Food Parenting | Fat Acceptance TikTok Cringe
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- Food parenting is the part of parenting where we not only feed our children, but also teach them about food, nutrition, and cooking. So, if that is a parent's responsibility, would it not be irresponsible to regularly feed your children fast food and not teach them about nutrition? Let's discuss!
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Man, when I was a kid, I was raised by two people who had grown up poor. My father was from Denmark and my mother was American. They instilled a lot of values in me regarding food. Fast food was a treat that happened about once a month (sometimes less frequent than that). When we did go, we never got Happy Meals. And if we asked for dessert, my dad would remind us that we had stuff at home, like when my mom would make cookies or brownies. It led me to save candy from Halloween for extended periods. And my father loved to run as a sport, so I got into that, too. I sucked at almost every sport, so it was almost perfect for me. We ate canned veggies, which I grew to enjoy as I got older. We would have apples and carrots around, both being sweet and awesome snacks. I'm still an apple addict! Ice cream was a once-in-a-while treat. Around 11 years of age (when I started running), I grew to enjoy a hard-boiled egg as my afterschool ritual snack. I would boil it, cut it in half, take out the yolk, and mix it with pickle juice and mayo for a deviled egg. And when we would have a chicken, my mom would make that last for three days! And we never went hungry. These two people who had grown up with so little made a middle-class home for me and my three brothers. I am forever thankful for the fact that my parents taught me what they did - with tough love, too. When I was a kid, some things seemed so mean - but I grew up to be far more appreciative than I would have been otherwise. I can stretch a dollar. There were times when I was very low-budget, riding my bike to my part-time job and back and taking the bus, walking a lot in addition. During one of these times, I lived on ten or fifteen dollars a week for months. Rice, potatoes, chicken thighs at the dollar store, grapes, and lettuce (less expensive back then, of course). And it's all because of my parents having taught me well.
that’s so wonderful!! :) your parents are amazing people
THIS THIS THIS. Great parenting. Teaching skills that actually help children get through life. My mom was great at making meals stretch. We lived a lot on turkey a la king and hamburger gravy when I was young. Those meals weren't fancy, but they were enough and they were nutritious. Our current food environment may be pushing fast food and making more junk available to us, but we do have control over what we buy. You can make better choices and when making those better choices talk to your kids about why you are choosing healthy options. It's part of the job.
@@thebodyhonestyproject Chicken a-la-king was how my mom did it, too!
I only learned to eat healthy when I went through a time of poverty. It was the first time in my life I can genuinely say I thought about food rather than follow my parents' habits. (Take-away, calorically dense meals, willful ignorance to justify poor choices.) We're talking living off ~€1.00 a day, mostly cheap carbs and fats, since protein is more expensive regardless the source. When I came out of that rough period of my life I was very concious about my food choices.
I had to carefully look at what food I genuinely loved, as well as its price / calorie. When my doctor told me my protein intake needed to increase during surgery recovery, I had to decide a balance between my favourite foods and what I needed. Junkfood fell off almost instantly, since the addiction had already died, the habits changed and to this day I can barely justify the price / quality / enjoyment / accessibility. And if I'm thinking 'treat' I'm thinking a sirloin steak, or strawberries.
And it was a life investment to get to the point my cooking beats take-away in every aspect (good kitchen, required skills) but I feel any parent can raise a child to have those skills.
Teaching responsibility with purchasing food is a valuable skill. McDonalds is not a necessity like vegetables and fruit are. Also, you’re paying for more food when you buy healthy food that lasts longer compared to a giant McD’s binge that’s only going to last one day and make you feel like crap. I don’t get why people try to make it seem like being addicted to eating McDonald’s to the point where you can’t go a day without wasting money on it is normal. That sounds like a mindset only a binge eater who cannot understand their issue would believe.
that William guy is a huge creeper and gives off MAJOR feeder vibes
William is a feeder to.
THATS WHAT IT IS!! I always felt smth really weird about him but couldnt quite put my finger on it. Besides that, I just think he found on the fat acceptance community an opportunity to make a carreer outta of social media. He just seems disingenuous to me idk
Dude doesn't blink
I don’t think he’s a feeder tbh. I saw him mention that he used to have a restrictive ED. I honestly think he and some of the other fat activists (the one I’m thinking of is that blue haired chick) couldn’t keep up with starvation but never mentally recovered. They clearly hold SO much resentment towards people who are skinnier than them/able to successfully restrict their food intake (to a healthy or unhealthy degree). I think that he is jealous of skinny people, still wants to be the smallest but he can’t lose weight anymore, and so he wants to “sabotage” everyone else and encourage them to gain weight instead. You can just see the raw hate, anger, and jealousy in their eyes. They try to play it off like they just care or whatever, but you can see it in their faces. They NEED everyone else to lose or give up control the way they did, they NEED everyone else to gain weight the way they did, so that they can feel better about their own bodies and food habits by comparison. Comparing yourself to others, competing with them, and wanting others to eat more than you/feeling successful when others eat more than you is a big component for many people with EDs. All this to say, william doesn’t strike me as a feeder - he strikes me as someone who never properly recovered from his own ED and is now playing off his own internal jealousy and rage at his inability to starve himself anymore as “helping others”.
@@bxnny0374 omg that's even darker than being a feeder! :O It makes sense though. He is super creepy
I’m from Russia and most of families here are poor. We always cooked food at home (healthy one btw) and could afford going to McDonald’s only few times a year! The argument of eating in fast food restaurant being cheaper than cooking at home is mind blowing to me!🤦♀️
“Too tired to cook at home after work”.
Lmao sounds like a first world problem to me. Most of people from poor countries don’t have a choice, but ofc that would be classist of them to argue with his statements.
@@user-guclmgk EXACTLY, I always see these kind of arguments from first world people (esp USA) 🙄
My mom making 1 pound of ground beef stretch to feed a family of four 2-3 dinners was quite something. But she did what she needed to. The thought of asking for McDonalds when money was tight just seems appalling to me.
When people say fast food is cheaper I just think back to when my family of 5 stopped at McD’s for some egg McMuffin sandwiches. No drinks, no sides, just 5 sandwiches. It was around $30 so we backed out of the drive thru and went to the store to buy ingredients for the sandwiches. We ended up with a dozen eggs, 2 bags of English muffins and a couple packs of cheese slices all for less than the fast food would’ve been. We got double the food for a fraction of the price and tastier too.
Edit: I should note that we were vegetarian and got no meat on ours but they still charge for the meat since there’s none with just egg and cheese. So dumb.
We did the same egg McMuffin math here at home. We make breakfast sandwiches almost daily for our kids. It's cheap!
Getting charged for the meat is so annoying. I've been making beyond sausage and just egg breakfast sandwiches. I added in some left over acorn squash from Thanksgiving and it was delicious.
funny slightly unrelated thing ... I discovered that if you want an egg mcmuffin with bacon instead of ham, you have to say bacon and egg mcmuffin NOT egg mcmuffin with bacon. Because the default has ham, and when you order it with bacon, you get both meats and get charged extra.
It's wild how thoroughly easy this notion of fast food being cheaper is to debunk. I can get store brand oats and frozen berries under the price one McDonald's breakfast item and get thousands of calories out of it. Same with just getting rice, sausages, and broccoli/carrots for under $6. It definitely shows how little effort these people have put into not just their food costs, but their nutrition, to be unable to immediately dismiss this feeder.
Another excellent video! Cheers!
I was raised Irish Catholic, and my father always told my sisters, "if you find a man who can't *cook real food* [not just heating something out of a box] or sew his own button back onto his shirt, he don't need a wife or even a girlfriend. He needs his mama to cut the cord and show him how to act grown!"
Too many people, in general, were raised without some basic skills, and then fall victim to misinformation of all sorts, and it's just gross.
Thank-you! Too true. Not being able to cook is a deal breaker for me.
Love your dad for that in my culture men still expect girlfriends and wives to be their mommas. Luckily things are changing, cuz I’m not for this idea that grown adults can’t take care of themselves.
I have lived in food deserts. It’s a huge problem and no joke. None of these people who bring this up as a reason for their eating habits ever show ANY proof they live anywhere lacking access to a variety of foods. I would love for one of these people to show they don’t have a vehicle, no grocery stores close by, etc.
I hate to be “that person”, but I just feel like “good desert” is thrown around as an easy cop out for things, and it’s super gross to use as an excuse.
They cry "food desert" from their car while waiting for grocery curb side pickup. Stop using other people's problems as your excuse.
Ok I've never even seen this term before but but damn people will legit use every potential term, movement, or pyschobabble to deflect or be a victim. The people food desert applies to aren't very likely to be using terms like body positivity, fat acceptance, or "larger body individual."
They’re just showing their ignorance when they mention poor people. I’m poor and still eat healthy. Just cuz I don’t each kale salad and smoothies doesn’t mean I don’t have access to actual healthy food. I also hate when they bring up black women as if being obese is a natural trait of ours… it’s not.
@@tiahnarodriguez3809 Yeah a lot of these "movements" like to latch on to those fighting racism , actual misogyny or LGTBQ issues. Even the term "systematic oppression of fat people" is very disrespectful to people actually fighting for something more important than being seen as big and beautiful. This is in addition to them hijacking body positivity from folks deformed, handicap aka folks who actually need the support. TikTok is a cesspool of people making a part of their appearance, preferences, or beliefs their entire personality. Which probably brings in more hate than anything sadly.
@@tiahnarodriguez3809 i wish I could like this comment a few more times
Also: Hornby is seriously getting fat. He claims that he "overcame a restrictive ED," but it looks like he just swapped it out for compulsive eating, rather than actually getting to the root of the problem that began his dysfunctional relationship with food.
It's like when people in AA give up booze and swap it out for cigarettes, bad coffee, and JAY-zoos, because 12 Steps isn't going to be as effective as real mental health care. He obviously _still_ has a dysfunctional relationship with food, it's just now it's going in the other direction. That's not recovery, it's displacement.
"My [insert cover-word for obesity here] is recovery for restrictive EDs" is such a common and dangerous FatPo trope. Binging is as much of an unhealthy / disordered behaviour as undereating or purging; this line of thought is so telling of FatTok's falsely dichotomous view of health and weight.
Imagine being a kid on social media, trying to find yourself and form an identity, and you see people like these overeating and labelling it as "recovery." It's pretty worrying that stuff like this gets a platform and those debunking it get report-bombed out of the conversation.
I actually think these FAs would benefit from going to real recovery like Over Eater Anonymous. Because, with my experience in recovery (and we had everyone in the same room: alcohol, drugs, sex, gambling, food, etc.) when you treat the problem as an addiction, you take accountability for your actions and learn how to deal with your triggers. You don't just "accept" it. I also heavily believe in therapy. For me, recovery was a mix of group addiction sessions and individual therapy.
Omg he has gained quite a few pounds, I am somewhat surprised that he actually follows what he preaches and isn’t a grifter, but yeah he is eating himself sick.
@@thebodyhonestyproject Another huge problem is...they think everything is a _problem._ If you aren't eating intuitively you have an ED. Gain 20lbs over the Winter and start cutting back a few hundred calories per day and walking for a half hour extra? Well crap, you have an ED. When you feel hungry then you eat. Listen to your body. It knows when to eat. You don't see fat animals in the wilderness do you? Because they eat intuitively. We are fat because our genetics have changed. And Fast Food that is necessary because of food deserts. Yep. That's why the US has always been 75% overweight or obese. Food deserts. Idiots. I'd be 500lbs if I ate intuitively. My Ghrelin is abnormally high (over 200 1 hour after a 2K calorie balanced meal) and my Leptin is low so it takes me a ton of high volume food and liquid for my stomach to signal it is full. It sucks. I did a study at a metabolic lab related to how the body digests simple carbs in comparison to alcohol and how alcohol and simple carbs may or may not interfere with protein synthesis. It was kinda neat. Btw, they both do, but you need a boatload of simple carbs for it to be an issue. Alcohol just screws the entire process up right off the rip.
Oh, do you know what they classify as a food desert? Living more than a half mile from a Supermarket or place that sells fresh produce. A half mile, *if* 50% or more of a population no less than 500 do not have a vehicle. This includes children. This greatly skews the numbers because most children *DO NOT OWN CARS.* For some reason public transportation also does not count as access to a vehicle because...idk why. Because it would eliminate an excuse for fake victims? Half a mile from a supermarket is considered a food desert. Good grief. Now I have two cars, well a car and a truck. Apparently I live in a food Desert too! Yep, because the closest supermarket to my house is 21 miles away. 20 miles or more, regardless of whether or not you have a car means you are in a food desert too. How ludicrous is that?
I *know* a lot of people have disorders, but so many people fake them and so many things that are not serious disorders are labeled and used for victim points now it is borderline disgusting. Anorexia? Yeah, that's real. And horrible. Bulimia? Yeah, that's scary and incredibly easy to pass away from. Binge eating? Idk how much of a severe mental disorder that is, or if it is a symptom of other problems. I used to binge over 10K calories every Friday night at Olive Garden after going low cal Keto all week when cutting weight for strength camps. I *love* eating until I am stuffed. But I don't have to. The amount of people that choose to because they like it and would literally be laying in bed vomiting from hunger and having panic attacks, sweating with heart palpitations and wobbling from tunnel vision because they have to binge now is probably very, very low. Eating to cope is considered a disorder. Restricting calories when you are extremely hungry bc you know you have eaten enough that day and are trying to lose weight is a disorder now bc we should just eat apparently...it makes no sense. I get starving yourself is bad, body dysmorphia is real etc, but I have a hard time buying that all these people have disordered this and bi-polar binge eating anorexia or wtv Trish Holliday feels like diagnosing herself with on any particular given day to make herself get her next victim card. It takes away from people with real issues with binging, or starving, or vomiting, or legit panicking because they aren't sure what the calories are in something at a restaurant and they are expected to eat regardless. All problems. Real ones. But just like the tourettes streamers, most of these people are faking. They have disorders, of that I am pretty darn sure, but eating disorders probably aren't one of them.
Unfortunately, admitting that they are obese and it is their own fault is too difficult for them to process, and that's where the real disorder for most of them lies. The borderline personality disorder with narcissistic tendencies, that's what needs to be taken care of, not some nonsense eating disorder of the day. Sorry if I sound callous, but I just know so many people with real psych problems who struggle daily to get by and get zero help when they look for it and even less sympathy, but these people beg for money while lying their asses off to people, getting paid for being gluttons and liars. It can be a bit infuriating at times.
Thnaks for the content btw, it is a welcome change from the constant _Your fat and gross_ "No, I am fat and beautiful and you are brainwashed by the patriarchy."_ _Yeah, except you're gross and stupid. Heh. Gotcha._ _"No, when you read 10,000 pages of BoPo literature then maybe you won't be so uneducated and can be a genius like me. I have a degree in tribal dance social theories of the South Pacific. What do you have?"_ "Less fat than you?" Don't get me wrong, the back and forths can be funny, but you rarely see people who have been part of either side that has come to the conclusion that both extremes are culty and don't help fix the actual problems.
The man who doesnt blink, he gives me the creeps. Healthy food was mever and would never be more expensive. I eat for 60 euros a week. Meat, fish, chicken, veggies and fruit. So no sorry for 60 euros i cant eat for 7 days in a restaurant or a drive in or whatever. Great video. Thank you for pointing this out because it was always so irritating to hear them say that only rich people can afford to eat Healthy.
I can buy minute rice, beans, and frozen veg that will feed me for a week, for the cost of one McDonald's meal. It's not cheaper to eat fast food. Thanks for watching!
What’s sad is that parents can do their very best, and still cause their children to suffer. I remember when my brother and I were small children, my mom would buy fast food the most often. She was a single mother who didn’t know English as much as she does now and was overworked. She is a cna
, which is a very demanding job. She always used to say that the food in America were more unhealthy compared to the food in the DR. She only became obese when she came here. When we got older, we were able to cook for ourselves and ate a lot better. I don’t doubt my mom was trying her best, especially with the lack of knowledge and access to services we later learned about, but we still developed unhealthy eating habits and paid the cost for it.
That is very true and good to be reminded of. Your "best" may still be causing harm. And when you are aware of the harm, you can try to do better. Your mom probably didn't know how she could have done better. Most of these people do know how ... but choose not to (at least the ones that are making the TikToks). One of my kid's friend's parents stopped the fast food, and the kid has slimmed right down. He's not dieting. He's just not eating garbage anymore. go figure.
My mom is staying with us right now, due to an emergency on her end. She was being a little annoying with asking me to do things for her (her legs ain't broke, and I'm not a butler). When she made a joke about the amount of potato salad I gave her, saying, "Oh, I guess my kids don't eat like I raised them," I couldn't help shooting back, "No, I'm undoing how you raised me." Sorry, not sorry.
Lol. And I'm sure you had to work to unlearn things you were taught. Why put our kids in the same position? My kids see cooking every day. And when we are rushed, we make something healthy (healthy doesn't need to mean complicated). I kept a lot of my mom's cooking / healthy behaviours (but am trying to abandon her body shaming ones).
Fat kids and pets honestly trigger me. Look, I didn't have kids because I knew I couldn't do it responsibly. I really look down on people that have kids and don't care for them.
For Thanksgiving I bought a huge bag of carrots for under $2 that I cooked and it was so tasty and easy and made multiple servings, get a bag of rice for under $2, they have microwavable ones that take 90 seconds, add a little protein like a veggie chicken or chicken piece and bam. You're full and healthy.
His point about fat food having more calories per dollar than broccoli is hilarious as a defense. That's literally why the kids are fat, if they're fat they have more calories than they needed. In his mind it's either fat obese kid or they're dead of starvation 😂
I have 2 kids, but live with 4. We cook 90% of the time. All kids play sports and need good nutrition. Being a parent is not convenient. But what are we doing to our kids if we feed them crap? We are setting them up for a life time processed food addiction, obesity, joint pain, health, and financial problems. As parents we owe it to our kids to do our best, and food parenting needs to be a priority.
I don’t know how it is in the USA but in Europe frozen veggies usually is seen as more nutritious. The veggies get frozen here almost the moment they got harvested so all vitamins staying inside. If I buy it freshly then there is the transportation, staying in the supermarket.
Also I know the food is more expensive in the USA / Canada but from my perspective it is a lot more expensive to go to McDonald’s. A full meal costs 7€. For 7
€ I get 2kg potatoes or rice and a lot of frozen veggies (broccoli, cauliflower, spinach, carrot) and 10 eggs with which I can cook for a week alone or a lot of people 2-3 days. Depending on the variety they would would want
I don't know if the logic applies to all frozen veggies or just the ones that are labelled as "flash frozen". I remember buying raspberries and was told you can tell they are flash frozen because they are individually frozen berries and not a clump of frozen mush, so they were frozen immediately after picking to preserve their nutrients rather than picked and stored, then frozen later. But that's just a minor detail. Frozen still has lots of nutrients (flash frozen or otherwise).
People that lack the ability to look beyond the meal they are eating will say it's cheaper to eat fast food. Not recognizing that the same money gets them food not only for today but for other days. I will also hear the argument, "I don't want to make a large pot and eat the same thing every day", and I'm not saying you have to ... but what are you doing anyways? A lot of people DO eat the same fast food everyday but complain about leftovers? weird.
Traditional, mainly plant-based meals are usually both simple and inexpensive. That's why they're traditional. Rice and beans, split pea soup, lentil soup, lapskaus, curries and other dishes you can make with a carb + whatever ingredients you can get cheap.
Yep. There are so many easy slow-cooker meals you can make in a few minutes. Before work, throw ingredients in pot. Come home to dinner. It's not that hard if you truly want to eat healthy.
"Let's at least compare chicken to chicken." 🤣🤣
This is a great video! Modeling proper eating habits for one's children is a very important part of food parenting. I would like to add that an equally important part of maintaining health and securing future health is exercise. It's great if children are enrolled in sports or dance, but family activities are very important as well because children tend to benefit from spending time with their parents, and parents need exercise too. Even an after-dinner walk or going to public swimming or skating once a week can become part of the family schedule.
That was a very important point to say that Tess and Tammy were children once. And that their bringing-up led them to where they are today. I believe in both of their cases that their problems did begin in childhood.
There are also kids who grew up in very sedentary homes, with many overweight family members, who, as adults, chose to become active and eat healthful foods. I have several friends like this, and Michelle McDaniel of the "my thoughts will probably offend you" channel is an excellent example. This requires great determination and perseverance because she faced ridicule from family members and friends for choosing a health-focused lifestyle.
I noticed that all the FAs love blaming "the system." This is very convenient because they are putting all their energy into "fixing" the system, which (they must be aware) is going to be pretty difficult. They focus on this instead of making realistic and do-able changes in their own life to improve their health (and mental health - victimhood mentality must be exhausting but I suppose there must be a self-righteous glow that comes with it). Everybody and everything else should change to suit them.
Thanks for the video!
PS. Your hair is gorgeous!
Thank-you so much for the detailed comment. I thought it was ridiculous that William went for the brocolli comparison when pre-cooked chicken from the grocery store was a much more logical comparison. Half the calories, twice the protein, a small fraction of the fat and carbs. Oh, and the grocery store one is cheaper (and you don't have to cook it either).
Modelling is so important. I know so many people that swore that they'd feed their children differently than what they eat, and they might start out that way ... but if their habits aren't good, they pass them on to their kids. I don't say anything to my friends with fat kids, but it makes me sad.
I also think about how upset they'd be if the system was changed. If fresh healthy food was more readily available and garbage processed food was less available and more expensive. If the only cheap food you could get were salads and lean proteins. What would they say then? Probably complain that people didn't have choice anymore and that the government was controlling them.
@@thebodyhonestyproject I wonder if he chose broccoli on purpose as that tends to be the poster boy of “vegetables that kids hate.” This was maybe kind of a ploy that “obviously you’re going to feed your kid a meal that they like and is easy to get, and is not a gross vegetable they will only eat if they’re literally starving.” (Has anybody ever had a meal that consists entirely of broccoli, William?)
Regarding parenting, you are obviously a very organized, high-functioning, and goal-oriented person so you are able to make a plan and have the resolve to stick with it even if your kids complain - but I think being organized and being firm does not come naturally to most people so they choose the path of least resistance. (Maybe it also does not come naturally to you but you have a strong enough personality to have wanted to learn how to be like that, and you have succeeded.)
It’s too bad you can’t show your friends this reality show, which is no longer on: “honey, we’re killing the kids“. This is one of the very few episodes that are on RUclips. Start at 4:45 to see the images of the children as they are currently and how the software predicts they will age based on their current food intake (lots) and exercise (very little) ruclips.net/video/kA0mn7hm_sQ/видео.html
Then someone works with the parents to help them incorporate healthier meals and exercise into their daily lives. It’s quite possible that a lot of parents are not aware if their child is obese. It may look obvious to others, but people often think “it’s just baby fat and they will grow out of it.“ It was also excellent that the host pointed out that the daughter was not overweight, but that she did have poor nutrition.
That was very insightful regarding if the system actually were changed. I had never thought of that before! I assumed that “fixing the system” to them means that everybody can eat everything they want anytime they want, and also every public convenience and taxpayer-funded building must be fully anti-fatphobic. (There is one video of a girl who explains what we must do if we want to be considered fat allies. This is from the cynical dude’s channel: ruclips.net/video/vvDYniRoAuQ/видео.html)
If the processed food was taken away, they would most likely shout “my body my choice”. After all, they “don’t owe us health.” I’ve heard that phrase a number of times and I’m still trying to figure out what it means. (It’s my party and I’ll make myself sick if I want to?)
Thank you for the conversation!
William comparing chicken nuggets to broccoli instead of store bought cooked chicken is similar to when the personal trainer Laura compares a Lenny and Larry cookie to a fast food cheeseburger. When she does compare similar things, like the "healthy" cookie to a candy bar, she still picks candy that weighs half as much as the cookie and acts like it's shocking information that the candy has fewer calories.
@@BrieCheese Great example! It’s almost like they will say anything to “prove“ whatever point they’re trying to make. The people who want to believe them will believe them because that is exactly what they want to hear.
i don't even think they actually want any systemic change either. the people in food deserts definitely do, but FAs are way too stuck in their cult-like thinking and echo chamber to actually make changes that address the root causes
I’m not a parent but my family was once poor. We lived in a food desert. Yeah there was fast food, and corner stores but the nearest grocery store was farther than a walk or even car ride. Me and my aunt used to take the TRAIN and a bus to get fresh foods. And we shopped at Aldi and farmers markets. There the food was cheaper and fresh. Infact fast food was more expensive than regular groceries
the **fantastic** point you make: “supporting” diet culture / industry vs. supporting fast food industries is one i have not heard before. this is a definite mic drop moment 👏👏👏👏
13:17 you nailed it. It was once I stopped ‘supporting the diet industry’ that I found a way of life that resulted long lasting weight loss and fitness. No diet supplements, no diet foods, no paid gym memberships or workout programs, etc… I simply stopped buying all the processed fast foods and carbs in favor of unprocessed Whole Foods… 90% of my groceries come from the butchers and farmers market of produce isle. That 90% is only growing too. I’ve discovered how quick, easy and cheep it is to make my own mayo and sauces at home and how much better they are. And as for exercise…. I didn’t even consider it in any formal way. I was obese and saw exercise as a possible road to injury further slowing any weight loos. I did find that I naturally ended up on more hikes, walks, swims, etc as the weight dropped and the natural foods full of nutrients that my body was able to process… I just had all kinds of energy that needed to be burned… so in the end I was paying WAY less on food and nothing on ‘fitness’ and still managed to lose around 100lbs in a year and just keep getting fitter as time goes by despite me being a decade older now than when I started this ‘natural health’ journey.
It's ridiculous that weight loss of any sort means diet culture to them while saying fast food consumers are victims. I only believe that if they admit that they are victims to their addiction of processed carbs.
Big topic. And as expected, lots of good points.
The argument I have most sympathy with is the time issue. Back in the day when I was working stupid hours (up to and over 12 hour days, plus an hour walking each way as a commute), even twenty minutes waiting for food to cook felt like too much to bear. Fast or convenience food took 5 minutes or less on my route home. That place with the Indian curries just waiting to be scooped into takeaway boxes was sterling even if you couldn't avoid the oil...
Cost: Funtie Times has been doing a series on living costs with obesity and the numbers are eye-watering. (Sam at every size did a one-off, too.) The increasing child obesity rates really prove that a sufficiency of calories is not the issue. If you took the money spent on fast food overconsumption and instead bought healthier options, you might well come up with a calorie value smaller but therefore closer to what a child actually needs. Plus, the extra micronutrients...
Childhood food memories...aaah! My mother was a fantastic cook, but we'd also get street food once or twice a week. Those tastes are inimitable! But I guess the biggest factor in our food upbringing was: no snacking. I might have gone a little off the rails once I was on my own - chocolate every day instead of once a week!
Good comparison of chicken with nuggets. Also valuable to know that frozen and canned - especially pickled - veg can be as good as if not better than old "fresh" produce. And if we look at the poorest people in the world, they're not the ones queueing up at McDonalds. You might say that's because they don't have fast food outlets nearby. But why don't they have fast food outlets? Because the companies know they can't make a profit in these communities...
Have rabbitted on long enough so will shut up now. As ever, lots of good thoughts in the rest of the comment section, too. :-)
I like this discussion a lot. Because I’m a single mother who works full time, studies part time, and parents nonstop. And I make home cooked food. For every meal.
And yes. It’s hard. I’m up at 5am and I’m married to my crock pot (and my paleobiology book)
And I don’t just do this because it’s healthier. I do it because it’s CHEAPER. I can make a week’s worth of wholesome food for the price of a day’s worth of fast food.
Maybe the people who have actually done the work know more than the fast food addict full of excuses and who never tried what I’m doing. Because I did it. I have the comparative numbers. You’re just wrong if you think fast food is less expensive. Fast food is a luxury treat in my reality. Goddamn.
Yes. It takes more time. But if I can do it, you probably can too. There are hours in a day where you don’t have to do anything. If you set your alarm early enough or stay up late enough. Those are the golden hours. Use that time to cook. And really love it. It’s fun!
@@BeckBeckGo Paleobiology? Biologist or fellow earth scientist?
Either way, more power to you (and your hectic schedule)!
And sure, “my kid won’t eat healthy food”
Google is your friend in this case. Search strings should contain words like “kid friendly”
Also, if this is the option, children may play a big game, but they’re biologically wired to not starve to death. And I can guarantee “this is what’s on the menu” for two days straight, those little beggars will eat it.
Understand if your kid hates, absolutely hates a certain food, it’s best to remove that food from the menu for awhile. I’m more saying that don’t have any junk food alternatives in the house. Their alternatives are some other healthy option. Listen to your kid. My kid hates certain things. She hates olives, for example, and celery. But she loves tomatoes and carrots and broccoli.
And if she wants chips, sorry gorl, we don’t have that.
Give a kid a choice between healthy foods and she’ll choose the one she’s willing to eat.
As time goes on, you shape their expectations of what mealtime means. It gets easier over time with consistency. I promise.
Ya but you can get cheap and healthy microwave food even. You can get packaged premade curry and rice 90 seconds in the microwave for $6, $3 each. I mean as someone who makes all my own food on a tight schedule I get it but I know it's worth it and I plan for the days I know I'll have where I don't want to, I make larger batches and freeze stuff and have easy to cook healthy options. I mean even soups are cheap and much healthier than fast food. Aldi has these huge cans of soups for $2 you could feed two people. You could even do bagged side salad, grilled cheese and microwave soup, a huge meal that takes 5 minutes to cook and is more filling than McDonald's for like $6
The problem is the education system and most our parents don't prepare us for this. We've lost cooking skills and planning and so we either learn it or fall in the trap. I thank you tube for all the inspiration and learning and I will pass it on to my daughter :)
@@BeckBeckGo ya I think interestingly media also put a lot of food fear into especially my generation around vegetables like spinach and broccoli ect they were always jokes and ew gross in cartoons. Once my child started eating solidary I made her food and then when she could eat eat we always shared, she just had what I was having and I don't force food because just cause it's meal time doesn't mean she's hungry, if she is shell eat. She's tried so much different foods, tofu, curry, all types of veggies and interesting foods because that's what I was having and she just had to try it didn't have to like it. People want convince too much and it breaks my heart when I hang with other parents and they'd rather be on their phone than be with their kids. If you look at your daily phone time like really are honest with yourself you have the time to cook and eat healthy or even meal prep. But ugh I'll stop there I could ramble on lol
"You could be raising the next FatFabFeminist"
As a parent, that is single-handedly the most terrifying sentence I have ever heard. I will redouble my already considerable efforts to not do so. Well played, ma'am.
Glad it had the desired impact. Imagine your offspring making those TikToks ... Extra veggies in the lunch today kids!
I live in an area where supermarket produce can be more expensive than going to Dollar Tree or Dollar General or a 99 cent store. There is more processed food at these places. It's not just going to fast food places. BUT you are right about how frozen produce can help. If something is canned in water it can work too. Dollar General is getting better at it because I saw that they have fresh produce.
We are a mixed bag when it comes to healthy food availability. Because even though processed food is cheaper at these discount stores and there is a lot of fast food, we are still lucky enough to have street produce vendors that take food stamps in my State. They are very popular. And their produce is better quality and cheaper than the supermarket. I shudder at the thought that street vendors could ever stop coming. It would imply food shortages or the State government starting to flip off the poor.
Fat activists are not fighting for the produce street vendors or farmers markets everywhere for everyone. Or at least to get more of these vendors out there in participating cities. Or to stop perfectly healthy food from being wasted. Fat Activists are not allies of lower-class and working class people of any race.
The fight has never been about getting healthy food available. They use food deserts as their "reason", but they put their energy into fighting stores to carry more sizes. They don't really care about the reason why they are fat. They don't want to solve that. They want their fatness accommodated.
That toxic corporations vs diet industry comparisons was amazingly insightful!
They always say there's no billion dollar weight gain industry when they talk about diet culture. Ummm yes, yes there is ...
You gotta set your kids up for success. These people will make every excuse. I know for me I have to calculate it all. A pack of chicken, veggies and some rice will go a long way. They never see the big picture. Like you said, you aren't just eating for yourself, you have another person to care for, so those meals add up quick!
Exactly!!! Aldi has these amazing high protein salmon burgers for $2 for 4.... So that rice and frozen broccoli even if you got 2 bags of patties for everyone would be a healthy and great meal for what $9 for a family of 4 if you got two bags of patties yet if you went to McDonald's and for a family of 4 they each got three items, fries, burger and drink they'd still be hungry and it's be $12+... The math doesn't add up. My kiddo had so much fun trick or treating we made it about the experience not the candy and I hid it away and she got a few pieces and in a few days forgot. Her and I make healthy baked goods all the time without all the bs and she'd much rather have that. We still will get treats when we're out and about or it's something unique but she tries so much fun stuff and eats so we'll cause we don't have her on total garbage! My parents didn't try any ethnic foods or anything other than a small revolving window of bland horrible food and my child makes curry, breads and all kinds of stuff with me, I won't rob her of a healthy life like mine did.
Their view is very short sighted. Give a kid a hamburger, they eat for a meal. Spend the same on chicken, rice, and frozen veg, they eat for a week.
Fantastic video Lydia!! certainly one of my favorites that you have done. The excuses are wearing thin and more videos like yours, with actual facts, prayfully will get through to at least some people and shut down the ridiculous rhetoric😡🤬 I appreciate what you do!!
Thank you xoxo
Thank-you! The arguments seem to be getting more ridiculous. I can't believe William states cost per calorie as a positive trait ... ummm that's the problem! That's why we have so many obese children! Just when I think I'm gonna run out of content soon, they say shit like this.
I am too lazy to spend more than 15-20min per meal and am on a budget. I buy frozen veggies all the time too, not only because they are cheap but also because it means I don’t have to cut anything. I just pour it into the pan and I’m done. 🤷🏻♀️ Lovin it.
Totally agree. The not chopping and no-spoiling make frozen veggies great. I actually cook at home instead of going out BECAUSE "I'm too lazy". A lot of things are way easier.
I grew up poor, my mom always cooked food. Take away or fast food was a rare treat. Maybe 10 times a year max. I grew up with that, and it take’s little to no time when you get used to planning in advance. It costs me no more than 60p a meal cause you bulk prep and cook. And it’s probably cheaper I’m going on the high end. So happy I did learn nutrition, portions and planning.
I feed my 13 year old healthy food. No fast food. He doesn't like it. We can't afford to eat out, thankfully. I prepare our meals. Love this channel.
I cook almost every day. We probably eat out or get take out once a month. All four kids and two adults here are active and are at a healthy weight. Nobody is on a "diet". Nobody "restricts". Good habits for life.
Thank you for this video. This one really resonated with me. I have medical issues that require a relatively strick diet to stay asymptomatic (or at least keep em mild) and, once I started to work with my doctors and dietitians and learned what diet works for me, I felt so much better and realised just how convenient it can be to stay healthy. Like you said, it's not necessary to eat organic and fresh. Just by keeping nutritious options available at home in larger quantities (liked canned beans, frozen veggie mixes, eggs and buying mostly wholegrain stuff) I'm less tempted to go out for the unhealthier options because making bigger portions of balanced, nutritious foods is so much cheaper and often better (cause I can control the ratios and spices).
With these people (in fat acceptance), I often feel like they just don't want to have any control over their actions so they done have to take accountability for the way their choices impact their lives. Like I'm absolutely willing to believe you get handed some shitty cards in life ("bad" genes, addictions, abuse, economic situation or lacking/misguided upbringing etc) but people are rarely without any good choices, they just aren't easy or convenient ones
Accountability is a big problem for them. They want to "have no choice", but really it's that they "don't like their choice". Big difference. And it's one thing to make the bad choice for yourself ... and another to make the bad choice for your children.
The narrative of eating healthy being more expensive is absolutely absurd. I started a year and a half ago making one small change at a time so I would lose weight and be able to keep it off. Today's weigh in I am down 109.5 pounds so far. As of about 7 pounds ago, I'm no longer obese. The thing is that I spend way less now than I did back then. I could actually buy a week's worth of food for just what I would pay on the weekend for just one meal of pizza for my kids and I. On the biggest grocery trips it's about the same amount as two days worth of pizza, but it also stocks up chicken and eggs for several weeks. That doesn't include all of the ice cream, candy, chips, hot pockets (for my lunches) and other junk food I was buying every week. It also doesn't include the fast food I would eat because I "didn't feel like cooking." Yeah... Eating healthy is so expensive that I'm saving hundreds of dollars a month, now that I am eating healthy.
I had a period of time when money was tight, and the thought of ordering take-out was horrifying because I knew I could get groceries for the week for the price of take-out. I'd try to shop every week for $150, so one take-away meal for me and my kids would eat into a lot of that.
In order to be the size of these FAs, you need to spend a lot on food.
For me growing up, it was getting food from the church and learning how to cook it with my recipes that made the food even better to eat. About 20 years ago there was something these fast food places had that was a 99 cent menu. The burgers on those menus haven't gotten bigger so there's no way I'm paying what they charge for their food now. Having worked at a few fast food places you don't want to eat again.
your videos are so good. you really hit every point, and i appreciate the educational approach as opposed to the "haha fat people are cringe" route that a lot of other channels seem to take.
I always like to speak with a point. Every video has a subject or theme. This one had a lot of good points because William said a lot of garbage! I think that rather than just laugh at them, or even tear them line by line, I'd rather draw attention to the bigger issue, and here it was food parenting and the parent's responsibility to feed and teach their children. But I can't do it all without ANY snark ... Thx for watching!
Oddly, the metric I tend to use is useful nutrients per dollar, or protein per dollar (a macro I stress a bit as without a gallbladder, fats and I have our Little Arguments). So I dry Brussels sprouts as snacks (low cal, low fat, high nutrient, highly filling) per dollar, and dry mandarin oranges as snacks (moderate cal, no fat, tasty as all get out, fun snack). Both are quite cheap if you DIY.
My mom often uses cost per gram of protein. She doesn't buy much packaged stuff, but when she saw my built bars, she told me they were good value because of the protein per dollar. I don't buy much packaged stuff either, but I do have a few things like my built bars that I like.
Japan: let's teach our children the importance of nutrition, food safety, cooking, and sustainability in each school meal.
US: If you don't give your kids ultra-processed slop every day, you're giving them an eating disorder.
What happens when your society is ruled only by money and not by the actual welfare of the population.
Thank you for the message. I feel the real issue is many don’t know how to cook 😢
Too true. thx for watching!
I find it weird that for as much as they talk about people struggling to afford food their solution is “eat fast food” and not like… advocate for better food stamps programs, abolish food deserts, and increase access to food pantries, as well as things like raising the minimum wage, rent caps, subsidized housing, affordable education, improve public transportation, universal basic income, etc. that all affect people’s ability to afford and obtain food.
Side note: One of the best things I ever did for myself as an adult is create a compendium of quick easy recipes that I can damn near prepare in my sleep. I have a bunch that I’ve printed off the internet or pulled from magazines that I keep in an easy to flip through book, but there’s a core set that are basically just in my head and I always keep a base set of ingredients on hand for them. I highly recommend everyone if you have kids or not does this for themselves, because when you cant decide what to eat It’s so easy to turn to take out, but when you can quickly flip through some easy recipes you know you love or just have some in your head that you know you’ve got ingredients for It’s much easier to say “no” to all the junk
I'm as well is trying to create a compendium of quick easy recipes. I will admit it's been a challenge because I don't know where to start to get this “ recipe” but I realize I am not the only one that had this issue others are going through it as well. You can right now on RUclips find people who demonstrate how you can quickly create a meal on a budget, which had been a tremendous help to me.
It’s pretty awful that there are people like this guy online essentially doing free advertising for the fast food industry, convincing people that it’s perfectly ok to subsist on fast food and feed it to their children as a normal staple. I’m sure McDonalds execs love guys like this. This kind of content is a whole lot like magazine articles that talk about new studies which claim butter is a health food. Telling people good news about their bad habits is a great way to garner an audience.
I think that Laura from my jumping to conclusions video is actually sponsored by McDonalds
Frozen veggies are stopped from losing nutrition and rotting I swear by them!! They're cheaper and you waste them less!
Yes. no spoil!
I totally agree with you. I believe that not educating yourself and your children about healthy lifestyle choices, including consuming healthy nutritious food. To me, poor nutrition and unhealthy food consumption is a form of child abuse! The guy’s argument about a monetary value per calorie and saying junk food gives more bang for your buck is severely flawed! You’re far better off health and fibre wise by eating fruit and vegetables. Human physical and mental health is not a matter of consuming an excessive amount of calories, chemicals and salt. In fact the reverse is true, we need to be aware of what our bodies need to stay healthy and if everyone did this, obesity wouldn’t be an issue. We are the only animal that overeats, is living on unhealthy and unnatural foods and not exercising enough. People forget we are basically an animal. If we all ate naturally healthy foods and in the correct proportion to our exercise levels, obesity would also not be a problem. The physical and psychological health problems associated with poor diet or over consumption reflects in children’s development, performance both in the short and long term.
Healthy food is not expensive!
I have 5 kids (one with autism and food issues) and feeding them healthy food isnt expensive, whats expensive is pre packaged crap. If i were to not make 99 percent of our food and relied on processed food my grocery bill for our family of 7 would double. Put a protein in the crockpot with some good spices, steam up a veggie, and put some rice or potatoes in the instant pot and your done. Ive done this when technically my family was just above the poverty level because my husband was barely making 19 dollars an hour and i do it still now that my husband makes good money. Some days we do have mac and cheese when weve had a crazy busy day but it averages to maybe twice a month.
Reminds me of how my mom fed us. Chili, hamburger gravy, turkey a la king ... mom knew how to stretch groceries. And we never ate any processed junk. A box of cookies would be such a treat. It is possible to feed your family healthy on a budget. You just have to make it a priority.
Compare price per meal serving of dried beans (20 cents) to ANYTHING on a dollar menu. Cook a bag in a crock pot, put servings in freezer and a meal microwaves in 3 minutes. Faster and cheaper than fast food. 300 calories, zero fat, loaded with protein. Also consider oats, lentils, barley soup, etc. What you save on the protein can be spent on some nice fresh veggies. I rest my case.
Facts. It is possible. My mom raised us on hamburger gravy and chicken a la king. She cooked on a shoe string budget. But we were nourished and healthy. Nobody was obese. Fast food was a one in a while treat. Not a daily staple. There is far more access to junk food nowadays, but I raise my kids the same way. Home cooked balanced meals 90% of the time.
Loved the last line, “ Till next time stay body positive, but also body honest “ !
Thank-you! This world needs a little more body honesty :)
That intro of you just clapping back after so many videos of you so calmly deconstructing FatTok insanity totally caught me off guard! I hope that was as cathartic to you as it was for me to watch it.
Lol. I couldn't resist. I said that out loud the first time I saw the TikTok and wanted to include it in the intro. William gets the prize for stupidest FA metric.
My jaw dropped when he said "Because they need it to survive!". The use of language here is deceptive, because no child needs fast food to survive, and fast food is definitely NOT cheaper than healthy home-cooked meals. He's basically saying, "if you go to Mcdonald's you could spend $15 and consume 1500 calories in ONE sitting, why WOULDN'T you choose the more calorie dense option, like DUH?!", when in reality I could prep myself enough food to last me a week for about $30. Let's say I use William's logic, and decide to eat fast food for an entire week, and JUST for dinner; I'd be down $105. If I did that for breakfast, lunch and dinner, I'd be down hundreds each week. So do I "know what the alternative is for most people who regularly eat fast food?". Yes, yes I do, and it prevents me from consuming the same garbage that seems to have rotted his brain and caused him to have the logic of a potato and the stare of a serial killer.
Thank you for calling this man out. Absolutely everything about him makes me feel intensely uncomfortable.
He is causing just so much damage. If you look at his comments section, it's full of supporters that agree with him. All these people want their bad choices to be justified. Nobody wants accountability. Change happens when people are accountable. Stop telling people they are helpless.
@@thebodyhonestyproject Love that message, keep doing what you're doing!
I ate a lot of canned and frozen produce as a kid. We had fresh stuff too, but the canned and frozen items are so useful for working parents trying to make a quick meal. Pasta and tacos were both regular meals at our house. That might not sound super healthy, but it was usually balanced with a side salad and/or cooked veggies and a serving of fruit. I think my parents did a great job with making healthy meals even while they were trying to find options that were quick and easy. Fast food was part of the diet, too, but that was usually just when we were already out and about and needed something quick.
Amazing video. It baffles me every time how much misinformation there is about food cost!
I feel that some people said it, and now it's being spread by people that don't want to verify it. They just want to use the misinformation as justification to eat what they want.
I’m so glad I found your channel, I love watching you! Keep up the amazing work💗
Where my problem with this style of parenting lays, is that obese children usually have obese parent. And no matter how much fat activists claim that obesity is perfectly healthy, in general people know it isn't, they have their own struggles with their health, but they raise their children in the way, that leads to the same issues.
I'm an obese parent, I struggle with my body image and weight for most of my life, and I have a little doppelganger that is my daughter. And no way in hell do I want her to struggle the way I do, so my goal as a parent - give her the information and make sure she has options. If she becomes obese while being adult and living on her own - that would be her own fault, and, although I will offer help and advice, it would be her own responsibility. But right now - it's mine, so I will cook healthy food, I will give her treats occasionally, so she won't develop BED regarding "forbidden fruit" like I did, I will make sure she's active whenever it's possible.
And, most importantly, I will continue losing weight and show her on my own example, what healthy lifestyle looks like and that it's possible to get there even after a dozen of years of bad decisions.
Modelling modelling modelling. Obese parents may have the intention of teaching their children "do as I say, not as I do", but that rarely pans out. The children either rebel and adopt the parent's habits, or the parents tire of keeping two standards of food and the kids end up eating like the parents eventually. Great job showing your daughter what a healthy lifestyle looks like, and seeing you lose weight in a healthy way will show her (1) it's possible if she ever gets in that position (2) maybe she won't be in that position if she just continues to eat as mom is showing her. Great job!
@@thebodyhonestyproject seeing it from child's perspective, if my mon would tell me "do as I say" and she herself not doing it, my initial reaction would be - why should I? You don't want to do it yourself, why should I go through all of this? The only way to make sure your kids eat healthy, is to make your whole family eat healthy
I’ve never eaten healthier than when I was my most poor
I can’t afford fast food, food shelfs constantly give out canned veggies, not enough cash to afford drinking calories outside of a rare treat
tuna salad (with different seasonings or veggies thrown in) & black coffee were my staples
It’s interesting. I grew up in the 90s, developed anorexia between ages 8 and 9, although not properly diagnosed until I was 19…but grew up with what most would consider relatively healthy eating habits presented (from the outside). Fast food was an EXTREME rarity, as in maybe if we were on vacation ONCE during that time. We never were allowed to get ice cream from the truck, never got slurpees from 7/11, or blizzards from Dairy Queen. I was constantly told ‘it’s too expensive’ or at the same time, ‘it’s not healthy’. Perhaps both correct. But I never had any of the ‘fun’ food my friends had, I would constantly try to trade, because I didn’t even get cheese strings or applesauce cups let alone pudding cups or granola bars or heaven forbid chocolate. I became extremely secretive and hoarding with my Halloween candy, although I basically didn’t eat it even. I wasn’t taught the WHYs of things or taught moderation. So as a young adult, things swung into full on b/p cycles with an extremely low weight (I hit about bmi 14 at my worst). Yes, food is neutral. Technically. It’s also way more complex than that. Food is social, food is fun, food is fuel etc. I think a tiny bit more guidance (which would have involved small amounts of the ‘fun’ side of things, actually would have been very helpful. Now, I’m not even talking McDonalds, I have had that maybe 5 times in my life, only ever had one hamburger from there as a child and I didn’t even like it. I’m talking…let’s occasionally have fun by getting a drink or treat at the mall when we’re shopping, or heaven forbid get a slightly more packaged item that appeals to kids (mostly because the friends had them this way) such as cheese strings vs cut up cheese slices in plastic wrap. There is a balance to everything. I’m working to maintain that balance. I’m at a very okay weight (bmi 19.5-20ish) and in recovery from anorexia, but I basically don’t cook from scratch. I probably eat a few too many of the vegetarian sandwiches from Starbucks, and don’t really like water (our tap water typically tastes pretty bad unless you’re really thirsty). I’m working on things though. I’m also a busy person, working at least 40 hours a week of weird hours and bussing all around my city, and my old anorexia dislike of handling food is still kind of there. So I get the ‘I’m too tired to cook’ argument…so I’m looking to increase my capacity/capability of fast/instant food fixes at home. Such as banana and peanut butter, apples, boiled eggs, toast and say lentil soup (I’m a vegetarian and cannot even stand the thought of being forced to have meat again, which my one eating disorder program required, and it was the only one in my province so you either did it or died basically. Whole other rant and story there). I know I can eat way less expensive than those Starbucks sandwiches as simple veggie food is pretty dirt cheap, I just need to get into the habit of cooking again. If I do someday have kids, I’m going to approach food quite differently with them. Not neutral, but situational and not so limiting that my kids develop a complex (I should also mention my dad as I was growing up was class one obesity, and my mom approached it in all the wrong ways). Healthy foods for the most part, but with full explanations, not just blanket shut down statements. And full involvement with cooking, planning, and shopping. I was generally a part of that as a kid, but more as a forced labourer than a participant with any sort of voice. EDs are not just about food, but we CAN help prevent them through mindful and purposeful interactions with and around food. Wish me luck on my journey to preparing more food myself lol…
Sounds like you've been through quite a lot. At both ends. Glad to hear that you aren't giving up on yourself (in either direction). You NEED TO EAT. But it sounds that you do eat healthy foods even if they aren't fancy (they don't have to be). Having kids, changes the game .. because you can't be selfish. Your habits effect them. My mom did some great things and not so great things with me. She taught me to cook and taught me about nutrition. But she also body shamed me ... I'm trying to take the good and leave the bad with my kids. Best of luck. You can get to the habits you desire with consistency. thx for watching!
@@thebodyhonestyproject thanks! Made a tofu stir fry with veggies and Asian sesame sauce last night and had enough for today too :)
My parents gave me an amazing childhood. I couldn’t have asked for better parents. Neither one had really ever been poor, but we’re raised by parents who had been poor. The only thing I would really criticize them for was how they taught and modeled horrible, horrible food habits. Seriously bad. I was 200lb in seventh grade. Now I’ve got that “fat kid” mentality that I don’t think will ever go away. My mom was a serial dieter, doing even the 300cal a day diets. Her hair and nails were brittle, she was scared of fats, etc (thank you, 80’s diet fads) and she’s had three major joints replaced while being overweight.
After losing 60lb, I’ve become a licensed health coach. My dad died of cancer (I’m pretty sure from poor diet, but cannot confirm) and now my mom is getting healthier and I’m helping retrain her from my new found knowledge. While I wish things had been different from the start, it’s fun to learn together. And I’m excited to be able to help my kids eat healthy without paying much attention to a number on a scale. Thank you for the great video!
Thank-you for sharing your story. I see that your parents were good parents but lacked the education on how to properly feed you. Glad to see that you and your mom have found the way together. I'm sure your Dad would have been proud to see you now. Thx for watching!
I’m so confused. Aren’t most people who struggle to provide food for their children on food stamps?? Can’t food stamps ONLY be used at the grocery store?? I would know because my family had to go on food stamps for a bit when I was in middle school. My mom apologized to my sister and I and said we’d only be able to eat at home for awhile
I grew up with very little but we generally had enough to eat. We couldn’t afford the more expensive veggies, fruit and meats but we were still able to have the more affordable ones in the house. Some nights we had just beans, rice and corn tortillas for dinner. Very economical. But beans and rice are perfectly nourishing meal. I realize that carbs have become the devil but I really don’t subscribe to such thinking and I certainly didn’t at the time. It is possible to eat relatively healthy even on a budget. Also, fast food is not that cheap of an option anymore so is it even a valid argument anymore?
Something I wish we would talk more about is how many of these fast and junk foods are literally designed to be addictive. They're made to be extremely delicious (but never filling) with the perfect amounts of salt, sugar, and fat by teams of highly-paid food scientists. These companies configure their products specifically to get us hooked. We need to be extremely on guard that food companies are our enemies in many ways. The book Salt Sugar Fat really opened my eyes.
Also it’s hard to be satisfied eating 6 nuggets, medium fries and a medium pop. Where a whole apple, peanut butter, crackers and a glass or milk are going to be more filling and less calories
If I ate only McDonalds, I'd be so fat. I'm so hungry an hour after eating it. It does nothing for me. Whereas I can eat half as much calorically at home and be satisfied for hours.
@@thebodyhonestyproject exactly that’s what he’s manipulating people into thinking higher calories is better then being filling and nutritious
Literally never planning to have kids but here I am
Edit: this is an incredibly good video. Your points are well explained and you present them well. I'll use this knowledge for my imaginary kids
I was legit poor as a young adult. Fast food is not cheap. It’s low quality. There’s a difference. I lived off of canned and frozen fruits and veggies. I ate tons of oatmeal and peanut butter, and whatever else was on sale.
Very good video. No kiddos yet. The end about prioritizing nutrition is a good mantra I am working on for myself. I want to be a good role model for my future little ones! Thanks for your message and voice as always.
Thank-you! We all should take care of ourselves. But we are responsible by law to take care of our children. If the family in the uk was charged gross negligence for letting their child die from their obesity, where is the line? Parents ARE responsible for feeding their children.
Just wanna say I love your channel! I was never into fat acceptance but I did have a lot of negative thoughts about myself and my ability to lose weight and ever since finding your channel and other channels like it while simultaneously succeeding at losing weight it just feels like I do have support from you and other creators! I came for the cringe but am staying for the support and valuable info ❤
Thank you so much. Professionally, I’m an instructor (but not in this subject area), so my videos are “lessons” with a bit of sass. I’m privileged to be part of your health journey. Keep it up and thanks for watching!
I like this channel and these vids. My only issue is the background music is too loud and distracting
Working on it!
This one is hilarious though, because in US, obesity rate is almost the same rate accross all economical classes. And so far I searched, a bit under 7,5% of US Americans live in a food desert. There used to be a big gap in the 70s , which closed to be near to the same. I am French and lived in Germany and Holland. In those countries, people also use prices of fruits and vegetables to justify obesity or not eating healthily (since it is indeed true in those countries that people in poverty have higher obesity rates). Only, I lived under the poverty line for years , I still always ate healthy. For sure, we never bought strawberies/berries, aspargius or truffles. We sticked to carrots, potatoes, lettuce (cheaper sorts), onions, apples, bananas, fruits in season , maybe some dried fruits, beans are also super cheap. I searched a bit and read (correct me if I´m wrong) that food deserts still sell frozen vegetables and fruits, that´d be my go to if I had no fresh available...canned being the last choice...
Also my daughter is autistic like me and has many foods aversions (I´m lucky I didn´t have aversions towards healthy foods). I found ways to work with /around that to still get her to eat a healthy diet. I´d be faster to tell what she eats rather than what she doesn´t eat. But I still managed to make her eat 4-6 portions of vegetables and 1-2 portions of fruits a day (she´ll always eat the same, always in the raw form as she won´t eat cooked/sauted vegetables). I´m not saying all parents of autistic children will be so lucky, there are autistic children that have higher degree of food aversion of my daughter so no shame there, just saying that if I managed to get my daughter with probably medium level of food aversions, it should be easy for parents of non autistic children (because it´s not an emotional issue with autistic people, it´s a sensory issue)...
The point about supporting toxic corporations is something I hadn’t thought about before but it’s SPOT ON 👏🏻
People that are actually successful long term with weight loss rarely do so by pouring money into diet culture services. I’ve lost 30 lbs and never once did I buy a service other than a $10 planet fitness membership and a free download of myfitnesspal. But you bet your ass they’ll do the mental gymnastics to justify pouring money into the fast food industry everyday because somehow they’re special and have no other choice. They’re so deep in denial I pity them.
I spend my money on whole foods and not eating out. I only have to feed myself and my husband, but when I cook I make enough food for 10+ people and I freeze the leftovers. I have these meals ready for my lazy days. I usually have two different types of meals in the freezer at a time. My favs are soups and one pot meals because they are the easiest to make in bulk.
It is totally possible. It just takes planning. If you make proper nutrition a priority, you can do it, and for cheap.
My grandma would always give me healthy food when I was a baby to the point where I asked if I could have carrots for my birthday party. I am so thankful to her for teaching me how to eat right and exercise.
I have been struggling with eating healthy. But I live in an area where there is an abudance of healthy food. Even a free food bank that has a ton of healthy FREE food.
Today, I commit to taking a step in the right direction by not eating fast food.
If people think eating healthy is expensive - it is cheaper to grow your food! And good for the environment as well.
I'd like to take the receipt from every family eating fast food in the McDonalds attached to the Walmart and show them what they could have bought in groceries for the same amount a few steps away. It's not cheaper to eat garbage processed food.
The price per calorie ratio is why you should eat healthy. Eating less calories is good. If you can fill up on healthy Whole Foods that’s what you should do.
Yep. The calories on the pre-cooked chicken were less than half of the nugget but had twice the protein and a fraction of the fat and carbs. You could actually eat twice as much chicken and still be under in the calories but higher in nutrition.
I just made home made burgers. Extra lean ground beef $7, pack of buns $3 and condiments and other toppings already had in the fridge. I made 6 burgers for $10. In Canada 1 Big Mac meal costs you just under $15. Meal prepping and getting the most out of your leftovers should really be taught in school.
Yep. I'm in Canada too (Ottawa). I did chicken pita wraps for 6 people for $15 in grocery. That would have $70 in fast food.
@@thebodyhonestyproject Yay I love supporting Canadian creators. ❤️
No one buys food by the cost per calorie they buy it as cost per meal or serving and when you do the math on it that way and realize 99% of families are eating way more calories than need when they get fast food, well you see the lie of fast food being cheaper for what it is. And excuse.
I don’t have kids, just me and my husband. If we get fast food, it’s so expensive now that 2 meals are $20 or more! I try to do a lot of pantry and frozen meals, so my grocery bills each week are $30-$60…. For the whole week and more! Not just a single meal. It’s more an issue of time/energy/priority like you said, not money.
1. if you only judge food, based on price/calorie we would all drink oil for a living
2. It's really hard on some parents to care for their children and to push them into the "just feed them fast food, it's cheaper anyway" narrative feels wrong. You don't have to blame or judge anyone on how they feed their children, but to push them into this direction feels just so wrong.
I believe that there are those that know better and choose to still not change, and there are those that truly don't know better. Where it gets messy is that those that do know better say very loudly that "it's not their fault. healthy food is expensive. there's nothing we can do", and those that actually don't know better, hear this, and believe it. So nobody improves. sad.
That William guy gives me Buffalo Bill vibes. Wouldn't surprise me if he has a well in his basement with some fat woman in it
Lmao at your entry. Straight to the point
I couldn't resist. I said that out loud the first time I saw the TikTok. Most idiotic metric I've ever heard from the FA community, and they say a lot of crazy shit.
Robert Lustig has great content about how ultra-processed food has a very different impact on your body, hormones, and gut health than non-processed foods. So many parents don't know how to cook from scratch themselves these days, so they don't pass down basics to their kids. I still rely on what I learned in an 8th grade home economics class!
Funny you should say that, because they don't teach home-ec anymore (at least where I am). I learned how to make a bunch of things in grades 7&8. Useful skills. When I was single, inability to cook was a deal breaker. It's not "cute". It's embarrassing.
Broccoli is 90 cents for a whole bag where I live. It usually comes with 3 cups. That's one serving of broccoli for .30 cents. Cheaper and more nutritious than a chicken nugget. This guy is blatantly lying. I have been in poverty my whole life. I have no problem getting fresh produce and staying a reasonable weight.
Also, the problem is we eat way too many calories. The goal is to eat a reasonable amount. That concept seems lost on this guy. A kid will have higher energy levels and perform better in all areas of life if they aren't saddled down with a hundred pounds of extra calories that have been stored as fat.
The only times when it's cheaper to eat fast food is if you literally only have a few dollars in your pocket and you have no means of cooking. Because I can spend $12 on groceries and make 4 meals, but I can't spend $3 and make one meal. This to me is a budgeting and prioritization problem.
Completely off topic but Lydia your hair is fabuloussss ❤
13:58 - 14:38 - I VEHEMENTLY AGREE WITH THIS!!
i know systemic change in our already broken food systems is hard, especially towards the poor communities. however, if we wanna change the system regarding society's relationship with food, we still need to internalize that hope in ourselves first and model such behavior to the people around us
this can and has also been applied to different social issues as well
say for example, you want a cleaner environment. even if our systems suck at maintaining and improving our surroundings, we still need to model proper behavior such as throwing trash in the appropriate trash cans, keeping trash to ourselves until we see the nearest trash cans, and just not littering in general
if you dont wanna support fast fashion, you can start with at least start with buying less from fast fashion brands and thrifting more too
many of our social issues are not gonna go away within a heartbeat (god i wish they do tbh). however, that doesn't mean that we cannot and shouldn't enact our agency to do better and tell other people to do better as well. in fact, even if we have better laws and policies for the common good, there are still people who break them and try to bypass them because they have so much money and power and that really sucks
Also, in a sheer food grade perspective fast food is similar to middling dry/wet mixed DOG FOOD.
What are these FA chuckleheads yapping about? Fast food and junk foods are _expensive_ . It is getting more expensive every day. I recently placed an Uber order for just myself and the price was over $20. For that money, I could have purchased a pack of chicken, frozen veggies, and rice for a few nights and prepared all of that in under 1 1/2 hours. FA is the just another way for folks to do whatever they want and not think of the consequences.
I make cheap casseroles all the time. Rice or pasta, frozen veg, protein, can of soup. Not fancy. Cheap and nutritious. And feeds all 6 people that live here.
I'm trying to find a way to say this that isn't really, really rude. I just can't find a displomatic way to phrase it, though.
William Hornby looks like Onision if he became a Twitch femboy instead of trying to be the Joker.
The resemblance is both uncanny and unsettling.
I haven't watched Onision in 15 years. He still around? William does have an unsettling way about him though. I feel like that "persona" he puts on is the real him deep down.
My boy finally got out of the only wanting kid food phase now he just wants to eat what ever I'm eating.
That's great. After age 2 or 3, I think my kids just ate what we were eating. They didn't actually want anything special. They were more curious about what we were eating. Modelling is the most important.
Even if eating healthier were more expensive than eating at fast food, it doesn’t change the fact that it’s harmful. People who don’t have access to clean water still need clean water, inaccessibility doesn’t suddenly make dirty water good to drink. Why would you insist on promoting ‘cheap’ but harmful ways to feed your kids instead of fighting to make the better option more accessible?
They have mistaken "can't" for "won't". It's not that they can't feed their children better. They won't make the changes they need to because they are inconvenient.
Finally someone is saying it!
I HATE that the biggest argument is "well I can't afford fresh organic produce". Well, neither can I. I buy fresh conventional fruit and veg, along with some canned and frozen produce. It's way cheaper than if I bought fast food every day.
Before I kids and when I was pretty poor qnd did not have lots of money for food I lived on rice, canned lentils chickpeas and tomatoes, and frozen veg. Not as high quality as fresh produce but better than fast food and also a fraction of the cost.
Fast forward to when I was pregnant with my second child, I was so sick and nauseous preparing food made me vomit. My older kid lived on oven baked chicken nuggets and steamed vegetables from the freezer section and canned beans on toast for months. Not perfect, but also better than the alternatives.
The two choices shouldn't be fresh organic produce OR processed junk food. There is some middle ground.
The land of FA is the land of extremes. William said that the alternate was to not feed your kids, lol. There is a middle ground. I'm not perfect every day. I served my kids mac & cheese the other night without adding a side veg. But I'm pretty good most days. What they eat fuels them for school and sports. It helps them concentrate and perform. That is ALL on me. I'm the mom. Like it or not, my responsibility. I don't need to be perfect all the time, but I do need to give an honest effort.
OMG, that guy is a MONSTER
I literally saved money by switching to eating whole foods because snack and preprocessed foods are EXPENSIVE.
You can buy 50 pounds of dried beans for $40 at Sam's Club. $40 might get you two or three family meals from McDonald's, but there are 648 servings in that bag of beans. Woe to our generation, for we are financially illiterate.
Apparently William hasn’t heard of beans and rice. Also if money is really the issue, food stamps doesn’t cover McDonalds but it does cover food at the grocery store.
I can literally spend $15 at Walmart and eat for a week. This is BS.
Thank you so much. We need voices like yours
Thank-you and thanks for watching!
My family was hit hard during ‘09, sometimes my parents didn’t eat (I didn’t even realize we were poor because my mom knew how to cook with 0 ingredients)… not once did I get McDonald’s in that time… but I love spaghetti with olive oil and garlic… I never went hungry so fast food is cheaper is such bs, grains potatoes and pasta’s are filling even if you can’t make an entire meal out of it…
When I was little, my mom didn’t eat dinner. And we made 1pound of ground meat stretch to feed my dad and two kids for two dinners. It’s possible. It’s not easy. But it’s possible. And we’re better off for it.
Ah this creepy man again! The one who doesn’t blink the eyes! The face of serial killer! Is he gaining weight? Good for him tho, that’s what I called solidarity 😄
lol. I think so. He drank the Kool-aid ... or should I say milkshake.
The maximum amount of food stamps for a family of four in the state that I live is 835 dollars. Therefore, poor people have that much money to buy healthy food before other income. Fast food places don't take food stamps. I get about 250 dollars a month of food stamps. I can buy a lot of healthy food with that.
No one eats a diet of broccoli. We eat a variety of food. I eat a lot of fresh vegetables. Still, even a short, mature woman like myself would starve on a diet of only low calorie density vegetables. No one can get enough calories from eating only broccoli. It's a fake argument.
It was the only argument that he could make that he could "win". Any loose metric that would tell him he's right. It's sad.
I grew up pretty healthy, and I feed my children healthy. But I've also been down to my last literal dollar cents when I was in my 20s living from paycheck to paycheck while in school and, while I would have preferred something healthy , all I could afford was something of the dollar menu. This video IS super classist, because sometimes fast food IS cheaper and kids need to eat. I can totally see a parent in the same situation as I was in where, they're down to their last few dollars and have several kids to eat. Show me where you can get RICE and Chicken for $5. One or the other and chances are everyone is still going to be hungry.
I'm sorry for the situation that you were in. In the environment I live in (Canada), you can totally eat healthy for cheaper than fast food. Full stop. local walmart has pre-cooked chicken for $7. And, you can get minute rice for $3. Add a bag of frozen veg for another $3 and you have spent $13 on a dinner for 4. More nutritious, cheaper, and literally takes 5 min to make. I make casseroles on the regular for $20 or less in ingredients that feed my family of 6. I am sure there are situations where it isn't as easy. But I also feel strongly that many ppl live in cities like mine where they CAN make these choices and choose not to. How many obese families are there in the McDonald's attached to the Walmart I spoke of right now eating their meals instead of using the groceries a few steps a way for less? For many, it's a choice.
Bang on as usual, it's always about choices...
Thank-you. According to William the choice is eat fast food or starve, smh
@@thebodyhonestyproject Even if the options are poor, the amount you actually consume is still under your control. Every clip I see from him gives me serious "feeder" vibes and he makes everything a clearly false dichotomy.
This always provides the perfect example of making straw man arguments.
Yes, arguing points nobody ever made. Yes William, the cost per calorie of a chicken nugget is "lower" than broccoli ... that's not a good thing.
Cutting up a couple chicken breasts and dumping them in the water with a frozen veggie mix with some spices will last your whole family of 3-4 people for two dinners and will cost about the same as a fast food meal for one person. Oh, and it will take you 15 minutes to cook tops - much faster than a trip to a fast food place + the gas it takes to get there. You can stir fry it, add some whole grain pasta or rice, the variations are endless. Everybody has the time, everybody has the money, but not everyone has the guts to admit they're just lazy.
You have the time if you make it a priority. As you said, it’s budgeting 15 min here and there. Which is less time than going to the local fast food place.
Absolutely agree with every points in here. Healthy food isn't more expensive, if that's the case then many lower class in Asian countries will be fat, but that's not the case. A nurtured culture to eat vegetable as side dish will benefits in the long term.
Also parenting is so hard and that's why if you're truly not ready, financially or emotionally, than you should not even think about having a children.
I remember seeing a video a little while ago about a woman that was saying that if she knew what she knew now, she wouldn't have become a mother. And ppl were all over her, like "how can you say that!". But I agreed with her. She was doing all the right things. And it's hard. It doesn't mean that you don't love your children. Because you do. But when you love your children and take responsibility for them, you need to do all the things. And that takes work.
I have been on a stuffed potato kick this month. Microwave a potato and frozen broccoli and a can of sardines, a few green onions. it literally takes me 10 minutes to prepare. a quick, balanced and filling meal for $2.60 dollar for the entire meal.
Easy. Nutritious. Cheap.
People have to many excuses. Just suck it up and doing it right and responsible. Your body is your temple.
It's easier to complain than it is to change
William lookin’ pretty chunky these days 🤣
Must be the "intuitive bingeing". I mean eating ... no I don't. I mean bingeing.
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I know I'm necrocommenting, but the metric of "chimken numget has more calorie than strawberry" is the biggest logical fallacy. An at home chicken nugget meal is and will always be both healthier and cheaper than a fast food chicken nugget meal. Calories are from better sources, and admittedly still lower due to lack of additives and sodium.
If my 12 year old presented that logic at school, he’d fail Grade 7 health class. It’s ridiculous. Can’t believe ppl believe this nonsense.
Lentils, onions, big bunches of carrots, beans, oatmeal… yes, some of these things take time and effort to prepare. But I would much rather eat a nice bowl of whole healthy foods than McDonald’s chemical-laden cruelty-full poisonous garbage.