Things that can be learned from this video: - quality ammo certainly helps with rate of fire; oiling the bolt, too - just because a bolt action rifle has a smooth action, made by a reputable company who cares about quality, and does shoot very accurately, it can still bind on you - training and practice certainly helps especially when the action would bind if you do something wrong - a proper stock that doesn't wobble would increase the quality of shooting - the AR's ergonomics and handling are why it is a choice of many civilian shooters even when it is neutered to manual action I have somewhat suspected but never knew that a bigger magazine on a manual action gun is not necessarily that big of an advantage because it is tiring to shoot (though I would actually like to see how it would affect performance). But this is on a static range shooting at a single target; there might be an advantage to have a full magazine in a dynamic situation because there are natural pauses where you switch targets and switch positions. I'm guessing you'll load the magazines to full 30 at Finnish Brutality (IIRC, Ziga loaded to capacity in last year's Lynx Brutality).
I think its fair to say that when you're doing ANYTHING quickly and repeatedly, you desperately want it to be repeatable more than anything else. So having wobble, flex, and not quite identical force needed on the bolt is a deathknell. Straight pulls (of any sort) are always going to be great for this sort of thing simple because even if they do get sticky, yanking harder is much easier to handle than having to get the bolt rotated just the right amount.
Sorry to be the safety nanny but about the bent glasses from your hand slipping off the bolt : this should be a nice reminder to get yourself some shooting glasses with prescription inserts :-) I was lazy and didn’t want to pay for them for years, go through ordering the special inserts, and just brushed it off because one day I’ll get lasik etc. One day my SAFN 49 had an out of battery detonation (as they are famous for) and exploded in the hands of my friend who was shooting it. No injuries except a brass fragment that lightly cut his forehead, and he was wearing eye pro. Was a real chilling warning that it could have been me and my eyes behind that rifle... Again, sorry for the annoying comment, but seeing how you have an audience, it could encourage other people to make the step too and finally wear eye pro!
I found my Howa Mini Action was excellent for mad minute shooting, after a good break in and using a larger bolt handle. The tiny bolt throw helps alot.
It seems like the thing that determines how slick a bolt will be at speed isn’t how nicely it freely slides, but how much contact it has with the receiver wall. The Mauser and Enfield both have a ton of contact and so the bolt tells you where it wants to go at all times. The mosin is out of spec and most of the time it can gum up because its contact is much less secure. The tikka looks like it only has the bolt lugs securing it, so I’d imagine it can gum up during speed firing
I think this a modern manufacturing issue. Most modern bolt guns lock up at the front and have very loose bolt throws for sand resistance and reduction of manufacturing costs. My CZ mini-Mauser has a tendency to bind the bolt in "mad minute" exercises but is smooth as greased glass if I close the bolt with my thumb on the cocking piece.
James Paris Lee, my dude. It wasn't his fault that Lee-Enfield had to use .303 ammo, and everything else on the Lee is flat out better than the Mausers of the era. If you take Lee's lockwork and attach it to a rimless 7mm cartridge, you would get an absolute beauty of a rifle that would match Mauser accuracy and have the Lee better ergonomics, while being cheaper than a straight pull.
I have never thought that 30 round magazines were a particularly good idea on bolt guns. It's heartening that the British Ordinance Board came to a similar if better articulated conclusion. I am surprised that CZ doesn't make an offside cheekpiece for the 600 Trail for lefties and hot swaps.
The Tikka bolt binding reminds me of my Savage Mark IIs - specifically, one of them had, I think (it's long been sold), a Parkerized finish on the bolt, which caused it to easily bind up if there was any downward pressure when cycling the bolt. The lower friction polished/blued finish on my other Mark II bolts caused no such issue.
An experiment you can try at home is to tape a laser pointer to yard stick, then put a piece of painters tape on the farthest wall in your house, and set your phone up close to the "target." Start the phone recording a video then go to the other side of the room and try to just hold the laser on target. .
Id love to see this done with some modern hunting straight pull rifles like the beretta bxr1 or blaser r8 or the savage impulse. See how they stack up to the swiss military straight pulls.
Mid Forties you say.... Mid Sixties here and just did my mad minute (it was quite mad) with my 1898 Krag carbine... in .30 Krag no less. Got 16 0ff without the odd punch in the face. ^~^
Hi! What you say about the bolt binding on the Tikka T3x Arctic is quite interesting to me. I am in no way happy you experience this, but now I know I am not alone having this issue on a Tikka T3x. I bought two Tikkas recently; T3x Super Varmint Cerakote in .223 Rem and 6,5x55 SE with fluted bolt.. And the bolt binds as soon as you put some force on it, like on a fast reload with downpressure bringing the bolt forward (which works like a charm on my Mauser k98k from 1941) :) The Norwegian importer says there is nothing to do with it. Quite disappointing really, because the smooth gliding bolt on my older Tikka T3 Super Varmint was a huge factor when I decided to buy 2x Tikka again. Do you know if there is anything I can do to mitigate this binding of the bolt?
The metal-on-metal sounds cycling that Schmeisser would have me bonkers after a bit. Ok, I'm "used to" (mostly) buffer "sproing" but that's just a different sort of sound.
I've got a Ruger American Ranch in 300BLK, which is the ducks nuts for mad minute shooting. It's such a cheap rifle, and felt rough as all hell out of the box. But once broken in it slicked up to a ridiculous degree. 70 degree both throw as well. You cnlan be damn fast with it.
It would have been very interesting to have seen a Lee Enfield included in this 'group test' as a 'par' or means of assessing how well the new rifles work but even so this is another great video!
Would have been nice to see modern lever action (not current production of old designes) and pump action ( with and without trigger disconnect) rifles together with them in this mad minute competition.
@@BlokeontheRange Can you elaborate on how certain actions are more conducive to certain types of cartridges like lever action for mostly revolver type cartridges. Pump for shotguns and bolt action for rimless-spitzer type bullets. Why are lever or bolt action shotguns not that prolific ? Why more developmental effort not done in lever action to alleviate its deficiencies. Like the bloke who made the belt feed bullpup .357 magnum lever action. Of course it's an extreme example but Savage model 99 can be considered an ideal old lever action. It is hammerless and fires rounds powerful enough to be considered a predecessor to modern .308 while having magzine which can take spitzer bullets. The guy I mentioned above also made a conventionally configured detachable magazine lever action where the action goes front and back so it can be fired from prone.
@@BlokeontheRangeHow about doing mad minute for pump and lever action from kneeling or standing then, although it might be less accurate but it will remedy the problem of firing from the prone.
@@TakNuke You've already touched on most of the reasons why lever actions weren't taken seriously by militaries - The word you are missing is "eventually". The Savage 99 is, as the name implies, the model of 1899, only coming to market after the Mauser 98 and Lee-Enfield were already in service and being made in their hundreds of thousands. And for most of their developmental history, lever actions weren't able to handle spitzers, or high pressure cartridges. Which a time traveller might not have cared about, because as it turns out those big full power rifle cartridges were not all that useful, but at the time militaries did care about it and that was pretty much that. I bet that they would do alright shooting mad minutes, assuming the action was good, but I also can't help feeling that you would end up bouncing your sight picture around too much to be amongst the best. For pump action - A lot of the same stuff here too, but more so. Much like lever actions, pump systems couldn't handle high pressure early on, and early forms had tube magazines that weren't good for spitzers. And working the pump with the support hand is definitely more disruptive to your shooting. With a bolt or lever action, you support the rifle between your shoulder and support hand, and work the bolt in the middle, so as long as you keep hold of it there isn't much leverage. But with a pump you have the gun supported by your shoulder and your trigger hand, and the pump is out ahead, which makes your hand into the fulcrum, and now there is a big lever to yank your sights around with.
@lostalone9320 Bolt actions by their design have much more positive extraction of sticky cartridges than lever actions or pumps. 9-Hole Reviews did a good demonstration of a Winchester 1895 in 7.62x54r. One of the biggest issues with the gun was the gun getting hot and having extraction problems on the practical accuracy course. The only pump guns I have used are shotguns. Even with their relatively low pressure rounds they have extraction problems when hot. Pump centerfire rifles have never had but a tiny following and I suspect that is why.
for optics for a speedy bolty boy, I'm currently favouring the primary arms prism GLX 2x, just enough magnification to make a difference, and very light weight. Superior to the SLx prism line in terms of optical quality as well.
Very interesting results. I've just bought a Southern Gun Company (retro) AR instead of the CZ600 trail. It was definitely not an easy decision, but I don't think I could have gone wrong either way.
I'm a bit surprised by the Tikka's performance. I have a 1st gen T3 with a blued receiver, and the action is super slick and non-binding. I wonder whether there is more friction in the stainless receivers. Love these videos, thanks!
I have a Tikka T3 Varmint Stainless from 2012. Do not know if this is first gen or not. BUT the bolt is perfect! No binding under stress fire. I have not done a mad minute, but I have shot 100 rounds during 45 minutes at a company where you fire at a screen, where hogs/deer/elk are running from right to left, and the video stops and shows the POI after the shot is taken. No binding. BUT my new Tikka T3x Super Varmint Cerakote with fluted bolt on the other hand, the bolt is binding up with even a little force applied
I have the same rifle, T3 artic. No binding at all for me. Even with fast shooting. Oiled bolt. Very smooth. Tried very fast dry fire after watching this with 4th finger on trigger:no probleme. The rifle is just back from the range. Still not cleaned. Fired around 60 rnds.
I find the polished fluted bolt on t3x supervarm and roughtech is a lot better, also change to a longer bolt handle that's closer to the trigger guard helps
Would it be at all useful, though? AR collapsible buttstocks are kind of wobbly themselves and don't collapse nearly as short. If you don't like that buttstock you will not like the rifle. Save your money and leave the guns to folks who see the need for those features.
I think M4 stock is definitely the way to go for your purposes with the CZ. The MP5 stock seems great in theory, but based on your various videos on the rifle it seems limiting to your consistency. With the Tikka, I'm genuinely curious if it'd be a more consistent reload with the plastic T3 magazine bottom metal rather than their metal mags. Don't know how possible that conversion is, and sadly they don't make a standard T3 with irons to my knowledge. The bolt on both Ruger Americans that I've owned has the same problem of sticking when any non-linear force is applied to it, I'm curious if there's any sort of lapping one could do to smooth that out With how stiff both bolts seemed to be, I think this really was a great selling point for cock-on-close actions. I'm curious if there's any adjustment that can be done to the springs of either rifle or if that'd put them a little too close to the edge of reliability
Have you ever had your hands on a Remington 700 with the stripper clip guide? USMC M40 sniper rifles all originally had it and it was used to install scope mounts more securely.
I have a CTR in 6.5, quite similar to the C-19 though I wish it came with the aperture sights, also a 42 Lithgow, the SMLE eats the tikka for breakfast when it comes to flinging lead down range, and the price of those tikka 10rd mags is poison! I do really love the Tikka for an all rounder but seriously wish you could top load the mags but those feed lips make it impossible! If I could have only 1 it would be my Lithgow and my bandoliers full of charger clips.
I have 6.5 in CTR as well. While that action is very smooth compared to stock Remington 700 / Mauser actions, Lee action is still quicker and most importantly it doesn’t tend to stick even if you are not perfect with it.
When you look at Stang-shooting in National matches, the civillian Sauer shooters and the Homeguard G3 shooters have all only 5 rounds in the magazine. This is a stiff upper lip slave to abide to the rules as set to the time of the bolt action era. Had the Homeguard been allowed to load to capacity as the Krag and Sauer shooters, the result would always turn in favour of the G3. The DFS or National Shooting Association were banned to include 5.56/223 some years ago, because it was stated to be a terrorist caliber.
if tolerances are good when its cool and sticky still with better ammo and a bit of oil i saw it still was sticking somewhat,,,, as heat expands perhaps taking some material in the right place would prevent that
HK91 buttstocks are plenty rigid but heavy as He'll. Easily a kilogram heavier than the polymer fixed buttstock. Training helps. But remember that the "mad minute" has had no real purpose for over 100 years.
No. The stock on that gun wobbles if you don't have it held firmly against the shoulder. I suspect that the lighter recoil of the .223 guns over the 7.62x39 guns leads to a bit sloppier handling of them.
Have I missed a video where you guys have made a compilation of all the submitted 1MADL's and commented on them or atleast show them? Also, what distance was that range.
Is the compactness of the CZ stock when collapsed worth the instability when shooting? I don't think I could tolerate that wobble, and I also have visions of a couple of broken buttstocks in Finland brutality.
That's the ISO international standard date format. Nothing wrong with it, especially if you're recording something for official purposes (like an international competition, for example).
Excellent run. Been waiting for your attempt at the mad minute with T3x Arctic since you bought it all these years ago and was curious how it would compare to SMLE or No 4. Am I seeing it wrong or do I see that you are having to move your head out of the way more than the Lees?
I think you biased this, over anything... specially where you are heading ... from those specially Tikka having no scope (jeesus kill me now) I would take the middle one.. since the CZ will get dirty sooner than you think and then again you having loading issues
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Things that can be learned from this video:
- quality ammo certainly helps with rate of fire; oiling the bolt, too
- just because a bolt action rifle has a smooth action, made by a reputable company who cares about quality, and does shoot very accurately, it can still bind on you
- training and practice certainly helps especially when the action would bind if you do something wrong
- a proper stock that doesn't wobble would increase the quality of shooting
- the AR's ergonomics and handling are why it is a choice of many civilian shooters even when it is neutered to manual action
I have somewhat suspected but never knew that a bigger magazine on a manual action gun is not necessarily that big of an advantage because it is tiring to shoot (though I would actually like to see how it would affect performance). But this is on a static range shooting at a single target; there might be an advantage to have a full magazine in a dynamic situation because there are natural pauses where you switch targets and switch positions. I'm guessing you'll load the magazines to full 30 at Finnish Brutality (IIRC, Ziga loaded to capacity in last year's Lynx Brutality).
I think its fair to say that when you're doing ANYTHING quickly and repeatedly, you desperately want it to be repeatable more than anything else. So having wobble, flex, and not quite identical force needed on the bolt is a deathknell. Straight pulls (of any sort) are always going to be great for this sort of thing simple because even if they do get sticky, yanking harder is much easier to handle than having to get the bolt rotated just the right amount.
Sorry to be the safety nanny but about the bent glasses from your hand slipping off the bolt : this should be a nice reminder to get yourself some shooting glasses with prescription inserts :-) I was lazy and didn’t want to pay for them for years, go through ordering the special inserts, and just brushed it off because one day I’ll get lasik etc. One day my SAFN 49 had an out of battery detonation (as they are famous for) and exploded in the hands of my friend who was shooting it. No injuries except a brass fragment that lightly cut his forehead, and he was wearing eye pro. Was a real chilling warning that it could have been me and my eyes behind that rifle... Again, sorry for the annoying comment, but seeing how you have an audience, it could encourage other people to make the step too and finally wear eye pro!
I found my Howa Mini Action was excellent for mad minute shooting, after a good break in and using a larger bolt handle. The tiny bolt throw helps alot.
It seems like the thing that determines how slick a bolt will be at speed isn’t how nicely it freely slides, but how much contact it has with the receiver wall. The Mauser and Enfield both have a ton of contact and so the bolt tells you where it wants to go at all times. The mosin is out of spec and most of the time it can gum up because its contact is much less secure. The tikka looks like it only has the bolt lugs securing it, so I’d imagine it can gum up during speed firing
I think this a modern manufacturing issue. Most modern bolt guns lock up at the front and have very loose bolt throws for sand resistance and reduction of manufacturing costs. My CZ mini-Mauser has a tendency to bind the bolt in "mad minute" exercises but is smooth as greased glass if I close the bolt with my thumb on the cocking piece.
This video was super cool, i really like the scope cam!
Amazing how well the #4 stands the test of time... Looks like the Schneider, with an "ideal' bolt handle position would be very fast.
James Paris Lee, my dude. It wasn't his fault that Lee-Enfield had to use .303 ammo, and everything else on the Lee is flat out better than the Mausers of the era. If you take Lee's lockwork and attach it to a rimless 7mm cartridge, you would get an absolute beauty of a rifle that would match Mauser accuracy and have the Lee better ergonomics, while being cheaper than a straight pull.
@@lostalone9320
> that would match Mauser accuracy
Lee-Enfild dispersion acceptance limits were tighter than Mauser acceptance limits.
@@lostalone9320 Mausers, especially WW1/2 era service rifle mausers, are not especially accurate rifles
the Mad Minute is back
Mad minutes are back on the menu boys
I have never thought that 30 round magazines were a particularly good idea on bolt guns. It's heartening that the British Ordinance Board came to a similar if better articulated conclusion. I am surprised that CZ doesn't make an offside cheekpiece for the 600 Trail for lefties and hot swaps.
Superb shooting technique plus excellent stamina. Well done.
The Tikka bolt binding reminds me of my Savage Mark IIs - specifically, one of them had, I think (it's long been sold), a Parkerized finish on the bolt, which caused it to easily bind up if there was any downward pressure when cycling the bolt. The lower friction polished/blued finish on my other Mark II bolts caused no such issue.
Nope that's bunk a Parkerized finish on many a production rifle is often a coverup for poor machining and QC. After all it's a Salvage.
As a non-shooter that triggercam really showed how much the wobble impacted the point of aim down range. Really cool to see it in action like that!
You may experience it yourself with binoculars.
An experiment you can try at home is to tape a laser pointer to yard stick, then put a piece of painters tape on the farthest wall in your house, and set your phone up close to the "target." Start the phone recording a video then go to the other side of the room and try to just hold the laser on target. .
Id love to see this done with some modern hunting straight pull rifles like the beretta bxr1 or blaser r8 or the savage impulse. See how they stack up to the swiss military straight pulls.
Re: the TIkka, It's stainless, that's what stainless does. Binds.
Put some Wurth HH500 on it and see how it goes.
Mid Forties you say.... Mid Sixties here and just did my mad minute (it was quite mad) with my 1898 Krag carbine... in .30 Krag no less. Got 16 0ff without the odd punch in the face. ^~^
That Schmeisser sounds like a metal file crossed with a spring door stop. But it does seem slick
Hi! What you say about the bolt binding on the Tikka T3x Arctic is quite interesting to me. I am in no way happy you experience this, but now I know I am not alone having this issue on a Tikka T3x. I bought two Tikkas recently; T3x Super Varmint Cerakote in .223 Rem and 6,5x55 SE with fluted bolt.. And the bolt binds as soon as you put some force on it, like on a fast reload with downpressure bringing the bolt forward (which works like a charm on my Mauser k98k from 1941) :) The Norwegian importer says there is nothing to do with it. Quite disappointing really, because the smooth gliding bolt on my older Tikka T3 Super Varmint was a huge factor when I decided to buy 2x Tikka again. Do you know if there is anything I can do to mitigate this binding of the bolt?
The metal-on-metal sounds cycling that Schmeisser would have me bonkers after a bit. Ok, I'm "used to" (mostly) buffer "sproing" but that's just a different sort of sound.
Interesting... I need to watch it a couple more times...
I've got a Ruger American Ranch in 300BLK, which is the ducks nuts for mad minute shooting.
It's such a cheap rifle, and felt rough as all hell out of the box. But once broken in it slicked up to a ridiculous degree.
70 degree both throw as well. You cnlan be damn fast with it.
It would have been very interesting to have seen a Lee Enfield included in this 'group test' as a 'par' or means of assessing how well the new rifles work but even so this is another great video!
Would have been nice to see modern lever action (not current production of old designes) and pump action ( with and without trigger disconnect) rifles together with them in this mad minute competition.
I don't have either of those. The pump would be terrible though, I can tell you that for a start...
@@BlokeontheRange Can you elaborate on how certain actions are more conducive to certain types of cartridges like lever action for mostly revolver type cartridges. Pump for shotguns and bolt action for rimless-spitzer type bullets. Why are lever or bolt action shotguns not that prolific ? Why more developmental effort not done in lever action to alleviate its deficiencies. Like the bloke who made the belt feed bullpup .357 magnum lever action. Of course it's an extreme example but Savage model 99 can be considered an ideal old lever action. It is hammerless and fires rounds powerful enough to be considered a predecessor to modern .308 while having magzine which can take spitzer bullets. The guy I mentioned above also made a conventionally configured detachable magazine lever action where the action goes front and back so it can be fired from prone.
@@BlokeontheRangeHow about doing mad minute for pump and lever action from kneeling or standing then, although it might be less accurate but it will remedy the problem of firing from the prone.
@@TakNuke You've already touched on most of the reasons why lever actions weren't taken seriously by militaries - The word you are missing is "eventually". The Savage 99 is, as the name implies, the model of 1899, only coming to market after the Mauser 98 and Lee-Enfield were already in service and being made in their hundreds of thousands. And for most of their developmental history, lever actions weren't able to handle spitzers, or high pressure cartridges. Which a time traveller might not have cared about, because as it turns out those big full power rifle cartridges were not all that useful, but at the time militaries did care about it and that was pretty much that. I bet that they would do alright shooting mad minutes, assuming the action was good, but I also can't help feeling that you would end up bouncing your sight picture around too much to be amongst the best.
For pump action - A lot of the same stuff here too, but more so. Much like lever actions, pump systems couldn't handle high pressure early on, and early forms had tube magazines that weren't good for spitzers. And working the pump with the support hand is definitely more disruptive to your shooting. With a bolt or lever action, you support the rifle between your shoulder and support hand, and work the bolt in the middle, so as long as you keep hold of it there isn't much leverage. But with a pump you have the gun supported by your shoulder and your trigger hand, and the pump is out ahead, which makes your hand into the fulcrum, and now there is a big lever to yank your sights around with.
@lostalone9320 Bolt actions by their design have much more positive extraction of sticky cartridges than lever actions or pumps. 9-Hole Reviews did a good demonstration of a Winchester 1895 in 7.62x54r. One of the biggest issues with the gun was the gun getting hot and having extraction problems on the practical accuracy course. The only pump guns I have used are shotguns. Even with their relatively low pressure rounds they have extraction problems when hot. Pump centerfire rifles have never had but a tiny following and I suspect that is why.
Late to the party, but I have to commend the French pun in "Kudu Tir."
There was, and only ever will be, one Sgt Intructor Snoxall.
Real name: Snoxell :)
@@BlokeontheRange Headcannon name: Snorlaxell
Mad!... The Bloke is positively Mad I say......
Great video.
for optics for a speedy bolty boy, I'm currently favouring the primary arms prism GLX 2x, just enough magnification to make a difference, and very light weight. Superior to the SLx prism line in terms of optical quality as well.
The ones with the 7.62x39 reticle work pretty well on AK's. Got them on both my 7.62x39 bolt guns.
I was thinking of manufacturing a scaled down lee Enfield chambered in 5.56 using stanag mags and to use striper clips!
You should definitely grab an magpul RLS sling, it will change your life
Very interesting results. I've just bought a Southern Gun Company (retro) AR instead of the CZ600 trail. It was definitely not an easy decision, but I don't think I could have gone wrong either way.
I'm a bit surprised by the Tikka's performance. I have a 1st gen T3 with a blued receiver, and the action is super slick and non-binding. I wonder whether there is more friction in the stainless receivers. Love these videos, thanks!
I have a Tikka T3 Varmint Stainless from 2012. Do not know if this is first gen or not. BUT the bolt is perfect! No binding under stress fire. I have not done a mad minute, but I have shot 100 rounds during 45 minutes at a company where you fire at a screen, where hogs/deer/elk are running from right to left, and the video stops and shows the POI after the shot is taken. No binding. BUT my new Tikka T3x Super Varmint Cerakote with fluted bolt on the other hand, the bolt is binding up with even a little force applied
I have the same rifle, T3 artic. No binding at all for me. Even with fast shooting. Oiled bolt. Very smooth. Tried very fast dry fire after watching this with 4th finger on trigger:no probleme. The rifle is just back from the range. Still not cleaned. Fired around 60 rnds.
I've found that Dura Lub does a good job on slicking up an action.
I find the polished fluted bolt on t3x supervarm and roughtech is a lot better, also change to a longer bolt handle that's closer to the trigger guard helps
"What larks Pip!" That looks like lots of fun. Hope the glasses got fixed! (I realise this is an old vid, but it just popped up on my feed) 😊
Modified stock for the trail would be nice to take a ar butt stock. Def would help with the play.
Would it be at all useful, though? AR collapsible buttstocks are kind of wobbly themselves and don't collapse nearly as short. If you don't like that buttstock you will not like the rifle. Save your money and leave the guns to folks who see the need for those features.
For the cz replace the stop bolts in the stock with longer ones and tighten when extended. This will get rid of the wobble.
Kind of defeats the purpose of a collapsible buttstock don't you think. The wobble is easily dealt with by training.
I think M4 stock is definitely the way to go for your purposes with the CZ. The MP5 stock seems great in theory, but based on your various videos on the rifle it seems limiting to your consistency.
With the Tikka, I'm genuinely curious if it'd be a more consistent reload with the plastic T3 magazine bottom metal rather than their metal mags. Don't know how possible that conversion is, and sadly they don't make a standard T3 with irons to my knowledge. The bolt on both Ruger Americans that I've owned has the same problem of sticking when any non-linear force is applied to it, I'm curious if there's any sort of lapping one could do to smooth that out
With how stiff both bolts seemed to be, I think this really was a great selling point for cock-on-close actions. I'm curious if there's any adjustment that can be done to the springs of either rifle or if that'd put them a little too close to the edge of reliability
Those tikkas are sweet
S.M.L.E. wins and isn't even there.
Huzzah
Have you ever had your hands on a Remington 700 with the stripper clip guide? USMC M40 sniper rifles all originally had it and it was used to install scope mounts more securely.
I don't like the noise the straight-pull AR action makes, the noise of apparently somewhat rough turned surfaces rubbing together upsets me.
I've got a straight pull AR vid from 8 years ago. It's well worn, less scratchy. I like the sound of the slight "crunchiness" of the magazine feed.
I have a CTR in 6.5, quite similar to the C-19 though I wish it came with the aperture sights, also a 42 Lithgow, the SMLE eats the tikka for breakfast when it comes to flinging lead down range, and the price of those tikka 10rd mags is poison! I do really love the Tikka for an all rounder but seriously wish you could top load the mags but those feed lips make it impossible! If I could have only 1 it would be my Lithgow and my bandoliers full of charger clips.
I have 6.5 in CTR as well. While that action is very smooth compared to stock Remington 700 / Mauser actions, Lee action is still quicker and most importantly it doesn’t tend to stick even if you are not perfect with it.
I don't know how hard it would be to source one but I would love to see you try the mad minute with a Fuchs double barrel bolt action.
When you look at Stang-shooting in National matches, the civillian Sauer shooters and the Homeguard G3 shooters have all only 5 rounds in the magazine. This is a stiff upper lip slave to abide to the rules as set to the time of the bolt action era. Had the Homeguard been allowed to load to capacity as the Krag and Sauer shooters, the result would always turn in favour of the G3. The DFS or National Shooting Association were banned to include 5.56/223 some years ago, because it was stated to be a terrorist caliber.
if tolerances are good when its cool and sticky still with better ammo and a bit of oil i saw it still was sticking somewhat,,,, as heat expands perhaps taking some material in the right place would prevent that
It didn't stick at all at Finnish Brutality
How about the savage impulse?
Are there any examples similar to that CZ buttstock design that work?
HK91 buttstocks are plenty rigid but heavy as He'll. Easily a kilogram heavier than the polymer fixed buttstock. Training helps. But remember that the "mad minute" has had no real purpose for over 100 years.
I wonder if the camera aboard the CZ made it a little top heavy which contributed to the wobble?
No. The stock on that gun wobbles if you don't have it held firmly against the shoulder. I suspect that the lighter recoil of the .223 guns over the 7.62x39 guns leads to a bit sloppier handling of them.
the stock is absolute shit, and that is pretty new rifle..
I love my C19 more than my own mother
Have you tried the BRX1 from Beretta?
Have I missed a video where you guys have made a compilation of all the submitted 1MADL's and commented on them or atleast show them? Also, what distance was that range.
I would love a Trail in 6.8spc & one in 22 Hornet
Hi Bloke, do you have a link or any info to the people you mentioned, who modified the stock? Thanks in advance.
Do you recommend me to buy a cz 600 trail?
Is the compactness of the CZ stock when collapsed worth the instability when shooting? I don't think I could tolerate that wobble, and I also have visions of a couple of broken buttstocks in Finland brutality.
accuracy over volume is the most common trick in here Finland
Is this rifle suppressor ready?
Yes
Did anyone tried to do that with a Heym SR30 or a Verney-Carron Speedline One?
6:48 my fellow bespectacled individuals feel this
Some of those rifles are fine, some are rather ...odd? Is the Bloke into some kind och rifle masochism? Rifle in furs?
Can you fix the date on the timer pls? It bugs me haha
That's the ISO international standard date format. Nothing wrong with it, especially if you're recording something for official purposes (like an international competition, for example).
Can we get an MG42 on a tripod mad minute?
So... mechanical sights are the best 😅
Flash Sight Picture. Indeed.
Excellent run. Been waiting for your attempt at the mad minute with T3x Arctic since you bought it all these years ago and was curious how it would compare to SMLE or No 4. Am I seeing it wrong or do I see that you are having to move your head out of the way more than the Lees?
Yup, the bolt throw is much longer.
Went back to the old video's you were using chargers for reloading not magazines. S.M.L.E hurrah.
I'd not shim the Trail Stock cause it's not a Finnish Brutality is someone's Butt doesn't drop off.
Tex Arctic Spice Tail 🤔🤷♂️😅
Sorry it's Dura Lube.
I'm just leaving this here for The Algorithm to notice.
Why are you wearing a dry suit?
It's a shooting jacket, not a dry suit.
Take away: bolt actions are obsolete.
Lesson here is that modern guns aren’t a good as old ones.
I think you biased this, over anything... specially where you are heading ... from those specially Tikka having no scope (jeesus kill me now) I would take the middle one.. since the CZ will get dirty sooner than you think and then again you having loading issues