Why I changed my mind about getting the Classic blu-ray collections │Doctor Who
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- Опубликовано: 22 дек 2020
- When the BBC started releasing Doctor Who the Collection with Season 12 i decided i WASN'T going to get them, and a little while later I made a video explaining why.
fast forward a year and a half.... and I've changed my mind. Here's why
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"A shelf with all formats of all stories in chronological order". YES! Fantastic, I have the same idea and I'm glad that I'm not alone.
It’s the dream. One day I may have space to realise it. Yes, one day.
I'm not just a big fan of Doctor Who but I love Other film series and TV shows so room is the most important thing.
I'm a big fan of classic archive television.
Old Doctor Who's on DVD then when they were released a season box sets The classic who are decided to by the standard editions then the stories that go with this Seasons I've getting rid of the DVDs to upgrade to Blu-ray wow Quality special features stunning.
The thing that sold me on it was the idea that you’d own the classic series in full season sets for the first time and extra bonus features that range from exploring the past and the impact of the legacy of the show.
Since 90 plus episodes are missing we're never going to get them all and season 4 is problematic.....
I'm glad that they have started releasing them in standard Blu-ray packaging, I was never too keen on the original special packaging, plus they are/were more expensive. All that on top of now I won't have to worry about being quick to get them since I know they are going to be there.
Yes it’s great they’ve done that. I jumped on board before they were announced though so am sticking with the limited editions now
Everyone caves in eventually. Hope you’re enjoying them Phil.
I haven’t had a chance to get through them all so far but loving the special features on the ones I have watched.
One thing I would love to see in the new releases (which none have done so far) is to have the option of seeing each Doctor Who story edited together in “movie mode” where it’s not broken up into episodes. Just like how it was when I watched it on PBS as a kid.
That would be an interesting way to present them. I can’t see the harm in offering it as an option as long as individual episode way is also on the disc.
@@CulturePhilter hard to say if it’s better or worse but I always preferred it. I remember not even being aware the show was broken into 20 minute episodes until I bought my first VHS of it and being really put off by constantly going to credits and coming back. It’s just so jarring if that’s not what you’re used to.
Fun to see how a difference a year can make! Pleased to hear you address your old video and the reasons why you changed your mind etc. Nice to see you've caught up and hope you'd had a merry christmas mate!!!
Gallifreyforever97 - merry Christmas to you too.
I missed the boat but quite a lot so every set it now really expensive! That hasn’t stopped me though as I Pre-ordered Season 8 and thinking about getting some of the “cheaper” ones that are available for £70-80 like Seasons 14, 23 and 26
Given they rereleased Season 12 and I think have announced one more rerelease (or maybe it’s already happened, I didn’t follow the news on it as I didn’t need it by that point) there is a chance the rest will be as well.
It's been a year! time flies hahaha, also OMFG you catched up quick with the collection :O
I had to, before the ones that were still available started selling out. 😄
If u have a blu ray player, it’s really worth just buying Blu Rays in general. Your screen is prob 1080p at least so having native res content is much better.
I initially had the same thought as you about buying the Blu Rays. But luckily I changed my mind before S12 was gone from shelves in Australia.
TheTraveller777 - maybe. To be honest I don’t buy much on home media these days anyway. Mostly just Doctor Who due to space.
Ooh, logos! My OCD kicked in when Big Finish rebranded halfway through the 8th Doctor boxsets and after 20 years of collecting finally persuaded me to go download-only. Think I buy the Blu-rays mostly for the immersive documentaries and still love discovering little nuggets of the production history.
Yes, that happened on Ravenous 2 and Time War 2 didn’t it? It would have been ok if it had happened for the first set in each of those series but to happen once they had already started those runs was annoying.
When Phil heard they were gonna remake the giant rat in Chiang, thats when he knew he needed it :D
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They're great sets! I'm only collecting the Pertwee ones myself but I will say, it is pretty great imagining what the entire Blu-ray sets are going to look like on a shelf (shelves!) when they're all out.
Keep watching my videos and one day they’ll all be behind me. 😁
Neat video sir! I'm glad they are re-releasing them again in slimmer packaging, and a fair bit cheaper.
What do you think of the quality of the picture. I like what you said about the logo, on the season 8 box set one thing has changed which irratates me slightly. The BBFC rating background has changed and looks odd.
Glad you did, this is probably the best Classic Who is ever gonna look and the sets are definitely worth it.
It's absolutely lovely the bluray's are all in one box, rather than the classic dvds which have their own issues. Some would be available to buy, some would be a part of its own boxset. It just got frustrating because I'd have to resort to Ebay for them separately.
Yes for the most part having them in season box sets is handy…. I’m still keeping all my DVDs as well though 😄
@@CulturePhilter I get that, and honestly same. I have the original boxset for 'Trial of a Timelord' alongside some of the DVD's I'd collect every Sunday in The Sun, remember those? :D
@@TekwizStudios never got them myself. Couldn’t bring myself to buy The Sun even for free Doctor Who 😄
@@CulturePhilter Yeah I get that, that was back when I was a kid during the whole reboot of Doctor Who back in around 2005-2006 atleast so it was a long time ago. :D
I changed my mind last year too. I had all of the Classic DVDs, all of them. What mainly brought it on was moving house, at which point I really realised how much physical media I own. These box sets simply take up far less space than the DVDs, on top of all the actual improvements on the disk like the remastering and the new bonus features. I've gone for the standard editions, so I'm 5 sets behind everyone else, but I'm getting there.
Did you completely get rid of the DVDs as and when you get the same episodes in collections? Or just putting them in storage?
Hi can you tell me what's the picture quality like on the Blu Rays compared to the dvds , is there a noticable difference? I have the classics on Dvd and was thinking of buying the Blu rays but they are very expensive especially on ebay .
Thanks 👍
David PamScottlia - I haven’t done a side by side comparison.
I am glad you chose to buy them. Nice work getting them, I keep looking and it’s a real challenge.
Yeah, luckily I made the decision when only two of the sets had completely sold out and one of them they’ve already rereleased.
@@CulturePhilter it’s annoying for me because I started looking the same time as you and never found anything. Hoping for a re release
Dan Johnson - ah that sucks.
Haha I thought you might have changed your mind! I missed Season 12 but had to fork out £100 for a second hand copy but have been pre-ordering since Season 19. I've found myself putting money away to prepare for future releases and the lockdown helped a great deal as it gave me more time to save up the cash to afford them!
The lock down helped me massively because I wasn’t spending literally thousands of pounds throughout the year for a train ticket to work 😄
I hope Pertwee's second season gets a standard soon, The special edition is OOP and expensive and I want to watch Terror of the Autons with the updated F/X.
I hope when they release the Hartnell/Troughton sets they leave gaps for the missing episodes if they're ever found/Animated.
Curious to see what they do (or not do) with seasons 1 - 6 with all the incomplete / missing stories.
Hopefully animations if they can get them done in time.
Well, I just got Season 8, luckily. Because Amazon UK cancelled all pre-orders from outside the UK in late December.
The grey market prices for the box sets are ridiculous, but fortunately the BBC announced today that there will be an unlimited edition in normal packaging, so I hope that prices will drop.
I have recently been buying the Doctor Who collection season Blu-rays absolutely amazing the special features just blew me away.
so all the stories I had on DVD that I now on the season collection Blu-rays I have sold CeX then when I get the voucher I put them towards the Blu-rays collection Seasons because for me it's all about shelf space then I have the space I can add other series I really want to collect. I do have some big Finish audio but mainly it's BBC audio radio dramas I have of Doctor Who. Not only am I a fan or the Doctor Who series I love the carry-on series James Bond have it Blu-rays as well. ❤
The special features were I think the biggest reason I changed my mind and got them. I went to one of the BFI screenings where they previewed them and thought they were so good I had ti get them.
Pre-ordering generally doesn't cost you anything if you use a credit or debit card with a website like Amazon or Zavvi. They only charge your card when the order is ready to ship. So as long as you have the funds available by the time the set ships, you're good. If you don't have the funds, you can cancel before it ships. If you pre-order on a website that takes Paypal, then funds are usually taken from your account right away.
My original point (in the first video) was I couldn’t guarantee I’d be able to afford each release before it sold out, and it would bug me no end to have a gap. If I couldn’t be sure I could get all of them I’d almost rather not have started collecting them.
As a 4K nerd.... I am offended.
Jessie Gender - I apologize on behalf of my standard definition DVD collection 😄
our stories behind this is almost identical. my reasons for not originally picking them up where pretty much the same. and it was after the announcement of the s12 rerelease and a friend on twitter plus the extras that tipped me. i was so super lucky picking the ones i missed up on ebay at roughly retail price and one just under so it balanced out. and honestly i regret nothing aha...... so far, budget depending in future perhaps
I was also lucky that the most I had to pay was £10 over retail price for a set.
If you did miss out on one you could always buy the US version or Australian version because they are all region free
6sek - yes but those version are in standard Blu-ray cases. It would look very odd on my shelf.
@@CulturePhilter Not the Australian versions
6sek - oh? Do they get the proper boxes like us in UK?
@@CulturePhilter They are almost the same as the uk ones bar a couple of changes in the cardboard flaps
I've heard somewhere that Russell T Davies intends to keep the Whittaker logo on the blu ray boxsets!!!
Yes I’ve seen that too. A big relief.
Yeah that's been confirmed. Probably the only range that will keep it tbh
Yeah, I remember seeing that somewhere. Smart move, bit of a dumb move if they just started using the new diamond variants because it would be more inconsistency in home media release logos. 😆
Fair enough, it's your money and it's your collection but I'm still not convinced to shell out the precious cash I have on the box sets (even for the bonus features). Also the reissue of season 12 is a once in a blue moon event and I doubt it will ever happen again. I've just finished my DVD collection and say for any future animated recons to replace my burnt discs I will be resuming with my main collection.
DVD and Film Bloke - that’s fair enough. I completely understand someone taking that decision.
The extra features were the biggest selling points for me especially because I don’t have a blu ray player. Also being remote there would be no way I could guarantee to get them all no matter where from, I also don’t personally trust the Mail with Big Finish CDs let alone DVDs.
Also if I bought 1 set I would have to buy all of them which (while I could definitely do) I didn’t want to put £1040 away just for DVDs
I also agree with the logo, look at the new who Blu rays.
Oh yeah, my new Who bit of the shelf stresses me out a little bit. Not only different logo but completely different size and shape boxes too.
I didn't start this collection until into box set release number 5 I think. Still missing season 19 though.
Had to pay over £200 just to get seasons 10 and 18 off eBay.
I didn't want to collect these due to their price on the second hand market. But seeing as they're being/been released and at a more reasonable price, I am tempted :)
If you can afford them I’d say the new special features are worth it.
@@CulturePhilter oh definitely! I've seen what they've done with Terror of the autons and I love the squid effect for the nestene
Did you pre order season 8 I did
Lewis Frisby - I did indeed
I knew you'd see sense! 😂😂
Custard Timelord 😄
You see online comparison videos and the difference in image quality appears negligible, but having seen the HD Blu-Ray quality versions available on Pluto TV, I was actually surprisingly impressed by how good they look. I assumed that seeing those bubble wrap monsters in HD would be self-defeating, making it seem more tacky, but actually it gives me greater appreciation for how cool those practical effects and costumes were. You can see a great level of detail any time there's a closeup shot of an actor or prop. Otherwise, from a distance the improvement over DVD quality is negligible. But in those few moments of close-up, you can definitely tell it looks better than any previous release. Best part of it all is, they still feel like 70s television. A lot of the times Blu-Ray modern re-releases completely erase the "feel" of the original era which feels like whitewashing history and erasure of culture from the record, but these Blu-Rays thankfully don't do that. They retain that same feel that the episodes deserve.
You don't need a wall of DVD's in 2021. If you can condense all the episodes to a handful of stylish boxsets, It's a no brainer. Plus as the added bonus you get better quality, more features, less space taken up.
You don’t NEED them no. I do still want them though 😄
Where's your season 8 unboxing video 😢
Did I say I was going to do one then?
I think you were right first time-Season 12 on Amazon troday- 1 left at £114.99. Of course it is up to everyone to make their choice but seriously -does anyone believe that is a fair price?
Hari Seldon - I guess the reissues have now also sold out then. So it’s back to 2nd hand and extortionate prices.
Interesting!
You’d need a book shelf the length of a train lol
They do look amazing. I've got nothing to play it on unfortunately, not even a Next-Gen console. SO yeah, I don't own a single one.
And yeah, I get your point about the use of the logo. Why can't they just do what Big Finish have been doing with their audios and have the corresponding Doctors' logo on each one to signify each era?
I do like having one logo on everything. If I could trust that they would stick to that logo.
@@CulturePhilter What about Big Finish, do you like the alternate covers they have?
Arkham Ben17 - I think it’s great that they have the reservable cover option for those that want it but I tend to keep it on the standard one.
@@CulturePhilter I've always done it when I started building up my Monthly range collection, I've also done it with The Lost Stories and Classic Doctors New Monsters set.
I wish I started buying them earlier as I started buying them from season 23 and since I bought the season 12 rerelease so I am missing 3 and there too expensive for me to buy now.
Jamie Aspinall - hopefully they’ll also rerelease the ones you’re missing too.
If you’ve got a multiregionaal DVD player the North American ones aren’t limited edition and you can still buy them all. There missing most of lee bindings art, which is a shame, but the disk content is the same
Jake Rue - that gets you the content but not the beautiful boxes
I do prefer the ascetic of the DVDs. I may start the blu rays at Christmas mostly to have tbe missing ones on reckons.
Season 2 will currently top of my list.
That second comment became a little rant and personally that it probably should have been. These are just DVDs for an old tv show. Maybe when they realise “the Complete X Doctor Collection” I’ll get that
I have every one except season 18 and it is really expensive now
Oh that’s a shame. Is that one that already got a rerelease? I know they announced another one after season 12 but not sure if it came out or not yet.
Get out of my head! I swear I could have made this video almost point for point... but with an American twist.
I chose not to start collecting these because I was very close to completing my U.S. DVD collection. I felt like I didn't need the duplication and anyway, I was disappointed that the beautiful limited edition versions didn't appear to be coming out here. By the time I realized that was the case I had missed out on Season 12 and I couldn't bear either paying the ridiculous price OR having an incomplete set. By this time I had seen some of the new features and really regretted my decisions all-around. So... when they announced the re-release of Season 12 I finally bought my region-free BluRay player, preordered the set, and found the others for not-much-more-than-retail. I've been pre-ordering them ever since.
I love your idea of ordering the stories based on when they happen in the Doctor's timeline... but I'm afraid my particular brand of OCD wouldn't allow it! I'll be keeping DVDs, Blu-Rays, books, and audio separate on my personal Doctor Who shelf (shrine?).
Anyway, I completely relate to your obsession and thought process and this video had me smiling the whole way through. :)
Yeah there are downsides to my chronological ordering. It’s terrible optimization of space as every shelf gap would have to be that of the tallest item on it (probably the collected DWM comics) so I’d need much more shelf space than ordering by media type. I honestly doubt I’d ever have the space to actually do it.
CONFESS! Philip we all know they used the MIND PROBE on you.... 'changed' your mind???
Likely story.... *frowns and rolls his eyes*.
Merry Christmas and a happy new year!
NOT THE MIND PROBE!!! 😄
@@CulturePhilter "And may my bones rot for obeying it" - "Twin Dilemma"
@@CulturePhilter "And may my bones rot for obeying it" - "Twin Dilemma"
They are just too expensive for me at the moment. Also I would rather spend my money on a new Doctor Who story rather than one I already own and I've pretty much run out of space hehe.
Yeah I understand both those reasons. Given my current space situation I’m going to have to start putting the DVDs into storage soon.
@@CulturePhilter Most of mine are in boxes at the moment but new stuff is just sitting on top of them so the storage plan isn't really working. I might have to stop buying CDs from Big Finish after Masterful I don't have anywhere to put them.
Guy Grist - with Big Finish I tend to stick to 8th Doctor and Gallifrey stuff on physical media and get the rest download only. Although I’m almost out of shelf space for those too. I can maybe fit 3 more boxsets in.
Dear oh dear, another Soul lost. 😿
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Crazy how much some go for on eBay 😲
Indeed.
So far I only have the season 12 one.
Will you be trying to get the rest?
@@CulturePhilter I would if they were cheap enough.
I hate the 13th doctor logo & that's one of the reasons I'd not want to buy them. I do like your DVD collection bookshelf idea, would like to see that whenever that eventually happens.
I just need to keep hold of all of the books, DVDs and audios in storage until the kids move out and THEN I might have space. So probably another 18 or so years time.
I have a terrible habit of building up collections and discarding them. I never got past vol 50 of Peanuts papebacks, I gave up on Target books when they came out so often I couldn't afford them. Also, I look at all these products and get depressed by the amount of money they represent. Now I am quite elderly I see so many people selling off their collections of stuff or just dying leaving rooms filled with things that have gone from realy important to utterly pointless. Happy Christmas! Buy more stuff!
Tymbus - I know that feeling. About 15 years ago I completed buying friends on VHS. The last two season of which I never once even put in a VHS player. I just felt I had to finish what I’d started. It’s not a great impulse really.
Im going to wait all of them to come out
Presumably you’re just getting the standard editions then?
@CulturePhilter yes and I like your idea of having the books comics and audio dramas and the show in one big time
@@zachmegna7003 thanks…I just wish I had the space to do it.
I respect your opinion, but I still disagree. I'm probably going to sell my DVDs and just watch them on britbox, or I'll just continue getting the DVDs.
I just think that these blu rays are too expensive.
gsam2020 - that’s fair enough. I actually think for the amount of stories you tend to get on them they are better value than the DVDs when they first came out but it’s a big outlay at once.
Since Bonus Features have started to disappear from DVDs and with DVDs now getting cheaper due to many now being available online I’ve also now gotten an odd relationship with DVDs as while I should probably buy the physical edition and can always own it I don’t really want to.
Also since series 9 I’ve kinda been Disenfranchised by the Doctor Who brand, this resurfaced again this year with how shoddily the Time Lord Victorious was being marketed & how the bbc has a whole has kinda given up with the show again. The fact that the bbc are slowly becoming more Tory doesn’t help.
The official Doctor Who Facebook page hasn’t been updated at all since Whittaker took over the role and for me that kinda compounds the fact that overall the bbc just want my money even if these Blu ray sets are made by people who actually care
To be honest I think the Facebook thing is just a strategic decision based on the fact that they have decided social media effort is more worthwhile going into Twitter.
If you are worried about logos and suchlike you seriously need to broaden your life massively.
You know it’s ok to have opinions on trivial things right? Like, it doesn’t affect my day to day life. I just don’t want them to change the logo and have odd looking shelves. 🤷♂️
Ah, I was hoping you were getting rid of them. It's harder for Americans to get them because we can't preorder until 30 days prior to release day. Sadly, I missed out on Season 14 and now it's become rather pricey to acquire.
Rory_Pond - oh no. Are you collecting the UK ones then? As opposed to the US releases which are in normal Blu-Ray cases?
@@CulturePhilter For my sins, I am. Or rather, was. Losing out on Season 14 has provided me a natural stopping point, although if Season 8 remains available at the retail price point when preorders are open to import buyers, I may get it.
Rory_Pond - I don’t blame you. The UK boxes are beautiful. Even though it’s the same artwork it just doesn’t look the same in a standard Blu-ray case
@@CulturePhilter There's another factor involved: the US versions are horribly mistitled. Season 12 is called "Tom Baker Season 1." Try making sense of that on your shelves. It's madness!
Rory_Pond - yeah that was a really weird choice.
Why would anyone buy Season 18 or Season 23 on Blu Ray!
Why wouldn’t they?
@@CulturePhilter I think they are universally accepted as being not very good. So why issue 18 and 23 before a whole load of seasons that are way way better. Even if you are Colin Baker fan, 22 is better than 23, and anything Tom Baker did prior to 18 is better.
Neddy Stark - that’s an argument about which they should release in why order. But I suspect most people will be buying the whole set if they can rather than just cherry-picking their favorite seasons so given that season 18 and 23 HAVE been released obviously those that want a complete set will probably buy it.
@@CulturePhilter Fair point 😊 I have all the DVDs, so just want to Blu Ray my faves, so have already ordered the re-issue of 12 and 19 👍
Because it's leaving Netflix? 😂
😄 i don’t think the classic series ever was on there was it? It is on Britbox though.
@@CulturePhilter No it wasn't i was just joking. It's annoying because i'm rewatching Doctor Who with Starfleet Boy and i watch it on Netflix. I'll have to find another way.
That was fun, I enjoyed my little cameo at the end. All very fair reasons, I'm still not getting these, but there's a lot of great stuff in there that would be great draws to me, my main reason is that I don't have a Blu-ray player, otherwise I probably would try and get these, especially now I have the whole dvd collection, so I don't have much spending needing done on those anymore. I feel like the more time passes the less likely I am to actually get round to getting them. Who can say though, never say never
ohmydinosare - yeah not having a blu-ray player might be a hinderance if you bought them. Although I think you can pick up a player quite cheap these days.
ohmydinosare - and thanks for doing the camera.
I collect the Blu Ray boxsets. I don't want the billions of DVD's.
Yeah the blu-rays are a shelf space saver.... unfortunately I’ve now decided to just get and keep both the DVDs AND blu-rays so it hasn’t helped me there 😄
Weak.
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@@CulturePhilter 🙂