How to avoid being replaced by Ai Art
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A person commented this gem:
"I'm motivated by spite honestly. I refuse to let some soulless algorithm outdo me as a flesh and blood being with a mind and soul. I believe human artists are always superior because of that, and I'm not willing to give up. AI will never be the next Beksinski or Goya, but people like us can be"
I think it's a good mindset to have especially in these trying times. Spread the word, folks
thank youuu
That sounds all cool but who really thought the next Goya would be threatened by "AI" anytime soon? The threat is for the masses of commercial artists and not the handful of fineart superstar unicorns. The threat is also about the ramifications of being able to utilize big data for private profits within a capitalist system. On the one hand we need big data and algos to find patterns if we want to better understand climate modeling for example. On the other hand we seem to be pretty blindly walking into a neo-feudal world where a handful of private owners assert unheard of levels of power over the rest of humanity (and we haven't even started talking about biotech in the mainstream). People are distracted by flashy Stable Diffusion generations but those behind the development of these technologies don't aim to create tools for the masses. They want AGI if possible and if by that time we haven't changed the economic and social systems keeping humanity away from chaos it won't matter how many people, out of spite, try to become the next Goya.
@@LarsRichterMedia thank you for the motivation. Now I REALLY want to be the next Goya 🙏
@@teru_9921 absolutely go for it!
that's the spirit! art is from humans, not machines
As terrible as AI Art is right now, it's good to focus on what artists can bring to the table. The situation has brought me to reevaluate why I draw, and has pushed me to focus more on projects that push my limits and help me grow. I have heard it's doing the same for some others. Good video.
Same, when I asked myself why I draw, I had to really think about it. I actually pulled out all of my sketchbooks and when looking through them, I knew the answer and I became even prouder of being an artist. Let's not give up, let's push forward!
you shouldn't worry about AI art because unlike AI you actually own the images you make
It's actually the opposite of terrible
@Keshuel stop spamming
AI is a crime, a crime against human identity, AI in art productions has to be identified and boycotted.
As someone who continues to commission artists and has studied art for over 20 years, I deeply resonate with the sentiment of this video. However, I think it underestimates thr pace at which the AI art generators and our interactions with them are evolving. These tools have gone from creating laughable, nightmarish constructs to pieces indistinguishable from that of a human artist and/or photographer in a relatively short period. Development is ongoing regarding how precisely we interact and interrogate these tools. I believe human created art will continue to have a space in the market. I think just like we have mass-produced clothes that can be bought cheaply, but also have handmade attire for significantly more. We will see mass generative art for very cheap, but human art will be valued for the high street market. (None of this to address Artist copyrights, just humanity's interaction with this emerging technology)
If you can't distinguish AI art from an artist hand, then your claim to have studied art for 20 years is highly suspect. :/
@@MrRossT1 In OP's defense, I've gone to art school and been tricked a bit too, especially if the prompter spends an extra half-hour cleaning up the "debris". I'm already nervous to have seen some AI pieces that can get all 5 fingers in.
There are too many variables to consider, and one can easily get into a philosophical "what is art?" Sort of question. To keep it somewhat brief, there are already models capable of producing human and/or animal figures with the correct number of appendages. Even the ones that aren't great at such features will get it right if the person "rerolls" the prompt enough times. Also, we are talking about a rapidly evolving technology. The core of my earlier statement is that we cannot judge it or ascribe techniques to challenge it solely based on its current state since it is changing so rapidly and there are so many versions of it being developed. Could one tell when zoomed in that the brush strokes, the pencil lines, etc. don't quite line up with how such media is rendered by real-world instruments? Mostly, yes, but it would be nigh impossible to scrutinize every image one looks at with that level of detail. Also, most of the images generated with AI are relatively low resolution, 1 megapixel or so, I believe. That is mostly a limitation that stems from system resources available for the millions of queries reaching those servers at any given moment, not from the capabilities of the underlying AI software. Also, platforms like MidJourney already generate accurate fingers at first, but get it wrong during the upscaling process.
What I interpret from the video is that in spite of the capabilities of AI software, there will continue to be a space for human artist and the thoughtfulness that comes from a human mind laying down one line after another. I believe that sentiment to be true. I further believe that there will continue to be a place in the market for human-made art, be it traditional or digital. However, I would like to clarify that the way AI image/video generators operate is evolving faster than most of us are used to. We have somewhat become used to technology giving us a new iPhone, for example, on a yearly basis. AI is changing on more like a weekly basis.
This is a massively complex subject. One well worthy of different interpretations and lines of thought. I believe it to be something worth trying to understand as it will likely affect our lives in some fashion and it is unlikely we can truly put the genie back in the bottle.
@@MrRossT1 do you even understand what the op said?
@@Sela2125 art is subjective. Art is a descriptor. There is art in everything.
Question: Can't artists sue AI developers for using their art without permission or payment in their machine learning cycles?
no
Technically. Practically sue billion dollar company is very hard, weak attempts will only create bad precedent. There's things organized right now, they might succeed or not in future.
It's going to happen soon if it's not happening already.
Yes, but I heard it can take 5 years for class action lawsuit to get to the courts so it will take a long time orz. At least there is a class action lawsuit against copilot OpenAi that got started
Artists are astoundingly bad at legality and business. So even if they can, they won't
Dont give up guys, dont let ai discourage your creative drive. Keep going!
all this AI fearmongering! Will people relax... the world will need people, people created AI to help not to replace.... you dont want to be working for companies that want a bank of machines instead of a room full of passionate souls.... that goes for everything..... unless Ai can bring personality, charisma, charm, passion, fight for whats on the page, argue the toss with me or change my mind etc..... you cant have a creative meeting with Ai where everyone bounces ideas
@@antwango My problem with it is how art AIs get to take copyrighted images whereas the music AIs are prohibited to do so. The music AIs rely only on copyright free music. It’s the level of bias that bothers me.
I'd be discourage if all I do is prompt on a machin, no reason to be discourage at all, creative people will always standout regardless of time.
@@antwango I’d recommend spending some time talking with chatgpt. They’re starting to seem less soulless. My biggest concern about all this ~soul~ stuff we all believe is that it’s not that significant and that AI will be able to be charismatic and charming or whatever you said. Easterners practiced the same martial arts for literally thousands of years but with MMA now we see the vast majority of it is pretty useless. Some judo and some good kicks make it in but all the most dominant players are wrestlers and kickboxers. Perhaps our souls are overrated
@antwango "AI can bring charm" I'd argue not. And quit calling people rightfully being concerned as "fear mongering"
Thanks for this video, this is probably one of the biggest concerns an artist has to face in the modern day
not just artists! you dont need to worry!
TBH my pov i dont think AI will be able to really replace the human.... until the AI has a soul?
If it attains the soul then its no longer AI its no longer artifical?
erm lets not get too deep... this will take us down a big deep ghost in the shell matrix rabbit hole i dont have the time for lol
i dont know where this AI fearmongering is coming from tbh, if it is to be then it will replace every single person working...
not just artists, the stupid boss at the top making the "artistic" "Creative" decisions or not making the decisions....
management is most peoples problem anyway.... ahhh im digressing into a rant....
In summary WE ALL STILL NEED HUMANS!!!
ONLY the bean counters the boardroom the shareholders would like machines that churn out endless creativity without hassle or feedback etc
My gist is dont worry! You most likely cant do anything about it anyway unless youre NOT HUMAN..... Just be human and do your best without sacrificing what is uniquely you! No one wants to turn you into a machine!! I dont think!
if the world is going to reject humans lol then there is seriously something wrong at the top!
You may be able to use this tech to your advantage for a short period of time but if you take a look at how fast this tech is evolving, you have to be very naive as content creator to not think that you are embracing your own death sentence (that's why creators like Samdoeasart, Greg Rutkowski, Karla Ortiz, etc hates AI art). The reality is that the days of content creation as we know it are going to go extinct.
I used to think that digital artists could fight back AI generated content by taking advantage of our "human factor" (aspects that humans are good at and AI is not) but the reality is that AI doesn't need to be human, sentient, understand context or human feelings to create content that appeals to normal people. Humans are already playing with these AI tools giving away all the information that developers need to fine tune them to please people. In a few years, these AIs will be able to create high quality output (art, animations, photos, videos..) for the average public and you won't be able to fight back that huge tsunami of generated content. Even if you produce good content, you are going to get buried anyways by the amount of content generated per second. Social media algorithms won't be there to save you. If you think it's already hard to grow a fanbase and make a living as independent artist, wait a few years. It's going to be a nightmare.
Every time you see an AI developer telling you that this is "just another tool" to empower existing artists, take into account that it's just a lie to calm you down so you don't make too much noise about it. These AIs have not been designed with professional artists in mind. Professional artists never have been part of the equation. You only have to see how they promote their AI products. AI end goal is to get so good that your service as professional artist won't be longer needed. It may bring "creative power" to the average person that creates as a hobby, but it's going to destroy multiple professional markets in the process (not just art). The industrial revolution changed everything, many jobs were destroyed but you still needed people to manipulate the machines. People were trained to use the machines instead. A big amount of human power was still required. However, this "conversion" won't happen with AI. AI doesn't require an army of artists to operate. In a few years, your 90 years old grandma will be able to outmatch in quality and quantity the output of 100 actual human artists in their entire lifetime using her smartphone. It sounds like a joke but it's not. AI is evolving at the speed of light. One week feels like a year.
As side note, I've always loved tech and as a former 3D worker, the idea of play with new tools to generate ideas is something that I've always loved. I really tried to be optimistic about AI generated content but after follow the developers behind these projects, check how many open source models are in the public domain already and how fast the technology is evolving, it's impossible to not have a very pessimistic vision of what it's about to happen to the art market. Many artists are embracing AI like is just another tool, like digital drawing tools were in the past, or 3D. I understand them. They don't want to be the "boomer" of the group saying "new tech bad" because that usually doesn't age well. However this time the difference is crystal clear. AI is not here to empower professional artists, but to replace them. You won't have the chance to "adapt" to this new "tool" for too long. Once the AI is improved and polished, you won't be necessary anymore. If you are confident as an artist because you think these AI art generators are close to peak in quality then get ready for a big disappointment.
To be honest, the only semi-realistic ray of hope I have right now is the creation of a legal framework that would allow professional artists and AI generated content to coexist in a fair way for both parties. However, even if that's possible, it will probably happen when it's too late.
Only artists with nothing to offer fear A.I.
@@MrRossT1 Oh really? so why Greg Rutkowski, Karla Ortiz, Samdoesart, Patrick Ballesteros, ..... and almost 90% artist in websites like artstation are trying to regulate this new technology? Yea sure they probably dont have nothing to offer right?
@@yukihira8232 Karla Ortiz ripped off many artists at Concept Art Artelier, PuddnHead being one of those, so no, she ain't original! Patrick Ballesteros borrows much from Cory Loftis! So give me a break! Samdoesart is a typical RossDraws clone! You never see RossDraws complaining about AI art, you never see Alex Ross complaining about AI art. Artists who offer value don't complain. Artists who offer no value complain.
Honestly I will keep going with my own craft and continue improving my skills, I really don’t care how is AI going to really impact in the near future, whether it is going to replace us or not I will still continue to draw by hand because I fricking love it. Sure it is disheartening to see how AI creates insane artwork in seconds but I still keep going anyways, the process of crafting is what really makes it unique and you cannot go through the whole craft if you use AI.
Yeah I just love the process instead of result its kinda relaxing
Facts! When you're passionate about something, it becomes you. And nothing can stop you from being that way. The process of creating art using your own creativity and imagination will always be beautiful. But I can admit, sometimes it can be disheartening for artists when they see their artwork gets stolen, and replaced for AI's credit.
AI has been used in clerical, software development and VFX for decades. You just haven't noticed.
I commend you and you are a real artist. I have 0 respect for people getting dishearted or thretened by AI art. I mean, why are you threatened by a computer? Someone made an AI chess grandmaster but chess still exist until this day?
@@konaqua122 Your logic makes no sense. People don't make money regularly from playing chess. Chess is a sport and a hobby. You can't get your "work" stolen from chess because it's just a strategy based game. Not a creativity work game. Art however, is different. When creating art you put passion and soul in it. Some people make money from art itself, and having your hard work stolen and replaced as the AI's work can disheartean many artists. Your chess example has literally no real meaning to replacing ARTISTS dude. Chess exists as a sports game, not a "use your imagination to create something beautiful" kind of thing. No ones asking for your respect, you don't get it for some people.
Rino Tuna is one of my absolute favorite artists and I bought his course as soon as I seen he started one back in September. I'm not finished and I keep rewatching the beginning to continue to improve the fundimentals of art before i get into advanced parts of his course.
How good is his fundamentals section?
As a teen artist having done art for 6, 7 years now, it's terrifying that AI is taking over, I want to become a graphic designer or a general artist. But we shouldn't give up!
Chances are AI artist can't properly explain their art, just prompts.
But you with a brain can, and you can make detail that AI cannot do properly yet. If you are illustrate for a book where character, scene and setting need to be consistent, human will still do better in this job.
Lesson of the day: ai can't turn g-fuel into a hot himbo dude.
The art community is truly a prime example of all the good parts humanity still has left to offer.
Time and time again, artists persevere through all trials and tribulations even though we feel like giving up.
That's just pure goodness and wholesome ❤️
yes, im not an artist but seeing this community stay close together even on difficult times brings me joy
Really? You should read about the creep who created Ren and Stimpy. Or GG Allin or R. Kelly, or Chris Chan. Who do you think does all the prison tattoos? It's artists.
I mean art has existed since the dawn of man, it's actually a tool used to document history for generations, handing that over to AI is a sin in my book
@@kylelee5966 Saying using a new tool to record history is a sin is blasphemy, heresy and completely ignorant.
@@bethrains3105 it's not just a tool, it's marketed as a replacement while simultaneously using nonconsensual work without consent, if it were using public domain then that would be fine but it isn't.
10:57 Your words about drawing without garuntee and becoming the artist you want to be really hit close to home, and are extremely inspiring. Thank you so much for saying that, hearing that really helps me to continue on the journey towards becoming the artist I want to be. Your words are beautiful.
Seeing this video made me feel a lot at ease about this controversial topic of AI Art. It’s not something that I panic over, but it’s definitely a concern for me as an artist to possibly have my hard work entirely replaced by a software.
For me, I often make concept artworks based on songs, emotions & photographs. It’s more like I combine all these 3 elements mostly to create different kinds of concepts. I still have a long way to go, but I think that I’m on the right track by visualising my ideas through art, without relying on references too much
This is really good to hear. If I can at least help one person feel a bit more at ease, and continue to enjoy making art / pursue their dreams - then I am happy.
If you feel your art can be replaced by software it means you offered nothing to begin with.
@@MrRossT1
Dumb logic.
every artists have ONE thing that AI doesn't have and probably will never have
you don't own the AI image you generated and you can't copyright AI image
Yes.! This is how you have to approach character design thses days. I've always loved the meaning and purpose behind behind character webs/maps that you show, Josh. Been doing a lot of the same methods recently and it's been such a great challenge for me.
This is something that is done in the book the art of dramatic writing where you get into the details for the Characters and the reason for their design. 👏🏿👏🏿.
Awesome video.
Yeah!!! Rino tuna humanizing random objects into awesome character designs, like once I saw him make a can of biscuits into a group of butlers and maids preparing a queen with the color scheme of the biscuits hahahha what a mad lad, I salute you good sir
It's not about money or jobs or "Being Afraid of technological advancement", as some might argue.
It *_is_* about replacing every aspect of humanity within human society.
It sets such a dangerous, disturbing precedence I am astonished there are people who cannot see it.
Art is among the very last things that humans could be replaced by, and yet there are people, people who care nothing for humanity, pushing for this very thing.
Rinotuna is one of my all time main inspirations! Growing up, I never had a role model to look up to but eventually I fell in love with his work! I bought his course back when Black Friday deal was going on (though I'd normally avoid these since it's so costly) but seeing so many people praise this course and him in particular I decided to take it and so far, i'm in absolute awe of how much information is packed inside this course! It may be a bit hard reading the subtitles and listening as he speaks in Korean and can be quite fast but still incredibly worth it!
Love this video, I've been kind of drowning myself in the AI stuff. But when I was toying around with it myself I did find myself being more mindful of my drawings (Since I crave some level of creative input that's just how it ended up being expressed), and it's really made me want to focus more on the stories I'm trying to tell, and learn the type of mindful designs you described in this video. Here's to 2023 and thanks for being such an inspiration
I appreciate the reminder to stay away from the noise and keep creating. It's easy to get caught up in the hype and fear and forget that the only way to overcome is to keep moving forward. Thank you for that.
Firstly, Thank you for giving us a snippet of Rinotuna's course! Rino is one of my favroite artists and I love how he can envision amazing character designs from simple objects. I'd love to dive into his course sometime to learn his process.
As for AI, I'm confident the ability to innovate isn't something that can be taken from true artists. Theft issues aside, the programmers and AI users simply won't understand what it means to truly create something more than just a pretty image.
Well said Josh 👏 as I always say too, why do some put so much faith into technology, yet so little faith into their own potential? Long live artists 💪
Here’s my thing. All of you artists that have a platform and a way already are fine…let’s face it. You will probably benefit even more because you will become specialized in the art field. Little artists have already been struggling extremely hard on instagram or ArtStation. Now you can’t use ArtStation. Art skill diminishing does not allow for you guys to do bad. It means we will have to work harder then you would have from when you started. The happenstance of you guys getting where you are is insane. Buying y’all’s courses over and over is how you will keep us where we are. Being nice and hopeful is your sales tactic to attack all the soft artists. Ai hurts, but not anyone with a public standing.
this is a great view i haven’t heard from anyone else. it’s easy for people who already get commissions, especially from regulars. but harder for someone who is starting from practically nothing in this current AI stuff, like me. i changed my uni major to art earlier this year and can’t tell if i’m regretting it or not due to the AI stuff and since i’m not that great at art. but i’m hoping that this stuff will die down like NFTs lmao
You can’t use artstation ? I don’t understand
@@v_bunny I'm about to change mine away from art because of AI. I'll see you in a couple years to see which one of us is regretting it 😭. I'm a first year college student in USA rn so I don't lose any progress for changing my major during my early years.
I disagree most artists struggle due to not understanding how to market their art and themselves as a brand. They fail not because of skill but because they haven’t built a distribution system for their craft. Even without AI all these artists would struggle for the same reasons.
@@Flavor190 exactly, these artists succeed because they understand it's a business not just a skillset. There are people like the doodle guy who arguably draws worse than ergo but is really good at marketing himself to where it doesn't matter. There is plenty of room for lots of different kinds of artists out there who can connect with others with their work
This dude has a really calming voice honestly I really like drawing while listening to this person
Excited to listen to this.
But I don’t think AI will replace most artists.
Artists have flair, styles, and personality that is unique to their work, while AI benefits exclusively from stealing the styles of artists and images of photographers. They mash them together into something ‘new’
Big agree with you my friend. But like it's been said there's a lot of noise out there and we gotta wait a bit until thr dust settles and clears
I agree, I almost gave up because of other people saying that “A.I will replace artist” or “being an artist shouldn’t be your goal”
This gave me hope
AI dont need to be as good as artists. It need to be good enough while borderline free. And yes there's reasons for optimism, but let's prepare for worst. If AI really will stuck at some point and we wll be fine it doesnt need to be addressed anyway. We should be bit pessimistic just in case
@@danilakalinin6261 fortunately, that's not the case,
i have a patreon, an on my discord community they talked about how the IA looses the magic really quickly, and people is just searching for something fresh, clients still preferes authenthic artists, because there's a different conection, someone who gives you inspiration on your life,
this also applies to nsfw,
People gets boring after some AI results, they just want something fresh,
something that only an authenthic handmade draw can give, even without any advanced skills, just with taste and creative ways to represent their thoughts / desires into a picture.
@@Mente_Fugaz Right now ai is indeed not that dreadful. But it will become better. I personally think concept artist will be fine mostly but illustrators should think about plans b, c and d just in case.
I NEEDED THIS.
Most of my ideas are just sleep-deprived fever dreams driven by stress, frustration and a wild imagination trying to escape my circumstances.
I've never really *deliberately thought* about the designs of my ideas. I also love those charts from rinotuna you were showing us. I need a book on this stuff!
OMG I CANNOT STRESS HOW MUCH I LOVE RINO TUNA he's one of mu favorite artists of all time!! This video was incredibly helpful. It might be my favorite video in your channel... thank you so so sooo much!
Great video and what a humble way to both highlight the work of other artists and share your knowledge with us.
Being a concept artist is my dream job, and honestly i'm terrified for the future of art because of AI. I don't want to let go of something I love due to it, and i'm sure many others feel the same.
if you're worried about AI, then you might want to consider dabbling in story boarding/animatics. Story boarder from wonderunit is free and is a great tool for dipping your toes into that world.
It'll take ages for AI to step into the story board space. And it'd be a useful medium for practicing composition, and different angles. If I were you i'd shoot for being a concept artist as your main goal. But practice some story boarding as a fall back.
Or you could use it as a back door to start building business relationships and to use as a networking tool. Building business relationships is half the battle.
AI produced some of the worse random looking art I have ever seen. Just don't take it seriously and do whatever fits you
let go of it, the age of concept artists is over
@@toututu2993 Then you have not seen the newest AI art, dont give him such bad advice.
@@mathias8236 Yes I saw the new one. The result is garbage. I would not even use it for reference other than for abstract
I've gone back and forth on my feelings toward AI art, and the conclusion I've come to is, AI art will only replace the jobs that were being devalued already. Scam sites like fivver already devalued low-effort one-off commissions. More profitable art careers include indepth problem solving that AI can only be slightly useful for. And you might interject, "BUT AI WILL JUST KEEP GETTING BETTER." True, but AI advancements aren't all-encompassing. In the past few years, AI art has only gotten better at the things it already had the capacity to be good at: being an extremely fast photo manipulator that's often derivative. It's gotten better at being that, but it's still just that, nothing more.
Artists have gotten better an INSANE amount due to all of the education available. But any decent oil painters can still paint circles around me even with all of the most expensive tablets/software in the world. I believe this will be the same with Ai, in its own way.
I just love how design and art are so close to one another!
Some of the steps you mentioned are extremely close to design thinking and user experience design. We as humans are very often trying to relate to a character without even noticing it, so paying close attention to details will bring this little extra ''something''.
Thank you for the video :)
There are so many amazing parallels with art in different industry, thanks for sharing!
The hope this has kindled in me is too much for words. I’m still a beginner illustrator and scare easy, this was everything I needed. Thank you.
Lawsuits are starting apparently
I would love to get that course from Rinotuna and Andrea Cofrancesco it looks so well detailed and defined. Definitely working intuitively and intentionally sounds like the best place to go.
Haven't seen this man miss a shot since he appeared on RUclips!!
Gives flowers*
You're on the path of a great mentor. Please keep going.
your handflow and art are just beautiful🫶🫶
despite how complex or detailed ai art might become, I’m sure that art produced by humans will never die out. It’s a way for people to destress and have a creative outlet, and there are things even AI isn’t able to create, since it’s just based on what images are fed into it.
That's legit exactly what our brains are. That's what we do, except we have lots of goals, needs and desires associated with the struggle of staying alive with varying degrees of priority instead of one task.
A.I. is constantly moving closer to replicate the human mind but without any imperfections of mortality, bias and error; Into a godlike being.
Knowing how to do art will be useless very soon and that will slash the community in half due to lots of ego-related and external motivation factors. That skill will be useless and it's at the border of that. You'd be better off doing more productive things that give the same benefits but faster.
Same thing as shoe makers revolted against shoe machine but at the end they just get along with it, history does repeats itself
same thing as horse racing and cars
@@clearlyanartistanimations6915 that’s only if you view art as a tool to make money. many people use art as a way to distress or as a creative outlet, and using ai Art can’t replicate that. many people prefer art that has taken a real personal hours of work to produce rather than an ai replica. ai is very similar to our brains, but it can only use what’s inputted into it.
Really liked this more positive outlook instead of all the doom and gloom. With some ammendments, ai has the potential to become a valuable tool in the future for artists. Right now it's a mess, but most things start off that way. Thanks for this video
Rinotuna is one of my favorite artists.
Finally you talk about this, rather argue or opinion stuff you come up with a grand idea and some way more out for artists to continue and thank you for this ideas
Keep going, really inspirational, I'm your biggest fan 🔥
i recently started doubting myself and my art alot, and this video helped me get confidence and motivation needed to continue creating artwork, thank you for that.
This was pretty inspiring, thank you! I saw a video from other artist saying that concept art was probably going to be taken over by AI so these new perspective is pretty inspiring to me as I'm a character designer myself. Also, I'm a huge fan of Rinotuna's work!
Happy holidays josh~
Yes!honestly i thought it was harmless at first until i really see how its affecting artists, ai will never ever be able to recreate the same masterpiece a human did
the more i see ai art the more easy they are to recognize ..idk how someone feel proud enough to say its theirs when they did absolutely no shit and no effort lol..how do you genuinely feel accomplished in that? So laughable
This is THE best video I've seen so far about a creative artistic perspective on AI and how to deal with these changing times. I am glad you made this video and thank you so much for the inspiration and the wise words. Your video's are motivational for me and I'm glad to be a follower of your work!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Yet again, very inspirational. Thank you for this. This motivates me.
Rinotuna is a freaking boss!!! 😭😭🔥🔥
I don't worry about being replaced by AI art since I and my work was NEVER accepted anyway.
The key is to call out the blatant copyright violations and their shady methods of acquiring data as well as all the private and immoral content used to train their datasets. These AI image generators are in blatant breach of copyright law since using someone's IP without permission and then monetizing it is a breach of copyright even if it's to produce a derivative. You even have cases where painters and photographers sue other artists for taking heavy reference for their work without their consent and these AI models don't fit the criteria of fair use either since they outright breach the 4th term "The effect of the use upon the potential market for, or value of, the copyrighted work" by monetizing these AI models and making profit off of using people's copyrighted data and it still counts even though the AI produces a derivative. Even when working in a studio your reference images need to be approved before you get the go ahead to use them in order to avoid any legal issues which is why some artists just take their own references to avoid these issues or use public domain images. If artists by law need to abide by these laws then so should these companies responsible for these AI and I didn't even tackle the private data that isn't even art that they use without people's consent. Not to mention the fact this wouldn't fly in the music industry... most do not dare to publish any "open-source" song with Taylor Swift voice, but somehow happily use "new" Kim Jung Gi's art to train the AI and say this is to pay tribute to him thinking that it's ok, that's a huge double standard!
Banger comment. Have found two of my drawings in their database so... ugh, hope laws speed up. Anytime now. Even if I copyrighted my characters, I still couldn't win against.. million dollar companies yeah.....
Finally someone who understands
@@ris8447 everyone needs to come together
@@ris8447 two of your images in a training set consisting of 500 million images. You honestly think you are being infringed?
This argument is valid. I have to go sleep now, but there are some really good academic articles if you look for them analysing the different methods AI art uses. TL;DR, Most methods do not achieve creation of work that would be considered derivative enough to be considered a unique work. One thing I will tell you though is that this will be a thing of the past in possibly less than a year. AI learning is advancing rapidly. Eventually AI will be creating art that IS derivative enough. That is quite literally the problem every AI art developer is trying to solve.
This is the first useful video for a proactive strategy for artists to engage in a world after AI image generation.
People have not yet twigged that art is just the first step, artists, composers, lawyers, accountants, managers, almost every profession is going to be impacted in the next few decades.
You WILL NOT have control over this, Pandora's box is open. You DO have control over what you do in order to exist and thrive in that new world.
Bro that stuff about We're Artist was Beautiful! keep it up!
Man your art is really mindblowing
I like using AI generators, it’s fun. But it’s definitely not art imo.
I’m not too worried about it taking over, I feel like human made art (it’s weird to even have to specify) can never really be replaced. It’s not like the self checkout machines replacing cashiers. Art is too human of a product.
I used it to make the first part of a free crappy webcomic.
Wow this character design is insane bro! 🔥🔥🔥 I really like the pants and scarf. I’m trying to get better at drawing clothing for my characters and this definitely inspires me! Fantastic work!!!
love your conclusion in this video ;) again awesome inspiring video man
As a relative beginner, i really valued just watching how you work with all sorts of reference images in work on a single piece. Quite instructive!
Just when Ibwas becoming technically competent.
I still think skill does help in expanding what you can do. Like some paintings don't look half as interesting without the rendering, which elevates the experience. Knowing the basics will help you...after that it's your brain that moves forward
Beautiful and encouraging message and content. Happy New Year!
Thanks Josh this video was motivating.
This is not a long term solution. If I had to make a guess I think ChatGPT will replace this type of creative skill before something like midjourney gets there.
Imagine a AI chatbot you can bounce ideas off? Like creative think tanks for a advertising firm but just 10000x better and faster. You might have a psychologist, engineer and all kinds of specialists rolled into one! Then you just churn out the creative possibilities from that idea through midjourney or Dall-E 3 or whatever iteration is available then.
This stuff is insane!
They can give us a character but they cannot give them a story
Thank you for the hope and inspiration, happy drawing :)
if i knew that course has a subtitle i wouldve got it when rinotuna had a sale on it also! great video!
Art is not about result, its about execution and the journey.
you don't get paid that's why lol
eh, um, no
Funny how it started like how ai will help us and not destroy us and now we are worried about our art being stolen by ai and finding ways to avoid getting replaced by it
Dude, that was amazing, you greatly inspired me, I appreciate your effort and work you put in this video. Amazing narrative and very good art). Rinotuna is my all time favorite artist, I'm am always mindblown at his drawings. I will try Coloso, I want to look at his tutorials myself.
Very inspiring. Thank you Josh!
lol bro this is went form ai wont replace us to how to avoid being replaced lol
Im sorry..... It is NOT art. Idc how long it took to code.... or how long it took someone to put together an AI.
For me, there is nothing about it that makes it real, it is a cold, and lifeless form of something wonderful.
Stop giving it headway and try to ignore it.
Great video Ergo as per usual.
men thx sm i needed to hear that as an artist
Fantastic video and really motivating, thank you
great video!
Thing is AI art only creates the flashy image and doesn’t really dig into concept art backend development, which includes the spec sheets and other details for 3d development, also
Learn 3d development
That will be the next thing to get touched by AI and very rapidly
@@KlearChristal generates a 1 gazillion polygon waifu that melts your motherboard upon using it in unity
I kinda needed this today, thank you
THANK YOU SOOOOOO MUCH ERGO!!!!
“AI can’t do this” for now…. Sadly there’ll be a day.
Lets be ready when it comes.
"AI can't do this"
*gives an example of something AI image generators excel at*
Thank you very much for this video. I was kinda scared to watch it because of the anxious vibe around the IA subject. I really enjoy how motivational your speech was. It make me pround of myself, proud of drawing every time that I could and try to improve more and more !
(excuse my bad english, that's not my native language)
This video definitely helps rebuild my confidence, thank you! ❤Also remember that replicating the critical thinking of real artists will require a near-human level AGI, which is a technology nowhere near being created. I can't see any meaningful art jobs being replaced by ai for at least the next 2 decades.
The people laughing at artists, you ain't safe too.
I remember my skatch class teacher told me about his experience 30 years ago, when he was still working as package design.
he and his team designing a package and back then photoshop and a lot of tech still early. one time the computer was busted but he could still present his work on the meeting board because his line work and colour guidline are already good.
I don't wanna relie on AI only, who could have thought if one day we're completely blackout.
Rinotuna is a genius 😂 I preordered his course as a fan, haha.
To whoever trying to defend AIs' use of copyright image, can you say the same with copyright MUSIC?
Thank you for being a voice of reason and inciting artists to create instead of be stuck in fear (:
Omg I signed up for Rinotuna's class and it's so worth it!!! And it's super discounted!!!
A tip from someone learning AI, use something like Adversarial Noise, basically add random noise or random line in the top layer, but make it almost invisible like using the alpha channel at value like one but keeping the RGB color. That way the AI still read the random contour but it's invisible the line...
AI learn the image using RGB color channel to learn the contour and edges patterns. Different drawing idea is good but still, it's matter of time before someone merge ChatGPT and stable diffusion. No, it's not impossible, it's ridiculously easy.
Engineers already prepared for this so most of them already covering the bases while artists caught off guard. As long your image pops up in the site like Google images, pixiv, Twitter, Facebook, or anything public, Even if it's just a 128x128 preview, IT'S ENOUGH FOR THE AI TO LEARN AND IT WILL GO INTO THE DATASET, hell Twitter even have a developer API available to scrape the site itself.
I mean... at the end sounds more like AI is pushing artist now to be more unique than just "working hard". And I feel that's why ppl is so mad, because they don't wanna "seek" a unique type of art because that's a lot of time and hard.
Rinotuna is such good artist!! enough said!! 😁
I rlly needed this thx josh
As ai art evolves
So will human artists
I think we are about to enter a new Era of art
I agree. If it sticks around, its meant to stick around. I'm sure it will change alot and so will we.
This lifted my spirits a bit, thank you! Also off topic but I found vizref because of your video and I’m really happy :)) I’ve been drawing more on my ipad than pc recently and I needed a good alternative to pureref
Thank you Josh! This was inspiring :)
What app does josh use to put his reference photos in while drawing?
I really hope someone can answer this! I wish I knew. Looks very handy compared to a standard gallery app
looks like it's VizRef
@@sheepbunmonster believe ur right. Tyvm
@@sheepbunmonster thanks!
So this is literally just one big advertisement...
lol, props to him for being a smart businessman!
I really like the advice, i've been drawing for almost 5 years now, sadly i can't afford to pay these courses, every time i see an artist filling an entire canvas with drawings makes me feel insecure about my grinding, i don't know how much is too much or how little is too little, money is always in my mind i need to eat, pay the bills, things in life takes so much time for you that drawing big pictures takes me days, i don't know how to practice i don't know how paint with values i don't know how to use layers or many of the tools of the software that i have, what is wrong with me i don't know everyone just seem to move at a different phase, how you can draw all day and make money and pay and have peace to draw and practice and paint and build a visual library with life on the way, how can you be so fast, how could you draw something so cool in one day, the daily grind so much shit to do, cook, clean the house, do the dishes, go out, socialize, get back home, draw, do the dishes again, keep up with friends, relaxation time, overwhelming amount of things that are time waster, how does someone becomes a pro so quick with so much shit in life.
great positive outlook, thanks!
the art theft aside, i think he future of AI holds massive benefits for artists, just as references or mashes ideas together or getting inspiration. More like a tool to get our creativity going
hopefully the laws around ai art get to speed but even without them, it shouldn't hold any art artist back as AI art or not there have always been people profiting from stealing art, photoshop etc
in the end skill matters most
I needed this.
I was really concerned about AI taking over the art industry but this really helped me gather my thoughts
Thanks for this video man. I don’t think I’d do well in the video game/film pipeline, but I found your video encouraging. I studied art in college and plan on saving up for Lyme academy.
I have a large appreciation for all kinds of art especially early anime and manga, but over my time in college I realized I am more into the “fine arts” stuff like Bernini, Degas, Rothko, Sabin Howard, etc. I still don’t know where I fit into all this, as I’ve currently been cleaning toilets to save up for a few years now. I don’t know if there’s a demand for the art I want to make, but I feel that it needs to be made. Often times though I feel as though I’m deluding myself, like maybe I should just stop making images and should just be happy being a janitor. It’s good to know there’s others out there making art. But again, I just don’t see where I fit into it.