Lucky Confronts Laura about the Rape (Part 2)
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2006
- In this 1998 Emmy-winning General Hospital clip, Lucky (Jonathan Jackson) confronts his mother Laura (Genie Francis) about the fact that his father raped her. Part 2
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Yeah! I loved it when she said "YOU DON'T OWN ME..I HAD A LIFE BEFORE YOU AND SEPARATE FROM YOU!"
That was intense!
He was so good at playing smugness and disgust. He's so good, but it's remarkable how good he was at such a young age.
Yes, he is amazing.
I swear Jonathan Jackson played the best Lucky Spencer ever!!!
Dana McNair yes he did and when gh let him go it in 2012 was a bad move
@@angelamorales2118 GH never let him ago he decided to go cause they wouldn't put back Lucky and Elizabeth together
Agreed!! Great actor. 👍
Genie plays Laura with so much depth; what a wonderful actress
This is one of my favorite Laura scenes. I don't see how she didn't win the Emmy that year for this. JJ is a born actor. He has great depth and poise esp for his age. I'm so grateful for ppl like you would put up these great clips from soap operas when they were at their best. They deserve to be preserved.
GF is an elite actress from 1979 to now. Always controlling a scene.
I will never understand how a person can marry their rapist. . . .and than have his children. That is disgusting.
It really is, but General Hospital played it off as a seduction to boost ratings. And the audience ate it up and adored them as a couple. It's definitely creepy
I hate that Laura went the rape apologist route with "your father loved me always" and "circumstances collided that night." Would have been better if she had said she was able to forgive him and move past it. But, no, she had to basically say that rape is no big deal, and heck, you might even get a hubby out of it.
All that criticism falls on the writers.
Obviously. It's a TV show. Everything the characters do is on the writers.
God! She is amazing! She's been robbed of an Emmy. I hope she gets one soon.
This is an example of re-victimizing the victim. This entire conversation is inappropriate.
And her own son to boot.
I mean, Lucky is wrong. But it's a natural reaction for a 16 year old boy who doesn't yet understand the world.
@@johndalton3180 Like a woman marrying her rapist?
It absolutely was! How dare lucky go after laura like that! He needs a good smack of reality. His mother is not liz and luke and laura were not the same. It was complicated. Little brat!
Facts
Yes Jonathan Jackson is an amazing actor. He was always my favorite on General Hospital.
No matter how beloved Luke and Laura is, it is still so inappropriate. There is no way a rape victims would love and marry her attacker. It’s sick!
Agreed.
U have no understanding. Wouldn't life be great to see it all in black and white. I was rape when I was 14 by my boyfriend who was 18, in my late 20s after I divorced my first husband, I ran into my boyfriend who rape me. All of those feelings from that night were gone. We were 2 different people and we dated for a while and yes I slept with him. Rape is not generic. There are so many different scenarios and everyone of them has a different reaction. Luke and Laura were very complicated from the get go. That night was no different, but they raised above it and moved on and that was nobody's business including asshole lucky.
@@sewforlife5728 I have been sexually assaulted and I could never in a million year fall in love with the person who assaulted me. Nothing you say can make me change my mind about that. There is no gray area in that situation.
@@rahnumaislam1097 That why I said rape is not generic. Every rape is not the same. Situation is not the same. So many factors. Also depends on how strong the person is and how they can handle it. Luke and laura was a lot going on. Luke was madly in love with laura, laura was crazy about luke, but she was young and stuck with stupid scott and she didnt know how to deal with her feelings. Luke was drinking and thought he was a dead man so he was loss in his head. Doesnt make it right but laura and luke obviously found a way around that night and their feelings for each other. I totally get it.
Hell that had nothing compared to Holly and Roger on guiding light
Alright, I'm just gonna get this out of my system: rape does NOT, nor will it EVER, equal to love. It is a shame that General Hospital downplayed that issue when their writers let Luke and Laura marry and I can't believe so many people bought into that bullshit. Do you know how traumatizing the sexual violence is to rape/sexual assault victims? But this soap opera has crossed the line in diluting the seriousness of this issue; and now, there's a lot of victim blaming going on, which is wrong.
Yes definitely that why I cant with this soap opera. It disturbs me how they give a pass to sexual assault smh
I love Jonathan Jackson. Such talent. It's bittersweet seeing old scenes like this and then to compare it to the mess that GH is today.
amazing scene. amazing actors. brilliant storyline!!! i cant believe JJ was only 15 here, he seems so mature and hes just genius, i could watch him all day!!! he really should have been in bigger hollywood type movies cuz honestly his performances in anything he does, is truly oscar worthy, HE HAS IT!
Both people in this scene did a great job of acting-such a hard topic but they did well w/it.
LOVE genie Francis!! That speech to lucky... So good
JJ and GF rocked this scene.
wow this was an amazing scene i wasn't watching gh when this aired, thanks for posting
Genie eventually commented that she was done justifying the rape-seduction storyline. If she has stopped than all L&L fans need to stop too!
The acting was so pure, genuine and intense but I have to admit...as intense as this scene is I can't keep my eyes of JJ! When starts to rebel and move out the house and is hair is dark with the earring he's just so fricking beautiful:) I know Jason and Sonny are considered the sexy men but for me Jonathan jackson was always too gorgeous for words...combined with his acting and natural talent 10 times out of 10 he left me in awe
Thanks! I'll have to check him out!
Back in the day I missed chunks and chunks of this because of school and work so there are some things I caught and some things I missed. This was one of the things I missed; but I'm glad I did because now that I'm older I can see this from both sides now.
When this aired I was a few years older than Lucky. I found out about all of this when he did. I refused to believe it. I thought it was a trick, so I asked my mom and she confirmed it.
Now true, Lucky did overstep and came at Laura crazy and for that he was way wrong. However he is justified in wanting some kinda explanation from somebody about what went on. How would you like to be a teenager and find out your dad raped your mom back in the day, and when you find out about it and ask they tell you basically, "Don't worry about it, and mind your business?!" Didn't they think this day would come? Didn't they expect one day the truth would come out somehow and when that day came they would need to say something to their kids about it?! They never thought about it at all? Remember, this is a kid with no basis of comparison besides what happened to Liz. How's he supposed to know his parents situation is different than Liz's if nobody tells him so? Instead of stonewalling, explain to him that you forgave his dad and made peace with the situation a long time ago. No, he doesn't need the details; but at least give him that. This kid's head was so messed up at one point he was scared shitless that he could do the same thing just because he was Luke's son and that's not right! A whole lot of heartache could've been avoided if they had seen this from his point of view and explained how they got from that horrible night to the life they have now.
I think they moved past it and never expected the subject to come up again. So how did Lucky find out in the first place?
she had to know this was coming
I don't know how anyone who watches these scenes can disagree that JJ was the one and only Lucky Spencer. So happy he's back.
Now we just need Genie. She is a Godess
How did Laura leave the show?
I just hope Genie and JJ come back before and/or when the show ends. We need Luke, Laura and Liz, LUcky to get happy endings. LL2 is my favorite couple. Lucky and Liz need each other and make each other better people.
What an absolutely great scene...One of my all time faves, and this is my first time seeing it
Wow, Lucky has no sympathy for what his mother went thru. What a self centered brat he was in this scene!
He DOES have sympathy...he can’t wrap his head around the fact that his own father raped his mother or the fact that she could forgive his father for that.
As much as I loved JJ, he shouldn’t have attacked his mother for her assault.
I always thought this was creepy the way Lucky reacted to the rape. I understand he would be shocked, but not really attacking his mother like this
It was bad because during this time he found out about Liz being raped. He did go after Luke, I found it creepy the way luke described what he did to Laura, the way he talked about how she smelled, he said she smelled like Roses and he wanted to drown into her, he also described what she was wearing and the high heels she had on and the way the straps was around her ankles. Now that's creepy.
@@GameOn71213 And Lucky did not give Laura the courtesy of the opportunity to explain before he lit into her full force.
I dunno Laura....you seemed to be pretty quick to tell Stavros what love is and how it should be felt....
By far best Lucky ever
miss this lucky. Like the current guy but this is the one who should be playing the part
This is why Genie Francis NEED to go back to GH! We need LAURA BACK NOW!
He is being totally uncaring and obnoxious to his mother. He was not there.
Know it all when he is that young. No one knows i all certainly not a teenager.
I noticed outside of a few quick reunions, Luke and Laura were never the same after this. I think the writers during this time wanted to end the whole facade of that "supercouple." They did the right thing.
I watched GH change her rape to a "seduction"......she is justifying being raped and marrying her rapist....lost respect for the Luke/Laura saga after that.
I am still speechless at her justification and the writers' of General Hospital and how they turned a rape into a love story.
+kimberly harris I think the issue was two-fold: 1. The chemistry between Genie and Tony was amazing during the disco era of GH when the rape occurred, so the writers took that chemistry and turned them into a supercouple and 2. The relationship between Luke and Laura has always been about obsession, power, control and finally forgiveness. They were complicated human beings living complex lives and lies. That certainly doesn't justify what he did (raping her) or what she did (marrying him afterward), but it did make them a fascinating couple to watch for decades. I just didn't like how wimpy the writers made Laura when they reintroduced the Cassadines and Luke forced her to choose between him and Nikolas. I hated that she yielded to him, but eventually she and NIkolas were able to bond.
Anthony Geary was appalled and disgusted about the writers turning his rapist character into love interest. He was sure that women would turn away from GH and when that didn't happen, he quit, but instead of allowing him to leave, he got a HUGE RAISE and a better negotiated contract that basically gave him awesome perks to be off when he wanted to be and the writers work around it. I have a girlfriend who was raped and I couldn't image her or any woman KNOWINGLY marrying her rapist.
+kimberly harris The story should have ended in 82. Luke left town without saying goodbye to Laura left a note last year. The year before that Luke told Laura there love was like an old worn out tshirt. Now Laura is pending time with Scotty again. No such thing as love on this planet. Laura should have pressed rape charges on madman Luke 25 years ago and stayed married to Scotty.
Laura's rather twisted way of trying to excuse what Luke did is... sickening. If their relationship had been nothing more than Stockholm syndrome and not spanned the years and produced two children. But this? It's as though she forced it right out of her blonde head. Maybe that's what, in large part, led to her breakdown.
Know it was the DAVID HAMITON INCIDENT THAT SHE NEVER GOT OVER
disappointingly, I can't seem to get this to play . . .
he acts so righteous he is a spoiled brat
How did a wonderful loving family unit end up with such dramatic fail in the rearing of this ungrateful brat?
@@judithjerde1574 he is not an ungrateful brat! He found out the truth and he was reeling. Laura can't justify the unjustifiable. Lucky's friend was just raped and he went to his father for help to understand how a man could do that to a girl and instead of telling him the truth he just sat there and watched his son suffer! If you think Luke and Laura are complicated then look at Lucky. He has been told all of his life that he was just like his father and you can tell he was very proud of that. His whole world is falling down around him how did you expect him to act? He is not self righteous and he is not spoiled he is a 16 year old kid who spent his life being lied to over and over again. He was in pain and he was scared he would turn out just like his father. Nothing Lucky said was wrong. Maybe he should have went about it a different way but he was betrayed and hurt and confused. What else do you want from him?? He was sick of being lied to and the man that he has spent his whole life looking at as a hero Raped his own mother and she stayed with him???? There is nothing okay about that!
Great Acting. WOW!!!!!
GF should have won an Emmy for this scene.
Writers should have never made them fall in love and marry. Rape is rape dont down play it that you fall in love and marry.
Jonathan Jackson was an amazing young actor. I wonder whatever happened to him??
Partying lifestyle.
As weired as it is Luke and Laura never would have happend if the fans didn't want it when it started off they planned to make this a regular rape story but the fans fell in love with these two people so the show had to spin what had happend I think though they made up for the fact that Laura feel in love with Luke by the way the reopend it with this story line
@AdArmand JJ is an old soul so true. JJ is gifted no question about that. GH and GH fans are lucky (pun) to have him.
This kid was way too nasty to his own mother. I dislike him how he treated Laura considering she was the victim. It was like Lucky was blaming the victim. But Laura needs to acknowledge her rape and stop making excuses for it.
Rape is bad, yes, terrible, but one shouldn’t tell the victim how to feel. They deal with the experience joe they feel it needs to be dealt. Just because they don’t react broken and destroyed after the rape. Doesn’t mean they are a bad victim. As much as I like Lucky, I can’t take his side here.
Woah, this was the GH I fell in love with, and not what we have now. If you're not happy with the way the show is going, you're welcome to join other ABC soap fans from all three shows that will not be watching this friday may 1st, to try to make TPTB understand that without fans, they have no show.
Wonderful scene.
what a scene this was
Genie!!!!!
Genie Francis and Jonathan Jackson ROCKED this scene and this storyline....I wanted to smack Lucky for acting like he could tell his mom how she should've reacted to being raped...Genie deserved an Emmy for this
Lucky is projecting. He is projecting his on fears and self loathing, onto his parents.(his father is more deserving of that, his mom, most DEFINATELY not)
But he's dealt with a lot in this last year that we are watching right now. Hell, it started before that.
He's got a brother his mom never told him about, who shared blood with the family his father has taught him to loathe. He looks at Nik and can't see a brother. Because he's trying to see through the haze of hate for the Cassidines, betrayal from his mother, and jealousy of not being her first born anymore.(petty, yeah, but he's.a kid)
Then he finds his friend, bloody and broken in the snow. It doesn't take a genius to figure out what happened there. Yeah, it happened to her. But he got woken up to the true ugliness of this world, real quick. In a sense, his innocence was lost that night as well.
Then he finds out that she was in that park, because she was avoiding going to the dance.....
And she was avoiding going to the dance, because she had thought they were going together, and she couldn't hide her hurt and embarrassment at seeing him go with her sister. And having her grandmother keep talking about how happy Elizabeth was about going with him, did NOT help his guilt.
He's still grappling with what kind of monster could do that to a 15yr old girl, turning to his father for guidance. And then he finds out from his biggest rival, and only brother, that his father IS one of those monsters. And his mother was found in the park, just a few feet away from where he saw Liz crawling out of those bushes. So now he's dealing with worry for his friend, guilt because she should have been safe with him at that dance, lies from his parents. And that annoying irrational fear, that the apple didn't fall far enough from that tree. That's a lot for a 16yr old boy.
This whole speech by Laura is excusing rape and it’s disgusting. I can’t believe these writers wrote that nonsense. Lucky was right to be angry.
He was right on a lot of counts lucky spent a life on the run with these two idiots country to country town to town he depended on them for everything his survival, running from frank while preaching to lucky about owning what you do, hard work and responsibilities all those enemies just pushed them even closer making for a very tight family unit, to find out that the better parts of his childhood like the parts where he didn't get shot at were based on a very ugly lie would be hard to tolerate.
That smug look on Lukcky's face is making me nauseous.Laura was a good mother to him,and she dosen't deserve this attitude.
Cocodan 2000 I agree. But teenagers can be like this smug and self righteous.
In all honesty it is none of his business what went on like she said she had a separate life before and after his birth he was an ass anyway
you go Laura
I agree.
this lucky was so good :)
Lucky had no right to be so smug & mean to his mother she was the victim for for godsakes!!! I never got the whole rape victim falls for rapist thing that thrilled the world literally. 30 million people watched their wedding ! Maybe people want to believe so badly in redemption. I don't know . I'm jj's age so I wasn't born til after l&l wedding. Oltl tried to go there w/ Todd & Marty thank God the actors refused! Fans def were down for it as polls always pulled in for t&m once Todd became a hot property like Luke & the chemistry was there for Todd & Marty but they blew it. Plus it was a gang rape led by Todd. Not to say one rape is worse than another but a gang rape egged on by the ringleader should is just another level of sickening. Rape is rape period. Anyway on gh I'm guessing they never intended for l&l to take off. I think they had no choice as the fans went wild. I guess being fiction & times being so different it was written & back stepped. I did read Laura gave Luke ish for a year or so after. I did see the scene of Laura in the hospital after & it's heart breaking. I think lucky should have more empathy for laura & ask why she forgave him instead of making fun of her like she's some pycho. I get his anger at Luke but why at laura?
What happens between a man & a woman is between a man & woman. Lucky did overstep
That was fucked up.
THIS IS TOUR DE FORCE HERE!!!
Genie Francis is a GOD.
Lucky like his father is a sanctimonious smart arse.
Johnathan Jackson is Phenomenal 💯 a Natural. He Nailed these Scenes👏 and every other scene that followed. Know Wonder why he Won 6Emnys!
lucky did need to get slapped i mean even if he was some what justified he was waaaaaaaay out of line
I hate lucky in this whole storyline. He needs a slap upside his head. How dare he make it about him. That little arrogant self righteous brat!!
Ooo.
I loved Lucky, but this interaction is sad. He made her out to be a bad guy somehow.
Good for you laura
❤❤. Ashame. Laura how to explain. To her son. .how uncomfortable for poor laura ❤. 4 16 24
Who is laura soulmate? Luke, Stefan or Kevin
None of these men tbh.
2o20 an I'm watching.
If this is how Lucky reacted to that part of his parents past, imagine how Johnny from Days Of Our Lives will react to finding out EJ raped Sami and he was a product from that.
Well done Laura.
good for laura
chill out, Laura
I love Laura
Laura should've turned on him. She should've went on him for not being their to Elizabeth.
Laura & Luke shoulda treated Lucky like the kid he was from the start. This is what happens when a child is treated like one of the grownups, put a pedestal. No excuse for the nasty insinuations he through at his mother. Lucky seemed a little creepy himself in this scene.
This is such bad acting and writing lol how did they turn a rape storyline into a huge love story
Laura should have slapped the punk
@freshasflowers And I don't care what people say, the Luke and Laura pairing is not cute and it is NOT romantic. And just so you know, sex offenders are the hardest to rehabilitate (and by that, I mean it'll take 5 centuries for them to redeem themselves).
So grateful the rest of us did not agree with you. I will love l&l forever. They fell in love before that terrible night. It worked because we loved Luke's love for Laura before that night, and understood all that both were going thru. She wanted him, she just didn't know how to get out of a marriage she no longer wanted to be in, and was only 17. Call it f''ked up all you want. But lord we love n have loved them so very much. It was unfair they didn't leave and walk off into the sunset together.
Another Luke and Laura apologize. I love how you whack job losers justify rape. Keep rooting for the true love rapists. Haha
How in the world did Generation X idolized a character like Luke who assaulted a woman? Especially Gen X women, where were their self pride or self respect?! Thank goodness we have evolved from Gen X
The oldest Gen Xers were 14 and in school in 1979. Don't blame Gen X.
@Nyanko Meiji Rape is rape. Stop justifying assault on women. It’s almost like you support attacking women
This was the stupidest storyline ever. She actually married her rapist!🤦🏻I’ll never understand the thought process behind that!
Gloria Monty was obsessed by Anthony Geary and the chemistry between the two. Speaking as someone who was watching it at the time, they had Laura flashback to that scene in the disco so many times and each time she kind of restructured it in her mind. She was maybe 18 at the time - I don’t even think she was legal to work in a club- and she took the job to pay for Scotty a set of law books. At the time Scotty was the good guy who had been in love with her since she was 14 or so and he was the only guy she’d ever dated. (Well she’d been in love with some older guy whom she ended up killing ) so she gets interested in bad boy Luke. He rapes her and she can’t get him out of her mind. She’s writing him a love letter about how she can’t stop thinking about him “ever since the night you raped me” and Scotty reads it and all heck broke lose. Then Luke gets shot at his wedding and everybody thinks he’s dead, Laura finds him and they run away together. It was ridiculous. And she wore the same blue dress for months. 😂
@@suekelley2109 Wow!! I’m glad I wasn’t watching them, hehe
This Lucky was a brat and know it all
He drawing the way Elizabeth was raped totally diff Laura was seduced
Laura was raped!
@@tammymartinez7488 I’m afraid there’ll never be a resolution between fans on the rape v. seduction argument. It’s like the, what came first the chicken or the egg question.
Her running off and sobbing into the ground didn't seem like seduction to me.
Johnathan Jackson@His Best He is a Great Actor💯 so Phenomenal. And so young!!! No Wonder Why he Won6 Emmys Consistently🫲 As far as I’m Concerned He is the Only Lucky Spencer!❤️ And Laura Trying to Justify the Rape by using the word Love it’ is Sick