Firesole vs M6 - 20 YEAR DRIVER TEST!

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  • Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024

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  • @eduardobohrer4949
    @eduardobohrer4949 2 года назад +6

    Not sure you helped decide whether to upgrade an old driver but you made me feel better about not hitting the fairway

  • @allenwalker9412
    @allenwalker9412 5 лет назад +47

    The color is copper and I loved it back in the day

  • @ZING-oj6zi
    @ZING-oj6zi 2 года назад +3

    I just picked up a Firesole on ebay for $46 including shipping. This thing is pretty much brand new, original grip and headcover, both in pristine condition. I would say it had to be hit less than 10 times. Very few marks on the clubface. Used to be my fav driver, cant believe I found a basically new one so many years later!

  • @josephdurkin8180
    @josephdurkin8180 4 года назад +4

    I was given a free set of clubs this year, I haven't played in 6 years. My clubs are the 1998 taylor made lcg full set. Bubble shaft of the woods and steel shaft on the irons. I LOVE THEM

    • @MayorBrownn
      @MayorBrownn 2 года назад

      My grandpa used these. He was an amazing golfer and passed away recently. I was gifted his golf clubs and have just started using them recently. I’m glad to hear you enjoy them and I look forward to using them more

  • @chyanfrancisco4818
    @chyanfrancisco4818 5 лет назад +7

    As Ed Taylor said in the comments, I would also love to see you use clubs/drivers from 1999, 2004, 2009, 2014 and 2019 to see the gradual progression

  • @crubie74
    @crubie74 5 лет назад +3

    The Firesole was my first "big" golf purchase when I was starting out. Honestly loved it, and remember thinking how huge the head was...

  • @gmwilliams4314
    @gmwilliams4314 5 лет назад +8

    This was a Fantastic Post! The Firesole brought back some great memories of when me and my closest friends first fell in Love with the Game 🤜🤛

  • @joeperez3520
    @joeperez3520 5 лет назад +14

    First TM driver released after the original Ti Bubble and Ti Bubble 2 (which I still have in the closet). The "Burnt Copper" color of those heads was much more appealing.

  • @adblefty
    @adblefty 5 лет назад +15

    The firesole was such a good driver in its day. Love the classic look, Taylormade Golf should go back to that color for their next line.

    • @devinmiller5533
      @devinmiller5533 Год назад

      and in 2023 they finally listened by bringing us the baby driver with the old school colors

  • @atomant830
    @atomant830 5 лет назад +11

    I would expect matching specs (loft and shaft length) would reveal not much of a difference.

  • @chasilicious
    @chasilicious 5 лет назад +15

    Given head size, how about Firesole vs The Original One mini driver?

  • @benwilliams8437
    @benwilliams8437 5 лет назад +3

    This was my first driver!!! It was battered and I got it from a neighbour! Absolutely loved it until I snapped the shaft trying to do a ‘Happy Gilmore’ 😂🤣

  • @John_Wood_
    @John_Wood_ 5 лет назад +7

    O'Meara won a couple of Majors with this club. It was really tough to hit well.

  • @NJTRAF
    @NJTRAF 5 лет назад +2

    I have an old Cleveland Launcher DST from about 2011 in my bag now, and it is NOT forgiving at all compared to modern drivers, but it’s weirdly more satisfying in a way when I middle it. I’ll be upgrading it soon but I’ve enjoyed the old chap when I’ve managed to find the centre

    • @ABCDEFG-bk9gx
      @ABCDEFG-bk9gx 5 лет назад

      I had a Cleveland Launcher. Great club. I cut it down .75 of an inch. Easy to hit.

  • @gmwilliams4314
    @gmwilliams4314 5 лет назад +1

    I currently use a Cleveland Launcher Driver I purchased in the late 1990's. Cleveland was making some revolutionary clubs back then. It's specs: 12 degree loft, 460 cc Titanium Head matted to a 55 gram Regular flex Shaft! I found it in Goldsmith (RIP 😔), in the marked down section of the store! I used their brand new launch monitor (the first one in Houston, Texas at the time) and began hitting draws with ease😍 I barely knew how to hit a draw at the time. It was LOVE at 1st swing😍

  • @GolfingMalky
    @GolfingMalky 5 лет назад +1

    Great vlog that brought back memories of a TM Burner driver i used to have. BubbleShaft with that gorgeous copper / burnt orange colour. Looked freakin' awesome
    Seeing the drives for accuracy with the M6 looked like my current game with any club; thankfully I have a lesson booked soon with the local PGA pro
    Cheers as always - keep the content coming

  • @josephblair7804
    @josephblair7804 5 лет назад +4

    I still have my old off-set TM Firesole as well as a Nubbins putter.

    • @maamold
      @maamold 5 лет назад

      I Have that FireSole head, and a Nubbins putter as well. I still play my old TM 200 3 wood which beat out the M1 3wood, it's not leaving the bag anytime soon

  • @rodneymounsey4168
    @rodneymounsey4168 5 лет назад +4

    Yep, old clubs don’t generally work as well as new ones, I think the real test is how a 40 year old driver compares with the firesole

  • @paulnielsen1592
    @paulnielsen1592 5 лет назад +4

    I bet if you got the right shaft and loft on the old club the distance figures would be about the same.

  • @justinperrin9503
    @justinperrin9503 5 лет назад +11

    I still use the firesole 5 wood🔥🔥🔥

    • @HemiOrange
      @HemiOrange 4 года назад +1

      I'm still playing ping i3 irons and 5 wood. Haven't hit anything I like more.

    • @gwr2365
      @gwr2365 3 года назад

      I still use titielist 975d 8.5 and firesole woods with bubble shafts and big Bertha 3 wood steelhead

  • @holeinoneman515
    @holeinoneman515 5 лет назад +2

    Haha love the bubble shaft! They are still so cool.

  • @darrelljohnson9940
    @darrelljohnson9940 5 лет назад

    I had this TM Firesole driver 20 yrs ago, I gave it to my son-in-law, and I think he still has it. I hit it almost as good as you hit it!

  • @brianrizza2045
    @brianrizza2045 5 лет назад +2

    You are wrong the worst time would be making those swings on the course like I do. By the way the baseball drills from you and Danny , well today I had the best iron practice session I've had in about 15yrs granted I've taken 6yrs off from golf. Thanks again to you and Danny. Great video Mr. Finch

  • @edtaylor6425
    @edtaylor6425 5 лет назад +5

    Would be great to see ‘99, ‘04, ‘09, ‘14 and 2019 to see the progression

  • @bigdogpete43
    @bigdogpete43 5 лет назад

    I have an old Taylor Made Burner 9 degree with an extra stiff Titanium shaft I still take out to the short tight courses. I choke up about an inch on it's massive oversize grip, play it back in my stance, swing easy with a shorter backswing and a stronger grip, and it is straight as an arrow about 10' off the ground, plus I can work it a bit. Basically I use it like a strong 3 wood, but I can hit it lower with more run. A stinger driver if you will. They all laugh at me, but not when I take their money. It is not the same swing or technique with the old clubs as it is with the new ones and you have to adjust. This video proves that those old clubs were a different skill set.

  • @ZDUTCH1
    @ZDUTCH1 7 месяцев назад

    Very nice. I have that one in the garage somewhere. Actually using the 5 wood and TiBubble 2 irons still.

  • @cloudsrain8753
    @cloudsrain8753 5 лет назад

    Very nice Peter. Glad to see you doing videos. Thank you.

  • @dougdavis8367
    @dougdavis8367 5 лет назад

    When I started the driver was about the size of a modern hybrid.
    There was not much progress,then the golfing gods gave me the ping 30.
    I now hit the ball with a head the size of a bucket ,the distance I hit as a 66 year old is more than a 35 year old .
    I still have a ping g30. We have various company’s demonstrations and fittings but they only offer a few yards extra.
    The modern idea of multiple wedges is fantastic.
    The improvement to putters is up with drivers.

  • @golf_is_a_happy_place9990
    @golf_is_a_happy_place9990 5 лет назад

    I had the old KING COBRA Ti oversize offset titanium Driver back late 90's but always admired the copper colour on the Firesole. Amazing the difference in 20 years of technology. Great video, brought back some memories 😁😁

  • @gazowens2755
    @gazowens2755 5 лет назад +3

    I had a Firesole as a junior. When it went straight it was great but just slightly off and the excess spin killed the shot.

  • @billrohleder8832
    @billrohleder8832 4 года назад

    I have that exact same Firesole in my bag. Full Firesole set driver thru sand wedge.

  • @davidward5968
    @davidward5968 5 лет назад +2

    Credit for posting a video of a bad days swinging, a lot of other YT'ers would probably edit the heck out of it.

    • @JohanSchmidt
      @JohanSchmidt 5 лет назад

      He could have titled it - "How to miss fairways consistently" - - hahaha

  • @autzenduck989
    @autzenduck989 3 года назад +1

    That was my favorite driver in my 20’s.
    I still use the firesole 3, 5, and 7 wood - hit them too good to change.

  • @ChoppedMutton
    @ChoppedMutton 5 лет назад

    The Firesole, with a graphite coloured shaft and orange head got the graphite coloured tracer on the course. The M6, with an orange shaft and graphite coloured head got the orange tracer. Had to do a double take to make sure which club was being hit.

  • @heysolley
    @heysolley 5 лет назад

    For recreational players, the most important thing he said was at the end (I'm paraphrasing): If you can strike it in the center of the face, your 10 or even 20-year-old driver is as good as brand-new.

  • @dfboiler
    @dfboiler 4 года назад

    Just picked up a used burner for my son. My dad had them in the 90's and I liked hitting them... today's 460cc clubs are clubs for the masses. Which is fine now that I'm over 50 and only play occasionally.... but seriously, it's like cheating, weights to control draw or fade, how about learn to swing the club. Both my college nephews routinely hit the ball over 300 plus with the 460cc heads... and I'm sure they could do it occasionally with the burner, we'll have to check it out.

  • @maxcaysey2844
    @maxcaysey2844 5 лет назад +5

    Would you say, Peter that people had to be better ball strikers, 20 years ago, than today because of the equipment?

    • @jiggadaboom
      @jiggadaboom 3 года назад

      I'd say 100% yes, they had to be.

  • @texmex697
    @texmex697 5 лет назад +4

    Golf physics says bad swing + miss the middle = wrong fairway. Nothing changes.

    • @Golfzilla70
      @Golfzilla70 5 лет назад

      not sure what you saw, but i was thinking something along similar lines - Pete looked like he was putting a slice swing on all those slices he hit :)

    • @dnx112
      @dnx112 3 года назад

      Being cheap. Nothing changes. What about great swing + hit the middle = burner 30 yards shorter. Cheap losers suk like lil dk trumps.

  • @ptwrestler14
    @ptwrestler14 4 года назад +1

    The firesole was one of my favorite drivers I owned. I had a bubble shaft on it. I used it up until I got a cobra S3 when they came out

  • @grahamamey3201
    @grahamamey3201 Год назад

    An old video I know but I watched it out of curiosity having previously had a Firesole driver and loved it, I'm actually looking at picking up a secondhand one at the moment, in fact I played some of my best golf with it. I don't know what flex shaft you normally play with with but I doubt that shaft did you many favours, nor the 1.5 degree difference in loft. The lowest round of golf I ever played was with a persimmon driver with an Alidila HM40 graphite shaft. When my swing was on form it felt like nothing else and hit a lovely draw. If my swing was off I may as well have used a cricket bat, and personally that's how I prefer my golf to be. Reward a good swing and punish a bad one, not a round of getting away with shots from a club that covers up a bad swing.

  • @garysmith6994
    @garysmith6994 5 лет назад

    Best video you’ve done mate

  • @CCHRISTOF
    @CCHRISTOF 4 года назад

    I never could get on with the firesole driver, but the seven wood is my greatest love (don't tell the wife), and is still in my bag.

  • @aaronmelbourne9506
    @aaronmelbourne9506 5 лет назад

    Really liked how you showed your shanks in the Vid Peter, would of been so tempting to edit those out.

  • @kieferwoods5124
    @kieferwoods5124 5 лет назад

    I have that driver. The orange one. I love it I play well with it and I’m not going to change it

  • @aldovantonder8702
    @aldovantonder8702 5 лет назад

    I could never hot that club got the R7 and its solid! Glad im not the only one pushing that club right! Watching all the way from South Africa 🇿🇦

  • @bryanharness1122
    @bryanharness1122 2 года назад

    My first clubs were taylormade bubble shaft woods and rifle steel burner over sized irons. Won them in a golf match back in 98 when I was actually decent playing high school golf

  • @reinardtheron644
    @reinardtheron644 5 лет назад

    Enjoyed this video so much! Thanks Pete

  • @ciarangreaney1265
    @ciarangreaney1265 5 лет назад

    I remember seeing a Taylormade set in the shop in the clubhouse back when I first started playing in 99 and there was a firesole driver because I recognise the color, I ended up buying nickent clubs they were like copies of the big manufacturers, but in 2001 my parents got me the callaway erc 2 driver and I still use it to this day!

  • @golfmaniac007
    @golfmaniac007 4 года назад

    shaft plays a huge part in the comparison.

  • @maamold
    @maamold 5 лет назад

    I have an Old Firesole 10.5 head sitting on my shelf. Found it about 50 yards out at the range last year. Always wanted to put a shaft in it and take it out. The distance gains are insane (37yards in your vid). And with that said, I'm all for the top pro's having their equipment dialed back a bit.

  • @whogg0521
    @whogg0521 5 лет назад

    I REALLY like that song in the beginning. It always gets my head bangin'!

  • @Se1kie
    @Se1kie 5 лет назад +7

    Did you adjust your m6 to a 10.5° setting? I didn't catch that if you did.

    • @DougieFresh13
      @DougieFresh13 5 лет назад

      No I think I saw the opposite. Pros going for lasers not pop ups. Of course, yes I can understand the forgiveness and other factors of higher loft.

  • @regripandrip6942
    @regripandrip6942 3 года назад

    So what you're saying is modern drivers are all in the game improvement category. Modern clubs are for winning the money/bet. Vintage clubs teach you how to take full advantage of modern clubs. They're also fun to play.

  • @davidmorris3119
    @davidmorris3119 4 года назад

    Just switched from firesole to titelist 915 d2. Same results as the video. Just as accurate but 30 yards further.

  • @MissyLaMotte
    @MissyLaMotte 5 лет назад

    In my second bag (I am a member of two golf clubs now and don't want to drag my bag back and forth), I am currently playing a Cobra SZ 355 Offset Driver, which came out in 2003 (and which I bought on ebay for 5€). And there are similarities to what you found for the Firesole: it goes slightly shorter and off centered hits are punished a bit more. The extra height and spin is no issue for me (on the contrary, it even helps me a little bit, with my swing speed, height usually gives me more distance, not less, and I rarely put too much spin on the all anyway). The extra offset is almost a bit much. Yeah, it protects me against shots going to the right, but it can lead to terrible hooks when not controlled. But the feel when you hit that thing out of the middle is fantastic. And the sound! That thing is so loud that I regularly fear I will be reprimanded for making too much noise on the course.

  • @glennwiebe5128
    @glennwiebe5128 5 лет назад +1

    I remember the first time I saw a Firesole on the course and I thought that someone had dipped it calf scours. If you're from the farm you know precisely what I mean. An absolutely terrible colour and with performance that's as smelly as the scours! Granted, you did hit it well...mostly.

  • @HamzaKhan-eq9zd
    @HamzaKhan-eq9zd 5 лет назад

    I started playing golf as a 10 year old back in 2005 and the first driver given to me by my uncle was this Taylormade firesole

  • @jamesgallegos4665
    @jamesgallegos4665 4 года назад

    The one thing I wished was looked at more (in this video) than just the driver head technology, is shaft technology! Not only did the clubhead sizes grow in over 20 years but to me, shaft technology, specifically graphite and other materials other than steel, was THE driving factor in driver design! What would happen if you took the shaft from the Firesole and put it on the M6 head? And visa versa? I'm going to guess the Firesole might just hit it further? To me, the clubs I found I loved the most were the ones with the shafts that fit my style! Of course having a massive head didn't hurt but if the shaft wasn't right, it wouldn't matter.

  • @bramabull111
    @bramabull111 4 года назад

    It was great to see you spray a few, cuz I grew up with this driver and couldn't keep it in the fairway lol I love the color and miss that sound bigtime though.

  • @williamparke8868
    @williamparke8868 5 лет назад

    Love that vlog pete pal. ❤️

  • @josephvoll3842
    @josephvoll3842 5 лет назад

    I just compared my old 2005 Titleist 905T Driver to my 2016 Callaway Alpha 816 DBD and the Callaway is about 25 yards longer. (I think the Rogue Silver 60 shaft that's on the Alpha, helps out a lot as well. It's a Great shaft and the Lower Trajectory and low Spin help me out a lot, and the adjustable loft 9° set at 8° also helps for a strong, penetrating trajectory! I Love the Alpha/Rogue combo!)

  • @Special_Airsoft
    @Special_Airsoft 5 лет назад

    Great video Pete!!!!!!!👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

  • @COMMANDERCHODY
    @COMMANDERCHODY 5 лет назад

    I straight up had one of those. Loved that driver.

  • @michaelhaas1298
    @michaelhaas1298 4 года назад

    Great video !!!! Hard to believe how much tech is in today's drivers !!!!!!!!!!!

  • @chadmacjack454
    @chadmacjack454 5 лет назад

    Man 20 years ago for that Firesole! Great vid Pete

  • @adamafseth4675
    @adamafseth4675 5 лет назад +3

    You should try to find the original Pittsburgh Persimmon!

  • @andrewwolf4963
    @andrewwolf4963 4 года назад

    my dad still uses his firesoles he carries a 9 wood 7,5,4,3 lol only has SW-6 iron , putter driver. he’s 67 and shoots 75 like it’s easy

  • @acid_zenzy5212
    @acid_zenzy5212 5 лет назад

    Great video Pete keep up the work I use the m8 beautiful driver

  • @Sethdgregory
    @Sethdgregory 4 года назад

    This was my first driver ever my neighbor gave me a bag of clubs and this was in it. I let my brother hit it once I got my new driver and it snapped on his first swing.

  • @chrissax2
    @chrissax2 5 лет назад

    I had this driver and irons. Loved them!!!!

  • @diegosvega
    @diegosvega 5 лет назад

    It would be great if you compared an M6 with a Great Big Bertha 8 degrees. Back in those years the pro's where using that kind of loft

  • @jeffboothman475
    @jeffboothman475 5 лет назад

    For 1990 it was pretty high tech you should get a Titleist and callaway from same time to compare.

  • @redhed9776
    @redhed9776 5 лет назад +1

    No comparison...technology was on the M6 side. Great video Bro

    • @gmwilliams4314
      @gmwilliams4314 5 лет назад

      I think the real technological difference was the shafts. The Bubble Shafts weight is no comparison to the light weight modern shaft. I think if the shafts were similar the differences in the clubs performance would be negligible.

  • @KevinDelaneyPGA
    @KevinDelaneyPGA 5 лет назад

    I recently compared my old great big Bertha to a new epic flash and considering the age of the old driver I was really surprised how it still held up to the modern clubs. We have a much better understanding of spin rates and launch conditions but when you think every time a new driver comes out it is supposed to go further I would have thought in 20+ years there should have been a greater difference.

  • @bobnicholas965
    @bobnicholas965 5 лет назад

    Hey Pete! Love your videos! Question, when you do these videos comparing clubs and mention that the shaft isn't similar to your gamer. What, if anything are you doing to adjust for that? I think it'd be helpful to take us through how you personally adjust for the club if you do and also helpful to understand what you're doing. Maybe you aren't adjusting anything and just seeing how you fair with the old club just doing the same swing. Cool! Keep up the great content my man!!

  • @16-bit-trip5
    @16-bit-trip5 5 лет назад

    I totally gamed a Firesole back in the day! It paired very nicely with my SuperSteel irons back when I was in High School. It ultimately got sacked when I got a Ping TiSi Tec.

  • @alexdouglas3040
    @alexdouglas3040 5 лет назад

    Loved that video, funny and informative.

  • @blaineuk4159
    @blaineuk4159 3 года назад

    Just watching this as I prepare for getting some new irons to replace the irons I have from the 70/80s. Only started playing 4 months ago so not expecting big changes to scoring as can still just about swing a club 😂

  • @scd603
    @scd603 5 лет назад

    The version I had was called the Bubble Burner. Tried to change the grip once and found that those bubble shafts did not use normal grip

  • @Kamakazi001
    @Kamakazi001 5 лет назад +2

    I still have the firesole driver with me 🤗

  • @chrisj2449
    @chrisj2449 3 года назад

    I loved this comparison video. I have a firesole driver retired somewhere and have some fond memories of using it. I did have some tendency to slice it though at the time, and I had to play it that way, and after watching you do pretty much the same thing with that club, I am wondering if maybe it was the club. lol. Might have to go dig it up and hit up a range. I still love the look of that club though, one of my all time favorites.

  • @numbnut257
    @numbnut257 5 лет назад

    Good video, but I think a better comparison would be the 20 year old 250cc against the new small head driver Taylormade has just released

  • @DougieFresh13
    @DougieFresh13 5 лет назад +1

    My parent's opened a Play It Again Sports in 1993. When I say I've done similar comparisons....

  • @trackster1448
    @trackster1448 5 лет назад

    I thought the oldie performed brilliantly great test Peter.

  • @markderby9416
    @markderby9416 5 лет назад

    Great video pete, i know someone who had one of these when i first started playing golf👍😂

  • @richardgash2349
    @richardgash2349 5 лет назад

    good video I changed out of my m2 irons after 2 years of horrible ball striking and wento to my old set of tailormade supersteel irons with rifled shafts from the year 2000 been hitting them like I did in 2000 right on the cnut love them sold the m2s and gaming these clubs this season with great success lol who would of thought

  • @jimbeaver27
    @jimbeaver27 4 года назад

    I am rocking a 20 year old XXIO small head driver and I am driving them longer than any other driver I have used over the years. I catch them sweeter and they go straighter. I have gone back and tried my much newer Callaway big head driver again and again but I keep hitting them OB with it and it ruins my score. I don't know why but I enjoy the small head driver so much more.

  • @JoeSpencer96
    @JoeSpencer96 5 лет назад

    Loved this Pete! Currently playing with a Taylor Made Burner driver which I’m about to upgrade, thinking the Cobra F9 got a fitting booked in! Top content as always 🤙

    • @peterfinchgolf
      @peterfinchgolf  5 лет назад +1

      Joe Spencer thanks Joe

    • @JoeSpencer96
      @JoeSpencer96 5 лет назад

      Peter Finch Golf update, Stiff fujikira shafted F9 purchased ready for Golf trip to Spain Tuesday 👀

  • @anthonybennett4274
    @anthonybennett4274 5 лет назад +3

    can you send this video to rick shiels , mat fryer ,James Robinson for a laugh after your first attempt with your m6

  • @angelruiz5729
    @angelruiz5729 4 года назад

    I have the same firesole in a 9° with the bubble shaft aswell as it came in that orange head

  • @thomasross1285
    @thomasross1285 5 лет назад

    I have owned all the Taylormade drivers in the past. Used to get them for long drive competition. The bubble shaft was great when it was first made. Then changed manufacturers, the heads have to be well balanced. The Firesole was the worst design titanium head by Taylormade. Everything missed right & the face felt terrible.

  • @davidbarbour1761
    @davidbarbour1761 5 лет назад

    Ive just bought the m6....have to say that firesole sounds awesome

  • @lennylehnertz
    @lennylehnertz 5 лет назад

    Those old taylormade drivers with burnt orange heads (bubble shafts too) were great off the deck. That is not the case anymore

  • @DineshKumar-qz9we
    @DineshKumar-qz9we 3 года назад

    The price has changed.
    Around £200 for M6 and £35 for Firesole on ebay

  • @michaelramos545
    @michaelramos545 5 лет назад +1

    I recently got that older TM club in a 3 wood in my bag from a friend and it’s my fairway finder currently, the ball still jumps off the face! This club is making it impossible for me to go buy a new one.

  • @JT-xs4br
    @JT-xs4br 5 лет назад

    The firesole irons were crazy hot in their day!

  • @marcogolfs
    @marcogolfs 5 лет назад

    Would be a cool test between the Firesole and the Original One mini driver as they are closer in CCs.

  • @balisongjihad4108
    @balisongjihad4108 5 лет назад

    I liked the shape of the fire sole. Miss that gold too.

  • @beakerbiker3033
    @beakerbiker3033 5 лет назад

    Dude... WHAT A SWING! Could that be any smoother or more effortless looking!

  • @cgasucks
    @cgasucks 4 года назад

    I got a Firesole driver for $3 CDN a few months ago.