Legendary Lessons: We Can All Learn From Comics Icon Herb Trimpe
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- Опубликовано: 7 май 2024
- There are a lot of qualities modern comic pros can learn from legend Herb Trimpe. Despite giving Marvel the best 30-years of his life, they fired him in one of the most brutal ways imaginable. At 56, Herb Trimpe was jobless and looking for a new lease on life beyond comic books. His story of resiliency and overcoming adversity is something that should inspire us all in hard times. Wes talks about Herb Timpe's experience of being fired after 30-years of legendary service and what we can learn about resiliency. Legendary lessons, what comic pros can learn from this icon.
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I got to meet Herb Trimpe, about 4 months before he died, at a show in San Diego. He was such a gentleman. He was super gracious, and just an all around warm hearted guy. I was really glad I got the opportunity to meet him, before he was lost to the world. He is truly one of the comic greats, and is without question missed.
That's a great story!
@@Wes_From_TC Thanks! 👍
This hits harder than I ever imagined. I helped start up an organization during the pandemic and was one of the key players in getting it through the most unpredictable economy since World War 2. Unpaid overtime, working weekends, the whole bit.
Two months ago, I was told I must take a 30% pay cut for reasons unrelated to my job performance. Brutal. The lesson...it's just a job. Do your best when you are there but don't give the bastards a minute more.
And don't believe the BS about a workplace being a family. You can make friends with your co-workers and have productive relationships with your managers. But you are paid to perform a service for 40 hours a week. Last time I checked, that was no one's definition of a family.
My goodness, it felt good to get that out ;-)
Thanks for sharing Patrick. Hopefully you find a company that appreciates you. 👊
@@Wes_From_TC thanks buddy!
I met Herb Trimpe back in 2011. Super nice guy. Signed all of my stuff, didn't charge me a dime, and shared some neat stories.
Despite Herb’s sad tale, this is the type of comic book history that’s worth talking about. I always loved reading Roy Thomas’s Alter Ego magazine. Maybe a RUclips version would be worth a shot. Bless you Wes 🙏
I never read many Herb Trimpe stuff but I know that he did legendary things in the 70's Marvel.
Its amazing that I just now learned about this man...
Rest in Peace Mr Trimpe... Wherever you are now...
And it's a shame that these editors and publishers don't exhibit even a trace of the ethics, morality and decency that embodies so many of their fictional characters.
Nice change of pace, Wes. Good to be reminded of the sacrifice of people like Trimpe, who added so much value to our lives.
As I have said before, it is this short sighted attitude from those completely in charge that are a drag on the industry since the beginning. Now Herb did have a long career, but its the way he exited that career which in the telling signs of the continuous problems. It is what holds the industry back and prevents it from becoming what it could be. I always believe it is best to take a symbiotic stance between company and creator in this cases, since no creators the company has nothing to sell. You don't give away the store to ANYONE, business is still business. But if someone is helping you make solid dollars you do your best to keep them around and happy. And if you have to let them go, you do it begrudgingly and make that person feel like it wasn't all for nothing. Note to creators though...SAVE YOUR MONEY....there are cases of too many creators not planning their future and when it all crashes down its not necessarily somebody else's fault for it. WTF20.
Fantastic video, Wes! So refreshing to hear about someone like Herb Trimpe rather than wasting bandwidth on the usual buffoons like Heidi MacDonald, Heather Antos, the X-Idiots, etc.
He also did G. I. Joe: A Real American Hero.
This has happened in other industries as well. I have seen people let it ruin them. But I have also seen other people pick themselves up like HT. Great man.
So my co worker and I were talking about Herb Trimpe today after I watch your video Wes, he said that Herb was a volunteer fire fighter for the city of NY. Herb was @ ground zero 9/12 helping with the clean up. I felt I had to leave that as a second comment.
Loved his art on Godzilla and Shogun Warriors in the late 70s.
I was born in 1970 and have always loved comic books. When I was a kid Godzilla and Shogun Warriors were my two favorites. I read them till they were literally comic apart
This was great. Your inclusion of personal experiences are always appropriate and add a level of depth to your content that most aren’t providing
Thanks 👊
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Thank you for uploading this video and sharing your story. I really needed to hear this at this point in my life. A month ago, my job position was casually eliminated at a corporation I'd devoted 25+ years of my life. I've been depressed and riddled with anxiety ever since and developing bad habits. It mirrors exactly what Herb Trimpe went through (although we were in different fields). It's time to pick myself back up, regain confidence, and learn something new. Thank you!
You are not alone my friend.
My conjecture is that current writers think they are too good for anything else.
They are, they’re straight out of Tumblr fan fiction writing weirdos who are very arrogant and want to tear down the work of those who came before them. They’re transferring their armchair Internet activism and infesting comics with a bunch of personal agenda nonsense.
I love the Herb Trimpe story, I remember reading about how he even started learning computers near the end.
Remember the quote from the movie Carlito's Way. "You ain't got no friends in this shit business."
To the late, great, legendary Herb Trimpe. Rest In Peace old timer. You were a master warrior. ✝️🌹
I've seen too much "Panhandling" online from comic creators (Some still getting work *initials P.D.* to recall one them). Welcome to the world most of us live in without job security or decent health insurance, but we don't have a following to call on for money because they won't go to Walmart, or wherever to make a living and get insurance. (Hell, I had to accept a job as a telemarketer back in the early 2000's - don't judge, needed a job and money). Trimpe proved his maturity, intelligence, and resilience by getting through the loss and moving on. GREAT VIDEO, WES!
That resiliency certainly played a big role in his success as a creator for so many years
Great topic, Wes! I've recently been collecting Hulk comics from silver/bronze age, and have seen this gentlemens name. Its awesome to put a name and history to these creators, just a little insight into the incredible (heh) lore that was created out of love and respect.
Great video, Wes!
Love this video. Thank you, Wes! Great life lessons for us all from a legend.
This is why we should be supporting independent comics. The Big 2 treat creators worse than animals.
I can tell this touched you personally. Great video and couldn't agree more with everything you said.
Hail Herb!
Way to expose Wes I had no idea so brutal. Love Herb Trimpe art classic, fresh & nvr out dated.
definitely read up on this story this is a study if your really into comic book history and wes did herb beat sal Buscema's run tho? remember Sal may have got him? he was on hulk from 197 0r 198 and he was there til byrne took over roughly like 314....
I felt this.
I never liked Herb Trimpe's pencils, tho, I knew of his co-creation of Wolverine. This video makes you think, what happens when you get left behind in your chosen career, and, you're no longer deemed useful. It'll happen to most of us at one point. Makes you think.
I really enjoyed this video. Thanks Wes!
This is one of your best yet, Wes! Thanks for this.
Thanks for listening
Been picking up a lot of Hulk lately. Hasn't been shown proper MCU love, just like Herb I guess. I love his work on Hulk and is a big reason I'm chasing them lately.
i met Herb Trimpe a few times. A gentleman and a class act who loved comic book fans. p.s. I shared your video on my FB page. Herb deserves more praise and exposure.
I knew him from Transformers comics and found out later about the amazing impact he had with hulk and wolverine
Awesome work mate
I wouldn't be surprised if Marvel sent the termination letter postage due.
Damb his art is clasic man! I love his art
Curt Swan got the same treatment from DC
For real?😮
This man was a legend!
Two Morrows put out a good biography about Herb Trimpe. I don’t know if it’s funny or sad but I find it more entertaining to read about the people behind beloved characters and storylines these days. Although there’s plenty I’m good on not knowing anymore about and I’m pretty sure no one’s going to be reading their biography’s or pouring over their art books.
WEN-DI-GO!!
It's amazing that this industry has been around for almost a hundred years, and people still need to be told that the pay and treatment are lousy.
I got signed and graded Gi joe 1 signed by him
Good people getting Bad deals makes me sick. It is amazing that Marvel did not fold in 2000.
Thanks!
Thanks 👊
Yo Joe.... knowing is half the battle
all i needed to know about working for DC or Marvel, i learned from Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster
Its true, i once met howard chaykin and he said to send your money to the hero initiative.
No wonder image comics and the remaining true artist are creating their own companies.Nobody wants to end up pike wally wood or bill finger
So what we can conclude is that comics is like any other industry. Once you did all they ask (sometimes more), they replace you like a gear in a clockwork.
And that history repeats itself, or perhaps it's best to say that it gets worse because little has changed.
But if can learn something from Herb is to never put all your eggs in the same chicken basket, and always look for a plan b in life
A wonderful artist. I loved his Hulk work as well has his Godzilla and Shogun Warriors runs. I purchased them from the first issue all the way until they stopped to my dismay. His Hulk was large and brutish like the Hulk should be rendered. Sorry to hear his was treated so badly by Marvel. But his life is an inspiration to us all. Marie Severin was also a favorite of mine.
everyone study this vid and if you can get your hands and read that article and reflect on it. i would also tell you to get books that talk about how a lot of these greats were edged out as we approach the 2000's
Doc Savage? Think you mean Doc Samson.
Correct
Heck, most of today's "talent", in the Main Two, can't hold a candle to the life experiences and trails of the people they replaced. When you think about the greats, the influential, and the talented of yesteryear [the ones that gave us stories, characters, inspirations that later became icons], nearly all of them either served in some war, or lived through extreme poverty. Compared to today (where the problem started with the "Image Boys", as much as I love them, but they all where high-middle-class costal boys that never struggled), where the most "dangerous" situation is being forced to be an adult [Wade], and the most "extreme" trail is being a father/faithful spouse [Bendis].
Is it really a wonder way today's stories are bad? It is because the writers haven't done anything to tell, nor how the art is bad because the artist have seen nothing to express.
Sadly I feel like you don’t have enough leaders teaching the younger creators
Stan lee is awesome
I’m 52 and damn well know who herb trimpe is and Marie severin. I just assumed they just retired. Hearing this makes me sick. I’m also questioning Stan’s loyalty to these people that got him to where he was. Marvel had its heyday its been all down hill. Let’s do to marvel what it did to herb and Marie.
And because of this kind of crap from the cómic industry, Image was born.
Monsters. Just monsters. If only the heroes they created knew how terrible that company is
This continues that Stan Lee was an utter bastard wonder how many more back then had problems with him Kirby Lee bing more well known.
His Hulk is the classic Hulk to me. A classic Marvel artist gone too soon.
Ahaha.. there's no one "working" at Marvel or DC that actually have the talent or mental fortitude to think outside the "rainbow"
If I was Marvel, I would have fired him after the first year. As a kid selecting all my favorite titles off the spinner rack, there was nothing worse than getting home, opening up the comic, and seeing Herb Trimpe as the artist. Just awful.