REPLACING Fork Tube SEALS On HARLEY Davidson 1994 EVO Heritage SOFTAIL / An Aftermarket FAILURE!
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Replacing my fork tube seals on my 1994 Harley Davidson Evo Heritage softail with OEM Harley Davidson fork tube seals after I didn't even get five thousand miles out of the aftermarket fork tube seals. A complete aftermarket failure.
Patreon: / saddletramptv
Support The Channel: www.paypal.com...
Instagram: / saddletrmp
Facebook: www.facebook.c...
This highlights the importance of always compare the new part to the old part. Sometimes you gotta use what you gotta use, happy to see you got it back on the road.
Since you do not have a fork seal installer, next time take a piece of PVC pipe that will slide down the fork and use it as a slide installer. Some times you may need to cut the PVC in half (long ways) to make it work. And sand the edge down so it will go in between the outer and inner tubes. It works in a pinch.
I've got a section of PCV that I'd been using for 39mm. Need to get one for 41mm now.
@@SaddleTrampTV Sounds like using a pipe to press bearings
🤙
That’s what I do. Nice job buddy.
Nice work ! These Japanese Showa (Honda) forks, almost all Harley Davidson's come with in different sizes are nice forks. One thing which really improves the ride is swapping out the original springs for Hyper-pro progressive springs; man what a difference !
Especially if you'd swap out the rear shocks as well with Hyper-pro progressive shocks, you would not recognize you own bike anymore! It will ride like a dream !
Good to see you taking care of that Heritage. It’s my favorite of your stable. 👍🏻
One of my favorites too
Between my 72 ironhead and 88 Heritage, you cover all the things I've needed to do so far. Thanks for the videos!
Finally did my seals in my 88, sure as shit I had the same aftermarket seals in it. The OEM one are tight. Thanks again for the video.
Dude, I just went through the same ish issue with a Ford Ecoboost engine with spark plugs tube seals. Last one leaked and dripped oil right on the turbo. Smoke for days. Customer parts. Tried to talk them out of it. Get Ford stuff. Had them sign the advise waver. Doing it again. Now a 250 dollar job is 400. Good customer so I gave them a little break. They are invited to our round up next month. It's a hundred dollar ticket and they saved a hundred on the redoing. They'll wind up buying one of my bikes so I can go get another to play with and flip another day. Good job. Great explanation on cheap parts ain't always cheap dependable job. Seen the van in the background. Made me smile. Memories of my own as I've owned several of those E150s. Good vans.
Great little movie those pinch bolts sheer also on Heritage
Man, there's nothing quite like the STINK of old fork oil! That rotten egg smell ... wheww!! I feel your pain on that "only one seal in stock" thing! This winter, I put new bushings and Leak Proof seals in my forks, and the Harley shop in Meridian only had one upper and one lower bushing, so like you said, somebody out there must have just replaced the bushings in one leg of the forks. That's sorta crazy to me! ... It's odd that whatever company made those seals made them so much shorter than stock. Probably trying the old "one size fits all" ideas where one size really doesn't fits any just right. Hopefully, it will be a good long while before you have to do your most best-est favorite thing in the world again, at least on that scoot... Nice camera work and narrating, Missus Tramp! Take care, guys :)
Good information on fork seals, a lot of guys use china seals and bearings, you are right OEM unless you can't get them anymore, great video, thx brother 🙏 may change my fork oil soon, 99 FLSTC n 78 FLH best both worlds, they can keep their Twinkies! Had a 2000 Road king after 5k lemon law it back to Harley for $19500.00.
Right on! Wtg! Ya make it look so simple!
After doing it so many times, it's a walk in the park. Just messy though.
Good job guys team work fun watching,Ride free 🇺🇸🇺🇸
I really like your videos and honesty. I also like the jazz organ in the video!!!!
Thanks!
Awesome tip with the allen wrench
Forks, Carbs, brakes, wheels, whatever.. whenever outsourced components are used, always look at the manufacturer for parts, rather than what they're bolted to, they're way more likely to never discontinue parts (try it with your Evo fuel tap, see if I'm right).
Great camera work. A moving camera adds life to the shots. If this kind of videoing continues, you'll be nominated for a Videography award on RUclips.
Thank you so much!
" A Bit Easier" I think you meant to say 😀
Like these instructional videos.this kind of stuff interest me.
You need to buy a front fork leg rebuild kit because the new sleeves have a Teflon coating on them. and when the old ones have the coating worn off they cause extra play in the forks causing the seals to leak. New seals will not permanently seal up the forks unless you get the complete rebuild kit.
Thanks for the tip.
Good to see you have common sense.
ruff as guts - awesome
You are good buddy. At least it wasn't the dresser they are a bit more trouble. Good video. Stay Safe.
Yeah really. Not looking forward to when I'll have to do it on the bagger.
& just like that , the Mother Forker is back together again !!!
Lol
Nothing wrong when we have to improvise using the tools that we have brother... Excellent install Corey.... Hey it was great to finally meet you and your better half too at Spring Fling brother👊🏽😎
It was so good to see you, Dan.
Fork seals are easy! You know after you get the brake line, tire, fender and windsheild off. Its easy!!! Nothing to it... lol
It's just messy though.
Back in "the good old days," I used to buy my fork seals from a local bearing supply shop. Chicago Rawhide made some great oil seals for hydraulic machinery. I adapted those seals to my 41 mm fork tubes (by Forking by Frank). Back in the early 1970s, I bought some six-over fork tubes from Barney's. The fit and chrome on those fork tubes (from Barney's) was top shelf. Thanks again, Corey and your Missus. God keep you both.
Great video and informative 😎👍
Loved the video.wife did a good job.shes a keeper.
Thanks for your kind words!!
great video and good info about not having to remove the springs. I need to replace seals on my aftermarket 41mm Wideglide forks on my 83 FXSB. How much fork oil? In the past I took the springs out and measured down from the top.
If I remember right; 7 1/2 ounces wet or 10 ounces dry. You might want to look in the book though. I'm not by mine right now.
changed seals several times on my 1975 fxe no need to remove tubes from triple tree
Yeah, I found that to be the case too when changing them on my shovelhead.
another great video Corey and your wife makes a good camera person 👍
Thanks Bill! I sent those pictures by way of FB messenger.
It's a little more easier to say a little easier.
Now the ride should be a little more better! 😂
Lol
she is an EXCELLENT camerawoman!
Thank you - I try!
Great video.. tell the misses she’s a natural.
Thank you!
Dang it man I'm on time
Right on!
If I had a buck for every Harley fork seal I replaced including my friends....I'de have 7 bucks!.....yea, I don't like doing them.
Well done and great video! I've been there before with rebuilding and changing out suspension. Great meeting you and the Mrs. at Spring Fling. Take care ✌
Awesome video, Saddle Tramp! Great camera work and music.
Thanks, man!
👍👍👍👍👍👍
Complimentary comment for Al and the GoRhythms
Job always goes better with light easy listening music, good job - Lefty👍 ( PS- most of my specialized parts are home made on the run stuff)
Hey Cor!!! Great to have you around. We still are in the 40's. So nut much riding. Thnx brother 4 the knowledge
Hey, man! Thanks! Any time!
My phone musta heard me swearing about my front forks that I been working on, I just replaced seals on my custum inverted front forks,
That front end had no markings on it solid chrome, like serial number, or what make, all I knew it needed a 54mm x 41mm x 11mm seal, I had to machine special tube wrenches to take it apart, I like that trick with the plastic, thanx,
Well I put together a front-end for that dyna 1997 . Because it had a Sportster frame and on it I put together and it look like I was digging potatoes with.. potatoes with the bike.. I speak of the one that was in the trailer that came off the hitch and went down in a ditch it was been up on both ends... My neighbor did a siding job for a fella and he got it for a couple hundred bucks.. he was nice enough to give it to me once I had put it back together for him.. I put together several bikes for him and help him out when I can.. so I bought some longer legs from a guy from Facebook.. the flea everything seemed fine but over the winter, the right leg had oil all over the tire. I haven't had a chance to look at it but,, I'm thinking that bolt in the end that holds it all together must have a seal at the end of it the one that is hidden by the axle.. so when I get a chance I got to find out what that is. I retired a while back and I'm more busy now than I was when I was working... Which is good I think because working is my exercise.. always enjoy your videos ✌️🖖🏍️
Bring it!
Nice to see ya man
Hey Tyler. Good seeing you as well.
Try a PVC coupling 2’’ to set the seal
I just replaced the seals on my wife''s Sportster using 11/2" pvc and was going to ask what size works well on the 41mm tubes that I need to do the same for on my Heritage. Thanks!
@@conservativeteacher1987 41 is 1 5/8 I split 2'" down to fit inside lower tube. I hold it together with thin wire. I hope that makes it
I liked that color combo when it came out and it still looks great.
Hay Cory you got my attention with the seals. I had a very slight leak on my 98 Fatboy and wouldn't have bothered until it got worse. Thanks to a kamikaze deer I was doing work on the front end. It seemed like a good time to put new seals and slides in. I did get seals from the dealer and glad things didn't turn out like yours did. I used a piece of PVC elect. conduit split in half. Not a perfect fit but close enough. I didn't know other people did that, I was just improvising. That's what I had so that's what I used. Ride safe, wrench on and keep the videos coming.
Corey, so good to see you doing what you like to do. I bet it was great having the Mrs. capture all the action. Maybe I'll see you on the road. Thanks for Sharing!
Maybe so!
Looks like a pretty simple process. Definitely like the top bolt where your not having to mess with the spring, wonder why 39mm tubes didn't use this concept.
Who knows?
Great do it yourself video Corey. Thanks for sharing and ride safe my friend.
Thank you, Ron
A lot of good information and how to how to do something like that for in the future. 😎👍stay safe
Very few aftermarket seals work as well as OEM. I believe SKF seals work pretty well.
It is nice being able to work with both hand and have someone else doing the camera work. Good job Mrs. Costelli
Thank you!
A piece of 2 to 2 1/2 inch pvc pipe works in a rush to seat those seals.
Educational and fun to watch...as usual 👍🤘
I used a piece of pvc to drive my seal in. Had to taper the end with a grinder. Hard to come off the bread for that HD tool.
Great video as always brother!
Good info to know. I have the same job lined up for my 1996. Figure I'll hit the fork seals while the front wheel is off for replacement. ✌😎
Glad this was a help
Nice video, just getting into doing my own maintenance on my 2021 street bob to which im doing a heritage front-end conversion. But in any event that was a nice tip on using OEM seals as apposed to aftermarket.
@@jamescollins5073 My experience, oem seems to be more resilient in most cases.
On my 1993 FXDWG had aftermarket fork seal installed and they were leaking after 100 miles , t then replaced them with genuine OEM seals and they lasted for 100,00 miles
Good deal.
I want to chang oil fork.H.D.oil B ??? Electra 1987 🙃
I just use 20w fork oil.
if you have to do this again you can cut a schedule 20 1 1/2" PVC pipe about 4 to 6 inches long then cut it in half the long way so it fits over the fork tube it works great at getting the bushing in with out any chance of damage. schedule 40 may fit also..
That’s a pretty awesome camera lady you got there.
Solid tip on the allen bolt removal!
Thanks Jay - I try!
@@themissuscostelli497 *Yoda enters the chat
“Do, or do not. There is no try. “
(Before my last comment gets taken the wrong way.) 😁
@@JaySorsby1 😂 all good!
Makes you wonder what other inferior product's there supplying. Surely before producing them they must have the dimensions of the original seals.
Or is it saving money.
You would think
What windshield do you have on the heritage? What size? I have a 93 and am looking to buy a windshield.
Also, what size bars are they?
Thank you!
Not sure what brand of windshield. I bought off of an individual. The bars are from Flanders and have a 12" rise.
Using PVC piping the size of you forks works the best if you didn’t have a seal tool, one tool is a couple hundred dollars, and the other is a couple of dollars, and works better then a screw driver.
I need to get a piece. I have one that I use for 39mm, but not 41mm.
Harley Davidson doesn't make fork seals , they buy them.
Gotcha
New shop is looking good.
Another good one 👍👍
l did my 94 FLSTN falk seal's last year..... job well done mate.... there an easy bike to work on no special tool required.......cheers
It's just a messy job at times. I never can get away without an oily mess of some sort.
@@SaddleTrampTV l love oil on my shed floor..means lm doing somthing... cheers
What kind of seals were the thin ones that didn't last? I did my seals last year, and still saw oil on my forks after for a few months. I think I just didn't clean up the outside of the seal enough. Haven't noticed any lately. I used James seals.
I really don't remember what brand they were.
How is your Back ? Enjoyed video as always , If Harley seals aren't to be had I use James seals and gaskets .
Doing much better. Thank you, Howard.
Hey is this the same forks as my 1992 electric glide ultra?
Not sure. Never took one of those apart.
Did you not have the right tools the first time that could have messed up the after market stuff
Not to my knowledge
Compared to the most of HD riders someone in their 40's is a young rider.😂😂😂😂
Yeah really
You need to stop poppin wheelies Cory. LMAO 🤣🤣
Yeah really
Do you have to take the bottom bolt off at the dampener rod to get to the seal and take it off? Or can you change the seal without loosen the dampener?
Yes. The bolt has to come out.
i have had good results using leak proof brand for seals. i think they are made in usa...
I'll have to look into that.
Nice how to Cory and your wife did a great job filming it to. Can't wait to hear your thoughts on how it worked out for you..
Works great!
Nine times out of ten your gona bugger up the bushing/seal when you install without the proper tool . You'll be the first to know
That's why I used carefully light taps.
Great video very well edited interesting great transition of shots. Well done! I even learned something new. Ride Safe
Hey, Kevin! Always good to see you, man.
PVC pipe the correct ID makes a great seal driver ...
I need to get one for 41mm. I've got one for a 39mm.
How much fluid do you put back in?? Thanks
Whatever the book said. Can't remember off hand.
8:35 a tip for next time: I use a piece of electrical shrink tube over the transition between bowden cable and front wheel pickup, to keep dirt and water out.
Thanks for the tip!
Cool content
duct tape and zip ties !!!!!!! 👍🏼
Yeah really!! Lol
I enjoyed the video & enjoyed it tremendously
Glad you enjoyed it, man!
That top cap is nice! I wish my Dyna had that cap! The 49mm is a bear to reinstall! I just changed out the original oil in my tubes. And I was dreading threading the caps back by pushing down on those monstrous springs! Persistence pays off!! Anyway, I have a vintage XS1100 with dainty 37mm tubes. HAHAHAHA....... and did the same ebay buy-on-cheap fork seal replacement. I think I got a couple thou out of them before one blew from commuting on our beloved I-75 in FLA. Thought I blew a caliper piston seal since I had to rebuild everything on the bike that had seals. Thank GOD it was only a fork seal! So I bought lifetime seals that also fit CR125 honda dirtbikes from Dennis Kirk. And put a little less air in the tubes(air assist) with 15 W belray oil. Haven't ridden it much since. Dealing with FLA titling from out of state. More than enough documentation that I own it, but wasn't officially signed over to me because no title requirement for vehicles older than 15 yrs. from where I came from, Blah, blah... But I'm sure it's a solid replacement. Definitely looked like beefer seals. Thanks for all you share, bro!!
I wanna know how much oil you put in and did you clean out all of the old oil. My original problem came from using too much oil in my aftermarket sliders. Now I still don't know how much oil to use. I guess its a secret
Not sure. It was whatever the book required.
It’s a typical issue. Most of the after market stuff is crap. Cheap Korean knock-offs. There are some good brand names that I’ve had great product from however no less expensive than HD. Good video. Thanks for posting.
My dad always bought Clymer manuals when i was a kid. Nice Job!
Clymer's the way to go, I think. Thanks, Mike.
What size wrench are you using for the pinch clamp? It's quit aggravating to get to.
5/8" if I remember right off hand.
Ok, thank you. That's what I had on it, but it felt like it wasn't snug. Naturally, I didn't have a 16mm. I just wanted to double-check so I didn't round the head off. Thanks for the awesome video's!!!!!!
How’s your back holding up. Did your van beat you up on gas mileage going too and fro on your drive to Forgotten Angel’s trip ?.
It did - like, 8 mpg hauling the trailer and shovelhead. 🙄 Oh well . . .
Back doing much better. And what she said too.
👍🔧👍
😎🤙
👍
I always struggle with those allen heads. Nice trick man!
Me too... Then I got a vise.
@@SaddleTrampTV 😆
Were those James after market seals?
American Classics
Cut u a piece of PVC works great