The truth about ATR72 and ATR42 revealed by Pilot Blog
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2020
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Here I go with the detailed review of ATR42/72 Pros and Cons. ATR is one of the most produced commercial turboprop airplanes in the world. I was flying it for 7 years and ATR was my first airplane to be employed as first officer. After 3 years of flying I became a Captain and later ATR42/72TRI. However I had to change the airline and I went to fly in Garuda Indonesia.
Now I am Boeing737 pilot but still have good and warm memory about ATR times. I am willing to share my experience with you guys, telling the truth about the ATR, about it's good sides and disadvantages. There is no perfect airplane flying around, because every airplane has it own specific.
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Hello Guys! My name is Denys, and I am Boeing 737 Captain. Before I used to fly ATR 42/72.
I am making the videos on this Pilot Blog channel to encourage people all around the world to join our aviation community.
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Simple, short, precise, smart presentation of ATR 42/72 pros and cons, Well done Captain Denys my friend.
Many thanks for your warm comment!
Probably the only and perfectly explained video about ATR I found on RUclips.
I didn't even try to make it interesting...Still wounder why you like it😂 Anyway, you are Awesome!
Has visto el canal Skyships Eng con el vídeo ATR 42/72 turboprop european? También está Skyships en español.
I fly the ATR, absolute beauty to fly manually! It is notoriously known for not flying well in icing conditions but other than it is an amazing plane to fly
Hi! I used to fly it in severe icing. Nothing special. Just need to follow some limits and everything will be fine.
@@PilotBlogDenysking air ❤beach craft
So why is Finnair operating ATR72-500 in winter in their own country?
Capt. please keep coming with the ATR videos. They are very helpful. I am a Type-Rated pilot on 72-600 with zero hours and I have my sim check on the 27th of this month with the national carrier of India your knowledge is highly appreciated.
Hello, my friend! Now I have some problems filming about the ATR, because I was flying it more than 3 year ago. Now I am Boeing pilot. I will film what I can. But I don't have access to airplane itself anymore.
Wish you good luck with your training. Safe flights!
The most crystal clear explanation of ATR planes . Awesome 👏 keep it up 👍!!!
Love the in-depth technicalities.
Thank you!
Ikr me, my wife and our son love that about his videos. 😀
Wow ... Very Well Explained. Was waiting for a video like this for a long time.
Thanks a lot 😊
Sir. Very well laid out. You have touched almost all the points.
Perfect video to get ready for the MSFS ATR. Looking forward to this beauty when I finish work tomorrow!
I am here because Flight Simulator released the 42/72-600 and it's beautiful.
Great and very honest video about the ATR. I enjoyed watching this!
Very intelligent man. He gave such a simple but comprehensive explanation of the airplane.
I wish more RUclips presenters had his skills. So many of them think they are the story.
Great video.
Wow, thanks!
Great channel captain! ATR72-500 was the first airplane I ever flew on, so much memories
Yeah that plane is good one! Espesially for start.
ATR72-600 was the first one I flew on
It was either an Air Dolomiti ATR 42-320 ATR 42-500 or an ATR 72-212A(500). I cant remember I was a baby
Caravelle for me.
Great job Captain! Well organized and all information was relevant. Happy Flying!
Much appreciated!
very detailed and thorough video! hope to fly these someday soon!
ATR (72-212) was my first “Type” rating. I loved it.
Beach craft, ❤king air
Thanks for the video!!
Nice video, Captain! Thank for this interesting blogs about aviation and your life in aviation!
Glad you enjoyed it!
The most fantastic video. I was looking into the atr
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice video, doing my ATR72-600 type rating in April, finding your videos very informative
Wish you luck, you'll find that airplane very nice to fly! Thanks for your comment!
Amasing :D awesome videos and you really can explain!! looking forward for the next 72-600 videos, thank you very much, captain!!
Thank you for supporting me!
Love this video, Very understandable 🏅
Thank you for your support 👍
I totally enjoyed this! Thanks for the info!
So glad!
This is best channel to know about aircraft
Thank you captain
Very nice channel, as an aircraft maintenance engineer I like it very much!
Thanks for this lecture!
Hello! I'm happy you didn't have A-Icing issues. I flew the 72-212/212A and experienced the same horror that AE4184 experienced with the aileron hinge point reversal. Luckily I lived, albeit barely. I will say that once I stepped off that aircraft on my last trip, I vowed never to get back on an ATR whether it be as flight crew or passenger. We didn't have the glass cockpit, or even GPS at the time. I hope as technology increased, so did safety. I have a sour spot in my heart for this aircraft, but I'm happy that they, apparently, got better. BTW a search of crash history for these aircraft yields a disproportionate amount of ice related accidents than does other aircraft.
Don’t worry about the deicing issue I’ve heard it’s fixed for newer models. But yeah you probably should be careful of older ATR’s as a passenger. For freight it’s not really an issue because they could take it more slowly. A newer models like the 600 are fixed and I think also the 500.
Hi, can you explain me how you got your aileron reversal ? Airspeed, altitude, flaps setting and propeller pitch RPM ? I flew the first ATR42 in Quebec ( when the atr crashed in Ontario Canada) holding in icing with flap extended. I have 4600 hours on it. I can tell you that as long as the ATR limitations where adhered to, all was more then fine.
I have 1 occasion in my 6 years on the machine where we accumulated severe icing at 12000ft, poped out of the clouds in clear sky and the entire aircraft was shaking du to the ice accumulations on the 4 blades propeller. So much that the cabine crew came to see use. I now have 22000 h captain on B777, A310, and L-1011 and do not trust me but you may believe my words on it.
Ich kann nicht begreifen dass man die Flügel nicht heizen kann wie auch bei den grösseren Flugzeuge. Vereisung ist da schlimmste was es gibt und gefährlich, dass man das Eis zuerst anfrieren lassen muss und dann erst absprengen kann. Ein Defizit in der jetzigen technologischen Welt. Crash in der Nähe Como auch eine ATR Vereisung. Stall
Awesome video.
Very good explanation. Thanks a lot captain.
Hi, great video! The VNAV button became operative with the STD 2 software and has become my best friend. I fly in Thailand, and we do a lot of LNAV/VNAV approaches here.
Cool! When I was flying ATR72-600 in Garuda-Indonesia it wasn't even installed on FGCP panel. Thanks for your comment!👍
It's actually an optional extra. Not even all STD 2s or STD 3s have it.
Great video. I can see that you would be a good instructor. Nice clear explanation
good job capt very well done on the atr
Well-explained Captain! Thanks
Thanks for watching
Brilliant video! Thank you very much
Glad you liked it!
Well explained I like your content especially since I'm planning to start a airline thank you for the info
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent video thank you! Subbed!
Thanks for the sub! You are now officially awesome guy!
great video captain 👍🏽
Thank you! Thanks for watching me.
Great video and explanation
Glad you liked it!
Wow.. stumbled on this video today 😅.
Very informative, will look for another video in this channel.
Selamat sore from Bali 😊.
Brilliant
I like your explanation style with cray and black board, simply because it is so effetive
Thank you! I really apreciate it!
fantastic video
Dear friend. Many thanks for this great video and your honest opinions. I am really impressed the way you explain. Many thanks for contribution to Aviation world
So nice of you, Mehmet. Thanks for watching!
I like the idea of controls without hydraulics. I drive an old BMW sports car and it may steer a little harder, and it has a manual transmission but it's great to feel in your hands what you are doing like you said with the controls on the ATR. I always like your videos. Thank you.
Parallel parking?
It's a snap. I'm old, I learned young. We old folks are pretty talented.
Hello there, your 1000th subscriber here.
Im an engineer working on A320, B737NG and ATR72-500 & 600, though i work on ATR for only 5 years now, one thing i notice was the DU is phisically unreliable, it happens to be faulty easily (either display F or totally blank), compared to the DU of B737NG & A320 which which rarely had the same issue.
Suspect the 600 DU was having a cooling issue (we prevent this by cleaning the cooling air inlet holes every somehundred FH ) or just basically heat sensitive itself, since ATR avionic cooling system was also less effective (it only had one extract fan, compared to B737 two extract & two blowing fan), not to mention the aircond itself which is not too effective especially with OAT above 30°C and you only had the hotel mode for both packs.
So maybe its only a problem here on equatorial climate though, overall still a reliable machine to work with.
Hi! You are great! Thanks for subscribing to my channel! I always recpect engineers. They do their best to keep airplanes fit to fly! I had issues with ATR DUs. They overheat so I had to reduce the brightness, but I had never seen the totally blank DU. Yes, I think B737 DU is better... But on ATR's DUs you have more information. Thanks again! You are awesome!👍
Agree, information given on ATR DUs was a top notch, i personally like how the electronic checklist automatically cycle the MFD to show the respective system page. And also the MISC page which very usefull on Engine Ground Run-Up, all of which you won't find even on A320.
What make ATR DUs different though, on B737 & A320 the DUs was only served as "Display". On ATR its also part of the Integrated System along with CACs, FMS & RMS. Hence, on A320 & B737 after we finished replacing the DU, then the job was done. But on ATR theres an additional requirements to install the Operating System Software followed by AVS Config Software which is unique to each A/C MSN. Otherwise you'll have that annoying "BAD CONFIG" msg.
Your channel is awesome, keep up the great content.
Terima Kasih.
Great channel found it very recently, loving your videos already especially detailed technical explanations and sharing your professional experience. As a student pilot, your videos keeps me motivated studying ATPL even during hard times! Keep doing great content, Captain.
Welcome aboard! You are awesome!
Your Yaw DamFer has got me in tears 😄😄
Very good explain👌☺️
Thanks a lot 😊
Excellent video!
Thanks, mate!
very well done!
Good info.
I see an ATR 72 has gone down in in Pokhara today
Thanks Mate!!
You're welcome!
ATRs from the way i see it, its not a totally bad plane, but its also obvious to see there are lots of cost cutting measures in it. Another thing worth mentioning is the cargo compartment in ATRs are strapped in with netting, left and wight of the walkway ! Vs Fokker 50 it was solid door. On multiple ocasions our cockpit door was blocked by loosened netting. That itself is a safety hazard.
I have flown many times on ATR 72 , its stable, comfortable and I like its STOL capability ! In less than 20 sec it takes off already.
OK correction..It takes off in after around 25-30 sec
Thanks for this Vedio. Please make vedio on different type of ATR 72 600 approaches..
Okay sure
Great video
Thanks, Victor...
I’ve flown King Air 200 and 250, Fokker 50 and Boeing 737-7 and 737-8. I must admit that I enjoyed turboprop most. The F-50 was a very nice and reliable a/c!
On the Boeing we quite often did 25-30 minutes turnarounds😅
Very nice!
Nice job
Thanks Cap
Beautiful beautiful aircraft ATR
Thank you! Very interesting. Flying in Indonesia must have been beautiful. Definitely a place I want to visit. What island would you say is most beautiful? I know you fly the 737 now, what part of the world are you flying in?
Hi there! I work for UIA in Ukraine. Thanks for your comment.
Gracias, muy buen análisis. Bravo. “Spasiva “ Jajjjjjj
Thanks)))
ATR-42s and 72s are being used in Philippines. Usually around 200 mile routes
Hi! Must tell honestly, I really enjoy watching every of your videos and reading posts on Instagram 😉. I personally come from Ukraine too and since 2016 I've became an aviation lover 😅. And I can only confirm the words about simple 737NG FCOM (I've understood it only while having a big quantity of enthusiasm and veeery basic aviation knowledge (I was 14 😅)). Nowadays I try to do all procedures, which are possible in flight simulator and will finish school this year.. stop. I have a bit forgotten what I was going to write at first 😂😂. All in all, I can see that you are very pleasured with your job. And it's the main factor in aviation, I think. You have an amazing facility to explain difficult things at simple language.
And...
I wish you smooth landings, happy passengers and good luck ✊🏻
PS: I'm waiting for similar videos about my favorite 737 and new posts about the life of airline pilots of the best airline of Ukraine, UIA ❤😉. Will try to write comments more often 😂😂😂
Hi! Vlad. It is very kind of you to write that comment. Thank you very much for supporting me here and on Instagram. I don't have many subscribers so far but I enjoy communication with our small family 😊. Of course I will make the video about the Boeing737 in future. Thanks again!
Very, very nice!
Thanks for the vid! As a big regional aviation enthusiast I'm really looking forward to Windrose starting ATR operation in Ukraine :D
Yeah, I hope they will get those planes. Thanks for the comment!
Awesome 👍
Thanks 🤗
Hello Captain, great video about ATR. One question , I noticed that during climbing after take off the power will sligtly reduced and the climb angle will become less steeper, does pilot manually derated the throttle or there is some sort automatic function like 737 has to adjusting the throttle from TOGA to Climb mode?
Hello, Azim! Thanks for your question. On ATR thrust levers stay at fixed position until descent. Pilot manually selects the Electronic Engine Control (EEC) mode of operation. Takeoff, Climb, Cruise... So there is a selector for that...
@@PilotBlogDenys Basically you wont need to keep your hand on the throttle lever unlike Cessnas?
Very interesting video. Do you have any possible theory on what may have happened to Yeti Airlines 9N-ANC. I suspect it could be in relation to the autofeather engaging 100% on engine one. What are your thoughts?
This was the first and only airliner I flew and I loved it. We had, if I recall about 200 ATR's at some point. To me, the 42 was very docile and very forgiving. The 72-212A Now called 500, would talk back to me complaining and then did what I told it to do. The early ATR72's were the ATR72-200 series. They only had 2400HP, god they were terrible. They were eventually upgraded to the 2700HP & new props among a few other changes. Then the remainder was delivered that way. The 72's were very squirely in a strong crosswind. Oh and god they god hot as heck in the summer on the ground.
I was sad when we got rid of them all. I was hoping we were going to get the 600 series, but it did not happen. I know Jets are the Now and the Future, but I think they might return. Especially with that new advanced ATR42s, but the USA does not like the TurboProps, but there are a fan base for them and I am one of them.
Wow! Great comment! Thanks Robert! 600 version is great! They made a great step with that airplane regarding cockpit operation... Thanks again!
@@PilotBlogDenys Thank you. The video was well done.
I flew Atr42 and 72 -500 and -600 series and now im on trainning for Boeing 737 ng/max, in mexico. Just like you.
How did you feel the transition from atr to boeing?
유익하네요
Thank you Sir
Same) thanks for your comment!
I can add a con for the ATR
I am 187cm tall and that means the ceiling of the ATR 72-500 touches my head. I also had to duck down just to exit the aircraft because I banged my head on the fuselage of the ATR. However, the service and efficiency of this aircraft is what makes me happy flying it.
Great that you fly that machine. I miss it sometimes... I am 188cm, so same problem 😅
@@PilotBlogDenys I fly it as a passenger and not a pilot just for info. Hope to be a 737 Captain as you soon. Also, is it possible for hotel mode to be engaged on ENG 1?
@@MalaysianAviator737-8 Oh, I see. There are some rare modifications with propeller brakes on both engines.
@@PilotBlogDenys I see, I guess that explains why the back of a Fireflyz ATR 72-500 is cooler compared to the Malindo Air ATR72-600. My face literally burnt while we boarded. Thank you
@@MalaysianAviator737-8 Yes, the air-condition system is quite bad on ATRs during the Hotel Mode operation.
We do a ground turn around in 20 minutes in India.❤️
Indigo??
This my first time watching your channel. I'm a total av geek. This explanation of everything is so clear that it's embedded in my JP6 brain!
As a french man it is interesting to have the ATR aircraft family evaluated by a Russian pilot, the Russian and Urainian nation itselves having brought forth such marvelleous turboprops as the Antonov AN-70
✈👍
Hello, great video as always. I am currently in the middle of finishing my ATR type rating. One thing that I have is the starting hotel mode with the battery. Obviously we need a sufficient amount of voltage from the battery to start the No. 2 engine in hotel mode. What is the required voltage for it, because I can’t find it specifically in the FCOM.
As far as I know it won't start with less than 19,5v. Some technician told me about it. Maybe it is in tech manual or something. Anyway I hadn't have cases with start problems. Thank you for supporting!
It is stated in FCOM, i can't recall the pages precisely. But it is in the electrical desc part.
Battery voltage range under load: 23-28V. But please correct me if I'm wrong.
Later models do have VNAV and are fully capable of RNAV approaches to LPV minima. I think version 2 of the flight guidance system added that. I tried, but failed, to find when it was released. Any older models could be upgraded to include it, if the airline cared to do so.
Good
Since late 2021 Engines have since been upgraded to the new PW127XT powerplants with 20% lower maintenance cost and 3% lower fuel consumption than the predecessor PW127M powerplant
Really awesome! I recently read that the propeller brake on the right engine provides power like an APU does, and any idea why it is called Hotel Mode?
Good question! It will provide you with lights and cool or warm air like in Hotel room)))
Its operating time is short and the exhaust prevents refueling and cargo loading at the starboard side. Also theres temperature issues if run for extended periods
Its called Hotel mode because when maritime cruise ships were at anchor they used a brake on their turbines to run the generators for passengers needs.Aviation imports a lot of terms from the maritime industry. @Pilot Blog I hate the avionics on the 500 series (especially the radar)hopefully i will get a chance on 600 one day
Hi Denys. I have a question about Hotel-Mode on the ATR. For your operations, how often and and how long would you use it for? If no ground power was available, would you do your cockpit prep using battery power only, or would you have to start Eng. 2 in H. for the whole time? Thanks and please keep uploading. Hopefully your new employer will be supportive of your videos.
Hi! Thanks for your comment! For cockpit preparation you need 28v ground power or you may start eng 2 in hotel mode. With just battery power you would be unable to prepare the airplane, since ony critical equipment is supplied by battery power.
It seems like my new company supports my social media activity. I am not sure about the cockpit videos, but I had the support for this blog.
@@PilotBlogDenys Thanks for the reply. I'm glad to hear they're supportive. Smooth Landings Captain.
Why are ATRs preferred over Dash variants in the arctic regions such as Northern Canada and Russia?
I am jet pilot I am a first officer I flown on a320/1 and now I fly 330 /340 I have total 8000 hrs .but I want to fly atr or any turboprop but after this video I think I have to think a lot .it is very after flying 15 years on jet to fly turboprop. Thanks for the video
Здравствуйте. В каком году работали в ЮТэйр? Я помню у нас проходили стажировку ребята из Ютэйр- Украина.
Underpowered with Icing issues , not a good combination in winter
13:28, No side windows. We recently lost pilots of Precision air in our country due to this. The plane landed in water along the shores of lake victoria in Tanzania. Pilots were alive but locked in the cockpit, with sealed windows. Some fishermen saw the pilots asking for help to be saved, and when a boy wanted to break the windshield with a large hammer, some official on a megaphone stopped the fisherman from breaking the windshield. eventually, the pilots drowned.
Are the officials fucking stupid?
How is the flaring on the Atr 72? I saw they approach at a flat angle and then just over the runway at around 10 feet they quickly pull the yoke and hold a small pitch till the wheels touch.
You have a negative pitch angle on approach unlike on A320 and B737. So every time you need to pull that thing up. The flare altitude is usually 20 feet.
U the best
Do you need a lot of muscle power to fly the atr? Is it like the old jets like 707 where it's hard to control the air raft where the controls require a weight of 30-40 kgs on the yoke to turn the aircraft
No, it is very easy to control. Small airplane)
ATR system is awesome 🙏🏻🇱🇰
write something about hot weather operations of atr72, especially about decreasing of maximum payload in hot weather
Hm. The was no case for me... But I haven't flown it in very hot weather.
But if ther's an ATR-42-320 and 72-600 avail for Flight sim would you only the the -600 ? Like the -320 though old is probably also much less complex A/C to learn / manage as pilot is it not ?
Regards
Jean-François
Curious to why not the slightly more powerful versions of the PW127 have ever been considered? Wouldn’t maybe 200-300 of more horse power provide a small noticeable difference in Take-off and climb performance + slightly higher cruise speed? Agree with previous comments; very comprehensive video of the ATR. Thanks!
Maybe they wanted to reduce the fuel consumption as much as possible.
@@PilotBlogDenys thanks for your answer.
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Красавчик.Удачи!
Спасибо!
Thank you Sir for the video
what is the max fuel you can take with ZFW of 21000 ?
Thank you
Max ZFW !on ATR is 20800. It’s Limitation’s
how much would the ATR 42 s cost? do you know where i could buy one new or used? i want to start a cargo company in Africa with the ATR 🙏
Add the tag to easy RUclips viewer to watch and find your video captain...
Will do that, thanks for advice.!
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