Madness. Pope has proven over a LONG period of time that he lacks the proper mentality needed to bat at 3. He's just not a number 3. If he does play, it should be at 6 where he's far more comfortable. Woakes is on the way out. What is he now? 33? 34? His pace is in decline (and it was never particularly fast to begin with). Time to give the younger bowlers a chance. Ousting Gus Atkinson is the epitome of overcomplicating the situation, one that doesn't in any way, shape or form need complicating. He's done very well as a bowler, and shown that he can bat too. Moreover, he's most likely going to get even better as he gains further experience. So he needs to be retained. The logical thing to do is have Carse, Atkinson and one of either Wood/Archer - along with the spinner. Smith will obviously have to come back in, and I would wager that Bethell has done enough AND shown enough to replace either Crawley or Pope. Thank God Harmison isn't a selector.
The problem is there's no chance they'll drop Pope or Crawley. You can't put Bethell in to open anyway. But Duckett and Crawley opening is working well as far as I'm concerned. Personally I can't see how they can put Pope back to no.3 though. He's shown so far in NZ that batting at 6 might work for him. So does he keep the gloves and bat at 6 and you bring Jamie Smith in at 3 as a specialist batsman? In which case you drop Bethell.
Don't even think wood will last more than 2 tests a series, he is also 34. I think the young X factor of Josh Hull is needed with Stone and Potts as back up.
Forget Archer for Test match cricket…can we really see him bowling 15-20 overs in a day? Archer should play for Sussex in the coming series to prove his fitness to bowl in Tests. If he does that, then he would be an asset in Australia. Woakes bowling at 125kph is not going to cut it….big fan of his, but time to move on. I respect the view of Harmison and always Jerson to hear what he has to say, but on this occasion, I think he has got it wrong.
@ - we are talking about fitness and conditioning, if he can bowl long spells in County cricket, then he should be considered for Australia…not the India series - perhaps the final Test would be a good move if he himself is serious about playing Test cricket. A fit and firing Archer is what we want and need and at his best he is a cert’ for Australia. This has nothing to do with proving his quality, this is purely to do with his condition and fitness to bowl for longer spells if required.
Brett Lee took 160 test wickets after the age of 29. Archer is 29. He still has plenty of time and can work his way back to test cricket. Injuries happen, people recover. He’s back to bowling 90 in internationals so cricket
Gus is a world class number 8 and Carsen is a number 7 batting at 9. Archer has missed the party. Wood plays if he's fit at 10. Our weakness is Crawley and Spin.
He isn't, it's not even close. He's more reliable and will probably play more games and hopefully have a great career, but Archer fully firing clearly a lot better.
@@robertmason6366 Well let's face it the CC administrators can be blamed for that, when Somerset produced a pitch similar to those in India they were fined and docked points from their table. If they do things like that then how are batsmen supposed to learn how to play spin????
I think it depends on how fit Stokes is. If Stokes can be an effective 4th seamer, then you have to play Archer - because Archer is incredible, but cannot be used as a 'workhorse'. If Stokes can't take some of the burden without risk of injury to himself, then that exposes Archer to a heavy workload - the very thing that ruined him in the first place. Having said that, if Bashir can develop just a little bit more, he has the potential to shut one end down, runwise, for hours on end.
Worth a look at keeping bethell at 3 smith back in at 8 and play 3 fast bowlers, Bashir offers very little especially in English conditions, Root and Bethell part time spin does the job.
Smith at 8, you are having a laugh..... Smith is far superior to Bethell (at this moment in time) and is also far superior to Pope, Stokes and Crawley.... Perhaps only Root & Brook have a better chance of scoring consistent runs.
Archer Archer Archer he hasn't bowled in a first class match for FOUR years Wood has more pace and Atkinson can bat. Crawley needs a proper innings 10 and 15 and holing out on the boundary is not good enough he's meant to be an opener.
@@robertmason6366 It's incredible that a man has played over fifty Tests now and is barely averaging thirty, yet he appears virtually undroppable by the management. We all know that he's going to produce the occasional brilliant 80 but that's not enough.
Crawley's got a rich daddy who's best mates with Rob Key and is part of the golfing group so he's undroppable sadly. Only reason he's averaging 30 now is because of the fluke performances in the ashes last year and in India. If not for that he'd still be in the 20's. He has to go.
Archer and england would be better served with focusing him on white ball. Englands bowlers for the India series nay be Carse, Atkinson, Wood/Stone, Bashir and stokes as the change bowler
Wood and Archer should rotate for the same spot. They should never play two matches back to back. Having four seamers when two are Stokes and one of these is an injury crisis waiting to happen. Woakes is surplus to requirements now that Carse and Atkinson have shown they can bat #8, certainly for Australia. Carse and Atkinson, too, could rotate for the same spot. I feel sorry for Sam Cook - an incredible first class record, but doesn't meet the attributes of an overseas Test bowler. Rob Key likened him to Vernon Philander, and he did alright everywhere!
The problem with Sam Cook is not his lack of ability but the fact that you can only have ONE of his type in a test bowling attack, particularly overseas. Philander did so well everywhere because he was supported by other bowlers who were quick to express pace or very tall with a high action that could generate steep bounce. Anderson had an excellent Ashes tour in 2010-11 because of the support of Finn, Tremlett and Bresnan. In 2017-18 Anderson's supporting bowlers were Woakes, C Overton and Curran (all 80mph line and lengthers) the only different bowler was Broad and he was off form and had a bad series.
@AlunThomas-mp5qo I agree, and currently, Woakes holds that spot. I still think Jimmy was good for a few more years but that ship has sailed. When Woakes retires, Cook might have a shot.
@@colinmorrison5119 Yes and Woakes will hold that spot for the next couple of years. After all he did have a long wait to make that spot his own and he did try and change his game, around 2016 he quickened his pace up to 85-86mph and was successful for a year or so but for some reason then reverted back to 80mph.
Absolutely bonkers decision ! Picking a 36 year old Woakes ahead of Gus who will actually board the plane to Aus ! Atkinson has done everything asked of him in the first 11 tests, including getting a hat trick and a ton !
3:20 I think Jofra Archer is living off a reputation he got when he was the only genuine express pace fast bowling option for England’s future and got a lot of hype. I think that “X factor” Is a bit of an enigma at this point. The idea that he just comes back into the side ahead of the likes of Atkinson or Carse is lazy. He is injury-prone and won’t last a full tour. He hasn’t got a great average (31.04) with only 42 wickets in 19 tests). Atkinson has more wickets (48) in fewer tests (10) with a better average (22.29). Carse already has 25 wickets in 4 tests at an average of 16 (albeit he won’t keep that up). It feels like lazy reporting to just keep saying Archer is a cut above the rest. Wood and Archer are rotational pieces for wickets that suit them. Both are injury-prone and don’t have the same average as Atkinson or Carse have started their careers with. There is a squad of pace bowlers there: Stone, Tongue, Potts, Archer, Woods, Carse, Atkinson. But Archer and Woods aren’t Broad and Anderson.
Fitness is definitely the major factor - it's great we now have strength in "roles" - speed merchants, height and bounce, swing bowlers, spinners, all-rounders, etc. But fitness will dictate who plays. Woakes too slow with kookaburra (but adds batting depth) to travel to Australia as is Potts (who is consistent and a workhorse) but lacks speed unless he can find an extra 2-5 miles an hour he will be on the bench. But then again, if everyone else is injured .....
Not sure what Jack Leach has done to fall out of favour? Much better than Bashir in Pakistan (better batter and better fielder as well); Bashir isn't even first choice for Somerset.
I’d drop Pope for Smith. I’d keep Gus. Depending on fitness and form I’d rotate Wood and Carse. So no Archer for me. Crawley Duckett Bethell Root Brook Smith/Stokes Stokes/Smith Woakes Atkinson Carse/Wood Bashir
If Wood is fit he should play...just has the X-factor of extreme pace. I love Jofra but i dont think he can still generate 150km+ is barely playing red ball cricket anyway Woakes is a good bowler in England but India and Australia wouldnt fear him. Think picking Atkinson, Carse and Wood/Archer the only issue is there isnt really a new ball pairing
If archer can prove his test match cricket fitness, and if he actually wants to play test cricket, he has to be involved against india and then can you imagine him on australian pitches next winter?
Image Atkinson,Carse and Potts at 8,9,10? Wow thats a long tail. Imagine if Mo was still playing at 11. Harmy has lost the plot thinking crawley is going to impress in Australia. His poor defence will be expose against one of the best seam attacks in the modern era.
Wow, don’t be like clown Bailey for us in Oz & select players on reputation, select on performance, domestically & internationally. Gus is the future, if the Archer, Wood, etc can’t maintain consistent cricket, but Gus can & he delivers then keep playing him! If you don’t I’m happy to have him back at Surrey, help us win another title! Pope should remodel his game on Mr Cricket Hussey, that role changed the game upset so many teams rhythms. Again if not am more than happy to take Pope back to the Oval for the County championship.
Surely Atkinson plays in Australia - may be rest him for India. Jofra unfortunately is made of glass. That leaves Wood and Woakes - they're getting on a bit so you don't want to play them too much either.
Why would you rest Atkinson? He's a bowler, that's his job. He might not play all the games but it's crazy not to give one of your top bowlers enough experience at the top level before the Ashes.
I simply do not know why they all seem so set on Archer getting back into the side. He's never fit to play, does not even seem to want to play - unless it's the IPL with those large pay cheques....
Rather have bethel than pope. Smith cone back in. Crawley so out of touch with slightly dodgy technique. The bowling is easy apart from spin options that are accurate.
Root absolutely shafted Archer... He's the best batter ever but the worst England captain I've ever seen... Many like me warned that Root was destroying Archer in treating him like a cart-horse rather than a thoroughbred race-horse and sadly we've been proved right.
Rubbish. Bumrah bowls plenty of overs. So did Brett Lee and Shoiab Akhtar. If your body isn't up to test cricket it isn't up to test cricket. He's not an all rounder he has to do his job.
Brett Lee 16,531 balls bowled in 150 innings = 18.36 overs per innings Jofra Archer 2,609 balls bowled in 24 innings = 18.11 overs per innings And Brett Lee did it for well over a decade, Archer can’t even do it for for a full test series!! 😂
@GIBBO4182 exactly. This is another snowflake who thinks you can just wrap everyone up in cotton wool. It's elite sport ffs lol Archer wasn't overbowled.
Archer has never proved the ability to play for more than a couple of matches. If he can't bowl 15 overs a day without breaking down he has no place in the test arena, he has bowled less than 20 overs an innings which just puts extra load on the other bowlers in a long innings.
Harmison is a fool. Archer has heen unfit for ages. If he's fit, make him play for Sussex and prove it. Suggesting Atkinson should be left out is ridiculous
We've pumped so much time and money into Jofra Archer .... and we're still waiting. Forget him. If he wants it and wants to pay us back, then its up to him to earn it. X-factor?!! That was 5 years ago. Harmison is basing this on 1-2 tests 5 years ago. He's a white ball cricketeer only, for me. He'd break down after 1-2 tests.
Archer was ruined by English cricket, specifically Root who treated him like a cart-horse rather than a thoroughbred... Those with deep knowledge of cricket like me warned at the time that Root was risking Archers career, it's not a hindsight thing and we've been proved correct.
"He might not be fully fit by the middle of June...." What? He's playing in the IPL. Is he doing that while unfit? Frankly, if Archer isn't PROPERLY fit by June, then he's never going to be and it's time to move on. And even if he is fit, he doesn't warrant automatically jumping the queue ahead of Carse, Atkinson, Wood, and maybe even Potts or Tongue. But of course the ECB have poured money into him as if he were the last fast bowler in the world, so they'll feel obliged to back that up.
No chance Bashir gets dropped and next to no chance Crawley does unless he goes the next 8 innings also without a 50 and at that point it may be too late to integrate a test opener with his first trip being to Australia so they may say we're sticking with him through thick and thin we've made an investment and we think he'll come good in Australia which is the endgame of this regime and he possibly will come good if his technique suits anywhere it's Australia pace and bounce coming on to the bat for this pulls and drives less seam movement but edges will carry there are positives and negatives
@SophieThomas-b6w that's an appalling decision. Bethell has only just come into the side, now you want him to open. You've moved Smith to accommodate Pope when Smith is better and 5 seamers is far too much
Madness.
Pope has proven over a LONG period of time that he lacks the proper mentality needed to bat at 3. He's just not a number 3. If he does play, it should be at 6 where he's far more comfortable.
Woakes is on the way out. What is he now? 33? 34? His pace is in decline (and it was never particularly fast to begin with). Time to give the younger bowlers a chance.
Ousting Gus Atkinson is the epitome of overcomplicating the situation, one that doesn't in any way, shape or form need complicating. He's done very well as a bowler, and shown that he can bat too. Moreover, he's most likely going to get even better as he gains further experience. So he needs to be retained.
The logical thing to do is have Carse, Atkinson and one of either Wood/Archer - along with the spinner.
Smith will obviously have to come back in, and I would wager that Bethell has done enough AND shown enough to replace either Crawley or Pope.
Thank God Harmison isn't a selector.
The problem is there's no chance they'll drop Pope or Crawley. You can't put Bethell in to open anyway. But Duckett and Crawley opening is working well as far as I'm concerned.
Personally I can't see how they can put Pope back to no.3 though. He's shown so far in NZ that batting at 6 might work for him. So does he keep the gloves and bat at 6 and you bring Jamie Smith in at 3 as a specialist batsman? In which case you drop Bethell.
Don't even think wood will last more than 2 tests a series, he is also 34.
I think the young X factor of Josh Hull is needed with Stone and Potts as back up.
Jofra Archer won't play test cricket again,not sure he even wants to.Woakes won't play in Australia. Atkinson is quality with bat and ball.
lol. Go bet your house on it if you believe he won’t play test cricket again.
NZ tried Lockie Ferguson in tests. He got injured in his first match. Now he only plays white ball.
For me Atkinson and Carse are playing at Headingly, both have been brilliant when they’ve played.
Forget Archer for Test match cricket…can we really see him bowling 15-20 overs in a day? Archer should play for Sussex in the coming series to prove his fitness to bowl in Tests. If he does that, then he would be an asset in Australia.
Woakes bowling at 125kph is not going to cut it….big fan of his, but time to move on.
I respect the view of Harmison and always Jerson to hear what he has to say, but on this occasion, I think he has got it wrong.
Archer doesn't need to prove anything. Playing for Sussex in a sub standard competition won't prove anything.
@ - we are talking about fitness and conditioning, if he can bowl long spells in County cricket, then he should be considered for Australia…not the India series - perhaps the final Test would be a good move if he himself is serious about playing Test cricket. A fit and firing Archer is what we want and need and at his best he is a cert’ for Australia. This has nothing to do with proving his quality, this is purely to do with his condition and fitness to bowl for longer spells if required.
What other competition can he play first class cricket in?
Brett Lee took 160 test wickets after the age of 29. Archer is 29. He still has plenty of time and can work his way back to test cricket. Injuries happen, people recover. He’s back to bowling 90 in internationals so cricket
You can't drop Gus, he's actually better than Archer and he'll be much more reliable long term.
He can hold a bat too!
Gus is a world class number 8 and Carsen is a number 7 batting at 9. Archer has missed the party. Wood plays if he's fit at 10. Our weakness is Crawley and Spin.
He isn't, it's not even close. He's more reliable and will probably play more games and hopefully have a great career, but Archer fully firing clearly a lot better.
I'd love to see the "A Team" - Atkinson at one end, Archer at the other!
@@robertmason6366 Well let's face it the CC administrators can be blamed for that, when Somerset produced a pitch similar to those in India they were fined and docked points from their table. If they do things like that then how are batsmen supposed to learn how to play spin????
I think it depends on how fit Stokes is. If Stokes can be an effective 4th seamer, then you have to play Archer - because Archer is incredible, but cannot be used as a 'workhorse'. If Stokes can't take some of the burden without risk of injury to himself, then that exposes Archer to a heavy workload - the very thing that ruined him in the first place.
Having said that, if Bashir can develop just a little bit more, he has the potential to shut one end down, runwise, for hours on end.
Worth a look at keeping bethell at 3 smith back in at 8 and play 3 fast bowlers, Bashir offers very little especially in English conditions, Root and Bethell part time spin does the job.
Smith at 8, you are having a laugh..... Smith is far superior to Bethell (at this moment in time) and is also far superior to Pope, Stokes and Crawley.... Perhaps only Root & Brook have a better chance of scoring consistent runs.
horses for courses both wood and archer can only play 2 tests each in a 5 test series so it'll work out in the end!
No disrespect to Woakes but to pick him ahead of Atkinson is nonsense.
In England ? it's actually fair game
Does anyone know what artillery is behind them?
A fine piece thank you both for your insights
Looks like a BL 6 inch MK 7 coastal defence gun. Probably from around the First World War era.
Archer Archer Archer he hasn't bowled in a first class match for FOUR years Wood has more pace and Atkinson can bat.
Crawley needs a proper innings 10 and 15 and holing out on the boundary is not good enough he's meant to be an opener.
I'm glad Harmy isn't in charge of selection.
Can't believe the Zak Crawley endorsement just through no discussion about his 18th month drought in getting 3 figures.
@@robertmason6366 It's incredible that a man has played over fifty Tests now and is barely averaging thirty, yet he appears virtually undroppable by the management. We all know that he's going to produce the occasional brilliant 80 but that's not enough.
Crawley's got a rich daddy who's best mates with Rob Key and is part of the golfing group so he's undroppable sadly. Only reason he's averaging 30 now is because of the fluke performances in the ashes last year and in India. If not for that he'd still be in the 20's. He has to go.
Archer and england would be better served with focusing him on white ball. Englands bowlers for the India series nay be Carse, Atkinson, Wood/Stone, Bashir and stokes as the change bowler
Wood and Archer should rotate for the same spot. They should never play two matches back to back. Having four seamers when two are Stokes and one of these is an injury crisis waiting to happen.
Woakes is surplus to requirements now that Carse and Atkinson have shown they can bat #8, certainly for Australia.
Carse and Atkinson, too, could rotate for the same spot.
I feel sorry for Sam Cook - an incredible first class record, but doesn't meet the attributes of an overseas Test bowler. Rob Key likened him to Vernon Philander, and he did alright everywhere!
The problem with Sam Cook is not his lack of ability but the fact that you can only have ONE of his type in a test bowling attack, particularly overseas. Philander did so well everywhere because he was supported by other bowlers who were quick to express pace or very tall with a high action that could generate steep bounce. Anderson had an excellent Ashes tour in 2010-11 because of the support of Finn, Tremlett and Bresnan. In 2017-18 Anderson's supporting bowlers were Woakes, C Overton and Curran (all 80mph line and lengthers) the only different bowler was Broad and he was off form and had a bad series.
@AlunThomas-mp5qo I agree, and currently, Woakes holds that spot. I still think Jimmy was good for a few more years but that ship has sailed. When Woakes retires, Cook might have a shot.
@@colinmorrison5119 Yes and Woakes will hold that spot for the next couple of years. After all he did have a long wait to make that spot his own and he did try and change his game, around 2016 he quickened his pace up to 85-86mph and was successful for a year or so but for some reason then reverted back to 80mph.
Woakes will be straight up and down medium pace cannon fodder in Australia so Wood Carse and Atkinson should go
Archer is a sick note even when fit does not have the stamina for test cricket
Absolutely bonkers decision ! Picking a 36 year old Woakes ahead of Gus who will actually board the plane to Aus ! Atkinson has done everything asked of him in the first 11 tests, including getting a hat trick and a ton !
3:20 I think Jofra Archer is living off a reputation he got when he was the only genuine express pace fast bowling option for England’s future and got a lot of hype. I think that “X factor”
Is a bit of an enigma at this point. The idea that he just comes back into the side ahead of the likes of Atkinson or Carse is lazy. He is injury-prone and won’t last a full tour. He hasn’t got a great average (31.04) with only 42 wickets in 19 tests). Atkinson has more wickets (48) in fewer tests (10) with a better average (22.29). Carse already has 25 wickets in 4 tests at an average of 16 (albeit he won’t keep that up). It feels like lazy reporting to just keep saying Archer is a cut above the rest. Wood and Archer are rotational pieces for wickets that suit them. Both are injury-prone and don’t have the same average as Atkinson or Carse have started their careers with. There is a squad of pace bowlers there: Stone, Tongue, Potts, Archer, Woods, Carse, Atkinson. But Archer and Woods aren’t Broad and Anderson.
Fitness is definitely the major factor - it's great we now have strength in "roles" - speed merchants, height and bounce, swing bowlers, spinners, all-rounders, etc. But fitness will dictate who plays. Woakes too slow with kookaburra (but adds batting depth) to travel to Australia as is Potts (who is consistent and a workhorse) but lacks speed unless he can find an extra 2-5 miles an hour he will be on the bench. But then again, if everyone else is injured .....
Not sure what Jack Leach has done to fall out of favour? Much better than Bashir in Pakistan (better batter and better fielder as well); Bashir isn't even first choice for Somerset.
I’d drop Pope for Smith. I’d keep Gus. Depending on fitness and form I’d rotate Wood and Carse. So no Archer for me.
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Archer for Atkinson?? Really Harmison??
If Wood is fit he should play...just has the X-factor of extreme pace.
I love Jofra but i dont think he can still generate 150km+ is barely playing red ball cricket anyway
Woakes is a good bowler in England but India and Australia wouldnt fear him.
Think picking Atkinson, Carse and Wood/Archer the only issue is there isnt really a new ball pairing
If archer can prove his test match cricket fitness, and if he actually wants to play test cricket, he has to be involved against india and then can you imagine him on australian pitches next winter?
I would have Atkinson as the bowling allrounder over Woakes
Atkinson brings batting stability and skills as well. More than Archer.
Jofra Archer batting at 3 instead of Ollie Pope frankly has more merit as a debate than Archer being selected over Atkinson
Atkinson before Woakes. Atkinson can bat and Atkinson should play in front of Woakes. What is Harrison on about? 🤦♂️
So you're saying Woakes can't bat.
Woakes at home is England's best bowler, averages under 22 (better than Anderson and Broad). Also averages over 30 at home with the bat.
Image Atkinson,Carse and Potts at 8,9,10? Wow thats a long tail. Imagine if Mo was still playing at 11. Harmy has lost the plot thinking crawley is going to impress in Australia. His poor defence will be expose against one of the best seam attacks in the modern era.
Sadly, Jofra's future looks as chequered as his past.
Rubbish bowler clearly just doesnt have the body for it
His past is hardly chequered. What rubbish you tall.
Can we talk about the dye job on the hair 😆
May as well get Archer out of the way before the India series, if he can get through one match that's a bonus.
Archer, when did he last bowl a proper Test stint. All hevdoes now is 4 over stints split into 2. I don't really think he even cares.
Time for Crawley to go back to the counties. Too inconsistent for Test cricket. Surprised they aren't talking about Pope in the same terms.
Wow, don’t be like clown Bailey for us in Oz & select players on reputation, select on performance, domestically & internationally. Gus is the future, if the Archer, Wood, etc can’t maintain consistent cricket, but Gus can & he delivers then keep playing him! If you don’t I’m happy to have him back at Surrey, help us win another title! Pope should remodel his game on Mr Cricket Hussey, that role changed the game upset so many teams rhythms. Again if not am more than happy to take Pope back to the Oval for the County championship.
What happened to Wood and Stone?
Saqib Mahmood?
that's not a bad shout - if he has fully recovered. He looked impressive in the white ball games recently.
I think you have to play Atkinson over woakes he is the future
Surely Atkinson plays in Australia - may be rest him for India. Jofra unfortunately is made of glass. That leaves Wood and Woakes - they're getting on a bit so you don't want to play them too much either.
Why would you rest Atkinson? He's a bowler, that's his job. He might not play all the games but it's crazy not to give one of your top bowlers enough experience at the top level before the Ashes.
@@jshaers96 are you Gus Atkinson?
No chance Atkinson misses out.
When fit...
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They've won 3 - 0 ?! Talk about getting ahead of yourself 😂
By now gus should be batting at number 8 not number 9
I simply do not know why they all seem so set on Archer getting back into the side. He's never fit to play, does not even seem to want to play - unless it's the IPL with those large pay cheques....
Rather have bethel than pope. Smith cone back in. Crawley so out of touch with slightly dodgy technique. The bowling is easy apart from spin options that are accurate.
Root absolutely shafted Archer... He's the best batter ever but the worst England captain I've ever seen... Many like me warned that Root was destroying Archer in treating him like a cart-horse rather than a thoroughbred race-horse and sadly we've been proved right.
Rubbish. Bumrah bowls plenty of overs. So did Brett Lee and Shoiab Akhtar. If your body isn't up to test cricket it isn't up to test cricket. He's not an all rounder he has to do his job.
Brett Lee 16,531 balls bowled in 150 innings = 18.36 overs per innings
Jofra Archer 2,609 balls bowled in 24 innings = 18.11 overs per innings
And Brett Lee did it for well over a decade, Archer can’t even do it for for a full test series!! 😂
@GIBBO4182 exactly. This is another snowflake who thinks you can just wrap everyone up in cotton wool. It's elite sport ffs lol Archer wasn't overbowled.
Archer has never proved the ability to play for more than a couple of matches. If he can't bowl 15 overs a day without breaking down he has no place in the test arena, he has bowled less than 20 overs an innings which just puts extra load on the other bowlers in a long innings.
Well if you said it then I’ve no idea why Root didn’t listen to the great davidholgate123
Harmison is a fool. Archer has heen unfit for ages. If he's fit, make him play for Sussex and prove it. Suggesting Atkinson should be left out is ridiculous
Drop Wood. Too many sicknotes with a cushy contract in his back pocket
We've pumped so much time and money into Jofra Archer .... and we're still waiting. Forget him. If he wants it and wants to pay us back, then its up to him to earn it.
X-factor?!! That was 5 years ago. Harmison is basing this on 1-2 tests 5 years ago. He's a white ball cricketeer only, for me. He'd break down after 1-2 tests.
Archer was ruined by English cricket, specifically Root who treated him like a cart-horse rather than a thoroughbred...
Those with deep knowledge of cricket like me warned at the time that Root was risking Archers career, it's not a hindsight thing and we've been proved correct.
You OK? @@davidholgate123
@@davidholgate123 I totally agree with you there, Root was like a young kid with a new toy with Archer.
Jeez harmy really does talk rubbish
"He might not be fully fit by the middle of June...." What? He's playing in the IPL. Is he doing that while unfit? Frankly, if Archer isn't PROPERLY fit by June, then he's never going to be and it's time to move on. And even if he is fit, he doesn't warrant automatically jumping the queue ahead of Carse, Atkinson, Wood, and maybe even Potts or Tongue. But of course the ECB have poured money into him as if he were the last fast bowler in the world, so they'll feel obliged to back that up.
Bashir and Crawley need dropping
No chance Bashir gets dropped and next to no chance Crawley does unless he goes the next 8 innings also without a 50 and at that point it may be too late to integrate a test opener with his first trip being to Australia so they may say we're sticking with him through thick and thin we've made an investment and we think he'll come good in Australia which is the endgame of this regime and he possibly will come good if his technique suits anywhere it's Australia pace and bounce coming on to the bat for this pulls and drives less seam movement but edges will carry there are positives and negatives
Smith should wait for a gap due to a player not performing (over several games) ... Smith chose not to play and he should live by that choice.
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What on earth is this
No spinner?
@@SittaCarolinensis Root and Bethell
Australia will easily win. England is going to lose very badly. 5 . 0
@SophieThomas-b6w that's an appalling decision. Bethell has only just come into the side, now you want him to open. You've moved Smith to accommodate Pope when Smith is better and 5 seamers is far too much