i was on a neighboring dept down there by theses guys for 7 years. They do train ALOT. These folks did a GREAT job with the manpower they had at the time. They do have a hydrant, back by the forth truck on scene. They used the tenders to nurse until water supply was set up, yes they closed the road down, but it was gonna get closed down anyway.
This is a most professional volunteer fire department. I have ever seen on any video. It shows they drill a lot. And they know exactly what they're doing. God bless them
What about that volunteer department gave that away? The corn fields? The two man cab on the engine? The water tender? Volunteer departments aren’t all trash. They kicked this fires ass as far as I can tell.
That gal looked like she got a little interior work in. That job is not for the feint of heart. Back when SCBA were a new thing and interior work started getting serious I help instruct a college course called "Smoke Diving". Bring your own air pack, we got the training tower, trailers, and various simulators. A full week of stress, work, and torture. One of the first problems our poor recruits would face was a simulator mobile home fire. Real fire in a rear room with lots of heat and smoke. When the each team was finished we would take them into a side room which had a crib inside with a baby doll, usually covered in soot and untouched. Yeah, it was pretty cruel but, it got their attention for the rest of the week. And that was just the beginning.....
I'm guessing the 1st tanker is the "nurse" tanker, I'm puzzled. Why no Portatanks where not layed down that gives you 3000 per portatank gallons on the ground it's on the side of the 1st tanker why not using? , after the portatank is filled pump to tanker " nuse" plus 3000 in the nurse tanker as a reserve and start your dump and go circuits and pump to the nurse tanker as needed. Blue supply lines running all over the place from 1 tanker to another to another ties up space and clogs the road. Help me understand this?
U did not say "a backdraft is building." Lol I had a extensive career in the fire service, with every rank. Urban New Jersey. And I seen like 2 backdrafts lol
i was a vol. f f for 30 years . that was the most scrwed up fire set up ive seen . they should have set up the dunp tank . start pumping water with your pumper then get you dump tank set up fill your pumper back up from your dump tank . send your tanker for water pull your next tanker to your dump tank keep your dump tank fill .and you got tankers waiting full of water and your pumper just in case one of your tankers go down its called cya are lya !!!!!!
Lots of apparatus and operators, many FF. If you’re not qualified interior and you are an operator, then no reason for PPE. Clearly a volly dept. They sprung into as much action as possible with the available staffing. There’s not even enough for NFPA 2 in 2 out
Absolutely right Mule! You can't force volunteers to go interior if they don't want to. While I am constantly a strong advocate of PPE, it doesn't make you into an interior attack person. I saw only two interior firefighters and the first was down to a half cylinder before the second was ready. This is the sad reality of the rural department. City departments constantly siphon the good young firefighters away from the rural departments.
ok the second angle wasn't smart. you walked under a primary power line. i would have gone behind the tanker and that way in a yard. Now you're in danger zone.
Being a firefighter for many years if we had a structure volunteers who lived close to the fire showed up there firefighters from the station in route would bring those guys there gear. When you get into a truck where i was yes you had to be fully in your ppe. Minus the scba. Cause like one person said the trucks you get sometimes are not user friendly. But you make due . I was kinda shocked that they didn't do a draft tank set up but who knows without being on scene and the fire involvement how things needed to be . Anyway its not uncommon for very rural departments to have there gear in the pov vehicles to save going long distances to the fire station. Just input without being on scene its hard to judge
@9caplad how do you know its a small fire at the onset? We automatically drop a tank and nurse off our 7000 gallon tractor drawn tanker. While our 3000 gallon pumper/tanker starts shuttling with mutual aide tankers joining in as arrival.
You were paged for a structure fire. Why did nobody have their turnout gear on? I've operated driven fire apparatus in full PPE before, so "I was the driver" is no excuse.
Have you seen the trucks that we deal with on the volunteer side? Most are commercial trucks that have been retrofitted for the fire service after market. The cabs are so tight you can barely breathe. There's barely enough room for a basic medical bag in the middle of the bench seat and you need every inch of space possible in the cab. Also, imagine driving a stick shift with your massive boots on in bunker gear in a cramped space. Not gonna happen. On top of that, in rural operations water supply is always the constraint, so the goal is to get your tank of water to the scene as fast as possible. If you spend 2 minutes getting geared up prior to leaving the station then that's two minutes of the first due engine being out of water. It's SOP for every department in my area to get your gear on on-scene. Strap your gear to the bumper, or stuff it in the engineer's compartment, or stick it up on the hosebed, but gear doesn't get put on until on-scene to prioritize water.
I grew up north on NYC along the Hudson. Population of 30k and a village within a town to cover. All volunteers! 9 fire companies including rescue and 2-3 ladder trucks. All were purpose built trucks! Town government to blame for bad equipment. Further north, where my uncle was a member, the firemen even owned the firehouse! Tons of training too!
Because mr expert in rural applications getting there as fast as possible is priority 1. There are fires I've actioned by myself with a ground monitor and I'm out of water completely 5.5mins from setting the parking brake. So I was pumper driver, pumper op, hose puller and have tied off the motior so it doesn't need to be manned while I try to protect an exposure or do some fast knockdown on a garage or any other defensive attack. If apparatus 2 shows up 2 mins behind me they have 3 mins to get me water. I'd be super pissed if I ran out because 2 or 3 were donning SCBA when that wasnt how they were going to be tasked. There are times that people 2 3 4 and 5 to show up need to supplying the pumper in order to secure a constant flow.
@@gewurzgurkenkaiser2575 Yes, we don't care about the time it takes to put on an SCBA. Our department of 15 people uses an SCBA on average once a year. Our training focus is on water supply, because when we roll up to a fire we only have 750 gallons until we get a water supply going. Our training is on pulling water out of 3inch deep, 2ft wide creeks, setting up LZs for helicopters in medical emergencies, remote wildland fire control, and offroad driving with a 30,000lb truck. SCBAs are way down at the bottom of our list along with vehicle Traffic Management.
What you just watched was red blooded American middle class working men and women save someone's house while they could have been at their job, with family or working the fields. However is looks, good or bad, it's all that's left of us rural volunteers dragging our asses to help people no matter what the cause.
Well done everyone. Theres not much left of us rural volunteers who jump.at the call to go help anyone in need.
i was on a neighboring dept down there by theses guys for 7 years. They do train ALOT. These folks did a GREAT job with the manpower they had at the time. They do have a hydrant, back by the forth truck on scene. They used the tenders to nurse until water supply was set up, yes they closed the road down, but it was gonna get closed down anyway.
They did a bang up job at least they tried. My hat off to them❤❤❤❤❤😊
This is a most professional volunteer fire department. I have ever seen on any video. It shows they drill a lot. And they know exactly what they're doing. God bless them
I was on a vtfiredept. We trained ever. Tuesday. For 30 yrs. Plus work fulltime 12 hr job❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
You can tell this is a volunteer Dept. With very little training but hats off to them for the dedication
looks like they know what they are doing to me so far!
What about that volunteer department gave that away? The corn fields? The two man cab on the engine? The water tender?
Volunteer departments aren’t all trash. They kicked this fires ass as far as I can tell.
Maybe the fact it literally said volunteer fire department on the side of their truck?
I will say though, daisy chaining tankers together is dumb as fuck. They should be using their dump tanks and getting more water.
The guy in the gray tee shirt really got to work fast along with the young lady who suited up quick and went to work good job by all.
Coughs from smoke. Is where the smoke is driving away from him.
need water, smoke isn't the direction is the of fire. Hit A and C or you will lose her and vent. Problem when you have NO hydrants
Kudos guys great job
That gal looked like she got a little interior work in. That job is not for the feint of heart. Back when SCBA were a new thing and interior work started getting serious I help instruct a college course called "Smoke Diving". Bring your own air pack, we got the training tower, trailers, and various simulators. A full week of stress, work, and torture. One of the first problems our poor recruits would face was a simulator mobile home fire. Real fire in a rear room with lots of heat and smoke. When the each team was finished we would take them into a side room which had a crib inside with a baby doll, usually covered in soot and untouched. Yeah, it was pretty cruel but, it got their attention for the rest of the week. And that was just the beginning.....
I'm guessing the 1st tanker is the "nurse" tanker, I'm puzzled. Why no Portatanks where not layed down that gives you 3000 per portatank gallons on the ground it's on the side of the 1st tanker why not using? , after the portatank is filled pump to tanker " nuse" plus 3000 in the nurse tanker as a reserve and start your dump and go circuits and pump to the nurse tanker as needed. Blue supply lines running all over the place from 1 tanker to another to another ties up space and clogs the road. Help me understand this?
Because there was no water source?
U did not say "a backdraft is building." Lol I had a extensive career in the fire service, with every rank. Urban New Jersey. And I seen like 2 backdrafts lol
i was a vol. f f for 30 years . that was the most scrwed up fire set up ive seen . they should have set up the dunp tank . start pumping water with your pumper then get you dump tank set up fill your pumper back up from your dump tank . send your tanker for water pull your next tanker to your dump tank keep your dump tank fill .and you got tankers waiting full of water and your pumper just in case one of your tankers go down its called cya are lya !!!!!!
So the second truck now has the Rd blocked?.
Early guess is setting up tanker dump, but....
In my department you d get pull on the rug no gear on
Nice kwerth fire trucks
Pulling all that hose for no reason. Dump Tank System that’s why they are on the trucks. So much easier
Lots of apparatus and operators, many FF. If you’re not qualified interior and you are an operator, then no reason for PPE. Clearly a volly dept. They sprung into as much action as possible with the available staffing. There’s not even enough for NFPA 2 in 2 out
Absolutely right Mule! You can't force volunteers to go interior if they don't want to. While I am constantly a strong advocate of PPE, it doesn't make you into an interior attack person. I saw only two interior firefighters and the first was down to a half cylinder before the second was ready. This is the sad reality of the rural department. City departments constantly siphon the good young firefighters away from the rural departments.
There are career departments that don’t even staff properly for NFPA 2 in and 2 out
Why don’t you set up the dump tank instead of pumping off the tanker
Send more tankers and manpower
Armchair firefighters to the rescue!!!!!! y'all crack me up!!!!
where is this at, in what state and town.
Hamilton Indiana
Yeesh, no PPE on half of these firefighters, I just love these super human firefighters!
I'd be more concerned about finding a water supply.
ok the second angle wasn't smart. you walked under a primary power line.
i would have gone behind the tanker and that way in a yard. Now you're in danger zone.
With the amount of smoke being heat pushed and as charged it is, would had been nice to pop the hatch.
This is what happens when you don't pay your contractor.
Cool video.
Slow slow slow still have no water on the structure yet you gotta do better than that guys
Nobody is venting that roof. They just keep hooking tenders up. Interior attack is trash. Surely Canadians are aware of firefighting techniques.
This is not in Hamilton Ontario Canada which is a large city with a professional fire department.. Apparently it is Hamilton, Indianna
Being a firefighter for many years if we had a structure volunteers who lived close to the fire showed up there firefighters from the station in route would bring those guys there gear. When you get into a truck where i was yes you had to be fully in your ppe. Minus the scba. Cause like one person said the trucks you get sometimes are not user friendly. But you make due . I was kinda shocked that they didn't do a draft tank set up but who knows without being on scene and the fire involvement how things needed to be . Anyway its not uncommon for very rural departments to have there gear in the pov vehicles to save going long distances to the fire station. Just input without being on scene its hard to judge
It looks like thay were doing work on the the house and now house is on fire
Parking under the electrical line was not the smartest thing in the world.
Two words- drop tanks...
Not needed for a small fire like that
@9caplad how do you know its a small fire at the onset? We automatically drop a tank and nurse off our 7000 gallon tractor drawn tanker. While our 3000 gallon pumper/tanker starts shuttling with mutual aide tankers joining in as arrival.
Come on this is the one you been working for .don't give up your full time job, 😂😂😂😂
You were paged for a structure fire. Why did nobody have their turnout gear on? I've operated driven fire apparatus in full PPE before, so "I was the driver" is no excuse.
Have you seen the trucks that we deal with on the volunteer side? Most are commercial trucks that have been retrofitted for the fire service after market. The cabs are so tight you can barely breathe. There's barely enough room for a basic medical bag in the middle of the bench seat and you need every inch of space possible in the cab. Also, imagine driving a stick shift with your massive boots on in bunker gear in a cramped space. Not gonna happen.
On top of that, in rural operations water supply is always the constraint, so the goal is to get your tank of water to the scene as fast as possible. If you spend 2 minutes getting geared up prior to leaving the station then that's two minutes of the first due engine being out of water.
It's SOP for every department in my area to get your gear on on-scene. Strap your gear to the bumper, or stuff it in the engineer's compartment, or stick it up on the hosebed, but gear doesn't get put on until on-scene to prioritize water.
I grew up north on NYC along the Hudson. Population of 30k and a village within a town to cover. All volunteers! 9 fire companies including rescue and 2-3 ladder trucks. All were purpose built trucks! Town government to blame for bad equipment. Further north, where my uncle was a member, the firemen even owned the firehouse! Tons of training too!
@@the32712 You need 2 minutes to get your gear on? I need 40 sec. maximum (Without breathing aparatures)
Because mr expert in rural applications getting there as fast as possible is priority 1. There are fires I've actioned by myself with a ground monitor and I'm out of water completely 5.5mins from setting the parking brake. So I was pumper driver, pumper op, hose puller and have tied off the motior so it doesn't need to be manned while I try to protect an exposure or do some fast knockdown on a garage or any other defensive attack. If apparatus 2 shows up 2 mins behind me they have 3 mins to get me water. I'd be super pissed if I ran out because 2 or 3 were donning SCBA when that wasnt how they were going to be tasked. There are times that people 2 3 4 and 5 to show up need to supplying the pumper in order to secure a constant flow.
@@gewurzgurkenkaiser2575 Yes, we don't care about the time it takes to put on an SCBA. Our department of 15 people uses an SCBA on average once a year.
Our training focus is on water supply, because when we roll up to a fire we only have 750 gallons until we get a water supply going.
Our training is on pulling water out of 3inch deep, 2ft wide creeks, setting up LZs for helicopters in medical emergencies, remote wildland fire control, and offroad driving with a 30,000lb truck. SCBAs are way down at the bottom of our list along with vehicle Traffic Management.
Omg, what did I just watch? Smh
What you just watched was red blooded American middle class working men and women save someone's house while they could have been at their job, with family or working the fields. However is looks, good or bad, it's all that's left of us rural volunteers dragging our asses to help people no matter what the cause.