These scenes remind me of what a great actor Jonathan Jackson was during this time, and how much better this show would probably be if he was still a part of it.
JJ and JMB are the only Spencer offspring I'll accept. The rest are just temporary replacements. JMB embodies Tony's devil-may-care, tortured soul, but with Genie's face. While JJ has Genie's heart / expressions and passion down without fumbling. I hope they both return one day. Same for TG.
Wow...totally not what one would expect to hear from his or her dad...it definitely "hit" some...thanks for posting. I do not usually watch GH, but this storyline was wow.
I've been watching GH for 50 years and I remember everything! I'm going to say it again the Spencer family Luke Laura Lucky and Lulu are one amazing hard rock 🪨 to the bone!! love our real original Characters Anthony Geary Gene Francis Jonathan Jackson and Julie Marie Berman No one compares to them!! Real Talk 💯 They played the crap outta of their role script 💯 This is the GH we definitely need back on ASAP 2023 bring it on
Yet their relationship was still romanticized which was not ok. I also had watched this show for years and the way the writers allowed us to be manipulated into thinking that a romance could developed from a very violent act is crazy. Sorry this was never ok and should never be seen at normal or acceptable. Especially considering this was daytime tv which mean young people could watch it.
@@rajrichardson8754exactly 💯 teenage girls were addicted to the show. We raced home from school to watch it and called each other during commercials to talk about whatever happened. We unfortunately idolized them and we all wanted to be Laura.... Not when that happened but she was so beautiful we all wanted to be her. Making a whole generation of young girls think this was ok was dangerous
No, GH was already number 2 in the ratings at this point; Gloria Monty and headwriter Doug Marland had saved it from cancellation with the Monica/Rick/Lesley and Bobbie/Scotty/Laura triangles.
It is insane to me that a TV show within my lifetime had a story line about a rape victim getting married to her rapist. The 1970s were a very strange time.
I am 44 and I agree with you. The only thing I will say is the Luke of 2023 isn’t the same Luke of 1977. In all fairness I didn’t start watching GH until 1997.
I'm 19 years old and been watching GH since i was 10. I feel like i missed out on the glory years of GH. The s/ls i watch now PALE in comparison. Thank goodness for youtube.
mermer0729 you did.🤣 from the late 80s to the early 2000s the show was gr8t. I stopped watching after I graduated from college in 2001. The producers kept changing the head writers kept changing and the story lines became convoluted.
At first, I felt the same way you do. However, the way Luke handled it afterward, his guilt, his involvement with Laura in trying to get her to get help, not denying that what he did was wrong, etc., it kind of changed my mind. It's up to Laura, really, how she honestly feels about Luke. She forgave him, she had empathy for his pain and came to terms with his horrible act. It's the ultimate forgiveness and compassion for another human being who has mistreated you.
No, i don't care how he tried to man up afterwards but for them to try to turn it into a romance is nasty. Plus she talks about how his rape sent her to a psych ward.
"The lies and distortions of Baldwin" Luke always tries to make Baldwin out as the boogie man. Luke forever tilts the frame to try and put himself in a better light.
@@victoriajohnson5461 Scottie shouldn't have orchestrated it to be brought up in court, but Scottie didn't rape Laura... Luke raping Laura was the truth.
Luke is the biggest hypocrite I have ever seen on soaps. He is a rapist, a killer hangs out with other killers like sonny. I have always hated Luke Spencer. Especially since nikolas first arrived, he was so harsh on him, well nikolas didn't ask to be born, but luke chose to rape laura.
It bothered me as well, in the context of a soap viewer. However, when I look at it from a writer's standpoint, I was able to appreciate certain aspects of the entire story arc. Gloria Monty tackled a rewrite that most producers would've never touched, during that time. GH was about to be cancelled, so there was nothing to lose. Gloria took advantage of the chemistry between TG and GF. It was up to the viewers to drink the Kool-Aid or not. Boy, did they drink it.
There were plenty of "reformed rapists" on daytime TV in the 80s. In fact, there was a TV Guide article on it called "Please Stop Making Rapists Into Heroes." It was a THING not something "no one would touch."
@@jennhunt1996 You won't find it online. I've been looking for it. At one point I found a picture of it but not the article itself. I remember this being a rather standard storyline on soaps at the time. Crazy.
@DawnYzag Unfortunately, those things happen in real life too. Some rape victims refuse to admit their situation was rape so marry their attackers legetimize their experience.
The way they dealt with this later undid some of the damage that was caused by putting Luke & Laura together after the rape. It doesn't seem like they ever reckoned as a couple with what happened, but just wiped it away and stuffed it down.
They did confront it much later, I don't remember if they were still married or divorced at that point, but Laura told Luke that she had wanted him back then. I felt like she was saying it was partly her fault. But I don't think she wanted him by force. There was still some lack of clarity for me in the conversation they had. There are some clips of that conversation on here, I think in 3 parts.
I think that's what it was too. She already had feelings for Luke despite being married and didn't know what to do. Still though, Laura didn't deserve to be raped.
Did you watch the old episodes? She didn’t love him, she barely knew him. All she did was reach out to him as a friend and he raped her. She was only 17 years old. And everybody blamed her for all of it.
I don't diminish what Luke did in the least. However, I do feel some pain for him, that he has to live it over and over again. It was a bold story for the writers to do, but I'm glad they did it because it asks hard questions. Can a person find redemption? Can one horrible mistake be forgiven? Tough things to think about...
I was a teenager when this event happened. The storyline was something that had never been done, and not only the writers but the actors were just suberb. Laura forgave him years ago and while she may not have loved him at the time, Laura did feel something for Luke. So much so that she ran off with him and lived an adventure until they came back. While Luke has never forgive himself, she did. Was it rape, yes, no, maybe. Honestly, at this point I don't even know anymore and I wonder if that's a question that is meant to always have an ambiguous answer.
Because Geary was so much older than Genie and because he played a character that rapped Laura, I never liked the couple together. Their adventures did not change my attitude.
TG was not meant to be a regular. He was only slated for a brief s/l, but the fans fell in love with him, the same w/MB/Sonny. He was only supposed be on a few episodes, but he became known as the mobster w/a heart of gold
I didn't really see them as a great couple, either. TG was 15 years older than Genie. She was just 17 when LnL got started, and AG was 32. TG was never comfortable with the LnL craze. He recognized and acknowledged the rape, and grew weary of going on talk shows where clips from the wedding were always played and the couple was glorified.I can appreciate why he enjoys the privacy and freedom of living in Amsterdam. GH isn't on TV there and he's treated just like an average person. He's 76 now and his earned the right to retire in comfort because of his work on GH.
Luke is a son of a bitch for what he put Laura through; however, I do have to give him credit for coming out into the open and telling his kids what he did to their mother. At least he didnt throw a fit when confronted by his kids. Lucky needs to chill out
DENNIS FODOR I agree with you but we can't hardly blame him because we don't know how we would react if we were blindsided from our half sibling because it should come from our father and mother
Then Laura confronted Luke many years later (in the mid-2000s, I think) and screamed at him something to the effect of _'You raped me!'_ *Edit:* Boy, am I bad at time perception. The 'you raped me' line happened in the late 1990s.
My god these are powerful scenes. TG in particular in the scene with Lucky. Because it's their parents, Lucky and Lulu are, of course, unable to see the complexity of the whole rape situation. Not condoning, just observing - it was never black and white, although the kids see it that way.
It sounds as if you actually are condoning the rape. That's sick. It's difficult to believe that rape was somehow romanticized by a soap opera and this truly wasn't that many years ago. Times have not changed very much when it comes to the way society wants to view rape. Rape actually causes Post Traumatic Stress Disorder but many don't want to believe that. They want to blame the women in these situations and ask victim blaming questions like, "What was she wearing?" or "Why was she out late at night?"
@@ellencarroll2921 Please do not make ridiculous accusations. I'm not condoning rape at all. That interpretation is on you and you alone. I am observing and commenting on THIS PARTICULAR scene, and the powerful acting. You don't need to give me an educational lecture, which is what you are doing. Btw, I don't see you making the same accusation to all the other comments here which compliment the great acting.
@@ellencarroll2921 That is your incorrect interpretation. I can and do deny it. By the way, have you ever heard of nuance. Do you understand the meaning of nuance? When you watch the original scene and have watched the many Luke and Laura scenes which followed, a discerning person can see that the story line was not a simple rape story. It was much more complicated and, oh yes, nuanced. The writers made it that way. Over the years since it first aired in 1979, there has been much discussion about that controversial rape story and their subsequent relationship. The post-rape story line was dreamt up because Anthony Geary became so popular with General Hospital watchers, that the powers that be wanted him to stay on the show. It wasn't originally planned that way. He was supposed to only be on for thirteen weeks. Everything that followed the rape was written for ratings and to keep Geary on the show. I guess you're okay with that? Rape/not rape for ratings is okay with you? Laura protecting her rapist from being found by the police is okay with you? You're good with Laura falling in love with her rapist? I wonder, since you seem to only see this as a black or white issue with no gray in between. To this day the story line is somewhat controversial. I mean, just look at the comments in this thread! Most people are actually able to have an interesting discussion about it. You might look into the history of the Luke and Laura relationship instead of attacking me. Projecting your feelings onto me when all I did was express admiration for the scene and the acting is interesting. You do know that we're discussing a soap opera, not real life? Also, look up projection when you look up nuance. Whatever your deal is, it seems you have a need to project your assumptions onto me. Erroneously. I'm done.
I have a serious question. And I'm not trying to come off shrewd or mean. I came across a Instagram video of the song Rise by Her Alpert and one of the comments said it reminds me of Luke and Laura. I'll began looking up Luke and Laura on RUclips. I came across videos of the infamous scene "at the disco". While looking up other videos of them two, many of the comments say positive things about Luke & Laura. I never watched the show before and I'm confused as to why people "like" the "Laura & Luke" dynamic in this series. Especially after the "Disco incident". What is the fascination with Luke & Laura?? I feel like people should hate Luke.
The only answer is it was the 80s. Different time. It's not a dynamic you would see on national TV now. Now, you can go to subgenres of romance novels for "taboo" couples but back then they were out in the open. Luke wasn't the only rapist hero on TV, trust me. (child of the 80s) At one point there was a TV Guide article titled "Stop Making Rapists into Heroes" - that's how popular that kind of thing was! One of those things you just look back and shake your head. (I will say I was never a Luke & Laura fan. Scotty and Heather were my jam.)
@@blondewriter99 This has nothing to do with era it was in. Rape was wrong in the 80s too. I can't remember all of the details but, in a nutshell, they redeemed the character or Luke and Laura essentially forgave him.
@@rachybaby72 It has everything to do with the 80s. I was THERE. Rape wasn't NOT wrong but you would not get a character like this today on a national TV show. If there is one, please point it out.
@@blondewriter99 I WAS THERE TOO. And the reaction had nothing to do with the era. The writers turned what happened into a "seduction" and people went with it, and it helped that Laura moved past it. The same thing happened with the Todd character on One Life to Live and that was definitely a rape -- and that was the 1990s -- and the character was "redeemed". I, a child of the 80s, never really moved past it, and most people didn't deep down, but we went with it because of how they redeemed Luke. That's it in a nutshell -- and has nothing to do with the so-called "sensibilities" of the time...
Nice vid i miss johnathan jackson if he came back as lucky i wouldnt want elizabeth to be with jason anymore or maybe i would but the triangle would be cool to watch
Liz had many gay boy toys. Trust me, Tony is gay! He has never really said he "Slept" with Liz. He calls it an affair, but that does not always physical. He was smooth how he answered questions about Liz.
I think that's why ABC killed Luke's character off after Tony's. Gary left the show and I think that's why they won't bring back Todd since he raped. Marty on one life to live he don't want. They don't want to have a character like that on their show. That was Luke. Worst thing he ever did. Cannot defend it
It was so well written…even KNOWING luke Raped Laura…we all fell in love with Luke and Laura…scotty Baldwin cheated on Laura with Bobby spencer…(Luke’s sister that used to be a hooker…until she went to nursing school) lol…You would have to start from the beginning…it was awesome…I watched it in the 70s and 80s lol
Ps…I can’t listen to the song “Rise” without thinking about luke and Laura lol…that’s the song that played while he raped her…to be honest…Laura had feelings for Luke…but she was married to Scotty…lol…
@@ronswansonsdog2833 lol…Exactly…I said that on another post…some woman was like “Luke didn’t rape laura!! They’re married!!” I was like “Ok, you must be younger than me…so back to the early 80s and watch general hospital!! Lmk what ya think lol”
Why the hell does it matter to his kids what happened between their parents way before they became a couple?... their mother forgave him, fell in love with him and it’s really none of the kid’ business what happened before they became a couple and then got married!
It was a way for the writers to explain that what Luke did was heinous and was forgiven the most unforgivable act against another human being. By the time Luke tells Lucky, the real world was very aware of what is now called the #metoo movement and they needed to address that what Luke did was wrong.
I never was a Luke/Laura fan. I always refused to accept the 'rewrite' of the 'seduction of Laura'. It was rape, plain and simple. However, IF that is the way GH was going to spin it, then so be it. I don't think the rape should have been brought up again, and certainly not to the knowledge of Luke and Laura's children. Lucky is a punk. He's always so disrespectful and rude to his parents. Of course, it's Luke and Laura's own fault, because they raised him that way. GH just revisited the rape to get high drama and emotion, and lots of discussion. I am no Luke fan but I think it's unfair for him to have to explain to his children what happened long ago, that was actually spun to be a seduction. Not to mention the absolute trauma the children must have to work through. Luke was hailed Port Charles's Hero, now he's just an old, washed up rapist. I think they should have not revisited the rape.
My grandma gets annoyed with me because I refuse to acknowledge the whole Luke and Laura love thing. How the do you get hyped over a relationship that was literally built up right after Luke raped her?
Not at all, he married a woman 10 years his senior. She played hannah Scott on GH, daughter of Roy DiLucca, who was a friend of Luke. Hannah was a FBI informant and brief love interest for Sonny Corinthos.
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These scenes remind me of what a great actor Jonathan Jackson was during this time, and how much better this show would probably be if he was still a part of it.
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This is excellent! I love both of these performances. It really shows Tony Geary's great acting range and technique. Wonderful editing here.
Luke was awful for raping Laura…And he regretted it ever since. (Not excusing him)
JJ and JMB are the only Spencer offspring I'll accept. The rest are just temporary replacements. JMB embodies Tony's devil-may-care, tortured soul, but with Genie's face. While JJ has Genie's heart / expressions and passion down without fumbling. I hope they both return one day. Same for TG.
u did such a good job putting this together.i missed everything (this storyline "hit" me a little, but still). so thanks!
Wow...totally not what one would expect to hear from his or her dad...it definitely "hit" some...thanks for posting. I do not usually watch GH, but this storyline was wow.
amazing scenes. wow. edited was done really well.
I've been watching GH for 50 years and I remember everything! I'm going to say it again the Spencer family Luke Laura Lucky and Lulu are one amazing hard rock 🪨 to the bone!! love our real original Characters Anthony Geary Gene Francis Jonathan Jackson and Julie Marie Berman No one compares to them!! Real Talk 💯 They played the crap outta of their role script 💯 This is the GH we definitely need back on ASAP 2023 bring it on
❤. Very. Well. Said 4 12 24.
Yet their relationship was still romanticized which was not ok. I also had watched this show for years and the way the writers allowed us to be manipulated into thinking that a romance could developed from a very violent act is crazy. Sorry this was never ok and should never be seen at normal or acceptable. Especially considering this was daytime tv which mean young people could watch it.
@@rajrichardson8754exactly 💯 teenage girls were addicted to the show. We raced home from school to watch it and called each other during commercials to talk about whatever happened. We unfortunately idolized them and we all wanted to be Laura.... Not when that happened but she was so beautiful we all wanted to be her. Making a whole generation of young girls think this was ok was dangerous
@@onangelwings462Yessss exactly I was a teen too. So you definitely remembered the same. Girl we even rooted for Luke over Scotty😅. SMH
No, GH was already number 2 in the ratings at this point; Gloria Monty and headwriter Doug Marland had saved it from cancellation with the Monica/Rick/Lesley and Bobbie/Scotty/Laura triangles.
It is insane to me that a TV show within my lifetime had a story line about a rape victim getting married to her rapist. The 1970s were a very strange time.
I am 44 and I agree with you. The only thing I will say is the Luke of 2023 isn’t the same Luke of 1977. In all fairness I didn’t start watching GH until 1997.
@@suzannec8400 Luke's still alive?
I'm 19 years old and been watching GH since i was 10. I feel like i missed out on the glory years of GH. The s/ls i watch now PALE in comparison. Thank goodness for youtube.
mermer0729 you did.🤣 from the late 80s to the early 2000s the show was gr8t. I stopped watching after I graduated from college in 2001. The producers kept changing the head writers kept changing and the story lines became convoluted.
Wow your comment was 10 years ago lol
Oh boy, did you every miss out on the glory years. Actually, there were a couple of eras that were great. It's _'meh'_ now by comparison.
@@gee2541 Now 12 years ago.
@@ColumbiaQT2001 Yeah 2001 really was a weird year for the show. However, it was better than the rest of the 2000s from 2002 onward imo.
Tony, Gary and Jonathan Jackson always have good story lines together and good scenes
At first, I felt the same way you do. However, the way Luke handled it afterward, his guilt, his involvement with Laura in trying to get her to get help, not denying that what he did was wrong, etc., it kind of changed my mind. It's up to Laura, really, how she honestly feels about Luke. She forgave him, she had empathy for his pain and came to terms with his horrible act. It's the ultimate forgiveness and compassion for another human being who has mistreated you.
@spirals 73 idk if you can really repent for r*pe
@spirals 73 not denying what he did? You sure about that
❤. Always. Pray for thoae who mistreat you 4 24
No, i don't care how he tried to man up afterwards but for them to try to turn it into a romance is nasty. Plus she talks about how his rape sent her to a psych ward.
So much for gumdrop after that revelation, Lucky was never the same either 😔
Some of the best acting I’ve seen in soap!
"The lies and distortions of Baldwin" Luke always tries to make Baldwin out as the boogie man. Luke forever tilts the frame to try and put himself in a better light.
Scotty was the wrong party not Luke.
@@victoriajohnson5461 You said this on a post where Luke is admitting to rape
@@victoriajohnson5461 Scottie shouldn't have orchestrated it to be brought up in court, but Scottie didn't rape Laura... Luke raping Laura was the truth.
Luke is the biggest hypocrite I have ever seen on soaps. He is a rapist, a killer hangs out with other killers like sonny. I have always hated Luke Spencer. Especially since nikolas first arrived, he was so harsh on him, well nikolas didn't ask to be born, but luke chose to rape laura.
@@desireeboone3631 Yep.
It bothered me as well, in the context of a soap viewer. However, when I look at it from a writer's standpoint, I was able to appreciate certain aspects of the entire story arc. Gloria Monty tackled a rewrite that most producers would've never touched, during that time. GH was about to be cancelled, so there was nothing to lose. Gloria took advantage of the chemistry between TG and GF. It was up to the viewers to drink the Kool-Aid or not. Boy, did they drink it.
There were plenty of "reformed rapists" on daytime TV in the 80s. In fact, there was a TV Guide article on it called "Please Stop Making Rapists Into Heroes." It was a THING not something "no one would touch."
@@blondewriter99 Geez. I wrote my comment so long ago. Lol Ok, Interesting. I’ll have to look up the article. Thanks!
@@jennhunt1996 You won't find it online. I've been looking for it. At one point I found a picture of it but not the article itself. I remember this being a rather standard storyline on soaps at the time. Crazy.
Yep. It was a little later but Todd Manning in OLTL is another they turned into an "anti-hero" type.@@blondewriter99
It's STRANGE and SICK that her SON wants to know the DETAILS of his mother's rape....like, why does he want to know THOSE details...sickass
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@@PhilomenaRomagnoli-fv2eg Um blame the writer not the actor.
Bingo
@DawnYzag Unfortunately, those things happen in real life too. Some rape victims refuse to admit their situation was rape so marry their attackers legetimize their experience.
The way they dealt with this later undid some of the damage that was caused by putting Luke & Laura together after the rape. It doesn't seem like they ever reckoned as a couple with what happened, but just wiped it away and stuffed it down.
They did confront it much later, I don't remember if they were still married or divorced at that point, but Laura told Luke that she had wanted him back then. I felt like she was saying it was partly her fault. But I don't think she wanted him by force. There was still some lack of clarity for me in the conversation they had. There are some clips of that conversation on here, I think in 3 parts.
Answer I think is she fell in love with him before the rape but did not realize it
Doesn't condone rape.🤔
In reality that should have effected her opposite. She should have feared and hated him!
I think that's what it was too. She already had feelings for Luke despite being married and didn't know what to do. Still though, Laura didn't deserve to be raped.
Did you watch the old episodes? She didn’t love him, she barely knew him. All she did was reach out to him as a friend and he raped her. She was only 17 years old. And everybody blamed her for all of it.
@@victoriajohnson5461 Correct. She was also a married to Scotty. And still was at the time of this scene.
Jonathan Jackson,, Julie Berman, Antjony Geary, Genie Francis phenomenal actors.
I don't diminish what Luke did in the least. However, I do feel some pain for him, that he has to live it over and over again. It was a bold story for the writers to do, but I'm glad they did it because it asks hard questions. Can a person find redemption? Can one horrible mistake be forgiven? Tough things to think about...
HE has to relive it???
@@ingloriousbetch4302 Well, yeah, he does have to relive it.
@@ingloriousbetch4302 yes and she does
Thankyou sharing this
Tony and JJ did a great job. Julie was okay. I agree GV doesn't have the same chemistry with Tony.
Great edit!
It's the truth...
And the truth hurts...
I was a teenager when this event happened. The storyline was something that had never been done, and not only the writers but the actors were just suberb.
Laura forgave him years ago and while she may not have loved him at the time, Laura did feel something for Luke. So much so that she ran off with him and lived an adventure until they came back. While Luke has never forgive himself, she did. Was it rape, yes, no, maybe. Honestly, at this point I don't even know anymore and I wonder if that's a question that is meant to always have an ambiguous answer.
What a scene with Laura and Luke
My mom looked like Laura when she was younger. I think that was why I watched it whenever Genie Francis was on it.
I remember lulu told Ethan that
Because Geary was so much older than Genie and because he played a character that rapped Laura, I never liked the couple together. Their
adventures did not change my attitude.
Exactly
TG was not meant to be a regular. He was only slated for a brief s/l, but the fans fell in love with him, the same w/MB/Sonny. He was only supposed be on a few episodes, but he became known as the mobster w/a heart of gold
Yeah, I was always side-eye about their relationship too. I guess while Laura forgave him, I didn't.
I didn't really see them as a great couple, either. TG was 15 years older than Genie. She was just 17 when LnL got started, and AG was 32. TG was never comfortable with the LnL craze. He recognized and acknowledged the rape, and grew weary of going on talk shows where clips from the wedding were always
played and the couple was glorified.I can appreciate why he enjoys the privacy and freedom of living in Amsterdam. GH isn't on TV there and he's treated just like an average person. He's 76 now and his earned the right to retire in comfort because of his work on GH.
And that, kids, is how I met your mother
Luke is a son of a bitch for what he put Laura through; however, I do have to give him credit for coming out into the open and telling his kids what he did to their mother. At least he didnt throw a fit when confronted by his kids. Lucky needs to chill out
DENNIS FODOR I agree with you but we can't hardly blame him because we don't know how we would react if we were blindsided from our half sibling because it should come from our father and mother
Also they did have a lot of healing and a lot of good years together I don’t think you can focus on on day and make that the whole relationship
Why should Lucky chill out. His father raped his mother while she was a teenager and married to Scotty.
@@avanoelle2805 What good years? They married, separated, divorced. I think they got back together. I can't believe they made Laura major of PC.
@@joycepino9749 I think he was in shock in my opinion
I thought Laura said it was not rape early on in the beginning but she was never sure I guess
Then Laura confronted Luke many years later (in the mid-2000s, I think) and screamed at him something to the effect of _'You raped me!'_
*Edit:* Boy, am I bad at time perception. The 'you raped me' line happened in the late 1990s.
My god these are powerful scenes. TG in particular in the scene with Lucky. Because it's their parents, Lucky and Lulu are, of course, unable to see the complexity of the whole rape situation. Not condoning, just observing - it was never black and white, although the kids see it that way.
It sounds as if you actually are condoning the rape.
That's sick.
It's difficult to believe that rape was somehow romanticized by a soap opera and this truly wasn't that many years ago. Times have not changed very much when it comes to the way society wants to view rape.
Rape actually causes Post Traumatic Stress Disorder but many don't want to believe that. They want to blame the women in these situations and ask victim blaming questions like, "What was she wearing?" or "Why was she out late at night?"
@@ellencarroll2921 Please do not make ridiculous accusations. I'm not condoning rape at all. That interpretation is on you and you alone. I am observing and commenting on THIS PARTICULAR scene, and the powerful acting. You don't need to give me an educational lecture, which is what you are doing. Btw, I don't see you making the same accusation to all the other comments here which compliment the great acting.
@@lizlee6290 Your statement sounds like it is condoning rape. You can't deny it.
@@ellencarroll2921 That is your incorrect interpretation. I can and do deny it. By the way, have you ever heard of nuance. Do you understand the meaning of nuance? When you watch the original scene and have watched the many Luke and Laura scenes which followed, a discerning person can see that the story line was not a simple rape story. It was much more complicated and, oh yes, nuanced. The writers made it that way. Over the years since it first aired in 1979, there has been much discussion about that controversial rape story and their subsequent relationship. The post-rape story line was dreamt up because Anthony Geary became so popular with General Hospital watchers, that the powers that be wanted him to stay on the show. It wasn't originally planned that way. He was supposed to only be on for thirteen weeks. Everything that followed the rape was written for ratings and to keep Geary on the show. I guess you're okay with that? Rape/not rape for ratings is okay with you? Laura protecting her rapist from being found by the police is okay with you? You're good with Laura falling in love with her rapist? I wonder, since you seem to only see this as a black or white issue with no gray in between. To this day the story line is somewhat controversial. I mean, just look at the comments in this thread! Most people are actually able to have an interesting discussion about it. You might look into the history of the Luke and Laura relationship instead of attacking me. Projecting your feelings onto me when all I did was express admiration for the scene and the acting is interesting. You do know that we're discussing a soap opera, not real life? Also, look up projection when you look up nuance. Whatever your deal is, it seems you have a need to project your assumptions onto me. Erroneously. I'm done.
This woman likes Luke and Laura; with them I can accept it's a soap opera and as a result is fantasy. Their kids had to be so freakin confused though.
See that's whst I don't get. Who the hell would want a FANTASY of marrying your rapist?
Who’s fantasy? I don’t care what genre it is, there is always a line that shouldn’t be crossed and this was one of those times.
I have a serious question. And I'm not trying to come off shrewd or mean.
I came across a Instagram video of the song Rise by Her Alpert and one of the comments said it reminds me of Luke and Laura. I'll began looking up Luke and Laura on RUclips. I came across videos of the infamous scene "at the disco". While looking up other videos of them two, many of the comments say positive things about Luke & Laura. I never watched the show before and I'm confused as to why people "like" the "Laura & Luke" dynamic in this series. Especially after the "Disco incident". What is the fascination with Luke & Laura?? I feel like people should hate Luke.
The only answer is it was the 80s. Different time. It's not a dynamic you would see on national TV now. Now, you can go to subgenres of romance novels for "taboo" couples but back then they were out in the open. Luke wasn't the only rapist hero on TV, trust me. (child of the 80s) At one point there was a TV Guide article titled "Stop Making Rapists into Heroes" - that's how popular that kind of thing was! One of those things you just look back and shake your head. (I will say I was never a Luke & Laura fan. Scotty and Heather were my jam.)
@@blondewriter99 This has nothing to do with era it was in. Rape was wrong in the 80s too.
I can't remember all of the details but, in a nutshell, they redeemed the character or Luke and Laura essentially forgave him.
@@rachybaby72 It has everything to do with the 80s. I was THERE. Rape wasn't NOT wrong but you would not get a character like this today on a national TV show. If there is one, please point it out.
@@blondewriter99 I WAS THERE TOO. And the reaction had nothing to do with the era. The writers turned what happened into a "seduction" and people went with it, and it helped that Laura moved past it. The same thing happened with the Todd character on One Life to Live and that was definitely a rape -- and that was the 1990s -- and the character was "redeemed".
I, a child of the 80s, never really moved past it, and most people didn't deep down, but we went with it because of how they redeemed Luke. That's it in a nutshell -- and has nothing to do with the so-called "sensibilities" of the time...
@@rachybaby72 OK I'll wait here until you can point to a rapist redeemer storyline that's on now or been on national tv in the past decade.
Nice vid i miss johnathan jackson if he came back as lucky i wouldnt want elizabeth to be with jason anymore or maybe i would but the triangle would be cool to watch
Great scenes
i thought that at one time but then he said he had a live in relationship with liz taylor
Liz had many gay boy toys. Trust me, Tony is gay! He has never really said he "Slept" with Liz. He calls it an affair, but that does not always physical. He was smooth how he answered questions about Liz.
I think that's why ABC killed Luke's character off after Tony's. Gary left the show and I think that's why they won't bring back Todd since he raped. Marty on one life to live he don't want. They don't want to have a character like that on their show. That was Luke. Worst thing he ever did. Cannot defend it
I haven't watched in so long.
Laura should have told them.
Now I don't understand why Laura married Luke as I never knew about this part of the story
Go back and watch the beginning Suzzque has them all from 1980 in order and you will see why. It was the best storyline ever.
It was so well written…even KNOWING luke Raped Laura…we all fell in love with Luke and Laura…scotty Baldwin cheated on Laura with Bobby spencer…(Luke’s sister that used to be a hooker…until she went to nursing school) lol…You would have to start from the beginning…it was awesome…I watched it in the 70s and 80s lol
Ps…I can’t listen to the song “Rise” without thinking about luke and Laura lol…that’s the song that played while he raped her…to be honest…Laura had feelings for Luke…but she was married to Scotty…lol…
@@gigib.965 yeah me too. It’s the “Luke & Laura Rape” song to me. Sorry Herb Alpert 😂
@@ronswansonsdog2833 lol…Exactly…I said that on another post…some woman was like “Luke didn’t rape laura!! They’re married!!” I was like “Ok, you must be younger than me…so back to the early 80s and watch general hospital!! Lmk what ya think lol”
Why now
Why the hell does it matter to his kids what happened between their parents way before they became a couple?... their mother forgave him, fell in love with him and it’s really none of the kid’ business what happened before they became a couple and then got married!
They're just big drama queens
no woman in her right mind would marry and have children with her rapist
Bc they're gonna hear about it from others, and start asking questions.
Because he didn’t forgot her birthday or crash a car, what he did is a violent/violating crime.
It was a way for the writers to explain that what Luke did was heinous and was forgiven the most unforgivable act against another human being. By the time Luke tells Lucky, the real world was very aware of what is now called the #metoo movement and they needed to address that what Luke did was wrong.
Why on earth would you need to reveal this. None of their business!
They don't have a right to know that theur father raped their mother? That very much is their business.
Great acting................sine they sluffed the rape scene years ago....
Funny he tells kids two different stories
You have to hear the truth so you don't believe the lies
I don't even know if I know the truth
TRUE
This was when the show was good
JJ great acting ❤
Did they eventually forgive him ? I forget
Yes, she did forgive him, married him and had two children with him.
wow
I never was a Luke/Laura fan. I always refused to accept the 'rewrite' of the 'seduction of Laura'. It was rape, plain and simple. However, IF that is the way GH was going to spin it, then so be it. I don't think the rape should have been brought up again, and certainly not to the knowledge of Luke and Laura's children. Lucky is a punk. He's always so disrespectful and rude to his parents. Of course, it's Luke and Laura's own fault, because they raised him that way. GH just revisited the rape to get high drama and emotion, and lots of discussion. I am no Luke fan but I think it's unfair for him to have to explain to his children what happened long ago, that was actually spun to be a seduction. Not to mention the absolute trauma the children must have to work through. Luke was hailed Port Charles's Hero, now he's just an old, washed up rapist. I think they should have not revisited the rape.
wow, what a unlikeable and horrid character, cool writing.
Yes that perm is horrible
The only thing Luke needed to be ashamed of was his perm
And you forgot one: the rape. Luke needed to he ashamed of forcing himself sexually on a woman...
You don't think he should be ashamed for raping a teenage girl who was married. He was a skunk.
@@rachybaby72 did you actually see it happen
@@joycepino9749 if she had a problem with it she wouldn't have married him and had kids with him
@Uncle Diggie No one saw it happen.
My grandma gets annoyed with me because I refuse to acknowledge the whole Luke and Laura love thing. How the do you get hyped over a relationship that was literally built up right after Luke raped her?
Excuses for a rape.
I didn’t start watching until 2003 but I love lulu, and the new Lucky was so much better
The only real lucky for me was Jonathan Jackson ( the original) I couldn’t stand any of the other ones
Wut the hell are u going on about?
Terrible he is not the victim no excuses.
Luk 2:14 e and his sister were trash. It was a shame Laura didnt stay with Scottie. Writers made a big mistake with this.
Lol.
Was this Lucky kid gay? I don't remember...just asking.
Not at all, he married a woman 10 years his senior. She played hannah Scott on GH, daughter of Roy DiLucca, who was a friend of Luke. Hannah was a FBI informant and brief love interest for Sonny Corinthos.
No, but as a long time GH fan (late 70s) I can say Luke is gay.
@@yevettebamber4273 You are correct. I've watched GH since its debut in the early 60s.