With dine out, you can only order 1 drink and 1 food item. It won’t allow you to order appetizer, main course, and dessert. You can only pick one and a drink.
I’ve had the pack since launch and you definitely used to be able to order more than one course at the same time but that seems to have changed recently
I think it would've been cute if the kids had one of those play pretend kitchen toys so they could pretend they own a restaurant with other kids or adult sims like their parents.
Oh yeah!! We had something similar in the sims 3! It was a small oven children could make muffins with and sell it in the street. It was so cute and fun.
They need to buy Carl's programming is what they need to do. Just give him every unearned dollar they have received from that game pack and consider themselves lucky someone swooped in and saved their asses.
The thing is i only hate that we have to hire chefs that are unskilled. Whenever a chef quits or dies, i have to hire a chef that is level 1 and my food quality drops. I thinl they have to give us a choice to hire expensive and qualified chefs. I dont like training them from scratch.
Being in Carl's Discord server, others have said 'you should work for EA!' and he has openly stated that the way he writes mods would not be acceptable in their workplace, and since I'm not him, I can't explain the technicalities of how he codes and how it is very different from how THEY code, but he has stated that basically, the code for how he fixed Dine Out would not be able to be used if he worked for them - he wouldn't have been allowed to write it in the way he did. I think more people need to realize that mod makers get freedom in how they approach tweaking the game - TS4 Devs are just chattle to EA... they are forced to work within strict guidelines, and oftimes all the bad things about a pack are because they were rushed, and restricted in their approach. I would highly recommend maybe reaching out to some of the mod-makers you like for an interview type thing! Not only would it be interesting, it would maybe help shed light (for the community) on how mods are made, and why they can accomplish things the game and its devs cannot. But for those who don't understand coding, I think an interview with someone like Carl would be great - maybe he could help explain in layman's terms how and why it all works.
That is a great idea for a video and sounds really interesting, I am really intrigued and would love to understand more about the technical side of mod creating too!
@@stmsly The issue is not wanting the cake to taste good (as an example), its following the recipe. The client wants you to use specific bowls and utensils and have the cake ready and decorated tomorrow, which can lead to a rushed product, and someone who is used to using, say, a knife instead of a pipette may not like using that tool or even be able to in that timeframe. They also won't be able to use the cake you coldboxed.
What you can't do with dine out is order the appetizer, main course and desert plus drinks in 1 go. You first have to do the appetizer and drinks, then order the main course and drinks and so on. Which with your sim that can't sit still in her chair or her date that just goes away is annoying.
I don't understand Dine Out. Not only does it not work and frustrate players, but from a coding standpoint I have no idea why they went the route they did with it. Without getting into a lot of coding specifics, it's very complicated and works against the autonomy feature of the game. Why would they code it like that? For counter service dining they could have simply made a bar like item that served food instead, which would have been super easy to code and create the opportunity for simmers to make actual diners/fast food places. And for a sit down dining experience, being seated, ordering drinks, and ordering food should be one continuous interaction that a sim can multitask during (similar to writing a book, so they can still talk/eat/whatever while doing it) and then have the "staff" sims not have autonomy. Half of the glitches/hangups during weddings, parties, outings in general, etc. is that the NPC staff sims hired to run the event still have autonomy to do whatever they like instead of being a true NPC in that moment and following the steps of the event. And as for "owning" a restaurant, if it's not going to be a live career for chef sims and you're just the "owner" then there is no reason for you to go there on a regular basis. It should be passive income with occasional events (similar to For Rent without the bugs) where you get a bug infestation or fire or something and have to deal with it. That would make way more since than just standing there talking to people LMAO
Had my Sim take his girl on a date and they actually stayed seated, got their food and drinks on time, even had a nice convo while eating/drinking. It was a miracle, literally- it was so cute. 😭❤
I actually couldn’t play without dine out. I mostly use it as a patron not restaurant management. I had Carl’s mod for awhile and then took it out as its more for restaurant management than what I use dine out for. I do have a small mod called ‘faster restaurant cooking”. You also have to order each course separately. So once you finish your appetizer, then you order your main, etc etc. I alway just do a drink and a main or just go for desert as that usually takes a reasonable amount of sim time and I get the experienced I wanted, Sims going out to eat, pay, go home.
I think the bigger shame about eating as the customer (also how I use this pack) is my toddlers have absolutely no way to eat using it. I have to force my sim parents to give up their food to their toddler who will go sit far away to eat.
@@corabeaniyeah, I don't bother taking toddlers to restaurants, lol. In fact, after trying to make it easier to do stuff out with toddlers and infants I just realized it isn't worth it cause the game isn't built for it...far beyond Dine Out Toddlers are a pain to take anywhere and not for normal toddler reasons, so I limit trips with infants and toddlers to rec centers, parks, and libraries if it has a kids section. I won't even take them to feativals. So only kids go with me to restaurants on very special occasions 😂😂, the babies and tots can go to daycare or get a nanny. Dine out, I am pretty sure (it's a blur) came out before the toddler update maybe? Kids also can't always order from various vendor stations (like bubble tea, kids can't order from them) which annoys me more! Especially when I want to play with kids out with their friends and they can't get food at all without an adult there. Like a ten year old would have pocket money to order alone more than likely. They instantly get a cell phone when aging up, but can't order bubble tea....makes no sense.
@@TheDawnofVanlife I totally agree and understand. I do think toddlers and infants came too late to do a lot of activities within the game. Their gameplay can be borderline boring and kind of confusing when you age them up all the way through and still have no frame of reference what all they can do or why they talk to people outside their age groups. Or why say... Greg the big bad werewolf will befriend your wee ones.
@@corabeani They have activities its just very home based 1:1 play in the infant and toddler stages. And some of it is cute, but its very homebound and family restricted. Seeing as I lengthen all my life stages I do quite enjoy tots and infants overall. Even in real life taking babies and toddlers anywhere is an actual pain and what you can do as an adult is limited with a baby with you, so that bit is realistic anyway. If you can go out without the kids IRL, you will. Its just in-game the reasons why are different than real life, namely there is very little benefit to taking them out and less you can do with them outside the home vs in it. The closest you get to parent events is the toddler playdate which requires you knowing toddlers…which is hard when you don’t have things like Mommy and Me classes or places where other Sim parents are triggered to show up with their kids..and act like parents while there! Its not that hard for adult sims to meet other adult sims because it was designed as a young adult simulator anyway. Which is why a lot of people jump out of family life almost as soon as it starts because the game struggles with it. Us family players just power through it and work around the limitations. But even if you take your kids and tots to the park, there is a low chance of other parents showing up with their kids and tots. And half the reason of going out is not only adult sims socializing but kids meeting other kids (and I am using “kids” as a catch all term here for all non-adult life stages). A big thing I wish Sims 4 would add that was in past games is ‘invite household’ like if you knew a sim you could invite their household to your house even if you didn’t know everyone. So you could ask Sally Sim to bring over her son for a casual dinner and the kids could meet and play without any elaborate event planning. I have to go through hoops to get my toddlers and kids aquainted early in there life. At least I can use the club system for kids, you can’t with toddlers. So I find myself cheating the toddler over after inviting the parent and “pretending” mom and kid came together just so the two toddlers can start knowing each other and possibly turn into friends later. The fact that strollers just don’t exist show how uninterested Sims 4 is in the mobility of parents with small kids (infants and toddlers).
Just tried it last night because of the “Night out on the Town” event was going on. Sims glitched 3x, wouldn’t stay in their seats even when chatting with each other. All my sims are 5 star celebs but when other celebs came to the lot, my sims glitched and had to reorder the food and drinks. After 2 hours REAL TIME, I just turned the game off.
The best business type is the vet clinic bc there's actual game play where as owning a shop or restaurant is kind of boring bc it's just chatting to sims 😂
@@kirasant maybe he didn't realize about that cuz for example, if he choose one dish before but after that choose another dish, the previous option will disappear. Just like him, I used to think there was error about this but realized after a few try
@@Alexandria.J.Barmer me too, this makes me loose interest with dine out so much. i have to use UI cheat to decrease my sims hunger, then order the next dish lol
It's weird but when I used to play sims I had a great time with Dine Out pack. The restaurants worked well and I loved the CAS and Build Mode that I'd use all the time for my sims and their houses
True, at first it functioned real well, but something messed up it up, and now it just bugs out, and who knows WHEN the food will come, lollz. It is like a one in how many chance it works.
agreed. it used to work but now its completely broken. that's what happens when the game just becomes a DLC simulator and none of the mechanics work together
I genuinely don’t understand how they haven’t recalled or fixed this expansion…..every single person who bought it should ask for a refund so they understand that people aren’t ok with it.
The fact that this pack was released in this state, continues to sit at full price in this state, and is hard to get a refund for due to being in this state is sinful. Absolutely shameful.
My dine out is working. I found if you have any thing on the table nothing will be delivered to the table. So no lights, menus or plates and the orders would be delivered. But I just played today with no issues but try again. Use my restaurant called “power of love “ to see if it works for you.
At this point they should just pay off all the mod creators who have created all the fixes for this game since EA does not have any staff members with enough time to do it.
I usually only order drinks and main course. I think stuff on the tables can also cause glitches. Like sims getting up all the time. Also, smaller restaurants seem to be less glitchy. Like with wedding storries, it is best to keep things simple. But ofc things should just work like they are supposed to.
So do the toddlers if you take them to one because they can't actually interact with having food. This is probably an oversight because toddlers came after this pack by years, but literally they forgot to add toddlers to it even as an "order for" option.
I’m so surprised. Dine out works for me. I don’t experience any of these problems. My only problem is when I have a party there and we don’t get seated together. But I can fix that by going as a group & choosing to sit together
no but imagine if serving, hosting, or mixologist (would say bartender but it’s EA so they’d neverrrrr) were live careers your sims could do in a restaurant! would have genuinely been so fun and quite challenging (as a real life server and bartender, lmao.)
EA should offer an option to refund the difference in price so it’s just a stuff pack since gameplay is so broken. For all packs that are like this, so all of them?
Controversial, but I love Dine Out! I use the Women’s dress, female child’s hair, and men’s blazer all the time. Also mine never really bugs. I’ve not had issues the last few times I’ve played it. Granted I don’t tend to run them, I just use them as date locations. Also I use the build/buy mode for Every. Single. Build. Especially the plants, tiles and kitchen themed clutter items!
A note for those watching this video, that this is before the patch coming before Lovestruck, which is supposed to have bug fixes for Dine Out. I hope it actually helps. Lol
Thank you for saving me from spending money on this pack! I love that you are reviewing older packs, I’ve held off on buying this pack and the only reviews I found online were from when it first released. I was hoping the bugs would be fixed by now and thanks to this video I see they aren’t 😅
Is really funny that sims 2 players literally released a story progression mod that literally change the main core of the game, while sims 4 players need to release a fix for something EA should be doing.
Building upon what Satch said: The build stuff is alright. I do use items from this pack quite a bit. However, the lack of veritle ownership or repeative interactions prevents me as a player from wanting to own a restaurant AND as the player I very RARELY take my sims to a restaurant to eat (due to wait times mainly). That's just my gameplay though. (I'm not really one that enjoys super repetitive gameplay, but you can look up JamesTurner's rags to riches to see the gameplay in a lot more detail.) Get to Work is better for a quick serve restaurant type due to selling displays that are coolers for the food. OR you can choose any selling table pack.
And of course Carl is the one saving EA's ass, he should be the person responsible for allowing the packs to be released or not, because he knows how to fix the bugs, not like people who work there now who probably think 'code' is their bank account card PIN..
i've always felt a bit like an outsider when it comes to dine out because it seems like everyone else is bashing it for being completely unplayable. i was disappointed because it was lacking in gameplay features but otherwise it run fine for me even on a laptop, besides maybe the annoying general performance issues like sims unable to resist the urge to play in a pile of trash or fainting after seeing a celebrity, to which you just get used at this point.
I had Sims 4 for my PS4, bought maybe five dlc packs. When it died, we got an Xbox. I probably have 8 dlc packs, maybe even up to 12, I don't know, I haven't played it since I got a Lenovo legion go... PC gaming. I got 3 packs, I'm not really trying to buy more. I've fogone seasons, I can't buy it a third time. I just - can't. So, I purchased Dine out finally this last steam sale, only because- I heard Carl's Mod was so good and made the pack work. I don't even know what the game is like without it, and I've been having so much fun with restaurants!
What is real fun, is I have basemental drugs, so I can run an edible eatery and it's just amazing. One of my three packs is Get to Work, so now I have both canna bakeries and canna restaurants:D
I'm so glad that I never bought this pack. The concept is a must have but they completely botched it. I totally agree it should be fixed or recalled with refunds.
Serious question but like how long can they keep dine out and wedding stories this broken before we'd have a legitimate cause for a class action. Because not being funny but how could EA argue that they are trying to fix this when its been years now
It is good to see the review on this, even though it has been how many years since it came out - when it USED to work, lollz -, but I tried the buying restaurant option for the first time, noticed I never tried it, one of the days. I'm sorry to say, but I found it so boring. Forgot families and so, people known can't be selected, and pleasing customers and staff is fine, but my Sim not doing as much, just cleaning if needed, and telling whosoever options that could be selected, got boring really fast. I am glad to hear, and know there is a mod, for doing things around the restaurant, and it seems so much more fun. Might have to try it one day - taking in as I only just got my game to function, and before wasn't able to travel to lots/run a business actively. Was too long, VERY LONG loading screens. Not a great way to play. Have more freedom now...,for now, lollz 😅
I geeatly dislike how this pack needs mods or specific funtions. This and the outdoors really needs the refresh, but they stopped after their first two attemps..
Karen's are unreasonable and usually rude. You gave us very reasoned and polite reasons why Dien Out is trash. Nothing you said was overly critical or harsh.
I just bought Dine out a few months ago, but bought it as a bundle through a very reputable electronic store here in NZ (genuine EA products) on clearance, I got 4 bundle packs (4 game packs and 8 stuff packs) for the equivalent of USD$36, so would have paid $3USD for Dine Out, so not overly sad, but I haven't actually loaded Dine Out onto game yet......think will also get the mod!
Forgetting about the fact that it doesn’t work, there are more features in Dine Out than Lovestruck or really any of the more recent expansions (which also don’t work). That’s really sad.
I really want them to refresh it... that and Outdoor Retreat. I can't complete the bugs collection because it always appears the same bugs. I can't remember the last time I saw a fire ant.
When it works; it's great! But Sims have deeply loved one game above all else; Musical Chairs. Sims will do anything or stop anything to play Musical Chairs.
I just bought this dlc and it runs perfect for me 😳 like I’m even surprise that my sims just stays in the table the whole meal. Could it be cause I only have like 8 expansion packs ?
For anyone who has this pack and wants a better experience, rather than trying to get refunded I recommend the dine out reloaded mod by carl’s guide. It makes the pack way less buggy when dining out, plus it gives you the option to play as the the chef or the host or the waiter. It’s free and easy to install and makes the pack actually playable. Sadly though this doesn’t fix the issue for console players or those who don’t or can’t download mods:( I wish ea would fix this pack but instead they will just keep releasing even more broken buggy packs. Ea only cares about a pack before ppl buy it, after they don’t care, they have their money, why fix it? Makes me so disappointed lol.
A LinkedIn page of Maxis' former employee suggests that The Sims 5, or at least its PS5 version, is no more. UPD: An anonymous source close to Maxis has confirmed to me that the rumor is false: the studio is still developing PC and mobile versions of The Sims 5.
Dine out been broken for years, I wish they would fix it. This is why I use Carls DineOut mod. And the Fact EA still showing Ads for this pack it diabolical...
I'll disagree with you on CAS. As a male simmer, I use the waistcoat and jacket with tie a lot for my formal wear and party wear for adult sims. The full body female outfits function very well on adult and ever elder sims, something that is otherwise lacking. The CAS in this pack is indispensable in my view. Dining is thoroughly broken though. Thank f. for Carl and his mod.
Dine Out, or the Archetype of broken gameplay. If you want a refund, the request and all subsequent communications MUST be in perfect Simlish. That include having a conversation with you speaking fluent Simlish.
The waiters dropping the food gets me soo irritated 😆 I know they’re trying to be quirky and show how the sim has low skill but it’s sooo aggy especially when it’s the 2nd time the order glitched and never came and it finally comes and they drop it and it’s been 10 sim hours like omggg
i reallyyy wanted to buy this pack because it sounds so fun to have my sims go out and eat together but it'd be a terrible waste of money even if i download mods to make the experience bearable
Honestly it isn't so bad as a pack to have an extra date location. However, you cannot feed toddlers with it. They aren't included at all, so keep this in mind should you ever get it and want to take the family out to eat.
Yeah I was about to not get this pack because of the reviews, but it works for me. I wonder if they fixed for when you buy it but can’t fix it with updates??
@@jssfrk161 I think they update it little by little to be sure no big bugs or glitches happen, but overall as a whole the pack hasn't been updated like a refresh or better functionality. It has a lot of lagging and odd interaction. For example your toddlers cannot have food because toddlers were added after the pack came out which never got included. And when your sims get invited they must pay despite being the invited sim.
I have had no big issues with Dine Out, twice I never got served and it was because of the restaurant design it turned out. Got it from the gallery and plopped it in, tweaked a couple things in the build and it works fine. If you wanna do all three courses it will take forever especially since you order each separate. I never do all three courses, a drink and one food item is good enough for me. I pay the bill and leave after that.
12:20-12:30 I've wondered this too, why dont they just pay the guy who made the mod to fix it for them since they dont want to do it. This mod would of been great date night material or dining gameplay if it worked. I would of bought it and they keep making new shit instead of idk adding updates, bug fixes, like other games do?
Wait, you’re able to actually order multiple things at once? I’ve only been able to order one thing and wait until it’s cleared then order another thing. I always just assumed this was how the pack was supposed to be lol. I could be wrong though.
Oh man, I bought this expansion day one and I felt like the writing was on the wall. I can't believe how long this pack has been broken. And for everyone who says "well mine works!" okay cool? But clearly that's rare. Which is BAD! Even if yours works, you gotta admit, it shouldn't be common for everyone elses to be so broken!
A lot of the "mine works fine" comes from people who have worked out the intricacies of the coding of the pack, which really speaks to how poor the game design is. You shouldn't need to experiment with the game in order to work out how to make it simply function correctly.
With dine out, you can only order 1 drink and 1 food item. It won’t allow you to order appetizer, main course, and dessert. You can only pick one and a drink.
i noticed this. i bought it ages ago but only started playing it the other day and all they receive is a dessert and a drink lmao
I’ve had the pack since launch and you definitely used to be able to order more than one course at the same time but that seems to have changed recently
I always thought that was rediculous .
@@Olivia44555 idk I’ve had the pack for a couple years now and it’s always been like that for me. So I just assumed that’s how it was supposed to be.
@@isaveu same. Isn’t the point of going out to eat is to have a whole coursed meal?
I think it would've been cute if the kids had one of those play pretend kitchen toys so they could pretend they own a restaurant with other kids or adult sims like their parents.
Agreed. There’s a mod I use for that: PandaSama x Ravasheen Little Chef's Toy Kitchen for anyone using mods and cc
I just want the kids' oven from Sims 2 back. I don't ask for much.
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Oh yeah!! We had something similar in the sims 3! It was a small oven children could make muffins with and sell it in the street. It was so cute and fun.
That's probably going to be a separate pack
ohgod don't leave the Dine Out Reloaded mod to EA - they'll find a way to ruin it somehow
My First Restaurant Stuff
They need to buy Carl's programming is what they need to do. Just give him every unearned dollar they have received from that game pack and consider themselves lucky someone swooped in and saved their asses.
The thing is i only hate that we have to hire chefs that are unskilled. Whenever a chef quits or dies, i have to hire a chef that is level 1 and my food quality drops. I thinl they have to give us a choice to hire expensive and qualified chefs. I dont like training them from scratch.
yeah it should have that option for realism, irl a high quality restaurant would invest more in highly skilled chefs
I literally just cheat their skills up when that happens LOL. Its so much easier to hold shift and edit sim info
@@LoveByNicole i didnt know about that cheat. I should use that 😂
Being in Carl's Discord server, others have said 'you should work for EA!' and he has openly stated that the way he writes mods would not be acceptable in their workplace, and since I'm not him, I can't explain the technicalities of how he codes and how it is very different from how THEY code, but he has stated that basically, the code for how he fixed Dine Out would not be able to be used if he worked for them - he wouldn't have been allowed to write it in the way he did. I think more people need to realize that mod makers get freedom in how they approach tweaking the game - TS4 Devs are just chattle to EA... they are forced to work within strict guidelines, and oftimes all the bad things about a pack are because they were rushed, and restricted in their approach. I would highly recommend maybe reaching out to some of the mod-makers you like for an interview type thing! Not only would it be interesting, it would maybe help shed light (for the community) on how mods are made, and why they can accomplish things the game and its devs cannot. But for those who don't understand coding, I think an interview with someone like Carl would be great - maybe he could help explain in layman's terms how and why it all works.
that sounds like a really interesting video
That is a great idea for a video and sounds really interesting, I am really intrigued and would love to understand more about the technical side of mod creating too!
so youre telling me EA wouldnt want anyone to make a pack that actually works... yeah sounds about right lol.
@@stmsly The issue is not wanting the cake to taste good (as an example), its following the recipe. The client wants you to use specific bowls and utensils and have the cake ready and decorated tomorrow, which can lead to a rushed product, and someone who is used to using, say, a knife instead of a pipette may not like using that tool or even be able to in that timeframe. They also won't be able to use the cake you coldboxed.
At this point Shanice Shanice should be the 5 star-celeb in the game
Seconded
More like a 6 stars celebrity.
With Carl's mod this is turned out to be one of the most fun gameplays I have ever done.
Carl deserves a 6 figure payout from EA simply for existing.
this pack had so much potential to be fun. i like the build/buy items.
That sums up Sims 4
Game of missed opportunities and potential
What you can't do with dine out is order the appetizer, main course and desert plus drinks in 1 go. You first have to do the appetizer and drinks, then order the main course and drinks and so on. Which with your sim that can't sit still in her chair or her date that just goes away is annoying.
Yeah I usually just get a drink and main and bounce.
@@TheDawnofVanlife Mostly I do that too
I don't understand Dine Out. Not only does it not work and frustrate players, but from a coding standpoint I have no idea why they went the route they did with it. Without getting into a lot of coding specifics, it's very complicated and works against the autonomy feature of the game. Why would they code it like that? For counter service dining they could have simply made a bar like item that served food instead, which would have been super easy to code and create the opportunity for simmers to make actual diners/fast food places. And for a sit down dining experience, being seated, ordering drinks, and ordering food should be one continuous interaction that a sim can multitask during (similar to writing a book, so they can still talk/eat/whatever while doing it) and then have the "staff" sims not have autonomy. Half of the glitches/hangups during weddings, parties, outings in general, etc. is that the NPC staff sims hired to run the event still have autonomy to do whatever they like instead of being a true NPC in that moment and following the steps of the event. And as for "owning" a restaurant, if it's not going to be a live career for chef sims and you're just the "owner" then there is no reason for you to go there on a regular basis. It should be passive income with occasional events (similar to For Rent without the bugs) where you get a bug infestation or fire or something and have to deal with it. That would make way more since than just standing there talking to people LMAO
Had my Sim take his girl on a date and they actually stayed seated, got their food and drinks on time, even had a nice convo while eating/drinking. It was a miracle, literally- it was so cute. 😭❤
I actually couldn’t play without dine out. I mostly use it as a patron not restaurant management. I had Carl’s mod for awhile and then took it out as its more for restaurant management than what I use dine out for. I do have a small mod called ‘faster restaurant cooking”. You also have to order each course separately. So once you finish your appetizer, then you order your main, etc etc. I alway just do a drink and a main or just go for desert as that usually takes a reasonable amount of sim time and I get the experienced I wanted, Sims going out to eat, pay, go home.
I think the bigger shame about eating as the customer (also how I use this pack) is my toddlers have absolutely no way to eat using it. I have to force my sim parents to give up their food to their toddler who will go sit far away to eat.
@@corabeaniyeah, I don't bother taking toddlers to restaurants, lol. In fact, after trying to make it easier to do stuff out with toddlers and infants I just realized it isn't worth it cause the game isn't built for it...far beyond Dine Out Toddlers are a pain to take anywhere and not for normal toddler reasons, so I limit trips with infants and toddlers to rec centers, parks, and libraries if it has a kids section. I won't even take them to feativals. So only kids go with me to restaurants on very special occasions 😂😂, the babies and tots can go to daycare or get a nanny.
Dine out, I am pretty sure (it's a blur) came out before the toddler update maybe?
Kids also can't always order from various vendor stations (like bubble tea, kids can't order from them) which annoys me more! Especially when I want to play with kids out with their friends and they can't get food at all without an adult there. Like a ten year old would have pocket money to order alone more than likely. They instantly get a cell phone when aging up, but can't order bubble tea....makes no sense.
@@TheDawnofVanlife I totally agree and understand. I do think toddlers and infants came too late to do a lot of activities within the game. Their gameplay can be borderline boring and kind of confusing when you age them up all the way through and still have no frame of reference what all they can do or why they talk to people outside their age groups. Or why say... Greg the big bad werewolf will befriend your wee ones.
@@corabeani They have activities its just very home based 1:1 play in the infant and toddler stages. And some of it is cute, but its very homebound and family restricted. Seeing as I lengthen all my life stages I do quite enjoy tots and infants overall. Even in real life taking babies and toddlers anywhere is an actual pain and what you can do as an adult is limited with a baby with you, so that bit is realistic anyway. If you can go out without the kids IRL, you will. Its just in-game the reasons why are different than real life, namely there is very little benefit to taking them out and less you can do with them outside the home vs in it. The closest you get to parent events is the toddler playdate which requires you knowing toddlers…which is hard when you don’t have things like Mommy and Me classes or places where other Sim parents are triggered to show up with their kids..and act like parents while there!
Its not that hard for adult sims to meet other adult sims because it was designed as a young adult simulator anyway. Which is why a lot of people jump out of family life almost as soon as it starts because the game struggles with it. Us family players just power through it and work around the limitations. But even if you take your kids and tots to the park, there is a low chance of other parents showing up with their kids and tots. And half the reason of going out is not only adult sims socializing but kids meeting other kids (and I am using “kids” as a catch all term here for all non-adult life stages). A big thing I wish Sims 4 would add that was in past games is ‘invite household’ like if you knew a sim you could invite their household to your house even if you didn’t know everyone. So you could ask Sally Sim to bring over her son for a casual dinner and the kids could meet and play without any elaborate event planning. I have to go through hoops to get my toddlers and kids aquainted early in there life. At least I can use the club system for kids, you can’t with toddlers. So I find myself cheating the toddler over after inviting the parent and “pretending” mom and kid came together just so the two toddlers can start knowing each other and possibly turn into friends later. The fact that strollers just don’t exist show how uninterested Sims 4 is in the mobility of parents with small kids (infants and toddlers).
Just tried it last night because of the “Night out on the Town” event was going on. Sims glitched 3x, wouldn’t stay in their seats even when chatting with each other. All my sims are 5 star celebs but when other celebs came to the lot, my sims glitched and had to reorder the food and drinks. After 2 hours REAL TIME, I just turned the game off.
2 hours real time is crazy, that must have been infuriating
The best business type is the vet clinic bc there's actual game play where as owning a shop or restaurant is kind of boring bc it's just chatting to sims 😂
Beside from drinks, you can only select 1 dish (could be appetizer, main or dessert) per order and cannot order all of these things at the same time
But you can order other dish after that tho (for ex: you order main dish and you can other dessert after your sims finish the main dish
@@renji_sama Exactly. I had to back up the video when he started acting like more food should be coming.
@@kirasant maybe he didn't realize about that cuz for example, if he choose one dish before but after that choose another dish, the previous option will disappear. Just like him, I used to think there was error about this but realized after a few try
I find this really annoying bc your sim eats an appetiser n is full 😅
@@Alexandria.J.Barmer me too, this makes me loose interest with dine out so much. i have to use UI cheat to decrease my sims hunger, then order the next dish lol
It's weird but when I used to play sims I had a great time with Dine Out pack. The restaurants worked well and I loved the CAS and Build Mode that I'd use all the time for my sims and their houses
True, at first it functioned real well, but something messed up it up, and now it just bugs out, and who knows WHEN the food will come, lollz. It is like a one in how many chance it works.
agreed. it used to work but now its completely broken. that's what happens when the game just becomes a DLC simulator and none of the mechanics work together
Satch, you can’t order all courses at once. You can only choose one food and one drink, then you have to order again, if you want another course.
The most expensive Build/Buy kit you can get. I think it deserves bonus points for the sheer audacity.
This pack used to work and be fun. EA's problem is that they never update old packs or consider them when making new packs.
Flo's Diner Dash reference- I Loved that game!!! That would be cool if Dine Out was like that!
The Spa Day refresh made me so hopeful that this pack might get fixed 💔
The spa day refresh is actually pretty good. I bought this pack just because they refreshed it.
I genuinely don’t understand how they haven’t recalled or fixed this expansion…..every single person who bought it should ask for a refund so they understand that people aren’t ok with it.
If they're so butthurt about people not wanting the pack, then fix it and give it for free. They've given backyard to us already
2:45 really thought you’d say “let’s talk about eating out.” Haha
The fact that this pack was released in this state, continues to sit at full price in this state, and is hard to get a refund for due to being in this state is sinful. Absolutely shameful.
My dine out is working. I found if you have any thing on the table nothing will be delivered to the table. So no lights, menus or plates and the orders would be delivered. But I just played today with no issues but try again. Use my restaurant called “power of love “ to see if it works for you.
before i buy any pack i always just come to your channel and see if its my money’s worth😭 so glad i found youuu
How many times have you brutally reviewed this pack?
Yea. I could have sworn he reviewed this before
At this point they should just pay off all the mod creators who have created all the fixes for this game since EA does not have any staff members with enough time to do it.
It worked when I went to other restaurants for eating . It’s usually custom restaurants that seem to have an issue and some specific restaurants
I usually only order drinks and main course. I think stuff on the tables can also cause glitches. Like sims getting up all the time. Also, smaller restaurants seem to be less glitchy. Like with wedding storries, it is best to keep things simple. But ofc things should just work like they are supposed to.
This might just be me but when I play dine out everything goes smoothly
My sim died of hunger after waiting 13 hours to be served! 😂
So do the toddlers if you take them to one because they can't actually interact with having food. This is probably an oversight because toddlers came after this pack by years, but literally they forgot to add toddlers to it even as an "order for" option.
I’m so surprised. Dine out works for me. I don’t experience any of these problems. My only problem is when I have a party there and we don’t get seated together. But I can fix that by going as a group & choosing to sit together
3:54 I’ve figured out that you could only order one meal at a time so you have to order each course separately
no but imagine if serving, hosting, or mixologist (would say bartender but it’s EA so they’d neverrrrr) were live careers your sims could do in a restaurant! would have genuinely been so fun and quite challenging (as a real life server and bartender, lmao.)
EA should offer an option to refund the difference in price so it’s just a stuff pack since gameplay is so broken. For all packs that are like this, so all of them?
Controversial, but I love Dine Out!
I use the Women’s dress, female child’s hair, and men’s blazer all the time.
Also mine never really bugs. I’ve not had issues the last few times I’ve played it. Granted I don’t tend to run them, I just use them as date locations.
Also I use the build/buy mode for Every. Single. Build. Especially the plants, tiles and kitchen themed clutter items!
I really appreciate these Bruce Lee Honest Reviews!
I’m honestly shocked that this wasn’t one of your first reviews lol
It’s like you saved the “best” for last 😂
A note for those watching this video, that this is before the patch coming before Lovestruck, which is supposed to have bug fixes for Dine Out. I hope it actually helps. Lol
Has it fixed it for u?
I do love the casual/formal outfits in this pack. they're really fancy and timeless, even though there isn't much, they made good choices
Thank you for saving me from spending money on this pack! I love that you are reviewing older packs, I’ve held off on buying this pack and the only reviews I found online were from when it first released. I was hoping the bugs would be fixed by now and thanks to this video I see they aren’t 😅
Is really funny that sims 2 players literally released a story progression mod that literally change the main core of the game, while sims 4 players need to release a fix for something EA should be doing.
Building upon what Satch said:
The build stuff is alright. I do use items from this pack quite a bit. However, the lack of veritle ownership or repeative interactions prevents me as a player from wanting to own a restaurant AND as the player I very RARELY take my sims to a restaurant to eat (due to wait times mainly). That's just my gameplay though. (I'm not really one that enjoys super repetitive gameplay, but you can look up JamesTurner's rags to riches to see the gameplay in a lot more detail.)
Get to Work is better for a quick serve restaurant type due to selling displays that are coolers for the food. OR you can choose any selling table pack.
And of course Carl is the one saving EA's ass, he should be the person responsible for allowing the packs to be released or not, because he knows how to fix the bugs, not like people who work there now who probably think 'code' is their bank account card PIN..
i've always felt a bit like an outsider when it comes to dine out because it seems like everyone else is bashing it for being completely unplayable. i was disappointed because it was lacking in gameplay features but otherwise it run fine for me even on a laptop, besides maybe the annoying general performance issues like sims unable to resist the urge to play in a pile of trash or fainting after seeing a celebrity, to which you just get used at this point.
I don't understand why they won't hire these people who make the mods. Im not PC but I wish I was just for the mods and cc.
Me too at this point let the Consoles have fun to
EA FIX YOUR GAME PLEASE!
In the sims 2 there was a chance the waiters would accidentally spill the food on the sim they were serving. I was so sad they didn't include it
I don't think Carl is an amateur, but I'm on console and would sure like to see EA pay him so I could use his features
I feel your pain. Carl's mod is excellent.
This vid will not disappoint! I’m excited!👀💕
You left absolutely NO CRUMBS satch 👏👏👏 saying nothing but FACTSSSS!!!!
Carl's mod fixes it perfectly which shows it is possible 😂 they are just that lazy
“A part of the gameplay experience is DINING at a restaurant, Allegedlllllyyy” 😂💀
0 points is crazy and I totally agree ✨
I had Sims 4 for my PS4, bought maybe five dlc packs. When it died, we got an Xbox. I probably have 8 dlc packs, maybe even up to 12, I don't know, I haven't played it since I got a Lenovo legion go... PC gaming. I got 3 packs, I'm not really trying to buy more. I've fogone seasons, I can't buy it a third time. I just - can't. So, I purchased Dine out finally this last steam sale, only because- I heard Carl's Mod was so good and made the pack work. I don't even know what the game is like without it, and I've been having so much fun with restaurants!
What is real fun, is I have basemental drugs, so I can run an edible eatery and it's just amazing. One of my three packs is Get to Work, so now I have both canna bakeries and canna restaurants:D
This is actually the only pack that works perfectly fine for me, I never have any issue with food, my sims sitting down and eating etc.
I'm so glad that I never bought this pack. The concept is a must have but they completely botched it.
I totally agree it should be fixed or recalled with refunds.
Serious question but like how long can they keep dine out and wedding stories this broken before we'd have a legitimate cause for a class action. Because not being funny but how could EA argue that they are trying to fix this when its been years now
if this pack was done properly it would have been a game by itself man a Resto sim damn
It is good to see the review on this, even though it has been how many years since it came out - when it USED to work, lollz -, but I tried the buying restaurant option for the first time, noticed I never tried it, one of the days. I'm sorry to say, but I found it so boring. Forgot families and so, people known can't be selected, and pleasing customers and staff is fine, but my Sim not doing as much, just cleaning if needed, and telling whosoever options that could be selected, got boring really fast. I am glad to hear, and know there is a mod, for doing things around the restaurant, and it seems so much more fun. Might have to try it one day - taking in as I only just got my game to function, and before wasn't able to travel to lots/run a business actively. Was too long, VERY LONG loading screens. Not a great way to play. Have more freedom now...,for now, lollz 😅
I geeatly dislike how this pack needs mods or specific funtions. This and the outdoors really needs the refresh, but they stopped after their first two attemps..
Aw, I miss Diner Dash. I keep looking for a mobile version but it's not there 😢 Idk if it is on Steam at all
Karen's are unreasonable and usually rude. You gave us very reasoned and polite reasons why Dien Out is trash. Nothing you said was overly critical or harsh.
Ikr?? Smh
Fully agree
I just bought Dine out a few months ago, but bought it as a bundle through a very reputable electronic store here in NZ (genuine EA products) on clearance, I got 4 bundle packs (4 game packs and 8 stuff packs) for the equivalent of USD$36, so would have paid $3USD for Dine Out, so not overly sad, but I haven't actually loaded Dine Out onto game yet......think will also get the mod!
Forgetting about the fact that it doesn’t work, there are more features in Dine Out than Lovestruck or really any of the more recent expansions (which also don’t work). That’s really sad.
I really want them to refresh it... that and Outdoor Retreat. I can't complete the bugs collection because it always appears the same bugs. I can't remember the last time I saw a fire ant.
When it works; it's great! But Sims have deeply loved one game above all else; Musical Chairs. Sims will do anything or stop anything to play Musical Chairs.
My favorite review to date!
I just bought this dlc and it runs perfect for me 😳 like I’m even surprise that my sims just stays in the table the whole meal. Could it be cause I only have like 8 expansion packs ?
They are releasing a patch to fix various packs, including this one.
I just wish we could work as a waiter/waitress, a more in depth dining experience
i AM SUCH A FOODIE THAT THIS WAS THE FIRST PACK i BOUGHT... and I am now a bit gun-shy to purchase anything else )*
For anyone who has this pack and wants a better experience, rather than trying to get refunded I recommend the dine out reloaded mod by carl’s guide. It makes the pack way less buggy when dining out, plus it gives you the option to play as the the chef or the host or the waiter. It’s free and easy to install and makes the pack actually playable. Sadly though this doesn’t fix the issue for console players or those who don’t or can’t download mods:( I wish ea would fix this pack but instead they will just keep releasing even more broken buggy packs. Ea only cares about a pack before ppl buy it, after they don’t care, they have their money, why fix it? Makes me so disappointed lol.
male shanice will never not scare me
I've just given up on this pack. I don't play this pack without Carl's mod installed. Restaurant's are just unplayable in the sims 4.
Are you going to talk about the possible cancellation of The Sims 5...? 🤔
A LinkedIn page of Maxis' former employee suggests that The Sims 5, or at least its PS5 version, is no more. UPD: An anonymous source close to Maxis has confirmed to me that the rumor is false: the studio is still developing PC and mobile versions of The Sims 5.
The laugh💀 10:15
Dine out been broken for years, I wish they would fix it. This is why I use Carls DineOut mod. And the Fact EA still showing Ads for this pack it diabolical...
Wait- you are suppost to order entree main menu and dessert all at once???
I always order one after another
Nope, you have to order one after the other. You’re doing it right.
I totally agree that this pack is broken. We expect it to work on launch, but nope. We are paying (some of us) for a faulty product...
i don't vibe with like almost anything in this pack but i do love the hairstyle and build mode though
You didn't mentioned thar every character clips through the chairs, the tables and even through the walls.
Carls mod for dine out is the epitome of if they wanted to they would 😂
It's still ridiculous we don't have a pool table in The Sims 4.
When I think about how well and easily restaurants worked in Sims 2. 😢
I'll disagree with you on CAS. As a male simmer, I use the waistcoat and jacket with tie a lot for my formal wear and party wear for adult sims. The full body female outfits function very well on adult and ever elder sims, something that is otherwise lacking. The CAS in this pack is indispensable in my view.
Dining is thoroughly broken though. Thank f. for Carl and his mod.
Very considerate of you to give us the timestamp to skip the entire video.
Hot Date was the best!
Dine Out, or the Archetype of broken gameplay.
If you want a refund, the request and all subsequent communications MUST be in perfect Simlish. That include having a conversation with you speaking fluent Simlish.
Please Satch play with the mod on so we can see! 🙏🏻
oho here we go
The waiters dropping the food gets me soo irritated 😆 I know they’re trying to be quirky and show how the sim has low skill but it’s sooo aggy especially when it’s the 2nd time the order glitched and never came and it finally comes and they drop it and it’s been 10 sim hours like omggg
i reallyyy wanted to buy this pack because it sounds so fun to have my sims go out and eat together but it'd be a terrible waste of money even if i download mods to make the experience bearable
Honestly it isn't so bad as a pack to have an extra date location. However, you cannot feed toddlers with it. They aren't included at all, so keep this in mind should you ever get it and want to take the family out to eat.
Yeah I was about to not get this pack because of the reviews, but it works for me. I wonder if they fixed for when you buy it but can’t fix it with updates??
@@jssfrk161 I think they update it little by little to be sure no big bugs or glitches happen, but overall as a whole the pack hasn't been updated like a refresh or better functionality. It has a lot of lagging and odd interaction. For example your toddlers cannot have food because toddlers were added after the pack came out which never got included. And when your sims get invited they must pay despite being the invited sim.
@@corabeani i had no clue thank you ! 🙏
I have had no big issues with Dine Out, twice I never got served and it was because of the restaurant design it turned out. Got it from the gallery and plopped it in, tweaked a couple things in the build and it works fine. If you wanna do all three courses it will take forever especially since you order each separate. I never do all three courses, a drink and one food item is good enough for me. I pay the bill and leave after that.
I am new to the sims and just bought all the packs so what I want to know instead of using the restaurant table can I use any other table?
sometimes the most complex, is often the most simple...And I will put it like this. "Bad -10/10"
12:20-12:30 I've wondered this too, why dont they just pay the guy who made the mod to fix it for them since they dont want to do it. This mod would of been great date night material or dining gameplay if it worked. I would of bought it and they keep making new shit instead of idk adding updates, bug fixes, like other games do?
Wait, you’re able to actually order multiple things at once? I’ve only been able to order one thing and wait until it’s cleared then order another thing. I always just assumed this was how the pack was supposed to be lol. I could be wrong though.
Oh man, I bought this expansion day one and I felt like the writing was on the wall. I can't believe how long this pack has been broken. And for everyone who says "well mine works!" okay cool? But clearly that's rare. Which is BAD! Even if yours works, you gotta admit, it shouldn't be common for everyone elses to be so broken!
A lot of the "mine works fine" comes from people who have worked out the intricacies of the coding of the pack, which really speaks to how poor the game design is. You shouldn't need to experiment with the game in order to work out how to make it simply function correctly.
I really wish TS4 wasn't so broken ): it really is sad to see