Brexit negotiator's message to young people who will never enjoy same European freedom as him
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Lord Frost spoke to Emily on the three year anniversary of the UK leaving the EU.
She asked him what his message is to all the people who have much less freedom to work, travel and experience European culture - much as he enjoyed.
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'We are a full democracy ' he said while legislation passes through Parliament that effectively bans demonstrations and strikes.
And we have a House of Lords where 30% have inherited their peerage. ( only available to males though not females)
Democracy?
I suppose the general public are now sick of those that protest for a living and disrupt lives of ordinary people.
Not everything is a noble socialist cause.
If you could vote for your own head of state,then and only then would you be a true democracy.
They are worse than the Satan
@@gerardflynn3899 Totally correct, you cannot have a democracy with a monarchist system.
Wait a minute!!!! We helped write, and we VOTED IN FAVOUR with full knowledge and democratically. Our representatives voted in favour or against in 98% of EU votes with an abstention rate of 2%.... how can a man with such a position sit there and distort truth and history? We live in dangerous times.
Because he is unelected !
IT WAS RIGGED. and probably unlawful. Especially the great over run of "Leave" expenses. In essence buying more votes.
oh, he is a Tory, dont you know they only dont lie if they are dead!
unfortunately, he can still sit there as long as voters believe him and let him be their representative... if you vote a liar, you get a liar
Because that's how he makes his living now.
Telling lies about brexit is a career in Britain
The UK was a FULL partner in the development and institution of ALL laws that UK citizens live and work under.
sure, but dont tell them, or they will find out that they got conned by the Tories and the Tory media, inclusive the BBC!
exactly. That's the comment I couldn't get my head around. UK must have been a signatory to these laws. Unfortunately though, I believe our youth of voting age were asleep during Brexit
Even during the Brexit negotiations, the EU offered the UK retain freedom of travel for UK subjects to travel to EU countries and vice versa, but the Tories refused. They didn't want people from the EU coming to the UK. As a result UK businesses that relied upon EU workers had to shut down. Farmers had to destroy their crops. Pig farmers had to cull their swineherds for lack of EU butchers coming to the UK. The Tories shot all of the UK (except for the fabulously rich like Rishi Sunak and Tory donors) in the foot!
i will visit Scotland again, after they left the UK, not before!
I agree with you 100%.🙂👍
Actually, we all lost out, even the disaster capitalists; that’s the saddest part. The only difference is that the rich won’t feel it as much. Stupidity doesn’t care how rich you are; it’s just that the richer you are, the less likely it is that your going to care.
@@skunclep1938 Unfortunately, there isn't medication for stupidity.😡😡😡
I think you meant to say the Tories shot all of the UK in the back.
The future for this country is grim and he knows it!
But he's alright. His nest is well and truly feathered.
@@petergaskin1811 The nests of all MPs are well feathered with or without industry kickbacks that almost certainly exist for a great many of them.
Their pay is £86,584 per annum - with most expenses like London housing and transport to and from their constituency paid for by the taxpayer on top of their salary.
Multiply that by 5 years per term and add in some expenses skimmed off the top, then add some industry kickbacks to stay away from talking about x, or to talk up y in Westminster and you can begin to see how an MP could make themselves very, very rich.
That's even before you get into stock market manipulation strategies.
A single 5 year term spent wisely could probably give you a very solid early retirement plan.
Two 5 year terms augmented with stock trades could take you to a point financially where you could walk away from work entirely for life and live the rest of it very comfortably even from your mid/late 30s.
I am 44 and lived and worked in both France and Spain - worked on campsites in france and did a Erasmus year as part of my business degree. Some of my best memories were had during those experiences - I learnt both languages and made many friends - really sad we have rejected the freedom of movement privilege - and to effectively make trading with our neighbours more difficult is just madness.
And the thing that really irritates me is that the freedom of movement for those who have money has not really been effected as they can buy themselves visas- it’s the common worker who has really lost out….contrary to what frost says,
it’s almost impossible as a Brit to work in the EU now…worst decision for a generation, Brexit
There is no freedom to work now.
Not to mention all of the EU funded work projects young students can still embark upon in Europe, especially in humanitarian and environmental projects, people actually getting paid for work Britons will now have to fully fund for themselves, completely closing that door.
More than sad, its generational travesty created by a campaign of lies and deceipt...
I too share precious memories of a post-grad summer school spent in Denmark for my MBA with emotions now constantly vacillating between sadness and rage.
Don't lie! I work in the EU, and it was peezy. I worked in Canada and the US, which was a little more difficult but doable. Money has always been an issue, if you don't have any then you can't travel, open borders or not. I believe every country in the EU will grow tired of the unelected Commission in Brussels, and the weak parliament who cream millions in pay and expenses. Once the weaker member states become net contributers, you watch them pull out. And the watch Russia determine the future of the EU as the pressure grows, which it will. Watch all the remoaners catch a sudden bout of the Britania virus then. Slime the lot of em!
@@michealrcnicholson9342 omg. Change the record...
It makes me furious that Boris has had no repercussions from destroying the country he wasn't even born in, for a laugh and so he could feel big.
Yes, what a hoot! Johnson born in New York City, of American and English parents, his Great Grandfather was born in Istanbul, in those days, Constantinopol
@@davidmichaels8934 You guys have some issues, why're you europeans so obessed with peoples background... Ultra ego i guess lol
@@haliltemizkan8184 thanks for the reply, you really have no idea of the permanent damage done to Britain have you, not only economic damage but social damage, we have families that are not speaking to each other because of Brexit, friends for years that now are NOT friends! All this because of the Conservative Party in government that did not want to have to reveal ALL their wealth, yes, that's what Brexit is about, hiding wealth, so they will not have to pay tax on it!
@@davidmichaels8934 You have to move on majority voted to leave, this's how democracy works... Do you Iran is so happy to live in autocracy? Ofc no lol but that was there free choice, you live with the concecusence mate grow up!
and David Cameron.
Today I spent 3 hours crossing the border between Thailand and Laos, and whilst the ASEAN queue went through much quicker, it was nowhere near the same as in the EU - where sometimes you didn't know you'd crossed the border until the language on the signposts changed. Brexit is a tragedy on so many levels, and the people responsible for it should pay a price.
B/strads like Farage and Bozo and the Ingerland sheep. Dumber than dumb gammons!
the British voters are responsible for Brexit and are now paying a full price for their decision
but be happy, that the Brits are out, if you are from the EU...i am happy and in the EU!
I feel desperately sorry that the ability to travel freely around the globe is your idea of a tragedy. The very fact that you can afford such travel speaks volumes.
@@mick947 i dont feel sorry for the Brits standing in line with the African people, the Brits voted for it, the Africans are just born at the wrong place!
Zero tangible benefits, lots of downsides and the plan for growth boils down to wishful thinking. Brilliant
It's criminal what's gone on and people should never forget and never forgive cos I don't see any justice being administered.
@@danielcraig4974 They have stolen the prosperity of this country and overseen the largest fall in our standard of living EVER! and now are happily swigging champagne while they pontificate on which of their wonderful Brexit benefits (there are none) they should taunt us with. Should all be in prison.
Get a grip. Get rid of the Davos graduates and things will change. Back to collecting stamps on your passport. I never realised how much I missed that. Stamped by a human and not a machine. Wonderful. Oh, didn’t you know, you are being replaced by A I lots of it about here in the eu.
Nigel Farage, the neofascist goon and Boris Johnson the disheveled buffoon should be made accountable for this fiasco !
@@darshansingh4375 well, the way I see it is, those that feel that brexit was wrong can always find their up topic elsewhere. As it has been proved, the doors on our borders are not locked. I would vote brexit again. The problem was and. Still is, that the politicians on the corrupt gravy chain didn’t want it to stop.
"A bit more complicated" if you want to work in the EU! Do these people think we are all idiots?
Yes they do.
yes they do, and a large swathe of the public keep proving them correct.
They do, and with some justification. Don't forget it was a British majority decision with the consequences well known by anybody with an IQ above that of rhubarb. Go figure.
@@thomaskaminski5611 Rhubarb would be offended by that statement.
@@G7VFY Only the rhubarb growing around Oxford and Hogwarts. Barely 1%.
Freedom to go down the drain. Great !
Yes , it's much more democratic now that the tories ALONE decide on new laws. Take as an example: cutting the rights of workers to strike!
Do these tories actually believe their own lies????
Exactly this, we lose one thin line of protection and now they can change laws for the worse with impunity, no protest no strikes and nowhere to run
😠 They do because they exist in the Westminster echo chamber.
much ,more democratic. we've even had 2 unelected prime ministers this year!
Emily is spot on. The unanswered question still is: what and/or which problem did Brexit actually solve that could not have been solved as a member state within the EU???
The impeding fire sale of the NHS and every other public asset that isn't sold yet. You ain't seen nothing yet...
Tories and donors to avoid tax.
Watch & learn.
At what point was She spot on ? As far as i can see She lied about everything
It meant Tories stopped their membership leaking to Ukip and thereby losing an election.
"And obviously you can't end freedom of movement into the UK without the rest of the EU doing the same for us." I can't remember brexiteers stating that in 2016.
So speaking as a German, You thought you would get your cake and eat it did you? I`m so glad it didn`t turn out like that!
Indeed, they needed us more than we needed them..... apparently.....
You still have freedom of movement with 1 EU member state.
It's the one that Britain lives next door to.
The common travel area which pre-dates the EU,EEC,UN,NATO etc
Because ending freedom of movement does not end movement, it just means you have to go through a procedure. This is deeply traumatic for some of the young who now have to pre plan more and sign an extra document.
Of course you can..........
Brexit was an exercise in ideology over pragmatism. We have been trading with continental Europe for thousands of years. Geographically, it makes sense! So why not have a trading arrangement that smooths trade, not one that erects barriers?
We live in Germany. My daughter got to go to Maastricht under Erasmus in 2021. It was super easy and a great experience for her.
We live in the U.K. but have EU passports. My son wants to study in Germany when he grows up. And I’m so incredibly happy he can still do that.
This is exactly my beef with the loss of freedom of movement I married a Dutch girl 50 years ago and have lived in the Netherlands ever since I now 7 grandchildren the eldest is 17 and wants to be an English teacher She would love to live for a year in the uk to master the language and the way of life etc but this privilege has been taken away from her This to me is is the worst situation even more so than not being able to take sausage bacon and black pudding back with me when I visit my country of birth
What a devastating position you and your family have been put it in, its catastrophic...............
She could always try Ireland, as an alternative to England.
Would they be able to apply for a visa to live and work in the UK?
@@delgray1442 I am sure you can but the path to do so is tough and costly might just as well go to Ireland
@davidtrigg1485 so that's what it boils down to. Money. The process would be the same if applying to live and work in the US for example. If they want to live and work in the UK they will do what they can to make it happen.
He’s come a long way down from the sunlit uplands and joyful sovereignty we were promised!
Sovereign tea
Frost called Brexit 'economic madness' in 2016 but a peerage and a job in government changed that opinion.
There were benefits of brexit. For the EU.
Politicians will lie to exhaustion…..will sell their soul ….they will never say I was wrong…..
In other words they are all Narcissists
He was asked what would he say to all those people that lost the right to work, rest and play, as and however they like in the EU, and his reply was to essentially say, "lump it, it's what we voted for".
Frost is simply an utterly Shameless and Despicable Shyster. and I hope he really IS hurt by every nasty and aggressive reply on Twitter, because he clearly deserves every single one of them.
Nick 'simply an utterly shameless and despicable Shyster'. you are giving him far too much credit here, he is also not very intelligent either!
Spoken like a true communist dictator.
@@richardwills-woodward5340 No, the Communists then sent people to the Gulags, whereas the Fascists sent people to Concentration Camps, - so which one are YOU ?
@@tomsdaddy Communists are fascists. National socialism. Your comment above and your use of language tells me you certainly fall into this category, today known as Woke.
@@richardwills-woodward5340
Go and read a Book Richard, you'll do us all a favour.
The UK was central to drawing up many (if not most) EU regulations AND had a veto. Using Frost's logic, we'd also withdraw from NATO but we don't, of course, because there's strength in numbers - just as in negotiating EU trade deals from which we're now excluded.
There is never anything specific in the answers of Brexiteers. It’s always „You voted, get over it.“ or „The future is going to be bright, trust me bro!“
UK will come crawling back. Funny no one seems to remember what this country was like before joining the EU because this is exactly where the UK is going: the sick man of Europe....
Nonsense. The 1960s was a glorious decade in Britain’s history. Music, football, new inventions, the list goes on and on.
Britain is already a sick man of Europe, and we can thank Tory government for it. 😡😡😡
saying its no more complicated than going to work in the US or Australia completely ignores the fact that it is quite complicated to go and work in those countries and by no means open to all
I'm surprised these people still don't need 24/7 protection, considering the futures of the young people's lives they have ruined.
And on top of that they've done more damage to this country than the Luftwaffe ever did. How he can just sit there, not realising the books that will be written painting him and other ERGers black for all eternity, is amazing.
So what lives has it ruined exactly, the privileged middle class young living off bank of mum & dad? …..most ‘young people’ did not have the means or opportunity to travel in Europe, still don’t, spare a thought for them!
I believe it’s coming. They’ll be looking over there shoulders
It’s now affected the middle classes and their layers of protection are disappearing fast and will soon need to be very cautious of where they go
He definately is in danger, along with several others, you can see it in many other online places.
@@niknoks7638 What middle class? Doesn't seem like there's a whole lot left of it
What a depressed future Frost and Brexit are giving to the next generation.
But think of all the tax they're not paying, that's all that matters to these crooks and liars.
Freedom to hire and fire your lawmakers is a depressing future? Generations fought for it, British lives were lost freeing Europe from the alternative with little thanks.
but only the British,
inside the EU, after extension to other countries, we have even more places to go or work...
future looks bright, the UK just goes back to the 18th century...with their fear Napoleon will invade them!
but this time his name is Hassan and he got his wife and 3 children with him!
@@CHUTNEX heads on spikes time methinks
So he'll be all for Scottish independence then?
You are forgetting Irish and Welsh.
No, apparently all the arguments that went up for Brexit are all of a sudden nul and void when it comes to Schotland. Very strange. They are not even allowed a referendum. Welcome to a true democratic country
@@theressomelovelyfilthdownh4329 We Irish have had our independence for the last 101yrs.
I think that you mean Northern Ireland.
He's not.
He wants the UK as a unitary state
@@theressomelovelyfilthdownh4329Wales voted to leave the European Union. That’s just a little detail that Remoaners like to “forget”
David Frost is incorrect when he says 'we've a bright future ahead of us' -surely what he meant to say was 'we've a bright future BEHIND us.'???
No he just means the select few that have profited from it not the vast majority looking at a dead NHS, no disposable income.
A bright future ahead of us, which is only marginally worse than that of Russia 🤷♂
Ohh no sir he is very correct ! The question we should be asking him is whose WE ?
I think the We meant the rich only.
By "us" he means himself and his chums. The rest of the hoi polloi already did their job by voting brexit
This guy used to be a die hard European, what a disgrace......its so much more complicated for UK citizens to move to EU now, and from a recruitment perspective, why would employers go through all the hassle of extra administration vs employing an EU citizen.
Top work though Emily Maitlis !!
There are few reasons and opportunities for Brits in Europe. The people working in Europe were in the low tens of thousands. The people coming from the EU to the UK were (and are) in the millions. Just get your head around that and ask yourself why.
@@richardwills-woodward5340 Im not sure what you mean, can be a bit more specific? I lived in the Netherlands from 2009 - 2022 and there were loads of Brits. There are actually less opportunities in EU for Brts now because Brexit has made it more difficult to move there.
@@alistairrobinson3865 You basically lived in the Netherlands to for 13yrs and never thought of applying for Dutch citizenship?
Which means that as an EU citizen you would have had thorough freedom of movement throughout the entire EU post Brexit.
He just sounds like a Tory mouthpiece
@@ianmuir3640 What else would he be ?
Anecdotal story. When one of mine was training to be a chef. The EU paid all flights and accomodation expenses and gave a small daily living allowance for them to travel to Italy twice to gain experience in cooking. Invaluable experience entirely paid for by the EU. Needless to say that's all stopped. Just one person's experience multiplied thousands of times.....
2:32 “full democracy” - that’s why we make any protests/display of displeasure with the government a prison sentence, like in China and Russia, the other full democracies.
One must not forget that those student's parents and grandparents are also to blame for making it MUCH harder for their children/grandchildren going forward in addition to delivering a staggering economic blow to the UK for which it may never recover.
Brexit has nothing to do with the economy. Covid and truss and her side kick hunt caused most of the problem with there policies which caused panic and the markets reacted then in come sunak .
How you started your reply suggest your a snob anyway. Other than that, how has it got to do with parents and grandparents to blame for the mess. You should try looking further into the banking crash of 2008 and the eye watering money that was lost, who was involved. It changed the way money was lent and made it near impossible then as it is now to get a mortgage. We also now have to issue of corrupt greedy politicians. Billionaires and
Millionaires sitting on their stack, racking even more in (probably by corrupt methods at that) and putting absolutely sod all back out. 😡
Perhaps they had 50 years of experience of the common market/eec/e.u and decided it was best to leave.
@@nudgenudgewinkwink3212 Or perhaps they got gaslit by a bunch of self-interested, liars who promised them a world they knew could never be delivered, simply because they didn't a law that would require them to declare the billions squirreled away in off-shore accounts and could have entirely changed the status quo between the ultra-rich and the rest of us.
@@nudgenudgewinkwink3212 ROFL. Best for whom?
Great job Emily, brilliant journalists seem to be rare these days.
I agree !
Beware the crossed Arms, - if you see those, - RUN ! 🤣🤣
Yeah you're right but she's not one of them.
You what, she went in totally biased pushing her own opinion forward while lacking balance throughout, she is not interviewing here she is arguing her own views, that is bad interviewing.
Yes regression it is
What law did you not agree with frosty? Never seem to identify any.
I'm looking forward to our regaining sufficient powers of self-determination to Rejoin the EU ... ! And I want a Poster of his Face when we do !
He didn’t like the law that allowed free movement, apparently.
Whilst we have unelected house of lords we are not in a full democracy
Which parts of a 'constitutional monarchy', a 'king' and 'lords' in government did you miss?
Think i missed the constitution bit.
@@thomaskaminski5611
Exactly his point: the UK is not a full democracy.
Who elected Frost to negotiate with the EU?...
But this clown Frost, dares to talk about democracy in the EU...
A complete hypocrite.
@@guleiro Who elected Charles? Elizabeth? George? Edward? A 'Democracy' dating back to 1707... Feeling empowered yet? But relax, even in the USA the minority frequently accepts the loser as president. Kind of ironic that the guy claiming he was robbed of his second term (Trump) didn't even have a majority the first term. Makes smart people wonder.
Try living in the north of Ireland, Wales, or Scotland. None of which voted Tory, yet they have an eighty seat majority. And are using that majority to destroy the lives of people in countries they are politically dead in. The rot goes a lot deeper than the House of Lords.
I share Emily's frustration and bemusement with Frost, who, at the end of the day, was just paid to be the executor. His opinion has no merit but that was never the point.
Especially with his cushy non existent job in the House of Lords.
@@gerardflynn3899 but he's the only one that will face a great reporter/broadcaster willing to talk about it 98% in the Lord's wanted to remain where are your mates apart from trying to stop a decision made by the majority.
He was also an unelected bureaucrat - you know, like the ones he warned us about in the EU
Frost was a very incompetent negotiator. He couldn't successfully negotiate Boris's oven ready deal, so he left. Suddenly, he became an expert in EU laws, but really he doesn't have a clue. 🙂👍
This country is ruined 😡 now forever because of Brexit 🙈
Which country is that? You do know there are three, and part of Ireland. Only one of which gave the Tories an eighty seat majority.
Go and live in an eu country then. Maybe Bulgaria or Latvia.
@@paulhank7967
Brexit killed that chance.
@@BewareOfTheKraut
Why?
@@BewareOfTheKraut
Over 6.5 million eu citizens stayed here in the UK.
I worked overseas twice with no problems at all. This has now been denied to younger people. And immigration is up!
Nonsense. Fantasy.
@@richardwills-woodward5340 Actually there are more people from Britain leaving the country and moving to live in the EU
Than the other way around.
@@gerardflynn3899 Factually incorrect. You are letting emotion dictate a fantasy view of the world.
Mr Frost keeps on gaslighting. When the UK was a member of the EU it had a say to each and every EU law as all decisions were made unanimously. No consent from the UK resulted in no decision at all then. So all EU laws, rules and regulations were approved by the UK, there was nothing forced to the UK without its consent and in fact many of them were initiated by the UK government.
So the UK had NO SAY in law making whilst being a member ? She had NO VETO ???
Pull the other one, Mr Frost !
The politics of spite from people who never would have taken advantage of FOM or understood its value but happily took it away from others, shameful.
We did have a say on our laws.
Of course we did, another lie cynically thrown out to the clueless who would never think to check the truth of anything they're told.
Tell that to countries like Hungary and Poland who have been fined or had funds withheld when they didn't do what Brussels told them.
@@annebeignatborde1832 if you can’t make a coherent argument it really is best to stay Schtum.
@@annebeignatborde1832 every club and organisation has rules and regulations that it follows. We as a country played a major part in the formulation of those rules. The EU was and is by far a more democratic institution than the U.K. is or ever was.
@@nichotto that's funny. Jean Claude Juncker said that the EU couldn't be democratic.
France and other countries had a référendum on the Maastricht treaty. France voted no so it was repackaged as the Lisbon treaty and there was not another referendum. Very democratic!
We’ve become a little inconsequential Country.
Full sovereignty is a ridiculous utopia. We saw how much freedom and sovereignty the UK had when Truss tried to cut taxes....the markets forced a U-turn. The UK still has to adhere to WHO rules etc...
How about the UK having as much sovereignty as New Zealand has? Do you think that is achievable?
2:19 This is BS because we had a huge say in the EU laws that applied to us. In fact a fair few of those originated from the UK government itself.
Frost should be embarrassed to sit there and saying what he’s saying in the full knowledge that he helped enact a tragedy on our younger generations. Despicable 😡
I love that the guy states that working in europe post brexit are as easy as it is to migrate to the US and Australia...2 notoriously difficult countries to migrate to lol.
Erasmus? They dropped it because it sounded too European.
Such a shame for university students.
i am australian and the denial of the damage done by lying brexiteers done to britain is monumental.
even i could see what a con job brexit was, the smartest thing britain could do is rejoin, it's not like a country loses it's character when it joins the EU.
britain should swallow it's pride and rejoin, things were obviously better in than out, look at all the hassle and lose of small businesses, the youth of britain have been robbed and they are limited in there outlook too !!!
The final decision whether or not the UK can (re)join will be made by the EU. When the last Brexiter has died.
Positively medieval.Keep the serfs at home.
You insult your own history when you say the above.
The UK can not rejoin the EU because at least one and probably many EU members will reject the UK. Basically the UK is now an isolated island in the north Atlantic with no natural resources (they were sold off long ago), no industrial base because of asset stripping by the wealthy owners and an uneducated workforce because the wealthy class refused to pay adequate taxes. The English investors refuse to invest in the UK and outside investors know there is nothing worth investing in. So no resources and no money to rebuild the economy means a terrible future for anyone stuck in the UK.
@@jimpad5608 No natural resources, except oil, coal, gas, lithium, cobalt, gold, silver, aggregates, copper and so on. The industrial base was stripped due to cheap labour in the EU and belligerent socialist unions. Top 10% pay 50% of all taxes. The top 1% pay 30% of all taxes. What are the rest doing? Not enough is the answer! Lazy sods that only moan. They should be grateful instead of demanding more. It might surprise you to know the UK is the second largest recipient of foreign direct investment in the world. Sorry to disappoint you.
It's in the hands of people who want to trade with us, so let's take Australia and New Zealand, they are very willing to trade with us on their terms, which, so strange, don't benefit us at all. You have chopped off our hands and our feet, so, I reckon our chances are just brilliant, thank you so much.
I'll bet Lord Frost has no trouble going to the EU when he wants.
We will do whatever we can to keep him out
It's depressing for youth, so true.
it was deppressing for youth in the 70s and 80s
He was on PM this afternoon, he told the same lies there but was allowed to get away with most ofit. His theme seemed to be that it’s not as bad as everyone said it would be and a 4% drop in GDP is a mere scratch.
Yes I agree he wasn’t challenged at all by the BBC interviewer, no wonder Ms Maitless left. Maybe a scratch to people wealthy enough to ride out the 4% drop in GDP what did we do to deserve such fools
@@evertonfrancis640 What did you do? Well let`s start by saying `You voted for them´ and go from there!.
Hoping as always to fool the uninitiated.Yes lies.
It is to somebody as rich as him.
@@jellybean8167 Except that Frost is an Unelected waste of space in the House of Lords.
It is very hard for a brazilian to understand the Brexit situation , but, as we have made our own mistakes in the last few years I shall not pass judgement. But It has indeniably hurt the UK economy and limited young people prospects.
Well done Emily 🙏
I'm English and have lived in the EU for 30 years. When I moved here, I was treated immediately as a fellow European, I had NO immigration forms to fill in, no work visas / green cards to apply for (and then frequently renew), the adjustments I made in my life were the same for any other citizen of my new country. My employer put me into the health and social security systems, end of story. The bureaucracy was so minimal as to be almost non-existent, like a visit to the doctor for a sprained ankle. All gone, dear countrymen, because you wanted to keep out us Europeans.
Like so many brits working outside the UK, I was denied a vote by the useless Cameron government ( postal ballots never arrived). To hear Lord Frost say we voted for all this still makes my blood boil.
I agree but don’t call him
LORD!
I think the UK economy will shrink to a balance that matches its economy, and it feels like one of the biggest contractions will be in financial services.
Already happening
That is why the UK's financial services industry has pulled further ahead of the EU's since 2016 is it? Interesting.
The UK economy will match the small minds of those that voted Brexit
@@gorgu08 Global minds unlike the small EU minds of the Customs Union.
@@richardwills-woodward5340 lol! We’ve lost 25% to the eu already
The liars are never going to stop lying
Unless you as a voter stop them
It’s a lot more harder to work in the EU. It’s complicated to work in Australia, Canada, the USA, and now it’s harder for Europe.
If you subject yourself to EU laws that you dont have a say in setting?? We voted for over 97 percent of laws and had a veto! I am so sad that they young have lost these freedoms and chances to improve their lives with nearly free education in many cases and work. Not only the Young lost out but the old with a dream to retire. His message to the British people? You voted for it, TUFF!
Indeed, your goverment had the reputation of beeing a very tough negotiatior, and not to be afraid to use your veto.
Not that things had gotten easier since you left, but GB has been a pain in the *ss for a lot of people for a lot of time, and this people think that we are better of without the UK in the EU, and that giving UK a hard time, will disencourage other people from choosing the same path.......
Fact is, our only choiche right now is to try to be the best possible neighbours that we can, but truth is, the more access you want to our market, finances, and territory, the more you will have to adhere not only to the same regulations you have rejected and voted against, but also to any new regulations we release in the future, in wich you will have no saying and no influence.......
And this can be a hard pill to swallow........
Well said. In the years between 1996 and 2014, 34,177 laws were enacted by Parliament, of which 29,591 had nothing to do with the EU. There were an additional 4,514 which were subject to an EU directive, roughly 75% of which we had developed and pushed for. And then there was a total of 72 laws, regulations and directives (about 1.6% of the EU total) which we voted against, most of which covered failures by the UK Government to enforce existing laws, regulations and directives.
What Frost doesn't seem to realise is that by agreeing to rules we get huge benefits from it.
they created some of those rules.
The UK was a very influential MS
We are now treated as the Romanians were.
No. We do not. Our goods trade deficit opened up the moment we joined, from parity for centuries to £100 billion by the time we left. That is the working class middle class that were destroyed by cheap labour, making a chunk of Britain poorer by design. Meanwhile, our services sector was shut out of the EU despite our payments because they knew we'd beat their markets in this sector. So there never was a single market for the UK - it never existed. Further, it is less than 5% of British companies that export to the EU, and of those, most trade was with larger firms. Most GDP in a country is still domestically generated despite the hype in the world's social media accounts.
@@richardwills-woodward5340 Who paid the Europeans lower wages? British bosses, the same ones who encouraged you to vote to leave, because those nasty eastern Europeans were asking to be paid a full British wage. Those bosses knew there would be a labour shortage when the Poles, Romanians etc upped sticks and the government after a while will allow them to get cheap labour from outside the EU. Remember we use to get our cheap labour from Ireland and the West Indies, and you didn't like that either.
So glad to hear his full throated support for casting off the shackles of Scotland's constrained democracy by supporting independence.
Frost is not correct. We have lost a great deal by leaving the EU. We are now excluded from our main trading partner. The future outside the EU is dim.
he'd probably say "up the RA" if you gave him £80.......
As a summary:'we made the peasants life harder so that they will be motivated to work harder for us, the rich sheits'. AND RHEY VOTED FOR IT!!! 😂😂
2:07 “it is possible to solve the small boat problem if we wished too!”
They have no intention of solving the problem!
The nasty horrible French have suggested we set up an office in France where we could start the process. Looks like an asylum seeker....here is your for the Eurostar. Looks like a economic migrant willing to work (Irish Sunak said we had a shortage of workers) .....here is your ticket for the ferry. Two very safe routes.
It will mean the French won't have lots of makeshift camps along their coast line. Northern France has a very nice coast line since the Germans left in 1944.
The sale of rubber boats sadly would decline.
The smuggler gangs would have to find another criminal activity as there is no profit in sending empty rubber boats out to sea.
See simples....hold on the French suggested it "We are British and have a plan of our own but won't tell anyone".
Like Neville Chamberlain he's hardly going to say, "I came back with a bad deal".
He's more likely to say Brexit will be delivered a "piece at a time".
If frost had been negotiating the appeasement deal, we would say that getting rid of the Nazi's became "only a bit more complicated" 🤣🤣
Is that over a period of 100yrs?
The difference being that by accounts that aren't just Winston Churchill fanfiction, Chamberlain knew what he was doing and was buying time for a woefully underprepared Britain to re-arm before entering the war, and was just smeared by opportunists. While Frost seems to be exactly the kind of figure Churchill painted Chamberlain as for his own political gain...
@@JakeStaines Who gave Chamberlain the right to sell parts of Czechoslovakia to "buy" anything?
None of Czechoslovakia was his to sell.
Frost and Westminster signed up to the deal.
@@noelpucarua2843 not suggesting Chamberlain was any kind of hero; just that he also wasn't the naïve idiot that he was painted as post-war, or a corrupt chancer personally profiting off of his behaviour. Regardless of whether it was his place (or that of France, or Italy) to 'sell' any of Czechoslovakia, his actions were - so far as modern historians can tell, at least - done in the best interests of his country, despite the personal cost to his own political career. While Frost's were done in the best interests of his political career, despite the cost to his country.
A large amount of what is now law in the EU was actually instigated by the UK before the Brexit thing.
By Europhiles that despised the UK. They are one people united by a desire for a socialist European superstate in decline. Nothing worse the fifth columnists. They are the hardest to beat.
Undermining of the labour market through freedom of movement was lovely, especially for young people. It's was wonderful.
Gibberish, dear boy. Pure gibberish.
I hate this guy after he announced the deal he negotiated and recommended is a bad deal. Nothing but wishful thinking comes from him and his ilk, never anything practical.
The lies and impudence never end. We never voted to end freedom of movement- that was not on the ballot.
2:17 when the UK was an EU member, British MEP's and Commissioners contributed to shape and pass legislation. Post Brexit Britain unilaterally continues to accept EU standards by not checking EU imports.
What a loathsome person he is 🤨
I'm 12 years in UK, finished uni here, having my own company for 6 years, a house and a car. My son is in High Shool. Yet, still I'm waiting for settled status... Things changed and immigrants are treated worse than ever. I considered Scotland my home. I'm thinking of coming back to Poland once my son finish education.
"We can set all our laws" - like removing the bonus cap for bankers and banning strikes.
And being part of the EU will prevent that?
@@manofculture584 There is a right to strike under EU law...and the EU has capped banker bonuses.
Frost - like all the Tories nowadays - is flat-out lying to your faces.
"We voted to end freedom of movement" he says.
But if you voted in 2016 you'll remember what was written on the ballot paper : "Leave the European Union".
That's all it said.
No details about "hard" or "soft" Brexit.
You didn't vote to end Freedom of Movement, but there's Lord Frost saying you did.
What did you think voting to leave the EU was about? Stop trying so hard to be obtuse
So why is the UK government so keen to push membership of the Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP) which is just like the EU with their restrictions but with no say in the rules imposed.
It is not like in the EU because in the EU rules are made up by representatives of all member states
@@renebosselaar2198 Exactly, we would have less say in the CPTPP about rules we would have to follow than in the EU.
The UK government no longer has to abide by European health and safety rules, working hours, pay etc. After all, they are now making it illegal for workers to strike over these very same issues. This country is truly broken and it scares me to grow old here.
And yet Brexiters were constantly moaning of how having an open border allowed foreign workers come and drive down wages.
Masterful journalism. If only there were more like Emily in our pitifully acquiescent UK media.
What a waste of space he is! Brexit has been a disaster.
The bottom line: Brexit was always about the UK filthy rich avoiding taxation. That's it.
We don’t determine our own future. Before Brexit we had a voice in the EU Now we are a third country. The only benefit, Scotland will become independent, and will rejoin Europe, and northern Ireland will be reunited with Ireland, wether unionists like it or not.
The UK left the EU NOT Europe, get it right.
Someone should explain to this guy the House of Lords if he’s worried about being a full democracy
Germany is currently overhauling its social policy, and as far as I know it is in the EU.
And paying for everyone else's.
@@richardwills-woodward5340 Funny, until 2016 it was the UK paying for everything in the EU. That's why the EU was going to collapse in two years, right?
It’s in our own hands to change our minds if we so wish anyone fancy a new vote
If they've any sense they won't have us back. Think they want the likes of Farage back as an MEP?
Bring it on 🙂👍
I live in Dorset. I wonder if Frost would support independence from the UK for us? We could set our own laws, and have our future in our own hands.
The part that I've not seen addressed is "yes, we voted for it, but we were lied to the whole way". I feel that very few people would vote for Brexit if they had a clue what would actually happen.
There is certainly a lot of people who would not have voted for it if they had known the government would then spend years doing everything they could not to leave!
I think that, if we had referendum now, people would vote to remain. Decision would be based purely on facts not on fairytale. 🙂👍
@@simonjones2240You got all you wanted: severe trade barriers, loss of freedom of movement and getting rid of EU workers. Still not happy?
Frost continues to tell Lie after Lie and the Muppets still believe him.
Frosts smug face says it all he is like a second hand car salesman he pockets the money and doesn’t care if the car doesn’t go further than out of sight and if it’s comes back he says you bought it sorry
He said "We were subject to laws we had no part in writing". He seems to have forgotten the part played by thousands of UK MEPs and parliament's incorporation of these laws into the UK statute book. Where's he been all this time?
What is even worse is that so many Brits believe this nonsense and do not bother to investigate if they are correct
The English and Welsh voted to leave. Scotland and Northern Ireland did not.
Indeed and I fear that sadly the Brexit result will break up the UK in my lifetime 😔
@@Fernweh1965 Personally I would like to see Wales become an independent nation and join the EU following in the Irish Republic's footsteps. But I can genuinely sympathise with people such as yourself whose belief in a UK where the Union is voluntary and one of equals is a sincerely held view. However there is hope for you. Should Labour win the next general election, Starmer is committed to reshaping that Union in order to preserve it so it may not fall apart just yet.
Many English and Welsh voted to remain (millions) and many Scots and Northern Irish voted to leave. You have to accept that a large number of your compatriots voted a different way than you and are therefore partly responsible for the result. I suppose what I really wanted to say is shut the f*ck up. The constant whining over how Scotland voted has been tedious for quite some time, and it achieves absolutely f*ck all. Focus your attention on an achievable goal; anything else is a waste of time and energy.
@@gio-oz8gf Apart from your basic lack of manners (personally I blame the parents), let's just remember some basics of democracy. In a vote, where millions of people might take part, it is the majority that wins. So In England, the majority voted to leave. In Wales, the majority voted to leave. So, as a Welshman, I recognise that my compatriots wanted to leave the EU so that is the vote that should prevail. However the rest of your post reveals a profound ignorance of political issues within the UK which is commensurate with your inability to keep a civil tongue in your mouth. The cause is democracy and there is no way that anyone is going to keep quiet about what the voters of Scotland want until they get it.
As for apparent achievable goals, Brexit was supposed to be achievable. Look how that turned out.
@@rhobatbrynjones7374 Thanks for your well worded reply. The Brexit result broke my heart. I'm from Scotland but have also lived in England, I have family there. My brother in law is Welsh, my grandparents are from RoI. I have traveled extensively throughout mainland Europe and loved everything about it. I felt connected and have been welcomed everywhere. Now I feel that connection has been broken and I'm ashamed of my country for isolating itself and of how it's now viewed around Europe. I firmly believe Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland will leave the UK in the next 20 years....heartbreaking
Not so long ago Britain was looked upon as a world leader. Now it’s just a sad broken isolated fiefdom.
Part of me we would stop giving these people the oxygen of publicity. He and his fellow Brexiters have stolen so much from our children and grand children as well as us I am sure they will eventually become pariahs.
I would suggest put them in full spotlight proving their lies by competent interviewers
Men like Frost make me seethe with anger. Brexit was never about democracy; it was about freeing British politicians and their millionaire backers from pesky EU regulations that protect people like us from them. So that the corruption and the money-laundering and the tax evasion can all go on without consequences. They all need to be held accountable.
Give me ONE example of how Brexit has helped me as an individual. I blame the British voters. The Tories just do what they’ve always done.
We were rule makers while we were in the EU, now we are rule takers with no say. Anyway we have to follow the EU rules as the whole world follows the EU rules, especially EU trade standards. Everyone wants to trade with the EU and sees the EU as a model. Brexiteers will struggle more and more to defend their growing fiasco
I get wanting to hold people like Frost's feet to the fire, they're liars and gaslighters. However, I look forward to never having to give their nonsense oxygen ever again.
In Northern Ireland the desire to get back into the EU has meant young people are looking at the need for a united Ireland.