I realize I accidentally cheated when I attacked with Longirsu in G1 after using it's effect, but I simply target the Gizmek instead to hit over, and at that point it's just a LP difference.
It would be a really good idea and totally worth the joke that when we get to 2020 they do an episode on the start of either prog S1 or history itself. Such an important moment in the Yu-Gi-Oh space
I always thought TOSS was up until the January banlist that completely killed every TOSS deck. Yeah there were other decks that were viable around that period, but it was also nicknamed the eternal format because the top decks stuck around for well over a year and none of the new archetypes from the core sets did anything to shake up the meta and all that changed was the addition of new extra deck staples instead.
Game 2 was funny to watch. Joseph spends his time making a pretty solid board and meanwhile we're just staring at evenly + pankratops in Alex's hand. Had Joseph kept the fossil dyna instead of the Saryuja he may have had a chance. Alex would have been in a position where he had to draw harp horror or dark grepher to out it, or widow anchor/imperm.
I think that depends how you look at it. The actual Toss where there was balance between the T O S and S ended much earlier, but the time period during which all of these were playable and topping didnt and youd be right. However, Orcust was alost tier 0 during that time I believe, so it wasnt the balanced nostalgic forat people like to imagine so thats why they say it "ended"
@@nbassasin8092 I don't remember the 4 decks ever really being balanced though. Pre tins and july ban list salad and thunder were pretty clearly a step ahead of orcust and striker and post tins that swaps as the promos, mostly nib and drnm, made orcust and striker better than thunder and salad.
Really hope to see the Hydralander/BA/Lv3 pile deck return in History of Jank. There were a couple cool builds that didnt utilize Block Dragon and instead could use Eclipse Wyvern and Snow to extend even further with cards like Giant Rex and DAD.
0:52 MBT's Deck: Burning Abyss & Rank 3 Turbo stuff (ft. Block Dragon & Orbital Hydralander) 5:59 Cimooo's Deck: Orcust Sky Striker 11:46 Game 1 23:06 Game 2 28:30 are you sure you wanna leave that in the main monster zone? 31:00 Game 3
I'll never forget one of my most frustrating games againt block ba from around this time. I was playing Nekroz at the time. First round of the tournament I played against block ba. I got blown out by Fossil Dyna game one. Game two I did the same thing to him with vanity ruler and blew him out. Game 3 was a lot closer. We both bricked a little bit, and had a slower game. He ended up getting me down to like 600 life points or something. But a top deck Trish started to come back. I was then able to establish Trish, Unicorn and Vanity fiend while putting him on top deck mode. Got him down to about 2000 life points with that field, every turn him just setting a monster because he can't do anything to out the fiend. It's his turn and he's watching the clock. He takes a second to think and ends up just setting a monster and passing. I go draw and go into Main. Before I can say battle, time is called. We have to finish the main phase and he wins the game with like 2000 life points to my 600. He even made a comment saying that I should have won that game because of my board state. Proceeds to say that oh well, time rules I have higher life points. I win. Even though he openly admitted that he should have lost... Later found out he went on to take fourth place at the event. I bubbled out. One of the most frustrating experiences ever
I had something very similar but in reverse I was playing sekkas ba and people at my locals were dicks to me all the time. We go into game 3 I combo it's his turn amd I Beatrice send rhino war then he got really mad cause there was about 1 min left and he said my Beatrice was stalling so I thought real long on the rhino and with 2 seconds left I barbar his ass for game. Then I opened a ulti outta my ots packs and the kid raged so hard he didn't show up for 6 months. He always thought it was funny to shit on me cause I had a kid and not the most money to play meanwhile he had all max rarity like 5 decks. He cried it was a cheesy win people can be weird though like I lost a locals cause someone argued I have to declare BLS double attack effect prior to going to battle phase. And nobody can argue that they were weird if I ever played in the 1-2 placing games they would always play for placing but if it was their friend (and this happened many times they would split first) and our shop would just give them both like 6 ots packs shit like that
I remember playing that B.A. deck at my last regional I went to in my state, it was years since my last B.A. match and my opponent got pissed I had him say what his plays were. I just remember during g1 he just constantly summoned not saying what effects were what and me being confused, g2 I had him slow down and state what was happening and he got irritated that he had to say his plays. I also remembering I Nibbed him and he tried adding the monsters that were just used for a link summon on to the tokens atk/def.
the legacy of "why did they give the effect of the "World Legacy Awakens" trap to quick link to an easy to summon generic link 2 monster that can be used everywhere with no drawbacks, but, in fact, only positive effects (litterally effect destruction protection)" 🗿
toss was actually the era when I first started examining yugioh with a deeper lens. I was entering online tournaments, sure I wasn't playing anything competitive, but I was still was playing against real decks. I was playing when vfd was still legal. I'm a young duelist, but I consider myself a pretty experienced one.
Wait, Sekka's Light is STILL at 1, despite being incompatible with ANY other consistency Spell? They must be terrified of the Genex Ally Birdman FTK loop that no one in their right mind would rely on even when Genex gets their wacky new Link-1. Sky Striker Orcust has WAY better options to work with now(and in the near future), the problem is Harp Horror is still banned. Oh well. Also still mad that the TCG basically missed out entirely on trying out Orcust Tearlaments before most of their good monsters got limited or banned, turning it into a bland Fusion Soup.
I tried orcust tear a bit, the orcust bricks kinda made a lot of tear hands unplayable and milling orcust s/t mid combo feels awful since there isn't a good way to recover them.
Funnily enough, Sekka got limited because of another monster mash deck that abused block dragon, Sekka Adamancipator But yeah it really doesn't need to be limited, there hasn't been a good deck that could meaningfully take advantage of it since 2020. orcust tear is unbelievable cope
TOSS technically continues until the Janurary 2020 banlist. With that being said, this definitely represented the tail end of the format. While Sky Striker Orcust was a dominant deck at this time, it's neat to reflect on what decks became playable at this time with I:P. Between this point in the format or the Azathot combo period, the "black sheep" of the TOSS moniker is up to interpretation. Loved this era of the game and I hope to see the format grow like Edison and other retro formats!
lowkey im on the fence saying ip should be banned over the generic links she goes to, like having to make sp on your turn means sp is much better going 2nd than going 1st
Yeah, MBT wasn't winning against Sky Striker Orcust. SS Orcust was the deck that killed TOSS format. Not long after it's dominance Konami banned everything that made the top decks competitive
What are all the instances that two bedt decks merge together. I could think of True Draco Zoo, this one, and Tear Spright (before Ishizu made Tear 0 format).
This is shockingly close to no longer being "the history of yugioh." This is close to being just "yugioh." WE ARE STILL PLAYING IP MASQUERENA. RIGHT NOW. Having said that, does this series not just abruptly end after...like, kashtira format? How do you update this? Just play a format behind forever? Ain't no way. And it's a shame
When the rest of the deck is staples or alternate starters to get into the main combo line, it seems reasonable to name the deck after the main combo line. But I agree that it is ironic to some degree if your deck's name comes from 15-20% of its contents, lol
Because Adamancipator gets released and completely warps the game around it, being able to extend like crazy with it regularly ending on at least 5 negates backed by Block Dragon's protection effect.
@@LordBeau I firmly believe they would at least come back to tiered status in MD if BD and their archetype-specific hits were lifted. Depends on the metagame, but the deck could build extremely strong boards, had a great grind game, and was super consistent. There are very few decks currently popular that can say the same, they usually only have two out of three. I think only some of the current Branded brews can say the same, but even that deck needs to have creative brews to get over the "Branded Fusion gets Ashed 90% of your games" problem.
@@drewbabe adamancipators cannot go second and BD is not really helping that. MD is a different format and also has slightly different hits (for example, it has the prank kids engine, which is unironically better than halq a lot of the time)
just for sanity sake, would it be possible to put the time period down for every format in description or in the title. This would be a nice quality of life easy addition. Also I love your content I watch maybe 85-90% of your uploads
Did Cimo actually have to Crescendo the Dante g1? It was in the imperm column. Or does Imperm only negates S/T in that column when it negates on field?
That's incorrect he doesn't need to be in the EMZ to be untargetable he just needs to be link summoned which can be done in the main monster zone as long as a link in the EMZ is pointing to that particular zone in the main.
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I realize I accidentally cheated when I attacked with Longirsu in G1 after using it's effect, but I simply target the Gizmek instead to hit over, and at that point it's just a LP difference.
Oh Cimo there’s always a “but” to your cheating
He should use a however instead
Damn, it’s almost like it could’ve been avoided if you just READ YOUR CARDS!!!
We're not here for the rules
Wasn’t MBT cheat last episode? It’s a common thing at this point.
It would be a really good idea and totally worth the joke that when we get to 2020 they do an episode on the start of either prog S1 or history itself. Such an important moment in the Yu-Gi-Oh space
Alex really just drew the three most cracked hands imaginable huh
Full combo + multiple non-engine every single game
I always thought TOSS was up until the January banlist that completely killed every TOSS deck. Yeah there were other decks that were viable around that period, but it was also nicknamed the eternal format because the top decks stuck around for well over a year and none of the new archetypes from the core sets did anything to shake up the meta and all that changed was the addition of new extra deck staples instead.
It was. Striker Orcust was almost tier 0 at YCS Sydney in January
Game 2 was funny to watch. Joseph spends his time making a pretty solid board and meanwhile we're just staring at evenly + pankratops in Alex's hand. Had Joseph kept the fossil dyna instead of the Saryuja he may have had a chance. Alex would have been in a position where he had to draw harp horror or dark grepher to out it, or widow anchor/imperm.
"Why the BA No Die" - Farfa
TOSS didn't end until the Jan. '20 banlist
That's how I see it as well
There's a reason it was called "The Eternal Format" at the time.
I think that depends how you look at it. The actual Toss where there was balance between the T O S and S ended much earlier, but the time period during which all of these were playable and topping didnt and youd be right. However, Orcust was alost tier 0 during that time I believe, so it wasnt the balanced nostalgic forat people like to imagine so thats why they say it "ended"
@@nbassasin8092 I don't remember the 4 decks ever really being balanced though. Pre tins and july ban list salad and thunder were pretty clearly a step ahead of orcust and striker and post tins that swaps as the promos, mostly nib and drnm, made orcust and striker better than thunder and salad.
Really hope to see the Hydralander/BA/Lv3 pile deck return in History of Jank. There were a couple cool builds that didnt utilize Block Dragon and instead could use Eclipse Wyvern and Snow to extend even further with cards like Giant Rex and DAD.
Man that deck was fun. I still have hydralander from that and still have yet to find a way to abuse it
That deck sounds better than fucking Magibullets
When was wyvern banned exactly? I thought it was gone already
@@shen.daniel I wanna say some time in 2019
That’s a 2018 deck, which I think they might have covered (not sure). Snow was banned early 2019 and wyvern in April.
I pulled IP in my pre-release packs. What a great card
I did the same with S:P in AGOV. I was STOKED
For the first time, I feel, I can say I was there. I remember when this set was realesed and at that time I was getting more into Ygo, in general.
0:52 MBT's Deck: Burning Abyss & Rank 3 Turbo stuff (ft. Block Dragon & Orbital Hydralander)
5:59 Cimooo's Deck: Orcust Sky Striker
11:46 Game 1
23:06 Game 2 28:30 are you sure you wanna leave that in the main monster zone?
31:00 Game 3
In my opinion TOSS format peaked right before the july banlist.
Absolutely agree!
It peaked in the September banlist. tbh
Too much toxic combo before. Striker Orcust is strong, but it's a beatable matchup for sure.
At 7:30 Cimo is wrong: you CANNOT Galatea with drones since drones token isn't an effect monster.
Luckily the mistake never happened during the duels.
Imo toss lasted till the January 2020 list and the day, hard, colossus, stalio and engage all got the hammer.
Can’t believe we are almost to present yugioh
I'll never forget one of my most frustrating games againt block ba from around this time. I was playing Nekroz at the time. First round of the tournament I played against block ba. I got blown out by Fossil Dyna game one. Game two I did the same thing to him with vanity ruler and blew him out. Game 3 was a lot closer. We both bricked a little bit, and had a slower game. He ended up getting me down to like 600 life points or something. But a top deck Trish started to come back. I was then able to establish Trish, Unicorn and Vanity fiend while putting him on top deck mode. Got him down to about 2000 life points with that field, every turn him just setting a monster because he can't do anything to out the fiend. It's his turn and he's watching the clock. He takes a second to think and ends up just setting a monster and passing. I go draw and go into Main. Before I can say battle, time is called. We have to finish the main phase and he wins the game with like 2000 life points to my 600. He even made a comment saying that I should have won that game because of my board state. Proceeds to say that oh well, time rules I have higher life points. I win. Even though he openly admitted that he should have lost... Later found out he went on to take fourth place at the event. I bubbled out. One of the most frustrating experiences ever
I had something very similar but in reverse I was playing sekkas ba and people at my locals were dicks to me all the time. We go into game 3 I combo it's his turn amd I Beatrice send rhino war then he got really mad cause there was about 1 min left and he said my Beatrice was stalling so I thought real long on the rhino and with 2 seconds left I barbar his ass for game. Then I opened a ulti outta my ots packs and the kid raged so hard he didn't show up for 6 months. He always thought it was funny to shit on me cause I had a kid and not the most money to play meanwhile he had all max rarity like 5 decks. He cried it was a cheesy win people can be weird though like I lost a locals cause someone argued I have to declare BLS double attack effect prior to going to battle phase. And nobody can argue that they were weird if I ever played in the 1-2 placing games they would always play for placing but if it was their friend (and this happened many times they would split first) and our shop would just give them both like 6 ots packs shit like that
Oh this is the time when I lent cimo my I:P after he signed it. My first YCS, and my last haha.
I remember playing that B.A. deck at my last regional I went to in my state, it was years since my last B.A. match and my opponent got pissed I had him say what his plays were. I just remember during g1 he just constantly summoned not saying what effects were what and me being confused, g2 I had him slow down and state what was happening and he got irritated that he had to say his plays. I also remembering I Nibbed him and he tried adding the monsters that were just used for a link summon on to the tokens atk/def.
I remember opening a lot of this set when it was new.
the legacy of "why did they give the effect of the "World Legacy Awakens" trap to quick link to an easy to summon generic link 2 monster that can be used everywhere with no drawbacks, but, in fact, only positive effects (litterally effect destruction protection)" 🗿
Sekkas light should be back to three. It’s insane downside isn’t worth running 1
toss was actually the era when I first started examining yugioh with a deeper lens. I was entering online tournaments, sure I wasn't playing anything competitive, but I was still was playing against real decks. I was playing when vfd was still legal. I'm a young duelist, but I consider myself a pretty experienced one.
Me and the boys ready to cry through tear 0 format
When I:P came out I got a booster box with both the ultra and the starlight
This set was just released before I got into the game. It made dragon link viable but printing striker dragon
Oh man. Coming up on Dragon Link’s first tirade as well as the wave of staple cards from ETCO. It’s high speed low drag all the way now.
Wait, Sekka's Light is STILL at 1, despite being incompatible with ANY other consistency Spell? They must be terrified of the Genex Ally Birdman FTK loop that no one in their right mind would rely on even when Genex gets their wacky new Link-1.
Sky Striker Orcust has WAY better options to work with now(and in the near future), the problem is Harp Horror is still banned. Oh well. Also still mad that the TCG basically missed out entirely on trying out Orcust Tearlaments before most of their good monsters got limited or banned, turning it into a bland Fusion Soup.
I tried orcust tear a bit, the orcust bricks kinda made a lot of tear hands unplayable and milling orcust s/t mid combo feels awful since there isn't a good way to recover them.
Funnily enough, Sekka got limited because of another monster mash deck that abused block dragon, Sekka Adamancipator
But yeah it really doesn't need to be limited, there hasn't been a good deck that could meaningfully take advantage of it since 2020.
orcust tear is unbelievable cope
Just one of those formats where it is a pain to watch
(skips forward every 10 seconds)
I really hope that last game ends up in the highlights
I love seeing more Sekka's Light BA!
TOSS technically continues until the Janurary 2020 banlist. With that being said, this definitely represented the tail end of the format. While Sky Striker Orcust was a dominant deck at this time, it's neat to reflect on what decks became playable at this time with I:P. Between this point in the format or the Azathot combo period, the "black sheep" of the TOSS moniker is up to interpretation. Loved this era of the game and I hope to see the format grow like Edison and other retro formats!
We are rapidly approaching the start of History in History. October 2020 is not too far away.
The card that made yugioh players acting unwise, both in game and outside of the game.
This format is nice (as a BA player), since is the combo-iest, funniest version of the deck
We’re getting closer and closer to branded and I’m gonna be so excited
Cimo complaining about Leviair summon in an unlinked zone in G2 is funny considering he summoned Galitea in an illegal zone in G1😂
wasnt he returning it from the farfa
lowkey im on the fence saying ip should be banned over the generic links she goes to, like having to make sp on your turn means sp is much better going 2nd than going 1st
Except decks like race still will abuse it going first
This format was a lotta fun
Sekka Hydralander BA
Yeah, MBT wasn't winning against Sky Striker Orcust. SS Orcust was the deck that killed TOSS format. Not long after it's dominance Konami banned everything that made the top decks competitive
This was when I got back into Yu-Gi-Oh! Pulled a secret in my first 3 packs.... Unfortunately it was darkfluid.
MBT playing in the imperm column activating effects D:
Rip , ba block dragon got me a lot of wins during these times
Are we going to see an episode covering the Mekk-Knight list?
What are all the instances that two bedt decks merge together. I could think of True Draco Zoo, this one, and Tear Spright (before Ishizu made Tear 0 format).
Cimo says link arrows when he summoned galetia in main monster zone g1 xd
Ohhh god we are about to reach ban the block
TOSS will be missed
This is shockingly close to no longer being "the history of yugioh." This is close to being just "yugioh." WE ARE STILL PLAYING IP MASQUERENA. RIGHT NOW.
Having said that, does this series not just abruptly end after...like, kashtira format? How do you update this? Just play a format behind forever? Ain't no way. And it's a shame
So why did he banish block dragon game 2? He could have had more to do
I hate the way the Yugioh community names decks. "BA Block Dragon". 4 main deck BA cards. 6 total. 7 if you count Beatrice.
When the rest of the deck is staples or alternate starters to get into the main combo line, it seems reasonable to name the deck after the main combo line. But I agree that it is ironic to some degree if your deck's name comes from 15-20% of its contents, lol
Spright Melffy plays 3, maybe 4 total Melffy cards, with only 2 of those being in the main deck
I seriously don't know if the way Joseph says Tsuchinoko is kind of weird on purpose as an -ussy joke or not.
When cimo doesn't grab engage off kagari 😭
Why does block dragon get broken in 6 months? Didnt play around this time due to job change.
Because Adamancipator gets released and completely warps the game around it, being able to extend like crazy with it regularly ending on at least 5 negates backed by Block Dragon's protection effect.
@@gloomba3312 wow.
I fucking love I:P
Unlock the block! (This is a joke, please don't)
Bold of you to assume adamancipators could compete with just block
@@LordBeau I firmly believe they would at least come back to tiered status in MD if BD and their archetype-specific hits were lifted. Depends on the metagame, but the deck could build extremely strong boards, had a great grind game, and was super consistent. There are very few decks currently popular that can say the same, they usually only have two out of three. I think only some of the current Branded brews can say the same, but even that deck needs to have creative brews to get over the "Branded Fusion gets Ashed 90% of your games" problem.
@@drewbabe adamancipators cannot go second and BD is not really helping that. MD is a different format and also has slightly different hits (for example, it has the prank kids engine, which is unironically better than halq a lot of the time)
just for sanity sake, would it be possible to put the time period down for every format in description or in the title. This would be a nice quality of life easy addition.
Also I love your content I watch maybe 85-90% of your uploads
It is time for MBT to achieve...CHIM!
I no longer understand what's going on in these duels
Did Cimo actually have to Crescendo the Dante g1? It was in the imperm column. Or does Imperm only negates S/T in that column when it negates on field?
The lingering effect is only for S/T. Also, the effect itself doesn't really matter anyways, the crescendo was to banish it.
Hey it'd be cool if you used that db feature that shows a certain banlist, just like in prog
Farfa's fav episode
00:55 Deck List/ Breakdown
12:35 Duels
Block this overhead sleeves.
MBT plays... Block Dragon.dek? 🤔🤔🤔
Why did they stop putting month in he video title?
I loved this episode, but it made me miss Harp. 😢
where can i find the TOSS server?
Its pains me when they dont read cards
Once snow comes back BA gets way better. For the moment it’s decent but not amazing.
We 100% kill game 1 and if not we special dyna and clear long plus gizmek for game
It didn't make a difference but boi do they forget imperm second effect
When mbt summoned block dragon and had graff on field shouldn’t graff pop itself?
Because Block Dragon makes your board immune to effect destruction
Thomas rooooooose😊
why playing rock spirit instead of 3 Gigantes ?
when does the ib synchro drop
Game 1 11:47
Game 2 23:06
so is anyone keeping score of wins/losses?
Wasn't Block B.A. mostly enabled by Snow? Hydralander only really works well when you can fix your GY with that.
Also wtf is Orcust doing on Jank?
Nah at this point you'd only run duplicates for earths which you could manipulate with block dragon to turn on hydralander.
@@shawnjavery That's still so bad though, you want to be able to fix your GY as a quick effect so you can't miss on Hydra's effect.
Avramax only can't be targeted if he is in the EMZ
That's incorrect he doesn't need to be in the EMZ to be untargetable he just needs to be link summoned which can be done in the main monster zone as long as a link in the EMZ is pointing to that particular zone in the main.
Joseph is really piloting this deck poorly 🤦🏻♂️
Hmm 0:26
Who played God of war Ragnarok Valhalla
Ever since Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island, cat girls are one of the ugliest character designs ever.
She is not a catgirl though. She just wears a cat outfit. She's based off Catwoman
Waifus have ruined this game, it's a homogenization that has slowly made the game look all the same
@@alonsoarana5307 yeah I hate dragons as well. They all look the same
Not a fan of Sky Striker as a deck, but as an engine in decks like this is based.
On the opposite end, I hate decks labeled "sky striker" but only uses engage drones and kagari as link climbing stepping stones
Saryuja would have missed timing if it was chain link 2, its a when effect. TBF cimmoo would have just let him make it cl 1