almost no one really understands what emotions are for and how we’re supposed to use them.
OMG. There's so much sadness in human lives, and in those animals whose lives we touch.
This is absolutely true!! I was severely abused and neglected by my parents. When I gave birth to my son, I experience psychosis. It was the best thing as I end up working through trauma and became the best mother.
do as i say not as i do....
Oh can you please tell me more? I think my mom also developed phychosis after my birth. Im not sure If my birth was the reason but it started when I was small. Why does birth make people psychotic?
The dog in the apartment..... makes me think of the kids in daycare who are there sometimes since maybe two months of age. And the horrors that happen in daycare. Sometimes when these kids are overwhelmed with excitement to see their parents, their parents mock or reject them for it (sometimes "because I had a stressful day and I need to unwind", sometimes because oh you are such a big baby").
some people should t be allowed to have pets or kids
I wonder how many psychiatrists are themselves carrying on the "tradition" of both parents going off to work and not wanting to really consider the child's state of mind and emotional needs.
What a kind thing you are doing with these videos. Just having someone else recognize the wounded deeper self provides relief and perspective.
Thank you David.
I once heard Michael Tsarion say something to the effect of...
...insanity is a perfectly natural adjustment to an insane environment.
Dr Gabor Maté too
Ty so much for validating my experience ❤ I was traumatized as a child by two narcissistic parents. Then was traumatized again by fraternity hazing. That is where the depths of my psychosis began. Parents are still in complete denial and full on raging narcissists. Ur work has helped me immensely ❤❤❤
You are a dear and rare soul, Daniel.❤🌹💜
As some one who went through a psychosis episode this guy hits the nail right on the head. I finally feel understood and validated.
When I watch these essays, I feel Daniel Mackler has found me, not the other way around. In a way I feel better understood than I ever could have myself. That is what's shocking to me: this should not be possible. I should know myself better than I do, but I don't.
I feel like these poor NYC dogs
Just accept it and try to integrate your "higher" self into your life. What you describe brings Consciousness into your life. No need to question it, embrace it and discover where it's leading you.
This is me right now. It's so tricky and difficult. I recently found out I am autistic.
Whenever I had meltdowns, I was invalidated and threatened to get disowned. I'm a shell of myself, trying to get out of this victim mentality. I live vicariously through others. I want to get out of the environment that is causing me pain; I need to do paid work, but I'm struggling to build rapport with employers.
Nobody wants to actually help...
Stay strong
@JustinRedFlame yes this is the best judgement call. Evolve strong survival
I just want to say that I understand and I love you. It's gonna be fun when you get to be yourself, you can do it.
The loneliness and feelings of defeat/helplessness is real… I understand and I am so sorry. It really can and does feel that way a lot of the time. I hope things get better for you bit by bit… ❤️🩹
Aww man, thank you for the love everyone. I appreciate the words of encouragement!
NO ONE wants to acknowledge this. At least no one that I know of and it makes me so angry because humans can be so oblivious and not even care
Thank God, SOMEONE understands this and the “healthy attachment” (or unhealthy) in childhood. When they “hauled me in”, i tried to explain this to my Psychiatrist and he refused to consider it. It’s probably NOT in the DSM…. I think Gabor Mate might relate, though.. BTW, i am now recovering, WELL, from C-PTSD, which means for 30+ years, i was traumatized by everyone i trusted, family, and a psychiatrist even gaslighted me when i explained to him that i was “getting well”. But that was a “insult to his intelligence” to think that he didn’t have the “right diagnosis”. He really didn’t like the idea, that i was learning that i didn’t “need” him. Dr. God, all the way….
🫶🏻Amen 🤍✝️🕊️
This reminds me of Jonathan Lear on Freud. The unconscious does not have to be a mysterious place, nor is it even a place separate from the conscious mind. Our outbursts come from emotions and coping mechanisms we’ve had since infancy. Just because you’re an adult experiencing an emotion does not mean it is an “adult” emotion.
we really need more people like you
then become one
You are an endless fountain of mind blowing information. Thank you for making videos.
Thank you. I had a breakdown at 21 and I’ve been through trauma as a child and unfortunately it was in a public place, one day I’ll write a book about it. They tried labeling me as schizophrenic at first but luckily I got a better psychiatrist and eventually healed a bit.
yes good for you - avoid that diagnosis like the plague! so long as you are not having active psychotic symptoms and can avoid (as we all want but sometimes life happens to the unfortunate few) acute situations of extreme distress that bring on breakdowns then you’re good. i’m happy you’re doing well and stable on meds. being shuttled around the system with that schizophrenia dx on your chart is the dead end of dead ends and it’s scary how close you can come to being put in that “inconvenient” category of the population… sadly nuance is lacking for psychological “authorities” and individual PhDs have little say on what the field proclaims on these diseases and their etiology. i feel you though, been through similar but not so acute and public so much as slow insidious creep that came crashing down on me one day. but healing is possible so i hope no one reading this loses hope.
What's the name of the psychıatrıst? Where do they lıve?
Intentional, purposeful, present and supported parenting-- Those moments with a baby are so precious and not to be rushed past. When they have no verbal but so many ways to communicate, a parent has to listen deeply.
We have to see our infant.
We have to see our dog.
Both non verbal and powerless- we have a commitment. And so many new parents have been told otherwise… bottles, day care at six weeks 😢.
Your analogy to a dog is perfect.
Interesting indeed.
I'm a 72 year old Australian who's been a wandering nomad all my life, seemingly unable to make a relationship (I'm gay), wondering why I feel lost.
A choice of going into high school teaching in state schools was traumatic and I left Australia and went into language teaching in SE Asia late 20s.
Estranged from Christian family because of my being gay...
Now after listening to Gabor Maté and others I feel I must have been traumatised as a kid. This vid has really hit home though.
My mum was , I have been suspecting, traumatised as a child. (As I have been trying to put this together in recent years..).she in turn "acted out" with my dad and then he died at 51 when I was 11.
Mum became deeply depressed, psychotic and schizophrenic. In late teens I remember reading Mary Barnes by RD Laing.
I appreciate your insights, impressions and I sense that it makes sense. The pathologising psychiatric thing was, I knew as a teenager, all wrong. Mum had shock treatment and was on drugs for the rest of her life.
Now I feel a deep feeling of sadness. I'm following the world situation in pain and everywhere I look whether at myself or at friends I feel so sad.
The tragedy of poor parenting.. the horror of war..(..my mum's dad fought in WW1, ..) the larger pathology of capitalism,... All can be seen in relation to this underlying problem of poor, bad or absent quality parenting.
Do I gather you have left your work as a therapist. What do you do now?
2018. I felt myself being reborn. Back through the womb, things were coming together. I was beginning to make sense of things. I could piece my feelings together, I could feel my feelings, truly, for the first time. The world was full of possibility, and I acted like a child, for a moment, for a day, because I needed to, I needed to feel what I knew had been stuck inside of me for so long. I felt happy. What happened after that? My Mum wouldn't listen. I was put into hospital and drugged with the highest dose of olanzopene, lithium, valium ect ect. Completely shut down. retraumatised. It has been a process coming back. I was there, I was nearly there. I am still there and learning how to process slowly. I just wonder what would have happened if I had been given a few more days. Just a small period of time to wait it out, to process it. Who knows. That isn't the way things happened, I just have to do what I can now. it's so hard. It's so hard.
My major psychotic break happened when I was thirteen years. I hid in a closet and didn't tell my dad or sister who were barely there anyway. I had gotten agoraphobic and if I asked for help going to the store I was made fun of. This all was a bit of a delayed response to my mom beating me for a year and one day I knew she was going to kill me. I ran to school early and that's when I first felt I was in a "different reality" as I had become like a little rabbit or some small animal running through the fields. When I could speak again I told the school and showed them the beatings above my hairline and under my clothes. My dad and sister act like I was lying. They don't believe she was going to kill me. I truly hate my sister and father. I hate them. I hope they need help one day, I'm going to laugh in their faces and mock their misery and gaslight them about whatever their problem is.
I thought people were after me when I was in the closet, but I knew it wasn't true, as I had some piece of me watching all of this. I just couldn't shake it. I'm glad I never told anyone. When I came out of it I just remember learning that there were some "places" I couldn't let my mind go. To this day I'm not really aware of what that means, but I've survived the rest of this bullshit life because of what I found there. I think I just had a mild psychotic break after I almost died of sepsis from a kidney injury that occurred when I was about eight but once again I was ignored. I thought my kidney symptoms were just me sucking because that's how my family made me feel about it when I was young and had symptoms of a scared ureter.
I don't even have psychosis to hide in now. I have no help. That's not true. Whoever this observer is inside of me, they've been compassionate, they've been empathetic, they've been really helping me. I suppose it's the "higher self" or God or something.
I suppose some people will say that I split but the split occurred in a different place than the higher self is. I'm not sure how to describe it, but I trust myself completely, not other people's explanations, and I know this to be true for me. My higher self also insists that I stay here, that I continue. I don't know why. I don't even want to.
And yea I do word salad, I don't view it as "psychosis". It makes sense in my brain, but I have no idea how to express it.
I hate the intellectual studies.
This video helps me too cause maybe I need to accept that life coach, or that woman who offered to help me for free, who does EFT and emotion code and all that, but trusting others is scary.
I've experienced bizarre emotions that I don't believe or agree with but I felt as a child and it's confusing cause it feels like terror in my body regardless.
I have had a therapist downplay my trauma. She was an eating disorder therapist. I have an eating disorder due to sexual abuse, maternal narcissism and growing up in a rigid religion, etc, she didn't want to look at any of that. She even told me it doesn't matter.
Fuck her, it does. Otherwise I wouldn't have the eating disorder. I wasn't born hating and distrusting my body and looking at it as a product to view.
@Sara Hamzi It sounds like she no longer has that therapist.
what an interesting idea! I worked with seniors in nursing homes for a short period of time. Almost everyone I worked with was diagnosed with "Dementia". What I found so fascinating was their ability to be aware of their surroundings but not able to express it effectively, and perhaps even confused reality with a memory or thought they had (because we know dementia can do that). Reality still impacts them, they just express how it impacts them in a very different, albeit sometimes confusing and scary manner. But the best advice someone gave me was "learn their language". And I think that's just invaluable advice when communicating with others in general. It completely changed the way I communicated with my Clients, and it's resonating with me now in my personal life, as well.
Im from Portugal and I had really good treatment from my first psychotic break. Im forever grateful for their support
Daniel you are a blessing and as someone who has gone through just this and hospital systems too many times. You are speaking truth. Everything you are saying is accurate and helps me feel understood.
Thank you for your time
Thanks so much. I’ve been having problems with psychosis. I had no idea I was in it until a friend pointed out my delusions to me. I’ve always known about my severe childhood trauma, but I didn’t know it could cause this. You give me hope for recovery and TBH as soon as I started acknowledging this psychosis I began to get better. Now I know I am on the road to healing after listening to your explanations.
Juicing veggies and fruits.
8.25 - 100% brilliant insight. Like a conditioned, 2-dimensional, intellectual 'adult', attempting to process the 10-dimensional (trauma) reality of childhood. Love your work and insights ❤
Excellent analogy. I’ve also noticed that emotionally unavailable people are never in tune to their dogs needs which also reflects in the way they treat humans.
If you see this, I love you dude.
I swear on everything that I am- my story of childhood adversity and mental health treatment as an adult obliterated my entire existence. Yet, I am still alive and doing better now.
The amount of energy I’ve had to expend in order to stay alive and to heal is astronomical.
Please know that you have been a real gift for me. Thank you so much!
Thanks!
Thanks for approaching psychological problems in such a humane manner. You're helping us therapists see things from a totally different perspective to the one of the official science.
Thank you so much, thank you so much, thank you so so much. I just went through the worst psychotic break and the only reason I got out alive was there's someone who was willing to be in that space with me, and actually validate my experience as a warranted reaction to past abuse and trauma and convinced me the self-destructive "word salad" I say is not coming from me, that I am okay, I am okay the way I am, I just need love and time, and you know what? I healed in a month, rather than my past 10 years in "professional mental health care" they only up my sedative drugs to further numb my bad feelings when it's only normal to feel bad about bad experiences, it's necessary to figure out what to do next, they are very griefphobic and fatphobic when I gained weight because of the unnecessary meds too!! I'm just so glad I'm still alive. I never wanted to die. I want to live but I couldn't understand how reality works because of the amount of medical gaslighting and every other manipulation to my reality that people including close family and friends put me through. I had to completely alter my reality and the chemical drugs further worsen that in my brain neurotransmitters level.. really.. I just stopped cold turkey 10 years of meds about 8 months and I went to deep nonstop psychosis for 3-4 months but even in total state of delirium I feel better than my past 10 years being medicated, why? Because finally I can validate myself for feeling crazy. I said, "It's only normal I feel crazy I just got off meds so suddenly." That made me happier than the past 10 years, considering how people persistently invalidated years worth of traumatic experiences in my adolescence. That's why I didn't understand reality, everyone else flipped it to me, that I need to flip it again, so U could feel a little love that maybe people did love me all along and help me too, that maybe I really was the problem beyond repair. But no, only because of one person who went through similar trauma, I almost instantly felt okay, I just needed my pain to be known, so I can know reality, stop dissociating and daydreaming in alternate reality, that I can live as a human being rather than staying dehumanized by other humans, thinking to myself I deserved the punishment for my non-crimes crimes.. thank you my one person in the world..
The root of the problem is the false divide we've made between thought and emotion. Emotions are thoughts.
Most people are dissociated from their emotions because they’re repressing their own early childhood trauma.
A wrong psychiatrist can do much more damage than the person experienced in childhood.
You've gotten me through the deepest depression of my life. I love that you're analytical yet passionate when you discuss these psychiatric/psychological phenomenas. The way you communicate to your audience is so validating. It's like reversing the gaslighting I've gone through my entire life
I love you so much. You friggen nail it every time. Thank you so much for continuing to share your perspective.
And we can't forget thoughts themselves in purest form are visual. People are seeing their thoughts. Inside out while in psychosis.
I have never suffered from psychosis, but someone very dear to me does. This video is at the same time very hopeful and very sad. Thank you for sharing
Their is a spiritual phrase: „To raise a child we need the whole village.“ If a child gets psychotic it’s not only a lost for the family but for the whole village. My biggest wish is to come out of the shit I’m in right now to help with my knowledge afterwards.
Oh, thank you so much. About the dog, it’s devastating but the truth ! People don’t want to face how this abandonment feels. My dog is my best friend, my teacher, and the sweetest soul that saved my life. I never let him alone. I have since 2015 psychsic episodes and my dog was always there just tears from grattitude.
Hi Daniel! I agree what you said here 100%, but I would like to add that not only is psychosis (and mania, for that matter) an expression of trauma, but it is also traumatic/ a trauma in itself. I have experienced both a psychosis and a manic episode and boy oh boy do I get flash backs from both of them.
I have felt extreme horror in psychosis, in fact I thought I was going to die and that people tried to poison me (this was just one example of how I thought I was in life-threatening danger) . Isn't that traumatic, even if it wasn't a real threat? My whole body and my nervous system was in a fight-or-flight mode all the time during my psychosis. It must have affected my brains and my memories.
Then the manic episode, how I embarassed myself and put myself in risky situations socially, emotionally and physically. It felt like someone else did all those risky social things, not me. So in a way I feel traumatised or violated by my manic alter ego or something. Sometimes I feel like I would need therapy just to process all the things that happened in my mania and how it affected me and my relationships after it ended when I realized all the things I did then. It's incredible how psychiatry doesn't really ackowledge these things as trauma, though.
@@heather5276 that is incredible to hear that the psychiatry field is waking up to this fact. And I am sorry for you to have gone through such traumatic events. Yes I agree that Daniel is ahead of his time in many ways. I think what helps in situations like ours is trying to grow your sense of self-awareness about your past and what might have contributed to these events (long-term stress prior to episodes, family and relationship dynamics etc) and just trying to take care of oneself's physical, social, emotional and spiritual needs. Thank you for sharing experience, it helps me to not feel alone with mine.
@@heather5276 I want to also add that having these experiences can be either harming your self-growth or potentially adding information about your past why they happened in the first place. Maybe psychosis or mania try to show us something about our wounds that we have been trying to ignore. That has helped me to deal with these episodes even if it hurts to just think about them. And I am not trying to glorify these altered states.
It’s really hard to go through trauma when nobody seems to understand!
That’s awful. The poor dogs. You are so right, Daniel. I’ve noticed that, by and large, homeless people’s dogs are happier because they’re out with their owners all the time. Even my cat, who has the run of the whole house and gardens, doesn’t like me being away for long and greets me like a dog. I think this daycare thing with babies and small children is damaging and parents are in denial. I’ve seen the damage play out through friends’ children. My friend’s child sulked and wouldn’t speak to her mum because she’d been dumped in daycare and yet my friend said, “I don’t understand. She loves going.”
I wonder if he has ever worked with people in psychosis. Would love for him to write a book of how they came out of it. These data abstracts are not very useful. Once you are in psychosis, it is more than "ideas" and "feelings". You have a concrete reality that does not match others', just like someone with certain brain injuries. Of course improving the emotional basis and memory underlying them helps a lot. Takes a lot to make alternative reality disappear though.
My parents acknowledged a few things that were messed up but that didn't solve anything. I still do not prefer their company. I think the saddest part of the whole thing is the potential that exists for a loving relationship is gone - this includes the grandchildren that they will not see.
your children will also have issues with you the same way
I see where you're coming from. And I agree. You have every right to feel that way if your parents abused you in any way shape or form.
I also deal with this issue, seeing my father daily, while the potential of him not seeing me anymore when I will move out (I'm currently living with him).
@@nabilc1667 I really don't believe anyone who doesn't have some disappointment with there parents
Freud wrote tons about hysteria also going back to childhood trauma ❤️ The childhood can be a mine field for parents and the kids trying to navigate it.
it's all one great vicious cycle, the whole economy is built around a loss of meaning catering to base instincts
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The dog exemple just broke my heart.
Ps: something i noticed, with my parents anyway, is that they gave us this label from early childhood (when physical closeness was inevitable and so any caring parent whould have time to observe his child) and then they kept explaining all our actions and emotions and thoughts through that prism. For exemple, they remember i once, at 5 y old maybe, got so upset that i pulled on my dress so hard and almost tore it, with bottons flying everywhere.. So they labelled me '' el mo3saba'', meaning the angry one.. And so all my life when i rised my voice they jumped on that explanation, when i protested against my physical abuse, they said i was simply too headstrong and i was provoking' 'him' '. causing my punishments.. It s like they quit trying to know us as a person since those easy lables, that were most likely projections from themselves on us, and also they hold to the events from an age we are inable to remember, so we start having these recreated memories from the stories we ve been told..
This is spot on. This is brilliant. And so good and insightful. I had a psychotic break around 23-24 due to career and love failure, but really it was my traumatic childhood bursting out, which I only realized after I tried to kill myself. I fully agree with and relate to everything you've said here. Thank you for this, kind sir.
Great analogy for what humans do to each other, and then put on a pretense that everyone is "fine"!!! Things were never meant to be this way!
I so agree with you Daniel. Parents do a horrific job at parenting.
VERY Horrific.
Of course they do. They often have children to use in order to give themselves a purpose
Especially for me; narcissistic mother and empathetic daughter relationship.
@@zoraidacastro2703Same, it's like they treat us as an accessory. A mere plaything to show off their legacy. As the saying goes, every child deserves a parent but not every parent deserves a child.
@@fallenlotus9572 yes and it got much worse with age.
What you said about parents not acknowledging their childhood trauma is true.
I’m diagnosed with schizotypal personality disorder and I think I can trace it back to when I was around 12. After the death of my grandfather I became an outcast at my school and the one person who I thought would help me would only tell me that my suicidal behavior would lend me into hell. I would constantly pray to god, asking for forgiveness, but it never came. Not too long after I had these “paranormal experiences” and I thought it was connected to me being able to communicate with spirits. About a couple years later in high school, I was sexually assaulted multiple times and I had no one to turn to. These thoughts built up more and more until eventually, I started having these small psychotic breaks from reality. It ruined my life, it ruined my relationship and for the longest time I thought I was just unlucky. When it was most likely linked to those two events in my childhood.
My first criminally-stupid psychologist questioned me when i was 20 whyyyyy i didn't tell her and make HER JOB EASIER by telling her allll the details about the horrendous abusive profound neglect and traumatic events i was thrust upon at age 1. You described my experience to a T. They numbed me and castrated me...... where were you at age 20, Daniel???? Common sense as you described here in this video was squashed and big pharma ruled. 15:56 is how my sadist mother did to me.
Thank you my daughter was hospitalized teice at the beginning of 2023 brief psychosis and medicated. It was scary !!! Initially misdiagnosed bipolar. A friend of mine said one day, “don’t obsess about the diagnosis, it’s pain manifesting, trauma, and love heals” she’s much better now has a bf a job going to school lives with me, but I feel fear sometimes when she changes all of a sudden she’s distant can’t look at me in the eyes she’s snappy even aggressive verbally I am scared of another episode and of realizing she has a mental health illness. I wish she had a therapist like you ! I look for information like this so I can better understand and improve my relationship with her and build trust and help hold a healing space
Dr. Bernie Siegel once said that "talk is the kiss of life" in other words "talk therapy". Unfortunately, finding a psychiatrist who still does this kind of therapy has become rare. The government medical plan here in Canada wants to cut their appointment times to simply medicate or numb the pain since it's much cheaper & less time consuming, (Time is money) Counselors & therapists who will do talk therapy, must be paid for out of your own pocket & few of us can afford that. Since beggars can't be choosers, drugging is all that's offered now unless you are rich. Since most of us are just squeaking by there's little chance of really resolving anything these days.
This is brilliant! Only compassion and respect can heal
From studying my own mind. Psychosis begins as escapism from an unpleasant environment. This develops the psyche or escape into imagination. Then this can bleed into reality
Maybe. I was working in a warehouse and wasn't dating anyone or hanging out with friends and social events, just working. It was hell so I did escape into my imagination on a daily basis. That working environment might have contributed to my psychosis. Thanks for your input, it helps alot!
This is exactly what happened to me. I had a spiritual awakening / psychosis 14 years ago. For the first time since I was a small child I felt connected to my true self. It was like coming home. At the same time I had to deal with the sadness, anger and the big mess of traumas and fears that came up when I realized I had been living as a false self. The dominant figures of my family could not accept me or acknowledge anything as "real" when this happened. I was dismissed as mentally ill and forced into a mental institution and medicated against my will. After 6 weeks I got out of there more miserable and lost than ever, but now formally diagnosed as sane. Only 10 years later did I start to realize I had not been menatlly ill. So now I'm still healing from the trauma of both childhood and this event. I was never allowed to be my true self. My whole life has been a state of cognitive dissonance but I'm learning to trust my truth day by day.
This is exactly my story as well, I was 19-20 what you described happened to me. I took an SSRI for years, not being aware nor informed how it was really affecting me, until I stopped taking it cold turkey and my life went to hell, everything that was chemically suppressed came back and I was not prepared to handle it and to understand it.
@@Gonzo-GT Thanks for sharing hope you are doing well now. Nice to hear I am not the only one...
@@sofias1422 You are not the only one. If you want to share something more related to your story I'd like to hear it. It's validating.
@@Gonzo-GT I think what I wrote covers the story but of course there is a lot more. I'm also curious about your story
@@sofias1422 Well, like Mackler said, when I was 19-20 years old I had some kind of crisis, quarter life crisis, existential crisis, whatever you want to call it, I felt like I the same trauma that I experienced was happening all over again, they were the same feelings but the circumstances were different and unrelated. I suffered bullying in high school for years, not the worst case ever, but it was a terrifying experience for me that really scarred me psychologically. I also come from a dysfunctional family, I never really felt secure around them. So when I was 19-20 I felt that way and I wanted to understand why, to control it, to overcome my suffering. I tried to heal, but I isolated myself and stopped eating well, trying to control my Flashbacks and PTS symptoms. Then I was involuntary commited to a psychiatric ward and drugged with Sertraline under coercion. Truth to be told, when I got out I took them in part because I ran away from my PTS symptoms. When I was involuntary commited I even told the psychiatrist that diagnosed me with OCD that I thought I had PTSD, because I had flashbacks and other symptoms like nightmares, he just didn't listen at all and diagnosed me with that, which ended being an extremely harmful diagnosis for me. Years later I stopped taking Sertraline, the SSRI I was taking, and a very shitty withdrawal started. I wasn't informed about withdrawal or in detail about anything important. My trauma came back, coinciding with a very traumatic breakup and my reality and identity basically collapsed, which was pathologized but I wasn't really aware because of medical spellbinding effects.
Psychosis can be brought on by trauma in distant or recent past.
I was bullied in grade school and my parents had trouble with me from 3 years old until I left home. My parents tried. My sister was everyone’s star child because she was athletic and very smart. I struggled with mental health issues, cognitive issues and clumsiness. I also had weird behavior and weight issues. I developed schizoaffective disorder. But, I know it’s physical and medications help a little. I tried to fit in. But, it was so hard.
Quite like Gabor Mate..
The entire "system", "categories/lables", "treatments" and the DSM all need major revision. Better yet, start over from scratch!
As it is at the moment - the current system does far more harm than good.
Brian Marshall gabor and daniel are my top two. No one else seems to “get it” like they do.
Please make a video for those people who are traumatized again from therapists. Say that psychotherapy can be harmful.
@Sarah Min Don't make a diagnosis about what has happened to me. I am destroyed by therapists and I am the only that knows what has happened to me. Only me. No one else. The trauma I had, became worse. If we accept that a therapist can do good also can do bad. If I have said though that I was heeled not traumatized what would you say? I hate it when people doubt other's feelings or what they have suffered.
@@Bucelcpsdr I hurt too much from what they have told me and I feel trapped from what they have told me. I feel like they controlled my mind I feel like I did everything they wanted without wanting it. I 've been told that I have no right to exist. I have lost my ego I don't exist any more obeying in what they have told me like a bad mother.
@@Bucelcpsdr Don't you think that I have not tried to explain what will help me. Don't you think that I have said with all possible ways that something hurt me please let's see what it is?. They don't listen. I wish I had the power back then to stand up for me and say no we will not discuss what you want, we will discuss what I want because this is my hour my time and I pay for it. And if I say that you have hurt me with what you have said you have hurt me. This is my truth and I will respect it. This is the real therapy of one's self. After that, you feel strong and good and doing it every day to make you get better. Only this. But in therapy, you are devastated for help and they don't listen. They don't care. I have spent thousands of money and years. Over 10 years. They don't listen. Don't ever trust a psychologist. Never. They are the worst persons I have ever met. Stay away. They don't want to help. They want to have you there for years to take your money and cover their own insecureness by playing mother or father or god. Believe me. If a person has a lot of problems (narcissists, sadists, insecure, unloved childhood) he/she becomes a psychologist and this solves all the problems because he knows he/she controls instead of being controlled. He/she feels the power in this position. Stay away really. The only one who can help is your self and no one else. Before they get in your soul and destroy anything that is left inside. They want to control you. This gives them power. Because this is what has happened to me. Some day someone will say about the destroyable consciousness of therapy and how this is all a fraud that has started with this scam, Freud. Read the Black Book of psychoanalysis.
@@Bucelcpsdr Really I don't believe in mental illness I only believe in bad childhood I believed all of her problems and adult life has been caused from a travmatized self travmatized feelings ang ignolleged needs.A hated child is a destroyed adult. Even schizophrenia is the results of a cruel mother. For me all the sympots you mentioned are bad childhood plus bad therapy. Things are simple if you know what to focus on in order to heal. You take your mind from others needs and transfer to yours. Without knowing you have been programmed to fulfill others needs, to accept others thoughts and believes. That's why you feel pressured and make symptoms. You don't have contact with your self. You don't stand up for you needs, emotions thoughts. You don't Stan up inside you. This is what everybody tries to fix in therapy unconscious. That every they say or feel or need is recognized it is like that. A cruel therapist will not give that but will also can cause you harm but creating another law in your mind. Because he or she don't want to give you what you need what you are there for repeats Tha bad play in your life. Keeps you more in jail. I have observed all this years especially after what happened to me with psychoanalysis that I was suppressed to follow orders to be a good child. My therapy didn't liberated me or give me the tools to be liberated my self as supposed to be but kept me in prison and made me more obient and suppressed me more. Finally she took myself away completely. That was the last law the last order not to exist. All that in a subconsciously way speaking in that very sensitive and woonded part and without fenses if our self. I think I will never recover a word of a therapist is stronger than the word of a mother. If your therapists tells you so it is so. That's is how I came up to this conclusions. That's why I believe schizophrenia is mental illines but created by a mother or a father. I can talk for ours about these subjects. I have read thousands of books. Very good book are Body never lies of Alice Miller if you are interested. A former psychoanalysist that abandoned it after 20 years and starting writing books. Very good one. The only way of healing if you don't have above you self an order to forbite it is to hear your self, respect your self and recognize that what you what you feel what you have experience this is it. Only when realized how travmized is everyone s action on you and admit it only then you mad you recognize this mad and you respect your self. Sorry for the long message. Nice talking.
I believe that had a psychotic break between the age of 8 and 9. I check all the boxes for psychosis indicators (delusions/hallucinations).I "remembered" this at 18 years old when I went to jail. Going to jail was stressful and it stirred up my memory. I honestly don't remember a lot of my childhood. My parents never got me any mental health help (mom is a narc and dad an enabler).After going through psychosis I believe I developed Dissociative amnesia from the trauma hence my poor memory.
This is a really good explanation. My mom had bad childhood trauma, and when I was 17 and she was in her early 30s she had "depression" and "anxiety." She had it for 5 years and she was hallucinating and very anxious like paranoid. I had no clue what was going on. They didn't involve me. I asked her later how she got healed and she told me she read her bible and prayed. She pushed through with God's help because she had 2 very young boys. She and my father didn't have a great marriage. They were 16 and 17 when they had me. After she was better I always assumed she had depression. She never talked about it. Fast forward many years later, she got ill again and she came to live with me. She still wouldn't say what was going on and the docs, therapist, and psychiatrists weren't any help. She ended up taking her life last year. I honestly believe she was not 100% healthy. I have read so much literature, and I look back, and there were things she did that I wondered about. She got overwhelmed with life trials, angry, and very sensitive to things said, etc. She never dealt with her trauma. 5 years before she passed, she married someone that she was not happy with and she ended up telling him to leave. I think she associated the pain from that relationship and the abandonment from her mom. This is painful for me now. I wish I would have just forced to be admitted.
What about an adult who’s maturity is delayed and under stress they go through psychotic breaks. This young woman took antidepressant and it made it extreme. Her mother appears to me like she is a malignant narcissist. Muffins, Cupcakes, and all things material, but the mother never worked a day in her life. She has one adult dx as Schitzoaffective, claimed the daughter is bipolar, and had her youngest son on psych drugs for anxiety. I’ve been working with her and I am convinced this mother is the one with psychopathy and the adult kids are mentally ill by proxy. This woman is the true definition of a parasite. She is a gift giving manipulator and literally had the kids dx as slow. I never bought it. I worked with the young woman who went on to go to college and was top in her classes. 2 of the adults still live at home, both or mid 20s and early 30s. It’s heartbreaking. I don’t know how to help them. To me, this is abuse.
I've thought for ages that most everyone has PTSD OR CPTSD, and all other comorbid illnesses are what came along with the unaddressed trauma. 😢