Bus Compressor Battle - Warm Audio VS SSL VS Plug In | Gear Time

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  • Опубликовано: 11 дек 2024

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  • @TheStonehengeStudio
    @TheStonehengeStudio  3 года назад +1

    Wenn euch das Video gefallen hat und ihr noch mehr Battles und Vergleiche sehen wollt abonniert gerne unseren Kanal, weil ihr sonst die neuen Videos verpasst.

  • @SamSine
    @SamSine 4 года назад +18

    Overall, on my calibrated studio monitors, the low end of the SSL unit had more oomph. Warm Audio unit was a bit thinner, though as wide as the SSL. The plugin was sounding weird on guitars and full mix. It sounded like depth and width were lost compared to SSL and WA. Thanks for this great video guys!

    • @theebob2008
      @theebob2008 3 года назад

      No width in the plug-in. Weird! Even the Warm sounded better. That’s scary because I have a lot of mixes with that plug-in on the 2 bus

    • @blakematthews6374
      @blakematthews6374 3 года назад

      I’m not currently listening on my monitors, so I can’t comment on the lowend. But I can hear a shift in the mids on the warm vs the ssl, not in a better or worse. But I 100% agree on the lack of width with the plugin. I feel the warm is a great option for the price range.

    • @soniksource
      @soniksource Год назад

      plug-in lost detail in except for the guitar sample it did fine.

  • @pegtownmanproductions9106
    @pegtownmanproductions9106 Год назад +1

    The SSL pushes miss forward and has a tighter bottom end.& a touch more glue. The Warm sounds pretty damn good, ssl wins but let’s be clear the price difference in Canada is over $2K more for the SSL so it’s not even in the same league price wise and what the Warm does is fantastic. I don’t think you can beat the warm for that, it’s kind of in a class of its own.
    The plug-in loses all 3d compared to the outboard conps. Outboard sounds way better imo.
    Awesome video. Thanks.

  • @quantika72
    @quantika72 3 года назад +6

    Plugins are definitely essential tools to make flat mixes‼️🥱

  • @ImpedanceEurobeat
    @ImpedanceEurobeat 3 года назад +5

    Personal observations:
    WA is the widest sounding and colors the sound a tiny bit. SSL is definitely tighter and more sterile, than WA, but has narrower mids. The plugin is actually pretty underwhelming imho. Compared to hardware units it has the right compression envelope, but it significantly collapses the stereo field and outright sounds muddy - i would say it fails at its role as a stereo bus compressor. I wonder how "The Glue" by Cytomic would compare to the UAD plugin.
    The WA sounds very pleasing to me, to be honest way more fun than the actual SSL. That makes me really happy because i want to get it sometime in the future.

  • @MrRockntube
    @MrRockntube 2 месяца назад

    Thank you for the great video.
    Finally a professional review by people who know what they are doing.
    I think the warm audio sounds pretty good. a bit shy on the low end and a bit cleaner on the comperession.
    I read somewhere that it is not an exact clone of the SSL.
    The SSL sounded best and more like the real deal.
    I used one on a SSL G console. they sound very close.
    But for the money you can't go wrong with the warm audio.
    Maybe of few knobs tweaks and they will sound even close to each other.

  • @theebob2008
    @theebob2008 3 года назад +2

    They both sounded better than the plug-in! SSL came in top, but the Warm was pretty good! Now I’m thinking of picking up the Warm

  • @epik17
    @epik17 2 года назад

    Thanks for the English subtitles! Cheers from Mexico 🇲🇽

  • @jvonnjvonn4688
    @jvonnjvonn4688 4 года назад +3

    I like how all the other languages an everyone having a conversation where it look like we all understand

  • @LaFucinaStudioMix
    @LaFucinaStudioMix 4 года назад +5

    The warm audio sounds softer on the left channel, compared to the ssl, as it was s bass freq drop. Maybe it was a cabling issue or a AD calibration. The plugin sound good but not so large as the two units.

    • @TheStonehengeStudio
      @TheStonehengeStudio  4 года назад +1

      Hey La Fucina Music, thanks for your Comment! We used the same cables and channels and switched both devices after every take so both run through the same desk channels und interface channels. We double checked it, probobaly the desk does some things to that. But of course the plugin is nice, but i wouldn´t use it for a professional master in the master bus i think. Have a nice weekend and stay healthy!

    • @paramjitsingh1993
      @paramjitsingh1993 3 года назад

      I also feel the same

  • @VintiqueSound
    @VintiqueSound 4 года назад +5

    Great comparison! I think I like the warm audio on the guitars just a little better, as a preference of tone, it sounds a bit rounder overall, the SSL has more natural punch and clarity though. And the SSL really let the low body of the kick and snare through very well, and it really shines on the mixbus bringing clarity from lows to highs, the warm audio very good too. The UAD always sounded more narrow and like the my speakers had a thin blanket over it, as you say it doesn't sound bad, it gives you a great understanding and feel for what this compressor is supposed to do, but it doesn't compare.

  • @tshrdrums
    @tshrdrums 4 года назад +2

    Interesting comparison, anyone else think the the real differences were between the both hard pieces against the Plugin? I felt that the plugin was way less transparent... had to try on multiple speaker sources too...

  • @felipousismix
    @felipousismix 4 года назад +4

    For me the SSL had more mids "in your face" while the Warm was smoother in general. The UAD as a bit of deception here. For 699 U$D it's nor brainer/ Vielen Danke guys!

  • @vdatroxis
    @vdatroxis 4 года назад +1

    Sehr cool gemachter A-B(-C)-Vergleich, danke dafür! Auch optisch ansprechend dargestellt... :)

    • @TheStonehengeStudio
      @TheStonehengeStudio  4 года назад +1

      Hey vdatroxis, vielen Dank für dein Feedback, es freut uns total, dass dir das Video gefällt und motiviert für neue Videos. :)

  • @alexlechanteur3606
    @alexlechanteur3606 3 года назад +8

    The SSL is more detailed and clear, but the warm for the price is just wow. The plugin ... meh at best

  • @leonidaskopilos6959
    @leonidaskopilos6959 4 года назад

    Unglaublich wie die Stereobreite von der Hardware hier profitiert.
    Super super Video, vielen Dank. Habe den warm audio gerade bestellt.

    • @TheStonehengeStudio
      @TheStonehengeStudio  3 года назад +1

      Danke für dein Feedback, bist du zufrieden mit dem Warm in der Zwischenzeit?

    • @leonidaskopilos6959
      @leonidaskopilos6959 3 года назад

      @@TheStonehengeStudio Ja, sehr zufrieden. Auch manchmal nur um etwas Sättigung der Transformer in ein Signal zu printen

  • @mattg082
    @mattg082 4 года назад +1

    On the drum buds I preferred the SSL. But guitar and overall mix the warm is a little different but holds its own for the price! A little different, but at a fraction of the cost....of it hold up over time with no issues I’d pick it over the SSL on the money.

  • @senormadkermit
    @senormadkermit 3 года назад

    Vielen Dank für das tolle Video! Habe mir aufgrund dessen den Warm Audio gekauft und bin sehr zufrieden damit.

    • @TheStonehengeStudio
      @TheStonehengeStudio  3 года назад +1

      Danke für dein Feedback freut mich zu hören und ich wünsche viel Spaß mit den Tontechniker-Spielwaren.

  • @duppyoscar
    @duppyoscar 4 года назад +3

    Its such a small difference. SSL sounds less muddy, or brighter, tight.... hard to tell. But, for the price, im going with warm.

  • @AdrianosPapamarkou
    @AdrianosPapamarkou Год назад +1

    Wow❗ When you switch to plugin it is like... someone accidentally pressed the mono button in the monitor section. 😂😂😂

  • @DeeKeiMixes
    @DeeKeiMixes 4 года назад +4

    I'm listening on my ATCs and I can barely hear the difference. Crazy.
    Never in a million years did I think the economic marketplace for analog gear would become this good at this price.

    • @DeeKeiMixes
      @DeeKeiMixes 4 года назад +3

      To put my money where my mouth is, I just got the bus comp

    • @dirkchurlish4074
      @dirkchurlish4074 3 года назад +2

      @@DeeKeiMixes so many ssl bus plugins and so many hw clones. what's clear is that the hw clones defeat the plugins by and large and the real thing defeats the clones but by a slightly smaller margin. i got the chameleon myself, but now i'm not sure whether i really want to upgrade to an x-logic or not. so hard to choose between sound and value!

    • @domgirard4095
      @domgirard4095 3 года назад +1

      damn, i can hear the punch and nice pumping of the SSL and mushyness of the Warm audio on my iphone 6

    • @likeyouiam5996
      @likeyouiam5996 2 года назад

      so you have ATCs and you expected a HUGE difference between very similar compressors?

  • @retomode2865
    @retomode2865 3 года назад

    i did many testing with the original SSL and others , it's sometimes not possible to hear , but sometimes you here detailed things sound better with the original , but it's already very detailed , and you need very good monitors to hear !

  • @symph1744
    @symph1744 4 года назад

    Great review! Love the SSL hardware, I too sometimes use the plugin so its great to hear the difference!

  • @compoundaudio
    @compoundaudio 4 года назад +3

    ssl has a tighter midrange, warm audio stands up well, considering the price of the unit its amazing,

    • @dillonraley7711
      @dillonraley7711 4 года назад +3

      ssl - tighter, but narrower midrange imo

  • @domgirard4095
    @domgirard4095 3 года назад +1

    how did you use the plugin vs the hardware ?
    the plugins in and out of converters and brought back side by side on an analog mixer/console ?
    The Warm audio sounds mushy

  • @jerrylmusic
    @jerrylmusic 3 года назад

    Ihr seit sooooo cool 😎 ich habe mir den Warm Audio bestellt und bin gespannt. Ich werde diesen zusammen mit meinem SSL Fusion kombinieren und damit meine Masteringkette erstellen. Euer Review war sehr hilfreich und ich denke ich mache mit dem Warm Audio bestimmt nichts falsch. Viele liebe Grüße Jerryl

    • @TheStonehengeStudio
      @TheStonehengeStudio  3 года назад

      Hey Jerryl, danke dir für die netten Worte und dein Feedback! Wir sind sehr gespannt, was du von der Kiste hältst und wünsche dir viel Spaß damit.

  • @CaseyLewis
    @CaseyLewis 2 года назад +1

    Well, those are completely usable results all round, to be sure. In soloed drum bus compression, I liked the SSL best. In parallel drum compression, I liked the Warm best. In solo guitar bus, I liked the Warm best. In full mix compression, I liked the Plugin best for the Tom section, but the least for the rest of the track. I suspect that if you used TWO different instances of the plug for left and right, you might find a different result, because it sounded like there was some phase/crosstalk stuff going on in there to me. Also, I think that at least part of those preferences was based on the settings of the units. If you watch the meters, the Warm is a touch more aggressive on heavy transients in parts, so it has a tiny bit of an unfair advantage in parallel mode IMO. But honestly, I think perfectly usable and professional results could be achieved with any of these devices assuming a baseline of skill and perception. Given the price of the Warm, I think I will pick one up to parallel compress the output of my Burl B32, on which I submix drums.

  • @united100
    @united100 3 месяца назад

    UAD sounded terrible... compared to the WARM nad SSL , the compression was very uneven... I was shocked at how big the difference was,

  • @leepluck3776
    @leepluck3776 3 года назад +1

    Probably didn't have the transformer on the wa, that might make up the difference with ssl

  • @MixedByDotRob
    @MixedByDotRob 4 года назад +3

    Analogue rocks big time!

  • @MaPa60
    @MaPa60 4 года назад +2

    Ssl a little more balanced and open, warm a little more.. warm (in the mids), and surprised how poor the plugin performed. Maybe closer with two identical plugins in series? Anyway, Im getting the Warm :-)

  • @simplestickman5513
    @simplestickman5513 2 года назад

    great review!

  • @vladimirtrump4806
    @vladimirtrump4806 Год назад

    I assume analog gear was going out through mixer/console and VST stayed "in the box"? There's clearly difference 3D/2D in Hardware and Plugins.
    Can you tell me the path of audio signals in both cases?

  • @b.hornetiii.6771
    @b.hornetiii.6771 Год назад

    How is the background "noise" with warm audio, I heard that's it's pretty noisy?

  • @andrewracer1866
    @andrewracer1866 2 года назад +1

    I thought the lows on the SSL were very smooth and tight which allowed the guitars to surf just above the lows in a very musical way. Whereas, the Warm Audio had less of that definition. Other that, both the SSL and Warm audio had the same sparkle, just the SSL a little smoother and more defined. I thought the software sounded like a dog's ass during diaria. l believe the warm audio could be dialed in closer to the SSL with some EQ adjustments to get those mid-high-mids surfing above some smoother lows.

  • @jordanpene5279
    @jordanpene5279 Год назад +1

    I can hear even on my iphone that the hardware is better than the software lol

  • @carlosfernandoramirezsanto4417
    @carlosfernandoramirezsanto4417 4 года назад +3

    Don't know what you are saying, but nice comparison.

  • @trumpwatch9700
    @trumpwatch9700 4 года назад +1

    The SSL hardware is consistently cleaner, crisper (faster), and has a better signal to noise ratio and less distortion than the WA. I don't trust the SSL plugin because it sounds like the voltage output is dialed a hair lower on the SSL plugin. Using the same exact settings on a plugin as the hardware is not reliable -- at least as far as output is concerned. I think if they did a test that was sensitive to microvolts and put a sine wave through each device and checked the output voltage I'm certain it's a hair lower on the SSL plugin. You can't trust the button/know position on the output side to be perfectly the same without verifying voltage for exactness. It may also be that the SSL plugin is simply slower than the hardware due to the latency introduced in digital signal manipulation. Hard to tell without being there. I'll take the SSL any day. I found the warm audio to overcompress, has a less expansive virtual soundstage than the SSL. It' sounds ok but I'd never take it over the SSL having heard the difference on youtube. WA seems to have a slightly sterile sound to it. No objectionable but less less character. Like hiring an accountant to compress your sound. It's clean but it's missing some liveliness.

  • @producermind9030
    @producermind9030 3 года назад

    really cool shoot out

  • @youaintgottheanswerssway1594
    @youaintgottheanswerssway1594 3 года назад

    Great review! The ssl hands down is best

  • @PhilippBeesen
    @PhilippBeesen 4 года назад

    SSL X Rack Stereobus Compressor und SSL Mynx bekommt man beides ca für 2.5k€ . Gibt es da noch einen Unterschied zu der 19er Variante warum die noch einmal 1k€ mehr kostet ?

  • @gernotfrohlich6978
    @gernotfrohlich6978 4 года назад

    könnt ihr uns noch sagen bitte, ob ihr die transformer immer aktiviert hattet beim warm?... danke und glg

  • @carljohnson9096
    @carljohnson9096 4 года назад +1

    Love the WA for the price. 800 dollars here in sweden and we use it on buss auxes a lot for the open punchy sound it has. And agree plugin does fall short.

    • @TheStonehengeStudio
      @TheStonehengeStudio  4 года назад

      Hey Carl, thanks for your comment. Absolute! For that price it‘s a nobrainer. The Plugins is in this case really far beyond, shocking. Stay healthy ! Looking forward to hearing from you.

  • @duppyoscar
    @duppyoscar 4 года назад +2

    I don't think one is better than another. They are just different.

    • @IvoMusicOfficial
      @IvoMusicOfficial 2 года назад

      Good point! I bet , if they have done a blind test :)

  • @jaamabay3830
    @jaamabay3830 4 года назад

    Ihr solltet bei so Vergleichen immer noch dazu sagen, dass es nicht nur der Sound ist, sondern auch die Verarbeitung und damit Langlebigkeit. Grade da wird bei billiger Herstellung gespart ohne Ende. Funkt der SSL in 30 Jahren immer noch und du hast dir in der Zwischenzeit den Warm Audio fünfmal nachkaufen müssen, war der Warm halt kein gutes Geschäft.

    • @TheStonehengeStudio
      @TheStonehengeStudio  3 года назад

      Danke für den Input , ist ein guter Punkt. Werden wir in Zukunft berücksichtigen.

  • @ripdocholiday9650
    @ripdocholiday9650 4 года назад

    wa real smooth

  • @base_beatz7988
    @base_beatz7988 4 года назад

    Mir viel bei den Gitarren auf dass das Plugin die 3 Gitarren wie einzelnd in den Mix stellt wo die Hardware units das ganze wie zusammen zu einem Großen machen

    • @TheStonehengeStudio
      @TheStonehengeStudio  4 года назад

      Hey Base Production, das können wir nachvollziehen. Die Hardware ist halt schon nochmal ein anderer Film.

  • @EpicWinz
    @EpicWinz 4 года назад +1

    The resolution of the SSL is FAR superior. The Warm is OK too though

    • @base_beatz7988
      @base_beatz7988 4 года назад

      @@likeyouiam5996 When u listen to the Guitars, u hear more texture on the SSL.

  • @cryptonios
    @cryptonios 4 года назад +1

    are the transformers on the warm audio?

    • @TheStonehengeStudio
      @TheStonehengeStudio  4 года назад

      Hey Yannis, yes the Warm Audio has the „Engage Transformer“ Button.

    • @mechuniversal
      @mechuniversal 4 года назад

      @@TheStonehengeStudio I was wondering the same. Must be why the Warm is sounding thicker than the SSL to me. And on the content I have seen so far in this video I would actually choose the Warm of the SSL. I have seen other videos where I would choose the SSL.

  • @brettisstoked
    @brettisstoked 4 года назад

    Great video!!

  • @base_beatz7988
    @base_beatz7988 4 года назад

    Ne kleine Frage zum Wa Bus Comp: Wenn man die Transformer anschaltet wird das Signal in jedem Video lauter aber bei meinem nicht, war das bei euch auch so?

    • @TheStonehengeStudio
      @TheStonehengeStudio  4 года назад

      Jep, wird lauter aber wir haben das im Video meist ausgeglichen, indem wir den Output runter gedreht haben damit man eine bessere Vergleichbarkeit hat.

    • @base_beatz7988
      @base_beatz7988 4 года назад

      TheStonehengeStudio Dann ist meiner Kaputt? Weil bei mir wird nich lauter wenn ich die Transformer anschalte.

    • @TheStonehengeStudio
      @TheStonehengeStudio  4 года назад

      Schwierig zu beurteilen von der Ferne, ich würde empfehlen , dass du Warm Audio mal kontaktierst

    • @base_beatz7988
      @base_beatz7988 4 года назад

      TheStonehengeStudio Ich hab mir das Gerät austauschen lassen und bekomme heute das neue.

  • @derjabs
    @derjabs 4 года назад

    Machen denn die PlugIns im Studio überhaupt Sinn, wenn sie nur eine Idee dessen abbilden, was die Geräte tun? So ein Video PlugIn vs. Hardware fände ich mal interessant.

    • @TheStonehengeStudio
      @TheStonehengeStudio  4 года назад +1

      Hey, exakt dieses Video, in welchem wir über diese Thematik sprechen, wollen wir seit einigen Tagen Aufnehmen! Ich vermute, dass es Mittwoch online gehen wird.

    • @derjabs
      @derjabs 4 года назад

      TheStonehengeStudio ich bin gespannt!

    • @TheStonehengeStudio
      @TheStonehengeStudio  4 года назад +1

      Hey Jabs, das neue Video wo wir über die Thematik Plugin Vs Hardware sprechen ist jetzt auch online, hier der Link ruclips.net/video/JRjrv_sTvxo/видео.html

    • @derjabs
      @derjabs 4 года назад

      TheStonehengeStudio hab ich gesehen! 👍 Werd mal noch kommentieren, wie ich die Thematik aus meiner Homerecording-Sicht sehe.

    • @TheStonehengeStudio
      @TheStonehengeStudio  4 года назад +1

      Hey Jabs, deine Frage haben wir übrigens auch in unser neues Video Kommentare kommentiert mit rein genommen das online ist, kannst ja mal reinschauen.

  • @Damnastysux
    @Damnastysux 4 года назад

    Liegt das an mir, oder ist das alles mono?

    • @TheStonehengeStudio
      @TheStonehengeStudio  4 года назад

      Hey, jetzt hast du uns gerade aber geschickt :) wir haben gerade panisch das iPad ans Pult angeschlossen und überprüft. Ist in Stereo, achte mal auf die Toms, da hört man es am deutlichsten. Die Kisten sind aber auch bekannt dafür, dass sie das Stereobild einengen. Das polarisiert sehr. Dir noch einen schönen Sonntag, wir sind jetzt wach ;)

  • @shanelandstrom1597
    @shanelandstrom1597 4 года назад +1

    Wow the plugin didn't sound very good at all. For the money, the Warm sounds good, but if money is no object.....SSL. I have an SB4001. I wonder how it sounds compared to these.

  • @MELOPSMUSIC
    @MELOPSMUSIC 3 года назад

    sorry but i compare uad vs hw and the difference is not so obvious ! (compared with wav files)

  • @LosFicosMusic
    @LosFicosMusic 3 года назад

    The Stam Audio SA4000 is wya bette then Warm...

  • @gottreich
    @gottreich 4 года назад +1

    Für mich klingt das Plugin viel zu flach. Erst auf dem Mixbus kommt ein Anschwung von Dichte in den Mix - ich denke das Plugin wurde darauf ausgelegt, auf dem Master verwendet zu werden. Also klingt es auf einzelnen Kanälen schwach. Mal wieder ein Beweis das kein Algorithmus dieser Welt an die Hardware rankommt.

    • @TheStonehengeStudio
      @TheStonehengeStudio  4 года назад

      Hey Miro, absolut, sehen wir genauso. Wir haben dazu ein schönes Video vor ein paar Wochen hier auf dem Kanal gemacht, Plugin VS Hardware, kannst ja mal reinschauen 🤘🏻

  • @fusixstudio
    @fusixstudio 4 года назад +2

    Warm Audio sounds really good and punchy

  • @thesearethesuns
    @thesearethesuns Год назад

    SSL just makes the record…

  • @areyoujelton
    @areyoujelton 2 года назад

    The SSL hands down sounds better. I own the warm audio and it’s good but it’s not an SSL.

  • @ciromoreau2580
    @ciromoreau2580 2 года назад

    Plugin sounds lifeless, like the parameters are not the same of hardware. But If it's all ok and matched ... it's a toy compared to both compressors.

  • @bontempo1271
    @bontempo1271 2 года назад

    Jesus christ plugins suck. SSL was a league above them all on the mixbus which is where i'd use it. And that is the XLogic rack version ? I'd happily use that.

  • @edidobroschanski5929
    @edidobroschanski5929 2 года назад

    definitiv ssl , alleine nur wegen dem snare klang haben wollen. da lass ich vom warm audio die finger weg

  • @MrRolan79
    @MrRolan79 4 года назад

    SSL buss compressor better more clean and paunch sound

  • @RS-pp7ng
    @RS-pp7ng 2 года назад

    UAD was by far the 'worst' (still great though).

  • @MrRolan79
    @MrRolan79 4 года назад

    SSL buss compressor better more cleaner and punchy sound

  • @jinxypoes1
    @jinxypoes1 4 года назад

    i bought the warm audio,for that price superdeal

  • @李丹阳-v4q
    @李丹阳-v4q 4 года назад +1

    i can‘t tell the difference:)

  • @FrancisJoa
    @FrancisJoa 4 года назад

    Der Warm klang für mich dünner (weniger bottom end) als der SSL G bus Comp. Sogar das Plugin fand ich besser als den Warm.

    • @base_beatz7988
      @base_beatz7988 4 года назад +1

      Also das Plugin war mit Abstand so schlecht, flach und langweilig, wohingegen beide Hardwaregeräte Bass und Punch hatten und dem Sound Dimension gegeben habe.

  • @gernotfrohlich6978
    @gernotfrohlich6978 4 года назад

    könnt ihr uns noch sagen bitte, ob ihr die transformer immer aktiviert hattet beim warm?... danke und glg