My thought too.. It took him less time to repeat some 9a than he spent on terranova and he still think he is far from sending it. That would be big, making adam the first to ever climb 9a
I hope Will repeats Horizon while he's in Japan. There's long been talk that the grade might be V16 or higher, which would make Ashima the first female to climb V16 by a long shot.
Great to see you in the UKC kitchen, Xa! Very nice reporting 👍🏻👍🏻 This Will Bosi fella just keeps blowing our minds. I too would love to see Will get on Megatron 🤞🏻
Will has sent so many 9a's now so it would be the time for him to FA first 9a+! Maybe he could check out Nalles Sisu project in Finland which he could never send.
i think that one is gonna be a long while for a repeat, it’s aidan’s superpower and he had to get better at it and he deliberated in the grade for a super long time and he said it was def harder than 8C+ while he was debating and it’s aidan. So really he was deciding whether or not he should call it 9A+, like i firmly believe that there’s a good shot that it’s the hardest boulder in the world at this point.
Its interesting that Will called Alphane a soft 9A but calls this one definitely a 9A even when it took him less time to send. Maybe its due to style or conditions ?
repeating something already done is different from doing something you don’t know if it is possible or not. Although being able to climb such a difficult problems is amazing accomplishment
So, if Burden of Dreams is only a solid 9A like Will Bosi said, and the rest of the established 9As are only soft 9As, does this mean we are still yet to find a hard 9A? Perhaps, a 9A that's harder than Burden?
I think the limiting factor on V18 isn’t ability, because like you say - we’re almost there. The issue will be finding a V18, as it’s no small task locating a boulder which has just enough holds without having too many.
Didn't it take him 8 sessions of power assisted replica training just to do the 1st move on Burden? And another 15 to do the full line? Same style, completely different process and result for 2 climbers now, yet the same grade...
I don't think the styles are the same. Spots of Time is more compressiony and requires mobility (high heel) and quickness (quick snatches to crimps), whereas Burden is steeper, more purely finger and toe placement focused, with a nice dynamic bit at the top. Edit: Is Burden steeper? That's my impression, but I may be wrong. Edit 2: Burden is 45°. Couldn't find anything for Spots yet.
@@arthurdoktor the same could be said for Terranova AND Excalibur which have both thwarted Will's attempts. Also, Aiden was the guy who made the Burden replica years ago, the first to have access to it at his home wall, and he's made multiple trips to Burden with no send. I know, I haven't tried either of these lines so who am I to say how hard they are. I can only say that every piece of evidence suggests Burden is meaningfully harder. Let's see what Will declares, but I worry that he doesn't want to offend Aiden by downgrading him again. I'd still love to see Will repeat some of the testpiece V16s like Gioia as well, to help with his calibration. Lucid dreaming too.
@@marcbecker1431 Bosi said Spots of Time was "Burden-like" - sharp, short, similar hold type and steepness. There are differences of course, but this has to be the most similar 9A proposal to Burden stylistically
Will did Alphane 2 years ago and I don’t think anyone would argue that within those 2 years he has gone from strength to strength. As a result of this, it shouldn’t come of too much of a surprise that he’s climbing things quicker 🤷🏼♂️
2 more and Will will have an infinity gauntlet
probably honey badger is 9a
@lucaa4480 Maybe it’s borderline 9A, like 8C+/9A
Hmmm... Terranova is still waiting for Will... 😃Any plans about it? It might be 9A as Will suggested already.
My thought too.. It took him less time to repeat some 9a than he spent on terranova and he still think he is far from sending it. That would be big, making adam the first to ever climb 9a
This is what the people want
@@TheGoldiniac I'd rather see a handful of the 9A's downgraded than Terranova upgraded, just sayin'
@@chazott then go downgrade some 9As
I hope Will repeats Horizon while he's in Japan. There's long been talk that the grade might be V16 or higher, which would make Ashima the first female to climb V16 by a long shot.
Great to see you in the UKC kitchen, Xa! Very nice reporting 👍🏻👍🏻 This Will Bosi fella just keeps blowing our minds. I too would love to see Will get on Megatron 🤞🏻
Xa has taken over for a while I (Rob) am out of action after an operation. Hopefully I’ll be back soon, but in the meanwhile - you’re in safe hands!!
@@ukclimbingofficial Hope you have a quick recovery, Rob! Take it easy.
Will on Floatin? would be great to see.
We would absolutely love to see this too
Is there a UKC kitchen?
I knew it was coming at some point soon…. I got it faster than I thought
Legend
Will has sent so many 9a's now so it would be the time for him to FA first 9a+! Maybe he could check out Nalles Sisu project in Finland which he could never send.
If he dosent do one before he retires from being the best then I don’t think we’ll see one for a while
You've got to love a subtle pun 🙂 A perfect boudler being a stone's throw from home 🙂
Cant wait for him to climb arrival of the birds (if he is going to, has he even checked it out yet?).
i think that one is gonna be a long while for a repeat, it’s aidan’s superpower and he had to get better at it and he deliberated in the grade for a super long time and he said it was def harder than 8C+ while he was debating and it’s aidan. So really he was deciding whether or not he should call it 9A+, like i firmly believe that there’s a good shot that it’s the hardest boulder in the world at this point.
Actually I have the second ascent, I just forgot to record it.
Send in an etching of you doing it and we’ll feature it next week 😅
Its interesting that Will called Alphane a soft 9A but calls this one definitely a 9A even when it took him less time to send. Maybe its due to style or conditions ?
My guess would be far less moves to optimise, style and him getting stronger and more experianced
i think he takes his personal growth as a climber into consideration
The bloke grew stonger and more experienced as a boulderer in 2+ years.
He getting better
May i ask how many 9a boulders are there? I cant seem to find a videa where they show all of them
There is, as of just a few days ago, between 9 and 10, depending on whether or not you count 8C+/9As (i.e. slash grades)
repeating something already done is different from doing something you don’t know if it is possible or not. Although being able to climb such a difficult problems is amazing accomplishment
What's your point caller?
now when will he established his own 9a
He will when it's bosi.
He probably already did! Just sandbagged it (honey badger)
So, if Burden of Dreams is only a solid 9A like Will Bosi said, and the rest of the established 9As are only soft 9As, does this mean we are still yet to find a hard 9A? Perhaps, a 9A that's harder than Burden?
I mean surely if you can climb 4 V17s, it's time for V18 soon right?
I think the limiting factor on V18 isn’t ability, because like you say - we’re almost there. The issue will be finding a V18, as it’s no small task locating a boulder which has just enough holds without having too many.
Still not steong eniugh to repeat shadowl play smh
Punter
that was fast
Terranova will be the next 💪🏽
It’d be great to see that get a repeat, and potentially an upgrade too 👀
Didn't it take him 8 sessions of power assisted replica training just to do the 1st move on Burden? And another 15 to do the full line? Same style, completely different process and result for 2 climbers now, yet the same grade...
I don't think the styles are the same. Spots of Time is more compressiony and requires mobility (high heel) and quickness (quick snatches to crimps), whereas Burden is steeper, more purely finger and toe placement focused, with a nice dynamic bit at the top.
Edit: Is Burden steeper? That's my impression, but I may be wrong.
Edit 2: Burden is 45°. Couldn't find anything for Spots yet.
All the training for Burden probably transferred well to this boulder since it is, like you say, the same style.
@@arthurdoktor the same could be said for Terranova AND Excalibur which have both thwarted Will's attempts. Also, Aiden was the guy who made the Burden replica years ago, the first to have access to it at his home wall, and he's made multiple trips to Burden with no send. I know, I haven't tried either of these lines so who am I to say how hard they are. I can only say that every piece of evidence suggests Burden is meaningfully harder. Let's see what Will declares, but I worry that he doesn't want to offend Aiden by downgrading him again. I'd still love to see Will repeat some of the testpiece V16s like Gioia as well, to help with his calibration. Lucid dreaming too.
@@marcbecker1431 Bosi said Spots of Time was "Burden-like" - sharp, short, similar hold type and steepness. There are differences of course, but this has to be the most similar 9A proposal to Burden stylistically
@@chazott Ah okay. Interesting. Maybe Bosi is just getting even more insanely strong? 😀
Still gotta do megaton. Hasn’t done them all
he has 4-1/2 9A's to go still, almost halfway there
Ironically Megatron is probably the one he’s best suited towards too
Wait so he says that spots was a solid 9A while spending 8 sessions on it but he said that alphane was a soft 9A after spending 13 sessions on it
That’s what I’m saying, something ain’t adding up 🤔
BRITISH BIAS
Will did Alphane 2 years ago and I don’t think anyone would argue that within those 2 years he has gone from strength to strength. As a result of this, it shouldn’t come of too much of a surprise that he’s climbing things quicker 🤷🏼♂️
No arguing with that 🤣