The issue with the MT-82 generally lies in the shift linkage (not being especially robust/rigid) and the underlying bracketing. The MT-82 has the shifter mounted directly to the chassis via the transmission tunnel. Under hard acceleration/rpm and load, the engine and transmission twist under the torque of the engine (this is normal to an extent on every car), however most manual transmissions (for high powered cars) mount the shifter and linkage directly to the transmission, not the chassis like the mustang's design. This means the transmission moves and twists, but the shifter and linkage doesn’t move with it since it’s bolted to the chassis directly. This leads to an inconsistent shifter feel, grinding, high rpm lockout, and all those other things you hear about in the forums. Add the scenario of driver at a drag strip trying to shift aggressively and quickly to a shifter design that doesn’t like to be hurried and you have a recipe for complaints and issues. It's a shame Ford dont put the Tremec into the standard GT's
Yah thanks for the info. I’ve heard since that the short throw kits fix the issue the cars end up being much better. Also I’ve heard they the clutch doesn’t pair nice with the trans
@@NavsGarage yea it sucks. I was lookin to trade in my 2015 Brz, and get a newer GT as a daily driver. But im not keen to spend an extra $10-15k just to get the Mach1 for the tremec. damn shame, since the Stang is a nice sportscar, and still offered with the 6speed.
@@roberto7288 i havnt looked at the costs. Depends if you're willing to spend the extra money to get the mach1 or not. At least with the mach, you get an exclusive mustang that has higher resale value than a GT with swapped t56. its up to you.
Yup track days sure are fun once you tune the car perfectly. MT-82 is faulty, Tremec is a great option to swap the transmission for. It can be pricey but it's totally worth it and way smoother.
That’s why you get a gt350, gt 500, or a Mach 1. My 2016 Camaro was a nightmare when it came to all the electrical issues. Since getting the Mach 1 I will never go back to Chevy.
@Mral236d 2010 to 2013 Camaros are pretty much indestructible. Sure they depreciate but they're very reliable. I've had both cars the only issues I've had with both has been electrical issues and the swap of the Mustang transmission to the 3160 Tremec into the S550. The newer camaro does suffer from cylinder issues. I'd avoid certain models if you're thinking of buying it.
I have a 3rd gen 2019 mustang GT with the mt82 manual transmission my transmission has been great however I don't race my car nor do I beat on it I do enjoy spirited driving every now and again
You will never know until you test it at full throttle and fast shifts..lm sure most MT 82'S out there will shift great, while lets say, conservative driving.
Thanks for the info regarding your experience. I'm tossing up whether to go with the manual on a low milage 22 GT. I'm in Australia & upgrade parts aren't cheap in this part of the world. Cheers😊
There is but one way to enhance the enjoyment of your Mustang and preserve its resale value - Tremec. In 2024, that means you buy a Dark Horse. Why Ford stuck with the Gertreg for the 24 GT’s remains a mystery. It’s almost like Ford is courting more litigation. They could at least have offered the Tremec as an option.
The 3160 ain't even that good it don't hold any more power than an mt82. It might shift a little better stock for stock but it certainly isn't a stronger transmission. The clutch and shifter are the main issues with the mt82 this shit has been beat to death over a decade now.
You knowing “plenty” of owners isn’t the larger population. Mustang mt82 has issues. Look at the lawsuit. There’s a shop that literally runs on rebuilding them. Now those 800whp cars might be stock but things like short throw a different clutch and other things can fix the problems.
The main issue is the clutch and shifter. Once those are upgraded with good fluid it's solid. I've seen many of them live while boosted with a good clutch and shifter.
I went from a gen 1 mt82 to 6r80. 7700rpm and mt82 don't mix. I Hated the mt82. So many races where I was winning the 2-3 or 3-4 Shift issues. Now the 6r80 shifts every time 7700 rpm. Faster then I could ever do.
It isn't the Trans it's the clutch bro this shit has been beat to death over a decade and people STILL think it's the Trans lol. It's a shame you had to give up driving fun because you didn't know how to set your car up. Manual is 100x more fun and 100x more impressive when someone goes quick with a manual. An auto is just another quick auto woopty do.
@@rynev3392 Basically Ford claims I was speed shifting and it's normal for the tranny to grind. However, my car only had 3k miles so I went back to the dealer and demanded they fix the car or let me exchange it for an automatic. I will take delivery of a blk 2024 gt as soon as it arrives at the dealer in a few days. Here's my yelp review. Update: I've been in contact with Ron Jones and I hope to update the review and increase the rating. Below is a video of it happening to me again. ruclips.net/user/shorts10aXw… I recently was the proud purchaser of a 2023 Ford Mustang GT. In the process, I had paid a VERY LARGE amount of money as a down payment. However, after the break in period of my new car, I was alarmed that when driving a bit more spirited, it will unexpectedly lock me out of third gear or grind real bad. It will do this going from 2nd to 3rd gear at 4-5k RPM while getting on the freeway. I took the car in for it's first oil change and described how the issue manifests itself. At first the techs could not duplicate it, because they tried at 7K RPM. I drove to the dealership and showed them a single time at about 4.5K RPM. They said they'd investigate further but they then waited a few days to tell me it's normal for your car to not go into gear and accused me of "speed shifting" Because Ford does not acknowledge the MT-82 issues, the dealer then charged me $255.00 dollars. Anyone can google search"MT-82 problems", and when doing so the first result that comes up illustrates my problem from a company called CJ Pony Parts. They could have at least washed my car but returned it filthy The impression I'm left with is that it is a very bad place to buy/service a car. Good Luck on yours! Cheers
Mach 1 is too expensive, can't justify the Shelby and Tremec upgrades, proceeds to advise spending thousands on upgrades. If you start with a turd, and roll it in glitter, it will be a turd covered in glitter. Buy the better platform from the start!
@@NavsGarage Maybe, but you still won't have the Tremec, still wont have the front and rear GT350 subframe, The GT500 rear suspension geometry and all of the the uprated cooling. Most of all the resale. You would make back the difference when you move the car on- no one want's to pay a premium for a clapped out garage modded GT. I get mods- trust me, done it to death personally. But what's the point of spending tens of thousands on mods that loose you money instead of spending the tens of thousands on the better car that holds it value?
There is NOTHING special about a newer Mach 1 its a gt in a dress with hand me down gt350 parts. It's overpriced and overrated. Stop acting like it's some exotic mustang or something like it's so much different than a regular gt lol.
@@techforge-Natethe tremec in the Mach isn't even all that it's overrated too people think it's a t56 magnum or a tr6060 the 3160 ain't got shit on those transmissions. It's known to not be any stronger than an mt82.
You should ne able to drive it pretty hard, it is a sportscar.I have had mustangs for quite a long time and i won't buy an mt82 eventhough i like shifting. I will get a 10r80 auto more than likely but would prefer to shift, just don't want the headache!.
Dude it's so easy all you gotta do is get a solid clutch and a good shifter and change the fluid to good fluids and done. This is the kind of stuff you'd need with any manual really. That's where the issues lie. Stop being scared off by idiots online bitching about their mt82 "locking them out" that is the clutch doing that and the garbage shifter setup don't help either. This has been well known common knowledge for almost 15 years now and people still don't get it and they still blame all this on the Trans and act like the mt82 is a lost cause. This info is readily available and has been for a LONG time. Instead people like you just listen to all the idiots complaining about their mt82 locking them out or having issues then you want to avoid a manual because of it.
Does this 6 speed manual transmission use a DUAL CLUTCH TRANSMISSION( DCT) , Or Single clutch only ? Is it like Single clutch but one input shaft and 2 output shaft (Transmission box) ?
it is not the GT it is your lousy driving & shifting. I get it on and occasionally race. AMG backroads and blew away the BM. I let the pcu kick me out of redline though and 10 miles out a trail of oil appear in the rearview mirror and up a grade I pulled over. cracked the block. bought a 2019 Aluminator 5.0L engine 12:1 n/a compression mounted up to Calimer mt-82d stage 2 mgw spec 2 shifter mantic 9000 clutch DSS drive live g force half shafts boobma trans mount steeda differential brace fhp differential roush cold induction mangnaflow competention three inch exhaust vmp tune dw- 400 fuel pump cold case radiator mishimoto radiator reserve fhp front strut brace bmr rear strut brace bmr and steeda completed suspension mods pedders coil overs w external canisters bmr k brace & stop the hop rear braces & sway bars autosport roll cage stiffings up the chassis sve rims 10ft 11r MCH pilot sport Calimer transmission mt-82d s-2 is cyro treated & micro polish with carbon synchro rings bullet forks & forged gears with the Mantic 9000 she rock solid. Turn off the trac control watch engine masters. Still it is the driver that needs to know how to downshift or upshift properly.
So you modded your trans. Well yah you beefed it up. It wasn’t my “bad driving” it’s a well known common mustang issue that they used the wrong clutch on a mediocre transmission.
The Getrag MT 82 sucks big time. Ruins the whole car. Impossible to shift first to second at high rpm then likes to grind going into second. Just sucks, did l say it sucks.
It's the clutch dude the clutch the clutch the clutch!!!! How do people still not know this in 2024 the mt82 been around since 2011 this is well known info. The garbage shifter doesn't help they both need to be fixed. If you wanna snatch gears fast at high rpm that's what you need. It IS NOT the Trans.
It can be driven hard just fine. It needs a better clutch and shifter. This has been well known forever and people still don't get it lol. That is what causes the shifting issues otherwise they're pretty damn stout.
People are in love with the sleek lines, redesigned interior, the tough image, and thrill of a V8 powered rocket. Subsequently, they make all sorts of excuses for having been duped into buying an inferior product. These cars are lemons!!!!There’s a class action lawsuit currently pending regarding the 10R80 transmission, as well as a lawsuit where Ford has already been held responsible for the MT82 issues as well!! People are unloading these cars for substantially less than retail on the secondary market. Anyone considering purchasing one of these cars should look elsewhere!
Yeah no. These cars are selling for $20k+ everywhere that you can find them, with under 100k miles. Just bought one for $22,600 with 61k miles on it, which was under market value. Premium editions are even more expensive. These cars are highly sought after.
The issue with the MT-82 generally lies in the shift linkage (not being especially robust/rigid) and the underlying bracketing. The MT-82 has the shifter mounted directly to the chassis via the transmission tunnel. Under hard acceleration/rpm and load, the engine and transmission twist under the torque of the engine (this is normal to an extent on every car), however most manual transmissions (for high powered cars) mount the shifter and linkage directly to the transmission, not the chassis like the mustang's design. This means the transmission moves and twists, but the shifter and linkage doesn’t move with it since it’s bolted to the chassis directly.
This leads to an inconsistent shifter feel, grinding, high rpm lockout, and all those other things you hear about in the forums. Add the scenario of driver at a drag strip trying to shift aggressively and quickly to a shifter design that doesn’t like to be hurried and you have a recipe for complaints and issues.
It's a shame Ford dont put the Tremec into the standard GT's
Yah thanks for the info. I’ve heard since that the short throw kits fix the issue the cars end up being much better. Also I’ve heard they the clutch doesn’t pair nice with the trans
@@NavsGarage yea it sucks. I was lookin to trade in my 2015 Brz, and get a newer GT as a daily driver. But im not keen to spend an extra $10-15k just to get the Mach1 for the tremec. damn shame, since the Stang is a nice sportscar, and still offered with the 6speed.
@@eyecontrol4900In your opinion, is it better to get a Mach 1 or t56 swap a gt?
@@roberto7288 i havnt looked at the costs. Depends if you're willing to spend the extra money to get the mach1 or not. At least with the mach, you get an exclusive mustang that has higher resale value than a GT with swapped t56. its up to you.
@eyecontrol4900 yeah the pricing doesn't make sense. It'd be cheaper to buy the base model and spend 4k on a tremec thereafter
It’s sad to see yours go . But NO ONE in the world would buy a mustang and not drive it hard… That’s the whole point of a mustang 😂.
Yup track days sure are fun once you tune the car perfectly. MT-82 is faulty, Tremec is a great option to swap the transmission for. It can be pricey but it's totally worth it and way smoother.
This is the reason I'd have a camaro any day. Even though I'd love a mustang, the transmission problema are unacceptable
That’s true. There just something about the mustang
That’s why you get a gt350, gt 500, or a Mach 1. My 2016 Camaro was a nightmare when it came to all the electrical issues. Since getting the Mach 1 I will never go back to Chevy.
@@Mral236d i just dont know why chevy cant get the electronics right in their vehicles. What were your issues ?
@Mral236d 2010 to 2013 Camaros are pretty much indestructible. Sure they depreciate but they're very reliable. I've had both cars the only issues I've had with both has been electrical issues and the swap of the Mustang transmission to the 3160 Tremec into the S550.
The newer camaro does suffer from cylinder issues. I'd avoid certain models if you're thinking of buying it.
I have a 3rd gen 2019 mustang GT with the mt82 manual transmission my transmission has been great however I don't race my car nor do I beat on it I do enjoy spirited driving every now and again
You will never know until you test it at full throttle and fast shifts..lm sure most MT 82'S out there will shift great, while lets say, conservative driving.
Thanks for the info regarding your experience. I'm tossing up whether to go with the manual on a low milage 22 GT. I'm in Australia & upgrade parts aren't cheap in this part of the world.
Cheers😊
If you want to race, you buy race parts. Stock Mustang is not a race car, it is a drive to work car for mass market.
Yooo brotha been watching you since 1k subs congrats!!
There is but one way to enhance the enjoyment of your Mustang and preserve its resale value - Tremec. In 2024, that means you buy a Dark Horse. Why Ford stuck with the Gertreg for the 24 GT’s remains a mystery. It’s almost like Ford is courting more litigation. They could at least have offered the Tremec as an option.
The 3160 ain't even that good it don't hold any more power than an mt82. It might shift a little better stock for stock but it certainly isn't a stronger transmission. The clutch and shifter are the main issues with the mt82 this shit has been beat to death over a decade now.
I know plenty of guys with boosted 800whp on the mt-82 no problems at all. Learn how to shift.
You knowing “plenty” of owners isn’t the larger population. Mustang mt82 has issues. Look at the lawsuit. There’s a shop that literally runs on rebuilding them. Now those 800whp cars might be stock but things like short throw a different clutch and other things can fix the problems.
@@NavsGarage good respnce to the "plenty of guys".
The main issue is the clutch and shifter. Once those are upgraded with good fluid it's solid. I've seen many of them live while boosted with a good clutch and shifter.
I went from a gen 1 mt82 to 6r80. 7700rpm and mt82 don't mix. I Hated the mt82. So many races where I was winning the 2-3 or 3-4 Shift issues. Now the 6r80 shifts every time 7700 rpm. Faster then I could ever do.
Yah mine has horrible rev hang to I can’t shift fast. Had a couple lockout but not super bad
It isn't the Trans it's the clutch bro this shit has been beat to death over a decade and people STILL think it's the Trans lol. It's a shame you had to give up driving fun because you didn't know how to set your car up. Manual is 100x more fun and 100x more impressive when someone goes quick with a manual. An auto is just another quick auto woopty do.
I've got less than 5k miles and frequently get locked out of third gear. It's at the dealer now.
I’m having the same issue with just 7500 miles, what did you you find out from the dealership?
@@rynev3392 Basically Ford claims I was speed shifting and it's normal for the tranny to grind. However, my car only had 3k miles so I went back to the dealer and demanded
they fix the car or let me exchange it for an automatic. I will take delivery of a blk 2024 gt as soon as it arrives at the dealer in a few days. Here's my yelp review.
Update: I've been in contact with Ron Jones and I hope to update the review and increase the rating.
Below is a video of it happening to me again.
ruclips.net/user/shorts10aXw…
I recently was the proud purchaser of a 2023 Ford Mustang GT. In the process, I had paid a VERY LARGE amount of money as a down payment. However, after the break in period of my new car, I was alarmed that when driving a bit more spirited, it will unexpectedly lock me out of third gear or grind real bad.
It will do this going from 2nd to 3rd gear at 4-5k RPM while getting on the freeway. I took the car in for it's first oil change and described how the issue manifests itself.
At first the techs could not duplicate it, because they tried at 7K RPM. I drove to the dealership and showed them a single time at about 4.5K RPM. They said they'd investigate further but they then waited a few days to tell me it's normal for your car to not go into gear and accused me of "speed shifting" Because Ford does not acknowledge the MT-82 issues, the dealer then charged me $255.00 dollars. Anyone can google search"MT-82 problems", and when doing so the first result that comes up illustrates my problem from a company called CJ Pony Parts.
They could have at least washed my car but returned it filthy
The impression I'm left with is that it is a very bad place to buy/service a car.
Good Luck on yours!
Cheers
Mantic clutch/mgw shifter/stainless steel clutch line no problems
This. Well known for over a decade and people STILL don't get it lol.
Mach 1 is too expensive, can't justify the Shelby and Tremec upgrades, proceeds to advise spending thousands on upgrades.
If you start with a turd, and roll it in glitter, it will be a turd covered in glitter. Buy the better platform from the start!
after you spend a couple thousand you'll still be 15k less than a mach 1 and have a built trans
@@NavsGarage Maybe, but you still won't have the Tremec, still wont have the front and rear GT350 subframe, The GT500 rear suspension geometry and all of the the uprated cooling. Most of all the resale. You would make back the difference when you move the car on- no one want's to pay a premium for a clapped out garage modded GT. I get mods- trust me, done it to death personally. But what's the point of spending tens of thousands on mods that loose you money instead of spending the tens of thousands on the better car that holds it value?
There is NOTHING special about a newer Mach 1 its a gt in a dress with hand me down gt350 parts. It's overpriced and overrated. Stop acting like it's some exotic mustang or something like it's so much different than a regular gt lol.
@@techforge-Natethe tremec in the Mach isn't even all that it's overrated too people think it's a t56 magnum or a tr6060 the 3160 ain't got shit on those transmissions. It's known to not be any stronger than an mt82.
You should ne able to drive it pretty hard, it is a sportscar.I have had mustangs for quite a long time and i won't buy an mt82 eventhough i like shifting. I will get a 10r80 auto more than likely but would prefer to shift, just don't want the headache!.
Dude it's so easy all you gotta do is get a solid clutch and a good shifter and change the fluid to good fluids and done. This is the kind of stuff you'd need with any manual really. That's where the issues lie. Stop being scared off by idiots online bitching about their mt82 "locking them out" that is the clutch doing that and the garbage shifter setup don't help either. This has been well known common knowledge for almost 15 years now and people still don't get it and they still blame all this on the Trans and act like the mt82 is a lost cause. This info is readily available and has been for a LONG time. Instead people like you just listen to all the idiots complaining about their mt82 locking them out or having issues then you want to avoid a manual because of it.
Does this 6 speed manual transmission use a DUAL CLUTCH TRANSMISSION( DCT) , Or Single clutch only ? Is it like Single clutch but one input shaft and 2 output shaft (Transmission box) ?
Dcts aren’t manuals
@@NavsGarage I need your Gamaliel address, Sir.
@@dipayanchakraborty4751 Gmail? Send me a Dm on instagram thats easiest if you have a question I could help with
@@NavsGarage Ok, Sir.
it is not the GT it is your lousy driving & shifting. I get it on and occasionally race. AMG backroads and blew away the BM. I let the pcu kick me out of redline though and 10 miles out a trail of oil appear in the rearview mirror and up a grade I pulled over. cracked the block. bought a 2019 Aluminator 5.0L engine 12:1
n/a compression mounted up to Calimer mt-82d stage 2
mgw spec 2 shifter mantic 9000 clutch DSS drive live g force half shafts boobma trans mount steeda differential brace fhp differential roush cold induction mangnaflow competention three inch exhaust vmp tune dw- 400 fuel pump cold case radiator mishimoto radiator reserve fhp front strut brace bmr rear strut brace bmr and steeda completed suspension mods pedders coil overs w external canisters bmr k brace & stop the hop rear braces & sway bars autosport roll cage stiffings up the chassis sve rims 10ft 11r MCH pilot sport
Calimer transmission mt-82d s-2 is cyro treated & micro polish with carbon synchro rings bullet forks & forged gears with the Mantic 9000
she rock solid. Turn off the trac control watch engine masters. Still it is the driver that needs to know how to downshift or upshift properly.
So you modded your trans. Well yah you beefed it up. It wasn’t my “bad driving” it’s a well known common mustang issue that they used the wrong clutch on a mediocre transmission.
Boys you scared me off, y wanted to get one herevin Europe😢
Not Driving too hard and a mustang do not go together
I just got a 2018 gt
I'm in the market for one right now. How much did you pay? / What was the millage??
@@springsteen-games5134I bought a 2020 mustang gt for 29,000 19,000 miles
The Getrag MT 82 sucks big time. Ruins the whole car. Impossible to shift first to second at high rpm then likes to grind going into second. Just sucks, did l say it sucks.
Something I’ve discovered is that yes the trans is bad. But the 1-2 shift is also bad because the clutch sucks
It's the clutch dude the clutch the clutch the clutch!!!! How do people still not know this in 2024 the mt82 been around since 2011 this is well known info. The garbage shifter doesn't help they both need to be fixed. If you wanna snatch gears fast at high rpm that's what you need. It IS NOT the Trans.
@@NavsGaragethe Trans isn't bad at all its almost entirely the blame of the oem clutch the shifter setup also hurts.
@@NavsGarage agree
@@midnight347 your right it’s probably 80% clutch 20% crappy linkage.
Got to give to ford. Creat a spprt car that can't be driven hard.
It can be driven hard just fine. It needs a better clutch and shifter. This has been well known forever and people still don't get it lol. That is what causes the shifting issues otherwise they're pretty damn stout.
People are in love with the sleek lines, redesigned interior, the tough image, and thrill of a V8 powered rocket. Subsequently, they make all sorts of excuses for having been duped into buying an inferior product. These cars are lemons!!!!There’s a class action lawsuit currently pending regarding the 10R80 transmission, as well as a lawsuit where Ford has already been held responsible for the MT82 issues as well!!
People are unloading these cars for substantially less than retail on the secondary market. Anyone considering purchasing one of these cars should look elsewhere!
Yeah no. These cars are selling for $20k+ everywhere that you can find them, with under 100k miles. Just bought one for $22,600 with 61k miles on it, which was under market value. Premium editions are even more expensive. These cars are highly sought after.
@@Toutvidshe's just a clueless hater lol
Moral of the story is if you want to do race car things don't buy a rental car 🙃
Terrible review. Too long, Rambling and no details
Terrible comment too