Best Affordable Subwoofer PERIOD! RSL Speedwoofer 10E 2024 Model!
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RSL Speedwoofer 10E: rslspeakers.com/
My Other RSL Reviews:
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Speedwoofer 10S MK2: • Best Subwoofer under $...
Test Equipment:
Preamp & Power Amplifiers:
Kinki Studio EX-P7: www.kinki-studio.com/ex-p7
Kinki Studio EX-B7 mono blocks: www.kinki-studio.com/ex-b7
Hegel H190: www.hegel.com/en/products/int...
CHoco Sound EMEI: www.kinki-studio.com/product-...
Emotiva TA2: emotiva.com/products/basx-ta2...
Pathos Classic One MKIII: upscaleaudio.com/products/pat...
Source: Bluesound Node 2i or Cambridge MXN10 Streamer
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(all music is hi-res streamed from Tidal)
DAC: Denafrips Ares II or Ares 12th-1
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Speaker & Power Cables: Maze Audio Ref4
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(rest in peace Kent)
Interconnect Cables:
Analysis Plus Oval One RCA
Oyaide Tunami Terzo XX V2 XLR
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Your results may vary based on your ears, room, and associated equipment. 
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Got mine in today, this thing is absolutely incredible at the price point. I have an SVS SB1000, Micro 3000 and Def Tech Supercube from way back. I’m running the RSL on my KEF LS50II and I’m completely impressed
RSL 10e or SB1000 for strictly music?
Mine is on the way!! I was on the list for the 10S and was contemplateing the SB1000PRO when I saw this video and I was sold instantly. It's honestly a no-brainer.
Can't beat that price. My DIY sub box took me 8 hours of labor so that is worth $300 at least never mind the 2 Parts Express 10" subwoofer drivers (installed back to back). The MDF, plate amp and paint I had laying around.
Yeah, I built the ultimax 15 with the spa1000.Ive never heard anything, even 3x that price even come close.
I cheated on that side. I started with a JBL 550P for $130 refurb. I then ordered a CSS SDX10 driver and swapped that in. The amp isn’t powerful enough but the enclosure size and quality is damn good for the $130 price. Saved myself multiple hours of building. I just need a 500-800W amp to power it properly.
But I really want to pick up one of these 10E’s now to compare and I all but guarantee that I’ll keep the 10E instead of the CSS modified JBL for my living room theater setup. I think a ported sub would be the better choice. It will have more extension for movies and I don’t need super tight control for movies either. That’s why the CSS/JBL will go to my dedicated 2-ch setup.
I also have two more of the 550P’s that quite frankly disappoint me now that I upgraded one. I’m not about to spend another $650 on two more drivers so I’ll have to try to unload them or something. Or maybe move them to the garage…I don’t know. They should do fine out there for music.
@@Mike.Macmyazka Very nice. You must have some crazy loud mids and tweeters to need an 800 watt sub. The amp for my dual driver sub is around 150 watts and the gain is less than 50% when dialed in to my Triad MTMs.
RSL is so good that even though they are the cheapest parts of my system, every time I sit down to listen to music it's like, oh, I'm good for now. More than good 👍. For someone like me, that speaks volumes.
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I'm glad you talked me out of the JLB 550P on your discord. This was worth waiting for. $299 is crazy for this spec.
I'm embarrassed to admit that I sold off my empty Altec Lansing cabinets. I was looking at using them for the JBL subwoofer. These were the solid built 70's Santana series. Dang!!!
Way to go RSL 🎉
Thanks for sharing Nemo
I have 2 SVS SB2000s, and I would 100% consider an RSL 10 or 12-inch powered subwoofer. Very impressive offers by RSL. 👍
As someone who was looking to get the SVS -SB 1000 Pro, this review is making me reconsider. Two for the price of one is hard to resist. Think I'm gonna have to go that route.
Do it. These will sound better.
@@wking8Good to know. Thanks for the advice. Appreciate it.
It's doubtful that you'll regret it and it's pretty low risk especially if you can return them.
I now own both and the RSL crushes the SB1000
Two will also balance out each other. It won't sound like it's coming from one corner
Bought the RSL ia with the help of your review. Really like it and now this may have to take up the sub out .THANK YOU !
hell yeah brother!
Thanks, Nemo, for this video. I was about to order the mkii but was hesitant because it was pushing my budget as a retired person. I can afford the 10e and don't need the extra 100 watts and remote features. Put my name on the waiting list 7/13/24.
Side note: I remember Roger's Sound Labs on Van Nuys Blvd. In the San Fernando Valley in the 1970's. Never thought I'd buy their product 50 years later.😊
This seems like the perfect subwoofer for a not as serious secondary system in a spare room or something! Love it.
Such a killer price, I just received an email about this. Hitting it out of the park again! Thanks Nemo!! Just may pick one up!!
If I hadn't gotten a 10S MkII just last year, I would be all over this. Big RSL fan.
I literally just checked my email and saw this and bam Nemo already hit us with a review!
Same.
I have 2 Speedwoofer 10S and use the wireless connection. It makes placement super easy.
$300 for all of this is actually insane
yup
Looks Excellent if you can find it. Need more affordable equipment for the average buyer. Thanks for the review.
It didn't take much convincing, but I bought one right away! Can't wait to try it out! Gonna try it in the desktop system. Awesome review!
RSL is Amazing , I have a full 7.2.4 RSL build with 2 12s subs , and let me tell you the sound is mesmerizing pure bliss.
Great review my dude. Like the 10S I can see a 12E in the future for a little bit more. RSL is Making Moves for the people's ✊🏼 crossing my fingers a 15S is on the drawing board 😮
Orders in! Thank for another great review bro. Home Theater in a camper so no room for the 12s
Nice bro! A few of my friends have RV's and I've been trying to convince them to add a sub but no luck so far :)
A speaker company being honest, and working to provide something that exceeds expectations. Brilliant!
Just ordered one earlier, looking forward to using it. There are so many subs that are the same price or even cost more that are complete junk. RSL=quality and powa!!! Rock on 🤘 Nemo!!
I just bought the Airmotiv XS10 this weekend. I'm expecting it to arrive on Wednesday. Got it for $400. It's probably not as good as the RSL but I'm sure I'll be happy with it. Emotiva seems to be a standup company. It's 350 RMS and I'm sure it's one of the better ones in the price range.
I had an XS8 die on me in less than a week.
@@gregwwinkler Did Emotiva exchange it?
I returned it but still haven’t been refunded. Takes a few weeks I guess.
@@gregwwinklerDid Emotiva ever actually process the refund?
@@LordWaterBottle I'm curious to know as well.
I freaking knew they'd do this shit lol, RSL is NOT here to fuck around, they are here to CAPTURE THE LOW END MARKET! I have to say i am still a bit surprised they undercut themselves! I was kinda missing the lower price point, but they made up for it and then some. My first rsl product may be a freaking rsl shirt if they got em! Here watching at 44 min into it being posted. This subwoofer is actually kinda funny because it's technically competitive on paper with a lot of subs that actually just have fake specs or hilariously misrepresenting/misleading specs lol. This one is most likely to replace the c912 if money doesn't come in quick enough for an L12. #RSLTakeover , broke boi paradise.
Selling directly to consumer, if shipping cost is low, makes this one a real winner. The only feature that I'd like to see is balanced XLR input. This makes it completely matched for preamp and/ or crossover hookups.
Deflation in goods coming in hot. Would be interested in seeing a nemo review on the Holo audio cyan 2.
Great review, thanks!! (Best subs start with an 'R' (RSL - REL - Rythmik.. )) 🤔😄
Both of my 10e’s arrived yesterday. I set them up quick (shitty placement and no calibration) and they are LEGIT. I replaced one RP1000 with these 2 instead of getting another RP. It was basically an even swap price wise. These absolutely sound better with music. I’ll test them with movies after I set them up right. WAYYY tighter than the RP, but the RP can definitely dig a little deeper. I don’t really care, as I’m like 80/20 music and movies. CERTIFIED BANGERS
hell yeah brother!
Another thing we have in common. I’m a Camry lover too. I’m on my 4th, or 5th one right now. And my Mom has a Lexus on my recommendation. Toyota is where it’s at.
Sure I’d rather drive something fast like you do. But I need mine for work. So I go for reliability first. ✌️
RSL makes good stuff, and you can't beat the value. That's a strong combination. Especially in today's market.
Dang I didn’t know they made an even cheaper version!! Sweet!!!
Hard to imagine it’s going to be any better than the other $300 subs out there.
I bought 2 of the 10S's when they came out a few years back. Are they a 15Hz extension monster? No, but for under 1K you can have fabulous under 30 Hz performance that's loud and clean. What a setup!
Is two better than one? Certainly but there is also an argument for one SB1000Pro. Recently I was integrating an SB1000Pro I own into my 2ch system and while it is only one subwoofer with all its room modes, the SVS App was actually very, very handy. To do the integration, I performed REW measurements and then changed subwoofer and or pre-amp settings (basic tone controls). Because of the app, I was able to do dozens measurements while tweaking different aspects, phase in increments of 1 deg from 0-180, three sets of PEQ where each can be centered on a specific frequency adjustable in 1 hz increments and tunable from -10 to +6db and adjustable Q (slope), this is in addition to the basic controls such as volume and crossover AND adjustable crossover slope. So while two is better than one, there is a good argument where one in this case the SVS with built-in DSP would be compelling. With two RSL, and basic controls, I’d probably have a much tougher time with the integration without getting into room correction or external DSP.
there certainly can be an argument made for a single sub in many situations, ultimately your room and needs will dictate what's best. For most people it will be dual subs but for some it certainly will be a single sub for one reason or another.
Rsl make wicked subs!
Came back to this video to comment. I clicked on this video the moment I saw it in my feed.
RSL has thrown down the gauntlet in a market where brands like SVS and the reasonable price heavy weight Emotiva have raised their prices.
This sub is an amazing buy. Unfortunately it’s a bit on the large size for my room. But if I had the space. I’d go for 2 in a heart beat.
Definitely product of the year contender, and it’s going to be almost impossible to beat. At least at this price anyway. It’s a great time to be into audio man. ✌️
RSL doesn't miss!
they really don't!!
I just saw this email and was about to come comment like damn this has got to be the subwoofer referenced a few days ago and sure enough here’s the review.
I've tried to buy the RSL 10 mk2 for 3 months and it's only offered for like an hour a month before it sells out. So if they're serious about this then they have to build a bigger production line.
Or just keep selling out? This isn't an overly greedy company and I'm sure they're making some good money with their current production model. Bigger production lines are a big commitment and make for harder landings if/when sh!t hits the fan.
Low supply increases demand.
Youre right about toyota. Friend of a friend worked for hyundai, toyota and Honda. Toyota litterally engineers their stuff to last to 750000km vs hyundai at 250 000km.
Recently found your channel and I really enjoy all the info. I currently have a two channel set up for music listening using dynaudio emit 20’s and an NAD C388. I’m in a 9’x11’ treated room. Do you think this would be a good addition to that system? Been wanting a little more clean bass in my system.
Yes! However the EMIT have A LOT of bass so you might need to plug their ports to get the best subwoofer integration.
Damn Nemo your gushing.
Looks like a nice deal bro, buy 4 and totally charge your room with 2 nice double stack arrays and still be at a respectable price.
Yup, the Toyota Camry comparison is spot on. Totally get that. What else could you say really?
Amazing
Building my first system I think im going with one of these and 3 of their CG23Ms for the front to start out.
I’ve heard nothing but great things about this company and I’ve only ever had cheap soundbars. I can’t wait to experience something better
nice bro, that's gonna be a nice upgrade!
great, now that is an affordable subwoofer sixpack :P
someone quickly review that setup!
Honestly RSL is rocking THE HOUSE...
100% agree.
Hello again Nemo, I have the first S10 for 6 years now, and is excellent. Between my experience with it and your recent review, i bought the 12" one ( surprisingly cheap shipping cost both times, as i live in Mexico City)
Could you tell me please if this E version is good for music? Im thinking about buying one of this for *complement" the other two. ( More than buy one for fun and see how it blends 😊)
As always thank you so much for what you do, love your work.
if you already have the 12s then I don't think you really need a 10E. The 12S is crazy good!
Awesome, now when is the 12E coming?!!!
I'd guess never, I don't see that form factor getting any cheaper, it's already pretty amazing.
Yep, bought my wife a 24 Camry. Coming from a Kia. Got burnt with the oil burning issues. I have 1MK2 and was trying to integrate it with Infiniti SUB R10. Didn't work to well. I may get another MK2 eventually. Thanks...
I'm not surprised, mixing brands rarely works out well.
RSL is sick! Is this the sub your were NDA’d about or you have another ace up your sleeve? Props to you taking care of your mom’s car. 🤜🤛
Yup! this is the one!! :)
@@NemoPropaganda just curious were you involved in the development or tuning or the product or just got early access to it? Doesn’t to influence my buying decision just interesting to know.
@@aceofspades6667 nope, they just sent me a review sample ahead of launch. It's very rare for anyone to ask my 2 cents on a preproduction unit. RSL has a good team that knows what they're doing. I'm surprised they even still send review samples, they don't need to, their stuff sells out so quick. But they're super cool & down to earth people that just love the hobby.
@@NemoPropagandain the prior review you said you’d go a single 12S over a pair of 10 mk2. Would you still go a single 12s over a pair of 10E $ per $ ?
@@aceofspades6667 value questions are so personal so it's hard to say, if the physical size was not an issue a single 12s is just so damn effortless I'd still rather have that but in a bigger room where I needed more even bass I might prefer the dual 10E or even 10S.
HUGE props to RSL !!!!!! HOLY SHIT THIS IS INSANE... IF ONLY SVS could have something like THIS... Lets see IF they respond ....???? ( THIS coming from an SVS owner ...)
I don't think they will, SVS is more of a technology/feature driven brand at this point and they do a really good job at that and offer a fair value. RSL is just an insane value!
My home theater 5.1 system started 4 years ago. I went from 1 10 in sub to 2 10 in subs in 6 months. It wasn’t enough! I decided to just bite the bullet and bought 2 15 in HSU subs. If you are building a true home theater system, skip all the affordable subs and save it for true subwoofers. My next upgrade will be a miniDSP and REW. The loudest I play movies are 90 decibels at my main listening position which is 12 ft from my tv.
I'm not sure I really agree with that, there are plenty of people that run 8" subwoofers and never feel like they need anything beyond that. Enough bass is a very personal thing, it's like how spicy do you want your food, we may have different desires for different levels of spice. Personally I'm extremely happy with a little KEF KC62 in TV rig.
Just passed my 10S trial 😑 Happy for those who can get the 10E, though. Even better value!
turn that frown upside down! You got 33% more power!!
I currently run two 10s subs stacked in one corner due to odd room dimensions. It's directed corner to corner to capture the longest dimension of the room and help with large bass waves. When you stack two in one corner you achieve up to a 6 db gain. When I first hooked them up I was stunned at the output. Literally everything in that room was rattling and buzzing until I treated those issues. Still, I can only turn them up to the 9 or 10 o'clock position or they overpower the main speakers. Mind you, I'm running big towers with 10" drivers.
Lately I've considered upgrading to two rhythmic L12's at $1,280 or even two F12's at $2,380.
You now present me with a third option: Fill all four corners with stacked 10e's for $2,400 (8 subs!) or two corners for $1,200 (4 subs!).
Do you have any thoughts on this? Thank you.
L12 is the next logical upgrade from the 10S or 10E, I'm not sure which one plays louder but the L12 gets lower and has the best transients and overall SQ available around that price.
Thanks for reviewing! Quick question...I'm looking to replace my current subs and wondering if 4 of these 10E's or 2 of the 12S's would be better? Thanks!
I'm not sure, that's a better for RSL directly but if I had to guess I'd say dual 12s.
Hi Nemo! For strictly music, would you go with a new 10S MKII or a used T/9i? I'm looking for high fidelity, clean, fast, tight sound. I don't care for max power/loudness.
I never heard the t9i, only the t9x.
HOLY!!!
Great video as always...qick question...I have a RSL 10s in my system...have always wanted to get a second sub but just couldn't afford it... would the 10e match up good with my 10s?
yes but they do look slightly different, the 10S has the little ledge/chin at the bottom while the 10E front baffle is completely flat.
@@NemoPropaganda thank you
I just grabbed two of them! An audio channel and a gun guy? You earned a sub 🔔
yes sir! How did you know?
@@NemoPropaganda I saw you talking guns in another comment. I was a cop for 15 years and taught firearms. Speakers and guns are the demise of my wallet
@@Cloverleaffirearmsgroup oh nice dude!! Yeah I hear ya!! I gotta reel myself in fairly often.
Absolutely incredible for the price! And yah the peak numbers marketing is terrible. Even if a lightning strikes your subwoofer it'll probably never hit those peak numbers. That's why the subwoofers with 2000-3000 watt peak numbers still have standard 120 volt setups typically.
Hello Nemo, how does it compare to REL HT 1003 and 1205 Mark 2
Any rec’s on how to integrate this if my systems lacking a high / low pass filter?
most of us (myself included) don't use any highpass filter. Just set the sub around the natural inroom roll off of your speakers, play with the phase (pick the one you like more or the louder one) and dial in the gain. Feel free to hop in the free discord if you need anymore help.
Which would you go for to upgrade a 5.1.2 system which currently uses an SVS SB 1000 pro:
Two of the new 10E subwoofers or
One of the rhythmic LV 10 M ?
I can't really answer that question for you but you're welcome to hop in my free discord and chat with some people about it, maybe after we see your room we can help you a little better.
300$ for this is really pushing it. You couldn't even DIY a similar speced sub at that price point as a decent 300Watt plate amp will set you back 150$ alone. This is a crazy good deal. I don't actually know how RSL does that.
Thanks for the review. Question, how would you compare 2x 10e to 2x rel ht1205 that I picked up for $500 used? Thanks for your time!
the 1205 mk1 is a great sub, it's going to integrate better and have better transients but the 10E being vented will have higher ability for dynamics and more output at the extremes.
Help tip the scale for me… if you had to choose, which 2x would you pick? Main reason I’m interested in switching is aesthetics since I picked up the rel used and they have a little ding here and there and I can get the rsl break even price. If you think it’s a waste of time then I’ll probably scrap the idea of switching. I live a boring life I’ve got too much time on my hands! :D
@@speedthree3 ahaha, I hear ya. Honestly brother I'd keep what you have. I have an original 1205 also, it's an outstanding sub. Unless you were lacking in output I don't see any reason to change to the 10E.
I need this! I have a Speedwoofer 12s and frankly it's too darn heavy and takes up too much room.
The 12S is an absolute beast! But I get what you mean, size matters and it has to look good in the room too so if the room is too small a giant sub can dominate the room.
It might be hard to compare, but should I go with two RSLs 10E or one RSL 12S for a 16'X19'X10' open-space living room?
I can't really answer that question, theres just too many factors, 1 giant sub has its benifits as does 2 smaller subs.
So what is the advantage of a high level input? I have them on my KC62 but do not use them. Am I missing out on something?
if you have an old crappy AVR that has a crappy filtered subout then high level might sound better, if your amp has no preout or subout then high level is another way of getting your subwoofer connected. There's no inherent benifit of high level for the sake of being high level. It all gets converted back to low level inside the subwoofer anyway.
Do you change your crossover depending on what you do like putting it on 120hz or higher for movies and games, then 50hz for music? Or do you just set it to one frequency and leave it at that?
no, I set the x-over to the speakers I'm using and that's it. The only thing I change is gain, more for movies/games, less for music.
@@NemoPropaganda Thanks for the quick reply man keep up the good work!!!!
My next purchase will be a $110 RSL amp as soon as I sell my Triumph America. The wife barely likes me having new Sportster and certainly doesn't like me having 2 bikes. Not that I care that much. If I really wanted both I wouldn't sell the Triumph. I have Florida property taxes to pay so...
RSL Speakers Speedwoofer, and Rhythmic Subwoofers, and REL if you can afford them. Kali offers something unique as well. Otherwise just build a subwoofer. Screw making the box or cabinet. You can get them at good prices for cars. And then give them some TLC for the home. But at $300, I doubt you could do it that cheap. So yeah cool company. I heard only great things about their 12 inch subwoofer.
Hey! Would you recommend dual RSL 10Es to pair with dual SVS SB 2000 pro? My considerations compact size, performance, and price.
I'm against mixing brands of subwoofers, it can be done sometimes but generally it's not something I recommend.
I’ll wait for a good deal on the SB 1000 pros, I appreciate the advice
For home theater, would you do a pair of 10E's or a single 10s mkii in a medium size room? Only asking as the 10s gets lower.
Dual 10E for sure my bro. A couple hz isn’t enough to pass on dual subs.
Thank you! Hope to snag a pair when the next batch are available. I moved my 10s to my 2.1 system and really miss the deep base from my temporary standby sub.
Rel T5x is still better for music first right?
of course the baby 8" t5x cannot come close to having the output or extension of the larger 10E but yeah in terms of fidelity REL & Rythmik are in their own world.
Would it be good to pair this with a 10s mkii for home theater?
yes, do keep in mind if you push them to the absolute limit the 10E will hit its limit before the 10S, if you can afford to have them match do that but if you can't the 10E will tonally match the 10S no problem.
Will you review buchardt sub10?
Yes! Once units start shipping I should have one come my way :)
I have not heard it but OSD just came out with an interesting looking (on paper) 12" FS 12 at $300.
OSD is absolute junk in my opinion, they’d have to pay me to even consider it.
@@NemoPropaganda I have never tried them, they are new to me. What did you try? I thought you do not accept payments from companies?
@@madcrabber1113 it's a figure of speech, I did not mean the comment literally.
RSL seems to be for the people with these quality and lower priced subwoofers. Kudos to RSL!
We need RSL in Europe
Can't decide between......
RSL Speedwoofer 10E or Diesel Dz7313 Mr. Daddy 2.0 watch?
I think the 10E has way more output than the DZ7313 :)
You're doing a lot now for the world, to make up for being a troublesome teen, lol. I appreciate your hard work, and the audio community thanks you, as always.
This or REL t/zero for pure desktop nearfield music listening enjoyment?
Audioholics is going to measure one. I may get one for my desktop use as well, but waiting on the measurements.
watch my review of the Tzero, let me know if you have any questions after that.
The SVS PB-1000 is no longer available in the 10" non pro variant and I am curious if you would advise someone who has the budget for the new 12" SVS PB-1000 pro to save some money and get 2 of the RSL 10E's or still get a single PB-1000 pro?
why not just go for the 12s?
@@NemoPropaganda my bad I did not realize it was the same price as the PB1000 pro thanks bro.
@@yamafanboy yee! just be mindful of the size bro, the 12s is BIG!!! Outside of that the PB1000 Pro is a great alterantive if the 12S is too large. As far as PB1000 pro vers a pair of 10E, that's a tough call since I don't test max output.
Hey Nemo, first Happy Birthday to you. Hope you had a good time. I need your help please. I'm looking to buy a Pair (yes, 2) subwoofers to integrate in my small room. Size : 9.2ft W x 12.8ft L x 8ft H. I'm into music and music only and really need low extension but sound quality is definitely my priority so proper crossover to my mains is on top of my priority. My budget is very limited and would really love to get the best integration I could get. Been playing with REW Room simulation and know where to put those. The thing is that I am using a RME ADI-2 DAC FS and it only has one stereo output (Actually XLR and RCA but both cannot be EQ'd/filtered separately) . Which lead me to my issue. As much as I would love to get the Rythmik L12, I would also need to buy an External Crossover as there is no output on the L12. Now I have a few models in mind and would love to get your POV. By the way, my mains are Lipinski's L-707 Mastering monitors and I do Audio engineering so flat frequency response from 20hz to 20 khz and proper crossover is vital in my case. High output volume, is pretty much the least important thing in my use case. So I'm debating in buying a pair of those : SVS SB-1000 Pro, Rythmik L-12 or Paradigm Defiance V12 + Marchand Passive Crossover. Or would you suggest anything else ? My budget is 1600$ USD max and I need them ASAP as I'm working on a bass heavy project as we speak. Thanks a lot for your help.
Your room is small like mine, based on everything you're saying I'd suggest you go for a pair of REL 1003 MK2. They have outputs.
@@NemoPropaganda thank you very much. I really appreciate you taking the time.
Hey Buddy going to order 12s now can I get it sealed ? If not I will buy anyways or do you think 2x 10e would nw nest on a room 14ft x22ft and 17 panels 8 diffusers ' ceiling treatment as well ?
You the reason I am ordering today !
no, you should not seal the 12s, plugging the vent on a large vented sub will result in a sealed sub with a giant box and a high Q so it will be very underdamped, generally sounding sloppy and in a worse case scenario a reduction of power handeling that could cause damage. Some drivers can take abuse all day long in a vented enclosure, you put that smae driver in a sealed enclosure and it can fry with the same power or less. I'm not famliar enough wtih the RSL 12" driver to know how it would perform in a sealed enclousre but I know 100% there is not a 12" driver in the world that would perform well in a 4+ cuft enclosure :). Anywho, as far as dual 10E or dual 12s that's a tough call, there is a massive size & performance difference between the two. A pair of 12s will recreate reference theater in most room sizes. The 12s performs more like a compact vented 15" in terms of scale & output. If you want the big daddys def go for the 12s. If you don't want such behemoths in your room then the 10E are without a doubt the best subwoofer you can get at its price and easily rival some brands subwoofers up to $1000. Ultimately this just comes down to how much bass you want which is like how much sugar should you put in your sweat tea, everyones gonna have a difference answer since it's so personal :). Hope that helps though.
@NemoPropaganda ohh I was wondering if they build a sealed enclosure I may go with 1 12s for now small room 14ftx22ft I do like the high level inputs on 12s for my vintage intgrated Amps ' But me on the bench because 10e doesn't have high level input but 2 of them may have better balance in room than 1 12s ? And I don't have alot room ' I am more in to speed n upper bass punch than how low the sub can go'
I may call them I will tell then you the reasoning I am buying
@@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 if you need the high level why not just go for the 10s Mk2? That one has high level :). Based on everything you've said I think you will love the 12s so long as the physical size is not an issue, it's freaking big!!!!!!! You can also just use a high to low converter, it's not ideal but it works. ruclips.net/video/rQeYdz7vKqQ/видео.htmlsi=uoU1Z_cPDOTPAzGI
@NemoPropaganda yes I have used those converters before in car stereo ' thanks Nemo
This is where subwoofers should start, not the cheap mid mass modules $200-$400 Sony and Klipsch style ones we all know about that can't hit subwoofer frequencies.
The monoprice SW-15 is also 299 and on paper it has more output. Not sure about the reliability though
sooo that one is a bit of a marketing gimmick, heres why: they quote the extension as going down to 30hz but that's at minus 10dB! No other subwoofer manufacturer uses -10dB as a reference because it's so exaggerated, if the 10E extension was rated at -10dB it's extension would probably be 16hz!! But that's a BS exaggerated spec so RSL rates it properly at -3dB and it's still lower than the SW15. The reality is the SW15 cannot extend reliably below 40hz because it has a high port tuning frequency. That's a very poor design for music and even worse for theater, it'll have a strong 40-60hz region and that's about it. It's essentially a narrowband one note wonder. But I will admit that kind of tuning is well suited to playing very loud so if you need a big party sub the SW15 will get the job done, I just wouldn't use it for anything besides parties or small DJ setup where sound quality is not a factor.
RSL is a legitimate speaker company. Big difference. I used to work for the owner. He has a passion for what he does. Monoprice sells evertying under the sun, sort of like a flea market - junk
Good on you nemo for becoming a better son, and trying to make up for the way you gave your ma a bit of hell lol, clearly she was a good mother to earn your repayment!
Toyotas are just better, -a ford guy.
Two 10e’s or one 10s?
I’m torn between the 10e or 10s. If I got a 10e I’d probably get another one in the future to pair with it.
Dual 10E all day long brother!
@@NemoPropagandathanks man! This is what I was thinking. And thanks for responding. No one ever seems to respond to any comments on their videos.
@@jameshastings6538anytime man, I’m always around!
So the rsl 10e or 10s mkii or rel t9x? Mainly for living room system both 2 channel and some movies....have dedicated theater room. Run rsl bookshelves 3.1... i can purchase duals in either of these. Thoughts??
those are two extremely different subwoofers my bro, I don't gernerally get people cross shopping those two models. What do you want from your subwoofer?
@@NemoPropaganda Thanks for the reply. I want a subwoofer that is musical, accurate, has clean bass notes. This is the main tv in the home for watching sports, shows & few movies from netflix etc when we dont want to climb stairs to watch in home theater. Find myself listening to music on this system more often now though. Having the ability to place 2nd sub anywhere in the room is a bonus so wireless ability is good although it may not be completely necessary. I currently have 1 10s mkii and was going to add another OR maybe go rel route if there was justification for doing so.
@@theoallen100 generally if someone is happy with the sub they have and they want more adding a second matching sub is what I recommend. You certainly can ditch what you have an go in another direction but I'd only recommend that if you were unhappy with your current subs sound signature or aspects of its performance. The REL T9X and RSL Speedwoofer simply don't belong in the same conversation. If you have the speedwoofer and you're looking for an upgrade the path would be to go duals or if you want different subs the next step up would be something like a Rythmik LV12M or if you want to keep things small the XTZ 10.17 Edge is also fantastic.
@@NemoPropaganda thanks for your honest input and guidance! (Huge performance car guy as well bro!) So after thinking about this more, and reviewing specs, I'm now wondering if the S510 should be on my radar as a possible single sub solution? (Would prefer single vs. duals to conserve floor space) The Rythmik's size is the only issue for me since it's in my living room and I just ordered the SF Lumina II 3.1 system after hearing those. Thoughts on if the S510 is too large or too much?
@@theoallen100 hmmm, the RSL Speedwoofer 10s is a vented 10" and can play very loud for how small it is, the REL S510 is an absolutely outstanding subwoofer but it is a sealed 10", I can't be sure it will be enough for you or not. How much bass is enough is a very difficult question to answer because everyones room and taste for bass are different. It's like how spicy is spicy enough, everyone will feel differently.
What receiver would you run this subwoofer with?? Affordable??
My favorite ultra affordable amp is RSL's own iA255.1, you can see my review here: ruclips.net/video/STZgj6W94Hs/видео.htmlsi=nTGBdAtPEPSuGGHd if you want something physically larger the next step up would be something like the Emotiva TA1.
What would be the point of an aluminum dust cap over the entire driver if the driver is already a good material?
I’m not sure. Could be aesthetics, could be to further stiffen the cone while keeping the weight low.
When is the 12E coming!!!???
I wouldn't hold your breath.
Too bad it doesn’t come in white. I guess I’m still getting the 10S when it’s back in stock.
For truly high-end, nothing beats the continuously variable phase shift available from the SVS Pros -- and you can tune it on your phone -- from your listening position. Until subs and mains are phase-aligned, you're are going to have cancellations. A simple phase-flip switch doesn't cut it.
this sub has variable phase, a buddy can twist the knob as you sit in the seat, not too big a difference in terms of setup. People have been dialing in subs without a cellphone app for decades :)
Listening? If you’re serious then you’d use a UMIK-1 and do REW sweeps and use the time alignment tool, not blindly guess with your ears. Everyone who cares about their setup should have one.
@@andrewskaterrri own a umik and have rew and guess what, I can still setup my system by ear just as well so you can go ahead and shut tf up now and take your judgemental attitude somewhere else.
@@NemoPropaganda Understand, but I cycle between three sets of speakers depending on my use case. Since I can save a sub config for each pair it is very convenient. Just pull up the app, select preset... My suggestion for SVS is to be able to group subs and select a preset for the group. (I have dual SB1000s.)
@@michaelsparrow4798 in that case the SVS app is a massive quality of life improvement for you so I totally get it :)
Can we buy RSL in europe?
I do not represent the brand, please email RSL.
Damn brother! All this for $299.00? You know they'll sell out quick b.
BTW - the JBL Sub550P power is 300 watts rms / 550 watts peak, so at 800 watts peak, this is fuckin killer!
Yes! I looked it up afterwards out of curiousity lol, I was surprised to see that because the 10E is so much better.