I have the current demo as well and I am running a dhx2 I was able to fit it by using a Dremel tool and carefully removing just enough material on the HSR to gain the clearance and still be able to adjust the knob as if it were never altered. if you want pictures let me know! Rad set up!
Beauty Demo bruv 👌🏼 love em since the 06 days ! Little tip on why your spring took so long to dry, use Fast Hardener, 4 Oz to 1 is normal want it quick, do 3 of clear to 1 of hardener cheers dude
That riding footage was excellent. It looked like a segment from an MTB film, rather than standard youtube video for some reason. Edit: Just saw the pinned comment. Yes that editing / whatever difference in filming was noticible. It's always been quite good on this channel but that was really top notch, you're onto something with that.
Great review! Snowshoe destroyed my alloy rims too, so moved to carbon and I'm a lot happier. Price is steep but justifiable when considering durability any warranty. And usually not a fan of colored hubs, but those actually look really nice. Love the raw aesthetic so a little pop compliments it quite well.
4:30 The alloy is heat threaded so if you just would weld it you would compromise the strength of the whole frame significantly. If you want to weld an alloy frame you have to strip it from paint(because the paint can not handle the heat threat meant (so you have done the first step) and than weld it and than heat threat it to get the strength it was designed to have) So all in all the Fantasie of being able to simply weld a damaged metal frame applies only to steel bikes In many cases carbon could be easier to fix
I beat the crap out of an alloy Clash frame for several years, cracked it, welded it, and continued to beat the piss out of it with zero issues. Pike Street Bikes in WV specializes in welding broken bikes, I can fully vouch for their work.
@@patrickc2851 most Aluminium Alloys need heat treatment(all used in high end bicycles i know of do). Welding can(and locally will) reverse some of the effects of the heat threatment reducing youre Ultimate tenbsile strength(UTS)(the maximum strength the material can handle in tension before failing). For 6061(i widley used alloy in bike frames this can be around 1/3 of loss in UTS. So welding without heatthreatmant afterwords will weken youre frame(thats a fact) But frames have safety Margins(to handle heavier and more aggressiv riders, tollerate moderate damage and so on....). So it is possible that a welded frame holds up. But it will be not as strong as a non welded one(if its not heat threated after the welding prozess) So yes you can have years of fun with a welded frame but be aware that you have weakend it. after all everybody has to decide for them self considering the ammount of damage, the Stress put in the frame(are you an agressiv and/or Heavy rider) and also how well its been welded(a bad welder could create a larger heat infleunced zone(where the alloy is weakend)as a good one (maybe using heatsinks...(take this with a grain of salt I am an engineer and not a welder)).
@@elyhim its Possible Powder coating ranges temperature wise in the ballpark of whats necesarry for t6 heattreatment(but way shorter T6 goes on for hours(like 6 hours for example) while powder coating is in the range of 10th of minutes(like 20 minutes).(the heat treatment cycles are optimized and you should not interfer with them(temperature and time wise) if you want the mechanical properties claimed by the alloy manufacturer. Deviations from cycle temperature and times usually result in weakend material(for short dont heat your alloy party after they are heat treated)) so lower temperature powder coating should be prevered powder coating is good if you want a tough protection aggainst the elements. The 7005 and especially 6061 alloys used in welded bike frames a sufficcent corrossion resistand(if not in contact with other metalls.....) that powder coating is not necessary. PS there are some high quality alloy frame builders powder coating(if you want it) like Nicolai for exaple and im pretty sure they wont sell you a weakend frame so it should be possible to powder coat without fucking up the heat treatment. But its also very possible to impaire the heattreatment if not doing it right
I’m on a 2020 enduro with I9 ENDURO 355 CARBON 24H. I run 30+psi for rolling resistance. I am using 29x2.6 butchers front and rear. Front casing is a softer compound. The only reason I chose to run cushcore was rim protection. But after running it for a while you notice it helps the tire act more like a dead blow hammer. It’s kinda like having a suspension token in your tire.
Hi, if you ever gona try alloy rims again i recomend the newmen e.g30:s. i have had simulor issues the last 10years before trying these 3yers ago. going try 6-10 rims per year before. i have run the same front rim whitout any dents for 3seasons and 1a year on the rear. mainly runing DH in prooper uplift parks on an enudro bike
Hi, I also wanted to install EXT, called the company they said the trunnion mount is interfering with the frame. How much work was it. Would u recommend the hustle? Currently I’m running DHX2
@@andriy_moskalyk hi mate, the only thing that hits the frame is the lower eyelet, mojo rising the ext supplier in England said to machine off the bits that stop it fitting They did this for me now it fits, it’s actually for sale if you want it?
I have a few pairs of the X3s, including a set of prototype pairs. With full pins installed, it really depends on your shoe and shim setup (if you run any) whether you feel them or not. I'm on FiveTen Hellcat Pros with zero shims and the X1 (4 degree) cleat and I can feel the pins contacting the sole slightly. It's not a huge difference, but it's definitely there and I personally like that feeling. Honestly, not sure what the exact purpose of the plate in the front is but the feeling of clipping in and out feels a bit crisper than the old X2s. Can't really put my finger on it, you'll have to try them to really tell. They also changed the backplate on them slightly so that might be the reason, but I'm not entirely sure. I'd say if you can find them they might be worth it, but for now it looks like the colored options won't be out in the US market until 2023 but a few distributors will get the standard black pairs. Some places in Europe like Switzerland and Italy (which is where I personally got one of the pairs) had the colored models in stock a few months back for whatever reason. If I were to guess, something to do with test markets maybe?
What size did you go with and how tall are you? Think I remember you went with a Medium Patrol, so that bad boy is an s3 I’d guess. Awesome looking bike 🤜💰.
He’s like 5-10lbs heavier so very similar. He could probably ride my setup no problem but he may need it/prefer it to be stiffer, faster, slower, etc. Personal preference would come into play as well
the reason why specialized gravity runs the ex471s and alot of other teams(lots of wc teams run unbranded rims which are the ex471) are cause theyre light af, but they are weak. Theres a vid, not sure the name where loic says they go through 6-8 rims a race weekend. im sure by now u probably broke one. I broke my rear brand new ex471 with cushcore and 28psi on a blue trail by rolling over a tiny rock. edit: just got to the part where u said u broke them with cushcore😂
12 months on…. apparently the narrow rim is because the outside tyre knobs rounds over more, ( say compared to a30mm which provides more square edge tyre), also apparently provides better cornering. I heard this from a number of pro interviews. I don’t think pros grab it for weight, sounds like compliance and cornering
Dodged a bullet on that DHX2. If you get thru a full park day (especially at the shoe) on one without blowing it up, consider yourself lucky. I ride with homies that go through DHX2s faster than tires and brakepads, it’s laughable.
Put in a lot more time on this video making a cool intro edit. Let us know if you like that and we’ll do more❤🤘
It looks amazing in raw Al , you should keep it like this for as long as you can
I have the current demo as well and I am running a dhx2 I was able to fit it by using a Dremel tool and carefully removing just enough material on the HSR to gain the clearance and still be able to adjust the knob as if it were never altered. if you want pictures let me know! Rad set up!
I just got another DHX2 and filed down the adjuster too haha. I was hesitant at first but very happy that I did it
Absolutely love DH bike breakdowns and love them more when they’re in great depth like this!
Thank you!
Thanks for this chill video, I enjoyed it 👍
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Welcome to the raw club buddy. Can't wait to raw dawg up at snowshoe next season! 😘
This sounds too good to be true 🫣
That is a good looking Demo
Thank you. I'm stoked on it!
Doing a great job...enjoyed the vid with Neko you did not long ago. Keep up the great work.
Thank you!
Beauty Demo bruv 👌🏼 love em since the 06 days ! Little tip on why your spring took so long to dry, use Fast Hardener, 4 Oz to 1 is normal want it quick, do 3 of clear to 1 of hardener cheers dude
That riding footage was excellent. It looked like a segment from an MTB film, rather than standard youtube video for some reason.
Edit: Just saw the pinned comment. Yes that editing / whatever difference in filming was noticible. It's always been quite good on this channel but that was really top notch, you're onto something with that.
Great review! Snowshoe destroyed my alloy rims too, so moved to carbon and I'm a lot happier. Price is steep but justifiable when considering durability any warranty.
And usually not a fan of colored hubs, but those actually look really nice. Love the raw aesthetic so a little pop compliments it quite well.
Carbon wheels are the way to go!
Was interested how u went about sizing choices, some shops say 5 ft 8 shpuld go s3 others say s4
4:30
The alloy is heat threaded so if you just would weld it you would compromise the strength of the whole frame significantly.
If you want to weld an alloy frame you have to strip it from paint(because the paint can not handle the heat threat meant (so you have done the first step) and than weld it and than heat threat it to get the strength it was designed to have)
So all in all the Fantasie of being able to simply weld a damaged metal frame applies only to steel bikes
In many cases carbon could be easier to fix
Interesting. Hopefully I never have to deal with this scenario but thanks for the info!
I beat the crap out of an alloy Clash frame for several years, cracked it, welded it, and continued to beat the piss out of it with zero issues. Pike Street Bikes in WV specializes in welding broken bikes, I can fully vouch for their work.
@@patrickc2851 most Aluminium Alloys need heat treatment(all used in high end bicycles i know of do). Welding can(and locally will) reverse some of the effects of the heat threatment reducing youre Ultimate tenbsile strength(UTS)(the maximum strength the material can handle in tension before failing). For 6061(i widley used alloy in bike frames this can be around 1/3 of loss in UTS.
So welding without heatthreatmant afterwords will weken youre frame(thats a fact)
But frames have safety Margins(to handle heavier and more aggressiv riders, tollerate moderate damage and so on....). So it is possible that a welded frame holds up. But it will be not as strong as a non welded one(if its not heat threated after the welding prozess)
So yes you can have years of fun with a welded frame but be aware that you have weakend it.
after all everybody has to decide for them self considering the ammount of damage, the Stress put in the frame(are you an agressiv and/or Heavy rider) and also how well its been welded(a bad welder could create a larger heat infleunced zone(where the alloy is weakend)as a good one (maybe using heatsinks...(take this with a grain of salt I am an engineer and not a welder)).
Same with a powder coat too? I've heard of bikes folding after being powder coated.
@@elyhim its Possible
Powder coating ranges temperature wise in the ballpark of whats necesarry for t6 heattreatment(but way shorter T6 goes on for hours(like 6 hours for example) while powder coating is in the range of 10th of minutes(like 20 minutes).(the heat treatment cycles are optimized and you should not interfer with them(temperature and time wise) if you want the mechanical properties claimed by the alloy manufacturer. Deviations from cycle temperature and times usually result in weakend material(for short dont heat your alloy party after they are heat treated))
so lower temperature powder coating should be prevered
powder coating is good if you want a tough protection aggainst the elements. The 7005 and especially 6061 alloys used in welded bike frames a sufficcent corrossion resistand(if not in contact with other metalls.....) that powder coating is not necessary.
PS there are some high quality alloy frame builders powder coating(if you want it) like Nicolai for exaple and im pretty sure they wont sell you a weakend frame so it should be possible to powder coat without fucking up the heat treatment. But its also very possible to impaire the heattreatment if not doing it right
Great review. Can u please tell what is ur height and what size frame u chose
5’ 12” on and S4
I Just Bought a CF Demo8 AWESOME will be in the Lineup Whistler Opening Day 😎
I’m on a 2020 enduro with I9 ENDURO 355 CARBON 24H. I run 30+psi for rolling resistance. I am using 29x2.6 butchers front and rear. Front casing is a softer compound. The only reason I chose to run cushcore was rim protection. But after running it for a while you notice it helps the tire act more like a dead blow hammer. It’s kinda like having a suspension token in your tire.
Excellent build dude.. it’s your bike it’s custom to you. That’s what matters…
Hi,
if you ever gona try alloy rims again i recomend the newmen e.g30:s.
i have had simulor issues the last 10years before trying these 3yers ago. going try 6-10 rims per year before.
i have run the same front rim whitout any dents for 3seasons and 1a year on the rear. mainly runing DH in prooper uplift parks on an enudro bike
I have this bike, the only shocks that fit are the ohlins, and the old rock Shox coil. I had to get my ext custom machined to fit haha
Hi, I also wanted to install EXT, called the company they said the trunnion mount is interfering with the frame. How much work was it. Would u recommend the hustle? Currently I’m running DHX2
@@andriy_moskalyk hi mate, the only thing that hits the frame is the lower eyelet, mojo rising the ext supplier in England said to machine off the bits that stop it fitting
They did this for me now it fits, it’s actually for sale if you want it?
Nice bike, brother. I'm also kinda surprised that DH bikes are still a thing..lol . I mean, you can do Rampage now on a single crown fork..😂😂
After having a proper DH bike now, I’m not surprised they are still a thing lol
What offset does this demo use on its front plate?
I have a few pairs of the X3s, including a set of prototype pairs. With full pins installed, it really depends on your shoe and shim setup (if you run any) whether you feel them or not. I'm on FiveTen Hellcat Pros with zero shims and the X1 (4 degree) cleat and I can feel the pins contacting the sole slightly. It's not a huge difference, but it's definitely there and I personally like that feeling. Honestly, not sure what the exact purpose of the plate in the front is but the feeling of clipping in and out feels a bit crisper than the old X2s. Can't really put my finger on it, you'll have to try them to really tell. They also changed the backplate on them slightly so that might be the reason, but I'm not entirely sure. I'd say if you can find them they might be worth it, but for now it looks like the colored options won't be out in the US market until 2023 but a few distributors will get the standard black pairs. Some places in Europe like Switzerland and Italy (which is where I personally got one of the pairs) had the colored models in stock a few months back for whatever reason. If I were to guess, something to do with test markets maybe?
Interesting. Thanks for the comment! Sounds like I should try them out sometime!
@@Blake_Cherubini For sure. If I ever make it down to Windrock this winter I'm down to let you test them out and see what you think
That would be rad! Appreciate you 👊
What size did you go with and how tall are you? Think I remember you went with a Medium Patrol, so that bad boy is an s3 I’d guess. Awesome looking bike 🤜💰.
5’ 12” Large patrol, S4 Demo 😁
@@Blake_Cherubini thanks!
What weight do you set you suspension to? How much do you weigh?
I weigh around 180lbs geared up
Great, would you adjust the suspension if your brother rode it? Do you guys weigh the same?
He’s like 5-10lbs heavier so very similar. He could probably ride my setup no problem but he may need it/prefer it to be stiffer, faster, slower, etc. Personal preference would come into play as well
whatup Neko!!
Haha knew this comment was coming
@@Blake_Cherubini haha yep
the reason why specialized gravity runs the ex471s and alot of other teams(lots of wc teams run unbranded rims which are the ex471) are cause theyre light af, but they are weak. Theres a vid, not sure the name where loic says they go through 6-8 rims a race weekend. im sure by now u probably broke one. I broke my rear brand new ex471 with cushcore and 28psi on a blue trail by rolling over a tiny rock.
edit: just got to the part where u said u broke them with cushcore😂
This makes sense😂
Another point for the EX471 is Aaron Gwin @Leogang ruclips.net/video/PUoCSzVmhhQ/видео.html the EX471 is probably not what it was back then.
@@finnarnold3228 how tf did that last?? my ex471 blew up hitting a tiny ass rock
12 months on…. apparently the narrow rim is because the outside tyre knobs rounds over more, ( say compared to a30mm which provides more square edge tyre), also apparently provides better cornering. I heard this from a number of pro interviews. I don’t think pros grab it for weight, sounds like compliance and cornering
Dodged a bullet on that DHX2. If you get thru a full park day (especially at the shoe) on one without blowing it up, consider yourself lucky. I ride with homies that go through DHX2s faster than tires and brakepads, it’s laughable.
Yeah it was probably a good thing tbh. We’ve blown up a lot of Fox shocks on our enduro bikes lol
All I do to stop hearing odd noises on my bike is turn my earphones up.😁
😂😭
@@Blake_Cherubini your bike looks awesome by the way. And for me perfect parts selection. I'm on a mullet Kenevo SL. Cheers from New Zealand 🇳🇿