Watch This Before Replacing Your 4L60E!!! | Trans Saver Tips
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- Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2020
- Watch This Before Replacing Your 4L60E!!! | Trans Saver Tips | Y Legal Racing
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In today's video we discuss a few things that need to be looked over before you replace your 4l60e and have it blow up again!
This video will be handy for anyone that is about to replace their 4l60e or may be having transmission issues at the moment.
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Great video! To anyone who wants a GM service bulletin any GM dealer is required to provide it for you upon being asked for it. Don't accept "No" for an answer!
That's exactly what I did, they printed it out for me on the spot.
You have no idea how much this helped me! Thank you so much man.
Anytime!!! That's what I make these things for! 💪🏽
I paid the $65 bucks for the kit (1 wire) to correct GM's problem after smoking two transmissions. they don't tell you about the problem unless you ask. Rip off
Gotta remember these things are old some may not even have had it done
Question were do you put the wire
Wiring mod works, mine was slipping between 2 and 3, now it works like new 😄 thank you !
Ayyyyyy!!!!! Great to here!
How do you do it?
🔥🔥👍🏽very great video and much gratitude to you, ive seen quite few of those vehicles with trans failures, not only some mid 90’s years also particularly earlier -mid 2000s Chevy 1/2 ton Tahoe’s , vans and suburbans. Recently had resorted to looking at few old pickups , a 95 with trans issue and there’s a 96’ nice clean condition but “it lost 3rd gear” said owner and then I’m looking at rusty but trusty 98’ all are 2wd . So I’ll keep this in mind when collaborating with my repair specialists
Glad I could help!!!
I worked for a considerable transmission company for 18 years (No not Aamco) and I did this same thing hundreds of times. It is common to replace the radiator, and in some models of cars it is necessary to replace the radiator so we provided a new radiator\ when a shop or private owner bought from us
Gotta keep it cooled!
Being the diagnostic and programming guy I mentioned the controller wiring update
@@YLegalRacingalso prevents trapped material
Love the burb at 5:55 authentic mechanic right therrr
I keep it real
I was having problems shifting 1-2 (hard shift) on my 96 c1500 and I updated the wiring and it shifts perfect,👍 thanks again for this information. I hope this could help someone out.
😎 my guy glad to hear!
The actual 1870 code is from the valve in the valve body from everything I've seen it gets reamed out over time and the computer rates that is open even when it's not when rebuilding you have to put a spring or a plug-in
Didn't know that one! More info the better thanks!
I also was told that the speed sensor or oxygen sensor might do that too so like I said I change the oxygen sensor and I replace the speed sensor and still no overdrive
It's probably the trans, my tip here is a preventative tip, it won't fix an already shot trans
Great tip on the module!
Just trying to help!
Great Video ! Thanks for posting. Do you happen to know if there is a similar issue with these PCM that can lead to a PO785 (3-2 downshift solenoid electrical fault), that won't go away even with new wiring to the solenoid, new solenoids, new trans harness, all fuses good. ?
At that point I need to make sure the trans is good or it came from a reputable builder
Hi I have a 1997 Tahoe. It has the same shifting problem.
I was going to do the jumper wire update but the J-1 blue connector already has a cable?
Although I noticed that the service number on the computer is not the updated VCM.
Bruh what
I have a 2003 Chevy s10 with the 4.3 and there was alot of rust in the radiator so I replace the radiator and one year later tranny started slip a little so I just replaced the tranny fluid and filter also put Lucas trans slip to see how it goes. The new radiator I purchased when I bought the truck now has some rust , I didn’t think of blowing out the lines with compressed air. Any other tips will help me . Thank you
Gotta run a solvent or straight up soap in your cooling system for a bit to flush out all your rust. You probably got build up everywhere. I'd run a cleaner through it a few times then add coolant when your done
I have a 97 tahoe 4wd with the 4l60e and had the transmission rebuilt ($1,500...yea I know) but transmission still wasn't fixed, so I took it back and supposedly they rebuilt it again, and wouldn't ya know as soon as warranty expired it started slipping between 1st and 2nd AGAIN.
Sad, 4l60e strikes again, that's the shitty part too, finding a place that will build one to last
I have a 1998 is the VCM issue still prevalent? I have a p1870 threw in a tcc valve oversized o rings didn’t help any so I replaced the solenoids didn’t help, then I just gave up, maybe the wiring issue, also maybe could do a mod to help this any?
I'd say it's deeper than that, gotta have it looked at at this point.
Hey y legal racing I have a question sir? My trans in my Yukon everything works great but when I put in reverse it doesn’t do anything should I try your method to see if it may get the reverse working or do you by chance know what may cause the problem. Thanks!!!
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Great video but i have a question. I had a 4l60e transmission built that installed in my vehicle. It goes in reverse and forward but seems like it takes off in 2nd gear and will not shift out at all. Will the vcm be that problem aswell??
Pfffffffft got me on that one buddy. Need some real diag, have you checked fluid color and codes?
Hey man, thanks for the info. I have a 94’ k1500 and I’m on my third transmission in about 5 years.. last time I lost 3rd and 4th gear, now this time it’s slipping randomly in 1st and reverse. Trans was rebuilt 4 months ago.. Is there a similar issue/fix with this year? Computer is behind glove box in my 94’ , not under the hood. Any help is appreciated, thanks!
Gotta get a good trans builder is what it sounds like
Have a 96 ck 1500 5.7 350 transmission is not shifting into second gear at all so we changed the transmission and yet same problem occurs except now the speedometer isn’t working im at a loss and thinking it could be this
Gotta cross reference the ecm numbers, sucks your having the same problem but if the bulletin fixes it let me know!!!
What year did they correct the problem ?
I have a '99 K1500 Suburban. The numbers are not what's in your vid. The connectors look different too.
Truck has 180k on the original 4L60E.
Thoughts ?
Should be the corrected ones, bulletin came out in 96. You should be golden! 👍🏼
I've done a transmission flush on it what's the proper amount of transmission fluid in it I did the transmission filter and a 2-3 shift solenoid I also did the exhaust oxygen sensor included now and then the temperature gauge will drop to zero and the speedometer dropped to zero like it has a bad ground but it will continue to drive first and second gear are really good the clutches definitely grab and both gears and I have reverse all I'm getting on the code reader is a p1886 I have no idea but if you could help it would be appreciated thanks
Just put a 4l80e in it, trust me
@@YLegalRacingis that a driver swap??
hey man wondering if you could help me out I have a 2011 Silverado with 4l60e I have first and second gear doesn’t catch 3rd or 4th. What could he the issues I was thinking about replacing the shift solenoids and the torque converter solenoid
That could be a start, check the fluid. The darker the fluid the worse it is
Why didn't you leave the transmission cooler connected to the lines and use a can of kooler kleen to flush it out? Air isn't enough, also you want to clean the inside of the cooler aswell it'll hold alot of gunk
I removed and flushed the lines
Recently picked up a 96 k1500 and it has a 97 VCM in it by checking the service number, it’s not the problem service number that’s in the bulletin but would doing the fix cause issues or can I do this as a precautionary measure. Also does anyone know if the fix they came up with in 97 was a wiring harness fix or an internal ground fix within the VCM itself?
Doing the repair would not help or prevent anything, who knows what the actual fix was but i wouldn't mess with it if it does not apply
Hi, Excellent vidio do you know if there is any interaction with the computer and 4L60E when placed in reverse my 94 C4 corvette stalls when computer is in closed loop will not repeat when computer is in open loop
Thanks!!! Had a customer with a similar problem and after he got a rebuild he never had the issue again. Not many things in the 4l60e that can be fixed individually. Either of works or if doesn't
Just saw this in a customer's 99 Corvette ended up being a Miss adjusted neutral safety switch wouldn't always throw a code for the switch problem but when he was acting up as soon as you put it in reverse it would shut off readjusting a neutral safety switch on the transmission fixed all the issues
That's good to know, my car doesn't have an adjustment
I had a 1992 blazer k1500without the VCM, one day the truck wouldn't reverse, only forward. I had to put it in low and high 4 to get it to reverse again. My current 1994 blazer k1500 also doesn't have the VCM. Any ideas?
Sounds like a trans
I need help for . My 96 caprice. I have no restrictions tune, 8k rpm etc. Stock trans. Lines and fluids OK. The trans goes in to reverse. Some times the trans go in to d after I play with shift it and disconnect the battery. Then back to that mode.
Sounds like the stock trans wasn't happy about 8k rpms
Trans may be alright. Maybe a electronic issue or a tune issue..
Hey question would this help the problem to my 1996 chevy 1500 my problem is that on al the gears like drive and reverse it won’t go it just stays it’s like if it’s in neutral for all gears would this fix the problem???
Sounds like you got bigger problems
I was towing a new enclosed trailer with my 97 k1500 last evening. Smaller 6x12. 15 minutes in I smelled something hot, cel came on and I pulled over. Was the 1870 code and I think one misfire & o2 sensor. ATF was everywhere dumping underneath but couldn’t tell from where. Now I’m investigating as I limped it to a gas station, my buddy towed my trailer and I made it 45 min back home driving normal. I had to put 3 quarts in at the gas station and it didn’t leak at all after. I’m wondering if the trans got hot, slipped and line pressures caused it to blow out. Found your video and see my truck doesn’t have the update. I’ve been having harsh 1-2, 2-3 up shifts but only when cold. If I restarted after driving awhile, it would return to normal. Fingers crossed this is it
Hopefully bro! If it doesn't just look into redoing the cooler and getting trans bullet proofed
We had a friend's Dodge do that while pulling trailers it was actually getting hot and puking out of the vent tube only while pulling heavy trailers it was a 4x4 the Overflow was actually on the transfer case which he was in two-wheel drive
I still need to change my fluid and do the ignition switch and/or the jumper to see if it fixes my shift issue. But work has been busy, I’ve been hauling my trailer without issue. I just don’t use overdrive now 🤦🏻♂️
It'll still get hot even if not in 4x4 while driving. The guts of the transfer case still move
That's one way. Just take it easy bro best of luck! 🤞🏽
i have a 2001 suburban 1500 4x4 my truck runs and shifts fine until it reaches temp then goes into neutral... i can turn truck off for 2 mins and drive again for a little bit then goes into neutral again no hard shifts ir anything just goes into neutral when come to a stop after reaching temp.... im lost on what to fix....
Gotta get it looked at by a badass mechanic
4L60E, 1st and 2nd gear is fine, shift into 3rd and it's like in neutral, rpm goes up, tries to engage but slips. Reverse is good.. what should I check out ? 2002 gmc Z71 4x4
Needs a trans
@@YLegalRacingwhat if 4th still works tho?
I’m curious about something, I have a 97 k1500 with harsh 1-2 & 2-3 shifts. Replaced the accumulator and is better but still seems to intermittently shift a little rough. I’m looking into this ground upgrade wire but according to the TSB, the only years effected were 1996 and the repair started after 2/14/96. It states that the corrected VCMs have the 16244210 number which mine does not have but I would assume that would be for the 1996s post repair. Then in 1997 they had new and corrected VCMs wiring. I guess my question is, how do I know for sure if the 1997 models are still effected or not?
According to the bulletin they are not. You can measure the resistance of the solenoids to see if they are out of spec and replace as needed. That's what I would do if I were you boss
@@YLegalRacing got it thank you for the quick reply! I will check it out!
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@@YLegalRacing just did!!
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Is this a common thing on the 4l80’s? Just got mine rebuilt and makes noise when I put my foot off the gas. Sucks! Idk if that’s part of the breaking in or is that from an unbalanced converter idk
This is early 4l60 problems on this vid. Yours sounds like it needs to get looked at
So on my old transmission I would turn off the truck and then turn it on and it would go forward and after a couple seconds it’s like if it was in neutral and now I replaced it with a new transmission and it was shifting hood everything was ok and now it’s doing the same thing which is making me think that my other transmission is still good I literally just finished changing the transmission any idea of what it could be?
Gotta do some real diag, a good transmission shop is hard to come by now a days
Do you happen to know where the vcm is located on a 1998 gmc sanoma, just replaced the trans and it’s throwing up a p0748 code and it’s not running thru the gears
No idea brotha
Where can you get the wiring
ok so i have a 99 suburban and when i put it in drive it just revs up no pull it only pulls in rev 1st and second. i broke the spider gears in rear end and replaced and now it has this issue. first i thought it was shift linkage needed adjustment cause for some reason the guy unhooked it to change spider gears idk i need help... ?????
Sounds like you need a trans
Mine is an automatic won't shift up but will shift down I have to manually change can I get some feedback
Put a 4L80E in it
Would this work with a 1993 silverado? My vcm is behind the glove box and only has a red and blue connector
No
I have a 2005 Chevy Silverado 1500 4x4 and the transmission was rebuilt in 2018 by AAMCO, the the original owner now I have it for 2 years and it just started leaking at the servo cover?? I took it in to Paul and Mike’s transmission shop, I hope 🤞 it doesn’t cost that much to fix , I can buy a brand new one for $1,200 4L60E
Sounds like an easy fix for sure. Fingers crossed!
@@YLegalRacing yap I pray for that, I am disabled and my kidney cancer is back so I want to get my truck fixed so I take my RV trailer to Arizona to live full what time I have left
Dang well I hope you get it sorted out quickly and everything works out for you man. Sending prayers bro
my transmission starts in third when i put it in drive. i don’t have 1-2 gear or 4th/overdrive. i put it manually in 1st and it works, second doesn’t, third does. i’ve swapped a fuse once and it helped it but it messed up again and i swapped the same fuse and nothing happened.
Sounds like another issue, this repair is for a flare, not a no gear situation
@goldgaming9391 Mine is doing the same did you figure anything out? I did a fluid and filter change but starting to think it’s a shift solenoid problem now
@@98obs_aaronit’s probably more than that. I just wasted timing and money on my selenoids
@@98obs_aaronwas it for you?
Does the VCM control the engine and the transmission? Or is it a ECM and TCM separate?
They are together. Engine and transmission control are all done in one module
If I put that harness in would I need to replace the vcm as well?
Follow the instructions in the bulletin
Can I ask you where do you recommend we get the transmission from? can you recommend the place you got yours from?
I went to a local builder in Dallas
Ey man i little help I have a 2000 gmc sierra I bought and previous owner replaced engine and transmission from a suburban 4l60e the transmission it came with just didn’t shift at all and was stalling hard replaced transmission and problem still pretty much almos the is shifting at high rpm and don’t go to third sometimes just don’t run at all , turn the engine off and on and start working again for a few more miles I would accept any advice please thanks!
If he replaced it with a used unit it's a toss up right there. You can't tell the condition of used units. Also, it's possible that when they replaced it they didn't blow out the cooler lines. That can cause metal to reenter the replaced transmission and cause premature failure again.
Yes he replaced it with used transmission and engine from a close year suburban but I mean I just feel it may be the transmission and replaced it with a rebuilt and still the same but im afraid of replacing it again and have the same problem
Ok your wording is off, so a new rebuilt unit was installed?? If so incorrect fluid, shade tree shops, improper install can all be factors. A rebuilt one usually go for 1200-1600ish
Even if it's the new ecm can you still do it? I want to see if it fixes my problem. I have a 98 gmc sierra 4.3l it hesitates on acceleration. The transmission takes a while to shift from 1 to 2 I ease of the gas so it can shift better. If I dnt it feels like I'm damaging the transmission and motor.
You need to scan the faults and see if the faults are attached to the bulletin. Sounds like you have a mechanical trans issue
@@YLegalRacing just checked my ecm isnt the updated one going to scan for codes n see wat it shows then update the wires
Fingers crossed bro!
True
I bought a Stator shaft from Monster( it was a Friday afternoon) for my '93 4L60e.... I bought the same shaft from Globaltransmission on the next Teusday.... A week later, the shaft from Globaltransmission is already installt.... Till now, 1 and a half weeks ago, I have not recieved the shaft from Monster yet.... o ja, I stay in Germany....
Monster can suck it
SHIIZA.. MINE SHATZE.. EIN BIER BITTA?
I have a 1984 c10 shorted with 350sbc what the best transmission would you put in it
Th400 or 350. Your choice based off what gearing you want
Ive got a 99 tahoe 4L60e has a code P0785, running in OD it seems stuck in 3rd no down shifts, no OD.
I can place it in 2Nd gear and then I can shift up to 3rd, but it won't shift back down to 2nd..seem to never see 1st or 4th gear. Any thoughts?
Put a 4l80e in it
@@YLegalRacing how bout a 98 4x4 2Dr Tahoe when I do should I swap to 4180e.
Once you save a bit of money.
I have a 1997 gmc Sierra 1500 manufactured in 09/96 with same issues and no revised number or jumper. The bulletin says GM started making revisions early 1996. I believe I need the jumper fix. My service # is 16229684. Can’t find any other info, scared to try the wiring kit, could cause further damage. Any insights on this? Thanks
You can print the bulletin from gm
Thank you. Now I know why when I bought this old 1500 didn't have transmission.
Glad I could help!
I have a 99 gmc sierra 5.3L it runs and drives but has very high rpms so in first it revs up to about 4k rpm then if I let off gas and press again it shifts into 2nd but seems that's all it has. I could drive like that but my problem is it has no reverse can anybody help or if anyone heard of this problem and what are my options thanks very much.
Sounds like an internal transmission failure, If the color of the transmission fluid is dark and blackish then it's cooked.
Wish you had given a 'clear' view of the procedures. That way the harness could be built diy. Your fingers kept obstructing the print.
Ordered kit through local dealer ($98).
Yeah, unfortunately my ecu didn't need the kit so I couldn't get a good vid on doing it myself. Pretty self explanatory tho. Good luck! 👍🏼
I have an 05 Sierra 4.8 with the 4l60, engages gear when cold but after it warms up it doesn’t shift outta park. I know because when I tried to push it in neutral it wouldn’t budge. All over the place trying to figure it out.
Also tested the pump and it’s fine, I’m thinking it’s an electrical or internal.
Just put a 4l80 and be done
@@YLegalRacing easier said then done
I know, but if I could go back I'd stick a 4l80 in mine.
@@YLegalRacing so your saying instead of rebuilding the 60 just swapping a 80?
Is this also included on the 1998 camaro? I'm planning on sending it to a shop for trans swap what should I make sure they complete
I'm on team 4l80e forever now. The bulletin if you look it up stated exactly what to do. If it's a trustworthy shop I'd let them do there thing
Ok lol 4l80e trans are better in my opinion too but thanks for the help bud really appreciate it🤝🏾
Not a problem
I got a 2003 Yukon 5.3 2wd and the transmission won't shift into 3 or 4 would this work with this
Probably not, could be a valve body but I'd just do a whole trans swap. 4l80 or nothing
My 96 gmc sierra won't go over 30mph u think if I do that it would fix the problem??
highly unlikey
Is there a part number for this jumper wire?
Harbor freight
So I have a 2003 chevy Tahoe and it takes off has shudder launch 2nd is fine but its a pain to get it to shift into 3rd and there’s no 4th what do I do?
1st to 4th tune
@@YLegalRacingwhat’s that
I replaced my transmission but truck is still struggling on take off and acceleration what can it be.????
Possibly
Excellent tips but good luck with that monster transmission I haven't heard anything good about them
Thanks! But check out some of my other videos, I did not have luck. I went through 3 4l60s. I'm getting an 80 built right now
I was gonna get one. $1500 4l60e. Then a freind told me they gave him a crap one. It was painted nice that's about it
Either have it done at a trust worthy local shop or do the same thing with an 80e
I have a 95 Tahoe LT 4x4 and I don't have that box... Or at least not in that location...
95 I think is different, plus they're manual transfer cases too. This works for 96 for sure
Hey there, I just stumbled upon your video. My truck linkage between column shifter and gear selector on the trans came off. Right when I noticed my column shifter became loose the truck seemed be confused what gear it needed to be in. I pulled over popped the clip back on. Park is park, neutral is neutral. Reverse is reverse but now it has issues of accelerating past 45 mph. Just seems like it sits and second, maybe first and the rpm’s sit about 4000 and nothing happens. Could this be related to how I put the clip back on or do I have another issue going on? I drove about 10 miles like that, pulled over and got it towed the rest of the way.
Sounds like you have another issue going on there. If it's in gear and doing that you gotta go through it and check if out
@@YLegalRacing thank you. Was kind of thinking the same. Just weird how it started at the same time I guess. I had the servo o-ring replaced about a week ago trying to track down a tranny leak. Still leaking of course lol. But I wonder if something was botched with the servo reinstall? Seemed to be working for the week I drove it. Fluid levels are good despite leak, I religiously check it lol. I’ll probably do this rewiring asap too because my vcm is not the corrected version :( I also had the connector for the VSS re wired because old was frayed and twisted. I suppose it would do be good to double check those. Or my tranny coincidentally failed.
That could be a possibility to but hopefully not bro. If you do need a trans I'm going through all the 4l80e stuff as we speak
@@YLegalRacing i need a 4l60e 2wd for a 03 or do you have rebuild kits?
transpartswarehouse.com/ this is where I got my rebuild kit
I just bought a 1995 Chevy g20 van with a new rebuilt 4L60E in it. It will not shift past first gear in drive and you can only shift it to 2nd manually. Wont go into 3rd or 4th. All wiring has been apparently tested and fine. The mechanic has narrowed it down to probably a bad computer module. Would you agree with him?? Is this the fix that I would need?
A bad computer can fry a new transmission. Hard to tell without me directly looking at it. If you don't have faults and the trans is acting up I'd say it's the trans. Tough call
Apparently this was the problem they were having so they bought a rebuilt transmission and the problem persisted. It might be worth mentioning that the speedometer also doesn't work at all. Could they ne related? Thanks for your help, im stymied.@@YLegalRacing
Could be a computer issue, you need to bite the bullet and go to a legit legit shop. If they're questioning themselves they don't know what they doing
@@pendysplaces did you get it figured? was it your ignition switch?
Excellent video! Very informative... 👍
Does "studder" with lockup relate to this?
In particular I don't think so
My trans shifts but there's a 2-3 flare. Someone recommended getting a corvette servo. What do you think of that?
Flares are no good, check for codes, if none check fluid, if it's darker than burnt steak at a local sketch diner it's toast. Servo may fix it temporarily but it's a bandaid
@@YLegalRacing Transmisson has been rebuilt a few months ago or so the mechanic claims but when the check engine light comes on, the shift solenoids codes come up and someone said the ignition switch can cause that. I don't know, this has been a headache. I was also told that the 4l60 came from the factory with a little slippage, basically they were designed like that and that you have to take it easy on the gas but when my transmission was first rebuilt 10 years ago, I don't know what that guy did but my truck felt like a sports car kinda like permanently being in tow/haul mode and no slippage. I wanted to take it back to that guy but couldn't find his shop so I went to someone new. Thanks for your help.
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@@jackhoff3398 i have the same problem by any chance did you fix it
Hope yours gets fixed soon!
I know this video is old but I have a question. GM said the part is discontinued, and I can’t find it on eBay. What should I do?
Do a 411 swap
@@YLegalRacing Will the 411 controller will work for any year? Or is it highly specific?
Worked for my 96 and worked for my buddy's 94 🤷🏽♂️
I’ve put different transmission in my 97 just got it rebuilt and it revs and don’t go fluid was good and everything can this be it ?
This is for a shift flare, sounds like you got bigger problems
@@YLegalRacing it ran for sun days buh then it feels like it goes on limp mode not sure buh I cleaned lines and new fluid have any idea of what could it be ?
Gotta start with a known good transmission
@@YLegalRacing been rebuilt already
Thanks
No problem!
How do you differentiate the transmission on these obs? Do they have a stamp? And did these come with 4l80 's ?
These were not offered with a 4l80, you have to look at the case design, if you can see the torque converter it's a 1 piece case
Count the pan bolts
That's also true. Gm has a pan bolt diagram that's legit
Ok I think I gotta check this out now
That's a good point
How do you do the wiring????
Magic my guy!
I don't know how many fuse's I need to check to see if my TCM is bad. Are there more than one fuse?
Gotta check all data brother
I'm a sista, brother lol
🤣 we are all from same village
i have a 1993 1500 4.3 shift ok in slow speed but it like gose into N at a higher speed any pointers
Gotta scan and diag, sounds like the trans is going out
@@YLegalRacing diag you mean the obd and thank you
Yes
I bought a brand new GMC Truck with 4L60 transmission (a $1500.00 option). The transmission blew up at 59,000 miles. Cost $3,100.00 to replace. At the time I was a young Air Force Airman barely making ends meet. My wife, little baby and I ate a lot of baked beans, Mac and Cheese and no Christmas or birthday presents to pay for that..
I think about that $3100.00 on my credit card with the interest I paid to this day. And how bad that financially devastated my young family and I at the time.
I protested to GMC and Mike Yates GMC the transmission was defective. They both told me, tough sh*t pay us.
I returned to being a loyal Toyota customer after that.
Mike Yates GMC Dealership
In the greater Phoenix area.
The 60 is terrible but Toyota is proven reliability, they can run on water and prayers for years
I used to be a Chevy guy until I rebuilt my 2005 Corvette transmission two times in a period of 5 years
Thats harsh! No warranty came with that?
Correct, out of warranty. Barely.
Still violates any sensible persons definition of quality standards.
GMC was not the least bit troubled by strong evidence that this transmission was defective. GMC acted like they had just finished a magic trick. And I was the sucker for trusting them.
I dont want this to happen to anybody else. Including you. That's my consumer advocate point.
What was the symptoms ? What are the symptoms ?
It's literally in the bulletin
Ok so I'm having a similar issue my 03 Tahoe just started to shifting issues with check engine light still on I replaced A B shift solenoid and the tourqe solenoid basically all the censors for tranny still doesn't want to shift I replaced two blown fuse and still same issue can anyone please help that has encountered this problem or know why it's not shifting with replaced parts crazy though when I disconnect the battery for a few the reconnect it engine light goes away and it shifts with new parts please help
Sounds like a heavy electrical problem or a hard faulty internal transmission problem
I really hope not as far as replacing the transmission I had a mechanic repair it and he said the tranny is good it's actually a GMC transmission found that out by the vin but it go in gear and drives just doesn't want to shift but it's shifted before thanks for the advice
Hope it all works out
I know this an old video. I have had my 4l60e rebuilt twice already and lost third gear both times within 200 miles. Could that be the problem?
Potentially! Gotta check the ecm numbers, if it's a shift flare then yes it could %100 be the issue. You'll run through transmission every time
@@YLegalRacing I will check when I get back home. I gotta change intake gaskets before putting back in trans shop for the third time
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I have a 95 GMC Jimmy 4.3 L four-wheel drive with the 4 L 60 e transmission and I don't have OverDrive it only has two gears and only shifts if you shift it manually and I'm still not exactly sure what it is
9 times out of 10 its a trans
Usually if you lose 3/4 it means your 3/4 clutch pack in the input drum is burned up and needs a rebuild, if you can still shift it into 3rd and 4th the problem is most likely in the valve body. You can find good used valve bodies pretty cheap, make sure its the same year that 95 is an oddball year.
This guy speaks facts
Or check the BTSI fuse
Does this apply to the 2000 Chevy s10 it slips in and out of overdrive?
It is a 2.2 4 cylinder 136,000
Question so how much total was the monster transmission/fluid shipping? I have gone through three 4l60's in less than two years, so frustrating tks
Monster charger 2,400 after taxes and shipping. You and me both are pissed. Just get a 4l80 from a junk yard and get the McLeod rebuild kit
Check my latest videos, monster isn't that much of help. Get your local reputable guys to build it for you.
@@YLegalRacing will do tks, just found your channel tonight
Sub and be on the look out 🙏🏽 feel free to reach out and ask away
@@YLegalRacing Yeah that's what I was thinking also the 4l80 swap jury rig deal, got to tell ya the 4l60 imo really suck, and the 5.3 imo lack power and overwork the transmissions when towing
3yr update, transmission hold up?
Everything is minty! Even with the new 4l80
the burp at the end hawse, I almost got mad, being as how you made an informative video, but it did make me laugh
A laugh and some info is what I'm here for 😂
My Yukon has no gears and tryed to look at the pcm vins doesn’t even have it anymore pcm turned corrosion colour white
Yeah, sounds like you need a trans
I just bought it and owner said he put a transmission in cuz 3rd went in and put another one in drove and shifted perfectly normal and just randomly quick
The transmission fluid smell perfectly normal and colour looks good
Happens all the time bro
Could be the case but you don't know whats happening inside. You could put all new solenoids in it but it's a gamble
Will it fix the problem when doing this kit?
If you have a flare possibly
What is the documentation number? How do I find it?
Pause the video to see the bulletin number
He said "don't ask Me how I got it" then told how he got it 🤣
That's how I live my life 😂
How did you get that bulletin
Got it at gm dealer
@@YLegalRacing hey I was kind of messing with you on that question, but I have another for you. Is this ground fault an issue in the 1st gen 4l60e 93-94? I can't figure out if this is a result of the first changes they made to the electronics in 95
That I wouldn't know off the top of my head.
@@jackieberry9096 Me over here watching this with a 95 after my trans went out yesterday 🤣🥲
Happens bro....happens. I'd bite the bullet and do a 4l80e swap
How did you got that paper 🤓?
I'm a tech
Trying to figure out how to post a pic of my truck?
Use a camera?
@@YLegalRacing REALLY??? LOL
I mean how else lol
I have a 93 c1500 4.3, and my area where your vcm is, my area is empty? I have a 4l60e.
Hmm the driver side near the battery?
@@YLegalRacing My battery is on the passenger side. 93's must be totally different than yours.......C1500's anyways...lol.
You gotta see if this bulletin even effects you anyways
@@YLegalRacing It probably doesn't. My bad.
My buddy had a Cheyenne like that but with a manual and it lives forever, 380k miles and gets its ass kicked everyday
How did the monster trans work out
Got rid of it and never looked back.....worst decision ever
@@YLegalRacing that’s what I’ve heard thanks for spreading the word
@KollynJ I would never go down that road again
@@YLegalRacing hard to go down any road without a functional transmission. Sorry you experienced that. My 4l60 in awd safari is probably on its way out but I changed fluid filter and solenoids but still revs to nowhere when it tries to downshift. Hoping it’s a torque converter clutch or lockup solenoid it does seem like it could be something electrical, but that’s hopeful. Skeptical of sending it to a trans shop
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Are you saying vcm?
Si
The bcm is inside the truck
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What year did this problem start?
Around 94-96ish gotta look it up per your specific vehicle
@@YLegalRacing where would you look it up?
0:45 in the video shows the exact details of what cars it applies to in 1996
@@YLegalRacing sorry, its pretty late for me 😅
All good bro 👍🏼 you won't believe what other people say sometimes.
Makes video saying where you can buy this part
Comment: where do you get those?
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Have an 07 Burb dont think i have that lol
Correct
Check out my 03 burb quadrasteer! It's on the channel
@@YLegalRacing im having an issue with my tranny it only stays in one gear and I had a tech test drive it for me, he said that it needs a new ome rebuilt, is there anything i could possibly check before having to resort to getting rid of the car orrr
I have not heard good things about monster does anyone have a compliment
CNN would cancel me if I spoke real words about them
@@YLegalRacing well that's good to know thank you
@@YLegalRacing and that's funny right there are world is full of stupid
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I'm sure this junk yard find will last longer than the new "built" 4l60e
I've never NOT replaced the cooler AND lines, but your first problem is...Monster
Edit: I wouldn't let Monster, or Mad Dog (sorry lou) or Patriot check my fluid level, nevertheless sell me something...you are asking for, No PAYING for problems. And I fvckin Like Lou!! But bro on the real? C'moooonnnnn 😆, fvck at least he's better than "mobster" I haven't checked in years but I'd bet IF they're even accredited. They'll still have an F and a hundred open complaints, internet based transmission sales are for the 🐦. I don't care where you live. There's a shop close enough! To build you a stout trans. Hell, 2200 for a complete trans? That's my parts cost on a 400hp stage 1 build in NC and I'm surrounded by great suppliers parts brokers etc. Mad Dog? Yeah "our godfather. Yup 1850 on ebay! Just click buy now, call me, and I'll build you exactly what you want!" Oh and he says he test drives every single trans in his magic van that can use every model trans and yet when ya get it, bone dry? Oh I powerwash them, ok well I paid for billet, this is stock inside? "You opened it when it exploded! You're problem! " and we'll ya get the point. Ya want a good 700, 60,60e6570 there is a builder that will probably HELP you get the parts like a 4l79 drum and all the servos and solenoids ya want for a good daily and costs should be around 1100, then it's just what they want to charge you to spend 2.5 hours putting it together and installing it! Which is right around 2k for most stock units, BIT YOURS WON'T BE STOCK! I'm just saying, "shop local/support your community, and IF sh*t breaks? They're 2 hours away, not Pennsylvania or Florida or California for CPT but you pay frank at CPT, ain't sh*t breaking lol
Exactly, I got suckered in. And they don't do refunds
@@YLegalRacing understood brother, well make lemonade, even if your given old eggplant, well don't do that. As KY Scott does: kick those as hard as possible, but then go inside, make lemonade, add vodka lol, jk well I don't drink but, then come up with a game plan! My buddy Brenton builds good "slightly beefed(fixing sun/circuit leaks/new clutches,etc) " 4l60s all day shipped less than a grand, for your stock Tahoe, mention my name, I bet he'll ship ya one for 850) if you ever need it, ask my brother, Jefferson is not my last name so don't tell him that! Haha but check him out, he's out of Leland NC B1transmission
Bro these are the bugs we all need! That's awesome, I'm definitely doing that with this egg plant lol.
@@YLegalRacing well ya got 1 more sub w/ me, im in raleigh if I can ever help (go look at something in person/help ya find something) just hollar
@@beasyphone much appreciated brotha!
In a word....leaf blower.
Dewalt leaf blower
1993 is a 1993 transmission only year
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