Kyrie has literally done shit since 2016 when his teammate was arguably the greatest player ever in his prime… speaks volumes about how fucking overrated kyrie is.
@@biyrdieit’s plenty of players dat were not first options who are on top 75😂, dame complaining bout more credit but not realizing he snubbed some people out for the top75
@@stingabee123 honestly it’s quite a few I could go with. Especially between the 50s n 70s. Go look at that list n tell me it’s not one guy Dwight should replace
I wouldn't gaf who they took off but Dwight not being up there is clear blackballed stuff. Dwight deserves to be up there more than Dame. Off the top of my head he's a 4x dmvp, multiple time rebounding champ and led a team to the finals as the best player and leader AS A defensive player.. that def pissed me off
Dame gets the proper amount of credit he deserves. TBH, he gets a little more than he deserved because he was named Top 75, and someone like Dwight Howard was more deserving
U trippin.. Dwight was better than most of the old top 50 greatest players. So scratch one of them.. he wasn't better than Dame. We was an athletic version on Rudy Gobert honestly. Even Rudy won defensive player of the year awards & he ass
Re adjusting he a brown fan acting like brown made kyrie that’s why kyrie left he seen how it was going he was about to be lil bro or Mario charmers lol naw bro you hit the biggest clutch shot in nba history
This why Draymond calls his segment “Champions Only” got a lot of people on the other side of the fence giving wild opinions who ain’t won nothing on this pod 😂
Chris Paul has been a better PG than Dame. He took OKC to the playoffs when they had no expectations of making it, and then took the Suns to the Finals - scoring 41 in closing Western Conf Finals game
The fact ppl constantly say he doesn't deserve top 75 is proof he's underrated. Here are some facts: -Dame is tied with MJ for the most series ending buzzer beaters. -He is tied for 3rd in playoff game winners. -He is the goat from 35ft+ statistically. -He is 4th all-time in career FT%. -He's not just a deep shooter, he was an elite dunker in his prime who even did a dunk contest. -He won the 3pt contest in back to back years. -He's somewhere between top 2-5 best shooter ever by most accounts yet top 75 is crazy? -He has the 2nd most efficient 70pt game ever. -From 2018 to 2021, in winshares Dame was 4th, 4th, 2nd, and 3rd in the league. -Dame has averaged 30pts+ multiple times both in the regular season, and in the playoffs.
This is what I’m saying! He’s top 75 and still hasn’t won anything, lives in the first round and second round of the playoffs. NBA is about winning and I’m not saying he needs to win a championship every year but winning MVPs, scoring titles, getting to the conference finals and finals is what matters. Everyone can shoot as good as him, everyone can score as good as him. Bro is good player that’s in the top 75. Either add to your legacy or just continue to do what you’re doing now.
Thank you 😂 kyrie is amazing but dame is a better leader than kyrie & equally clutch if you ask me. If dame had bron they would’ve done atleast the same or better
Key word when he play. He's either hurt or sitting out from suspension or on his own . Kyrie played with LEBRON JAMES KEVIN LOVE JASON TATUM JALEN BROWN GORDON HAYWARD TERRY ROZIER JAMES HARDEN KEVIN DURANT LUKA WITH 1 CHAMPIONSHIP IS CRAZY WORK AINT NO DAMN WAY YOU ONLY GET 1 TAKE LEBRON AWAY AND HE HAS NON . L9VE KYRIE BUT HE MISSED SO MUCH TIME ON THE COURT . WHEN HE WAS WITH CLEVELAND HE WAS NECK AND NECK WITH CURRY NOW THATS CRAZY TO COMPARE THE 2
@antoniobonebeatz he barely played with them as u said was injured first year with Tatum n Brown cut it but I hear u n u didn't say Gordon Hayward lmaoooo that's like me saying Dame played with Nic Butaum or whateva lol Cj underrated and Aldridge was one of best bigs in league jus saying n ok Dame played with Greek freak now n couldn't get out first imagine if Kai n Bron or Luka didn't make it out first round like last year was killing them crazy work playing with another star off ball or sharing is very underrated skill some can't
He has a point we have players who have accomplished more and don’t get enough pub fuck is you talking about if that’s the case we need to praise James more and so many others he got cheated a couple yrs so what there’s plenty players who didn’t get what he got he got top 75 over players way more accomplished then him he played in the west suck it up
Dame had a chance to change the whole narrative around him in 2019 conference finals. When they faced the warriors without KD. Dame and CJ choked and couldn’t win 1 game
Dame can't talk about no credit, when he hasn't won anything, not even made the finals and made the Top 75 team over DWIGHT FCKN HOWARD. I don't even know whst i have to say about the fact that Jokic ain't there as well...
In the end, it doesn`t matter. Jokic will go down as probably a top 10 (-15) player to ever play the game. He is already Top 10 in my book, when it comes to the way plays. The numbers will follow, if he at least plays till he is 33-34 years old.
Conference finals… ina conference with lebron james, jokic, prime westbrook and PG, harden, and Curry/Klay… Without playing with another all star. Its a big achievement
@@remnant8898 so lets ignore dame torching denver so much in game 1 that they started picking him up full court and constantly doubling him which created a lot of open looks for his teammates. Denver’s plan was to force someone else to beat them by over focusing dame and CJ took advantage of that. Boxscore watcher
Kyrie is more disrespected than Dame. Kyrie helped the Cavs get to several NBA Finals, hit a Game 7 winning shot, and helped a team come back from 3-1 while averaging 27.1 ppg and gets zero credit. The only reason why Dame is so beloved is because he is a "safe player" meaning that his winning and losing doesn't impact anyone else's legacy. Kyrie is a "legacy impactful" player because him helping Lebron has to be ignored to push a narrative that Lebron won on his own and him leaving Cleveland made him hated because it directly impacted an NBA Finals calibre team. Dame just goes out there and scores, nothing more. Dame's wins and losses dont affect anyone, but if he were beating your favorite player in the Finals you'd hate him which is precisely why Gil hates on Curry, who has done more than Dame, because Curry's success affected Lebron and Gil is obsessed with Lebron James. Had Curry gotten his rings against someone OTHER than Lebron, he'd have no haters. Case in point, people are salty about Curry's 2015, 2017, and 2018 but everyone supported him in 2022. Wonder why? 🤔 Because that time, he defeated someone other than Lebron so it was "safer" for his haters to cheer for him that specific year. This is similar to people trying to downplay Jordan because Jordan's greatness is a direct threat to their favorite players because his success directly caused other stars not to win, changing the trajectory of careers and NBA histort, and newer players get compared to him. If Jordan were just dropping 30 a game and not winning much, the new generation who hate on him literally wouldnt exist just like how you will never see people hating on guys like George Gervin because their stats didn't impact other players historically.
@crimsoncoconut2421 He's got a point. Portland winning barely affected anyone legacy. The big legacies of the 2010's are Lebron's, KD's & Curry's. Had they won golden state with KD down, they could've affected shit.
Dame has been the man on his team for years. The difference is Kyrie always has another star next to him and that takes away from his individual accolades. Kyrie is definitely a star guard deserving of a chance to lead a team, but I think that's not in the cards for him anymore.
kyrie also messed up demanding a trade going to Boston and them guys getting a ring without him. u have to tell that part of his story as well. Dame was ion the west leading his team with another small guard in CJ as his sidekick going to the playoffs having to face Golden St
@nmpiars8936 now let's be real if Kai teamed up with Bron n didn't get out first round first year like Dame n Giannis he even made it out first with Kd they would kill his legacy more like last year when him n Luka didn't playing half the season killed him for that
He’s the Black Skip Bayless…. Found his gimmick and the best part is he doesn’t even have to follow the game that closely to pump out brain dead takes all day
Mccants “kyrie has done more than Dame” when he’s not close to Dame in accolades that y’all always kill Dame for not having. Exact example of why Dame still feel disrespected
No Assist title, No Scoring title, No MVPs, No Finals "APPEARANCES", 1 Conf Finals which you were SWEPT, you're not now nor ever have been the best @your position! He'll be remembered for tappin his wrist & sending home Playoff-P 💯
Kyrie’s only trips to the finals have been as a #2. Every year that he was a #1 he accomplished absolutely nothing. From 2014-2021 the Blazers were the only team in the NBA that made the playoffs every year. And that was because of Dame.
@Paper1Planes #1... #2... I'm not about to play the Batman vs Robin game w/you🤣 All I know is Kyrie has multiple Finals Appearances & it's not like dude was a 6th-Man. He was their closer💯 Buuuuuuuuuut what great love does Kyrie get btw lol you had to compare Dame to Kyrie!? Dame isn't Steph, Dame is CP3, hell Dame isn't even Trae Young (@least he was the 2nd player ever in NBA History to lead the league in total points & assist in 21-22) & @least won a game in the Conference Finals, in his only visit there 48pts 11asst. & Trae has been short-changed far more than Dame
Oakland Legend. Career average of 25. Dame averages more points, assists, rebounds, has made all NBA 1st team, has 6 more NBA 2nd team honors and has more career points. WTF are yall talking about? Lol you guys proved his point exactly.
Somebody tell McCants that someone who either lost in the first round or missed the playoffs entirely for 15 straight years isn't a top 75 player; stop saying McGrady's name.
There’s no way in hell Kyrie Irving had a better career than Damian Lillard. He’s had a way more flashy career, had a great final series and has been in the public eye way more, but as far as an individual NBA career Damian Lillard clears. Dame was consistently greater for longer and was the leader of a team that went to the conference finals in the competitive west.
Finally somebody spoke the truth and that is really all the this convo boils down to. Kyrie gets to jump more productive/ carrying the franchise pg's because of popularity based off how it looks. Kyrie gets credit for the potential of what he could do compared to what he actually puts on the stat sheet. Dame, Trae, Shai, Ja, Fox and Brunson are all more productive pg's with more responsibility that get less recognition. As supremely talented as Kyrie is and could've been, facts are he has been a glorified Robin for the majority of his career.
Nigga can't even make it out the east. Kyrie was just in FINALS this year! Wtf are we talking about here. Dame just be comfortable flying under the radar making millions buying clothes and rapping and shit. Dude don't care about winning NO CHIP
@@BDAthleticInsider Aldridge left in his 3rd season. After that dame went to the playoffs 6 or 7 straight years without playing with a single other all-star, all-nba, all-defensive, dpoy, not even a roty or coty.
@@orionfell who's Gil to say that? Kyrie's achieved more than him, while Gil was in the same position, while accomplishing nothing! This severe lack of self-awareness is a serious problem now, in our society, since these guys aren't qualified to criticize certain people, since ALL of them have never won a Championship OR haven't even gotten to the "NBA Finals" before, so stop it
Gil is the king of waiting until somebody else makes a good point and then cutting them off so he can say " that's what people don't understand..." Literally every episode. Just did it to Brandon Jennings at the 3:50 when he brought up Dames market size.
Would you all agree this is the most unstoppable lineup ever : Center : Shaquille Rashaun O'Neal Power forward : Victor Wembanyama Small Forward : Giannis Sina Ugo Antetokounmpo[a] (born Adetokunbo Shooting guard : Kevin Wayne Durant Point guard : Michael Jeffrey Jordan
He was actually better than Curry at one point but that's what happens when you let your talent go to waste, Dame shouldn't complain about it your choice in life is where you're at never think you should deserve more
We will never see anything like him again in portland. It’s crazy he still lives and party’s here weekly you’d think he still play here. Ppl don’t cherish their stars till they’re gone. Dame deserves all the credit
Dame >>> Kyrie . Miss me with the dribbling tricks Kyrie has barely played a full season since he left Cleveland. Kyrie has did absolutely nothing without lebron . Before lebron kyrie was the number one option and they was barely winning 30 games . After he left Cleveland what has he accomplished. Went to the finals last year cause of the team he had and the failure of everyone else in the west. Like yall gotta stop this Kyrie narrative
He avg 27 in finals lol and had 50 40 90 season cut it out 😅 and jus made to finals with Mavs now to different teams Dame didn't even make out first round with Greek freak
Hoopers understand that both these guards are ELITE. Which ever 1 you favor will depend on eye test and personal preference. That said... most of us look at Kyrie as special as a point guard can become. Deep threes are still only worth 3 points. Dunks are worth the same as reverse layups. Kyrie is overall more efficient and higher IQ than Dame by tiny amounts. Whats crazy is, if Lebron doesnt go back the Cleveland then Kyrie has Dame's career. No rings but many First teams. Since he played in the finals he got the chance to outplay Steph Curry and showcase better. Dame outplayed Russ in his best games. That is a great feat on its own but slightly falls short to what Ky did. Dame with Giannis should give him the chance to outplay another elite guard on a great stage. Probably not Steph but maybe Ky himself. Maybe Russ and Denver. Maybe Shai. "Dame is a beast but Ky is different." - What most hoopers say
Dame screwed his own legacy by staying in Portland for the money. He’s 34 years old now scrambling to win a Championship. Definitely can’t knock his skill tho.
Coming from a guy who was blackballed from the nba bringing guns into the locker room there’s no reason to take 1 word about anything from this man serious.
I watched the whole Club 520 episode with Dame... he was saying that he doesn't get respect as a SHOOTER. And he is the 2nd Best shooter in the league.
Right? Steph is probably only slightly better than Dame overall. I always like to view Steph and Dame as two scientists who created each the same revolutionary vaccine in the same era, but because Steph published the vaccine First, he got all the credit and fame, Its normal for Dame to be salty sometime about it
Dame gets tooooo much credit. He had a worst NBA playoff record then James Harden and they still act like Harden had the worst playoff record in the world.
Kyrie a better three point shooter then damn kyrie percentage is better kyrie shoots 39 percent for his career Dane shoot 37 so how is he second kyrie. Is behind Steph they just talkin
As a big dame fan he gets the exact amount of respect he deserves. We all know he a dangerous man and1 of the best shooters we have seen but also never been to a finals, never been in MVP race, and if him and Giannis don’t work that will look bad
They did Dame dirty in 16-17 season. He averaged 27ppg and didn't win any awards and He played 75 games. Dame is definitely missing accolades. How are you not a allstar after averaging 27ppg? Love Kyrie but He only played in over 70 games 3 times in His entire career. He misses too much time.
He won 5 total games after the 1st round. That's what hurts him. And how was Dame cheated? Russ, Kyrie, CP3, Curry, that's what he was dealing with. And that's just them.
Kyrie is the best ball handler of all time, what the F*** are these clowns debating? 😂😂😂 We know what KYRIE is the best at so now tell ME what is DAME the best at? 💀💀
Dame is not better than Kyrie. Fuck that championship. He is still better than Dame. Kyrie is a better shooter (50%., %40, and 90% on multiple seasons), Kyrie has better highlights, and Kyrie has better handles.
I don't usually but I agree completely with Rashad's opening statements
"You top 75, wtf are you talking about??"
How is he on the list 🤔, that's the first thing that needs to b addressed!!
@@ReverendSam1just say you don’t watch basketball and understand context 😂
What has Reggie Miller done?
@@Rodsunahh bruh. He got Dwight Howard’s spot
@@Rodsu I've been watching 🏀 since '88, so what don't I understand 🤔??
THERES ABSOF*CKINGLOTELY NO WAY KYRIE not in the TOP 75. NO WAYY EVER !!!!
I've seen Kyrie B4 LeBron & after, not impressed........ IMO 😐!!
Kyrie has literally done shit since 2016 when his teammate was arguably the greatest player ever in his prime… speaks volumes about how fucking overrated kyrie is.
@@ReverendSam1low key, I agree. Kyrie is a bucket buttttttt…l when we talking greatness and leadership…eh
Kyrie is great and have the best handles ever, but he's not a #1 option. He's a great finisher.
@@biyrdieit’s plenty of players dat were not first options who are on top 75😂, dame complaining bout more credit but not realizing he snubbed some people out for the top75
It’s still a crime that Dwight Howard ain’t in the top 75 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Facts
Who would you take off?
@@stingabee123 dame and AD
@@stingabee123 honestly it’s quite a few I could go with. Especially between the 50s n 70s. Go look at that list n tell me it’s not one guy Dwight should replace
I wouldn't gaf who they took off but Dwight not being up there is clear blackballed stuff. Dwight deserves to be up there more than Dame. Off the top of my head he's a 4x dmvp, multiple time rebounding champ and led a team to the finals as the best player and leader AS A defensive player.. that def pissed me off
Dame gets the proper amount of credit he deserves. TBH, he gets a little more than he deserved because he was named Top 75, and someone like Dwight Howard was more deserving
Well stated
💯
I agree completely, Dame is mad overrated!
How does Howard deserve to be top 75 when he wasn’t able to sustained his greatness he was great for like 3-4 years
U trippin.. Dwight was better than most of the old top 50 greatest players. So scratch one of them.. he wasn't better than Dame. We was an athletic version on Rudy Gobert honestly. Even Rudy won defensive player of the year awards & he ass
THE KYRIE 1 WAS HELLA POPULAR
GIL UP HERE CAPPIN 😭😭
Nah fr idk what he on 😂
He just talk to hear his voice at times
LIKE WHAT IS HE TALKING ABOUT
Re adjusting he a brown fan acting like brown made kyrie that’s why kyrie left he seen how it was going he was about to be lil bro or Mario charmers lol naw bro you hit the biggest clutch shot in nba history
@@Officialaccount365 facts brown 😂💀
This why Draymond calls his segment “Champions Only” got a lot of people on the other side of the fence giving wild opinions who ain’t won nothing on this pod 😂
Kyrie is a champion had 40 in a finals game and hit the game winning shot in game 7 and hes not top 75. Dame need to chill
Dame putting in that work with David goggins he’s either gonna get injured or be a dog
Also, Ky played with arguably the greatest player of all time. Dame in that spot coulda done the same.
@@paulturner8550🧢
So. Still doesn’t deserve top 75 over Howard.
I’ll wait for the last Kyrie led conference finals team. Dame ahead of him in everything statistically except games with Lebron
Nah Kyrie 1’s and 2’s went platinum inna streets them Mfs was COLD ! Didn’t need bron to sell at all
Bruh Steph James Harden and Westbrook was winning MVPs at PG.. when the Fuck was Dame top 2-3 PG?? 🤣😂
He definitely was for a certain stretch cmon now
Chris Paul has been a better PG than Dame. He took OKC to the playoffs when they had no expectations of making it, and then took the Suns to the Finals - scoring 41 in closing Western Conf Finals game
@@kjjr3270during the bubble when Steph was hurt lol
harden was a 2 guard. dame is a great player and deserves recognition as well
He honestly deserved a MVP Portland is nothing without him and he kept ya them in the playoffs even getting to multiple 2nd Ed’s off of heroics
The fact ppl constantly say he doesn't deserve top 75 is proof he's underrated. Here are some facts:
-Dame is tied with MJ for the most series ending buzzer beaters.
-He is tied for 3rd in playoff game winners.
-He is the goat from 35ft+ statistically.
-He is 4th all-time in career FT%.
-He's not just a deep shooter, he was an elite dunker in his prime who even did a dunk contest.
-He won the 3pt contest in back to back years.
-He's somewhere between top 2-5 best shooter ever by most accounts yet top 75 is crazy?
-He has the 2nd most efficient 70pt game ever.
-From 2018 to 2021, in winshares Dame was 4th, 4th, 2nd, and 3rd in the league.
-Dame has averaged 30pts+ multiple times both in the regular season, and in the playoffs.
Won nothing
I’m a dame fan but that stat that he’s tied with Jordan in GW dumb af 😂
Those stats ended with chips? 🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢
What has he won? No mvp, no chips, no scoring titles . No trips to the finals. Keep it moving. Move around
This is what I’m saying! He’s top 75 and still hasn’t won anything, lives in the first round and second round of the playoffs. NBA is about winning and I’m not saying he needs to win a championship every year but winning MVPs, scoring titles, getting to the conference finals and finals is what matters. Everyone can shoot as good as him, everyone can score as good as him. Bro is good player that’s in the top 75. Either add to your legacy or just continue to do what you’re doing now.
And he’s still 3rd best PG of this era💯🥱
He has not had a great team around him at his prime be fair G
not a top 75 all time. Howard got 3 DPOY and kyrie has a ring all star mvp ROY and olympic medal. Dame is there for no reason at all lmao
Teams win championships, teams go to the finals, people vote for MVP, and winning a scoring title isn't the end all be all. Keep it moving.
Four years ago on this day, Luka Doncic had :
42 pts
17 Reb
13 Ast
And hit the game winner
4 years ago.
Damn
Kyrie was never #1 option in any championship runs! Dame been that dude since day 1
Facts dame carried at team for 10 years and made the playoffs every year with no other superstar
Thank you 😂 kyrie is amazing but dame is a better leader than kyrie & equally clutch if you ask me. If dame had bron they would’ve done atleast the same or better
@@e1eluwil760 definitely would’ve got more rings and dame the mosey clutch person in the league history proves it
@@e1eluwil760 real leaders do not disappear on defense even curry defends better than damn 🤣 dam overrated with nothing to show for
Been that dude at what? Not winning ish? 🤣
I don't understand how people can take the championship away when you play for the championship, that's crazy.
It’s because none of them bums have one that’s why they’re so disrespectful to championships.
Dame decided to go to Portland, look in the mirror
Your editing is so smooth, loved it!
Kyrie damn near 50/40/90 ever year
People don't realize that or realize how hard it is to do that only couple people have done it crazy work 😅
Key word when he play. He's either hurt or sitting out from suspension or on his own .
Kyrie played with
LEBRON JAMES
KEVIN LOVE
JASON TATUM
JALEN BROWN
GORDON HAYWARD
TERRY ROZIER
JAMES HARDEN
KEVIN DURANT
LUKA
WITH 1 CHAMPIONSHIP IS CRAZY WORK AINT NO DAMN WAY YOU ONLY GET 1 TAKE LEBRON AWAY AND HE HAS NON . L9VE KYRIE BUT HE MISSED SO MUCH TIME ON THE COURT . WHEN HE WAS WITH CLEVELAND HE WAS NECK AND NECK WITH CURRY NOW THATS CRAZY TO COMPARE THE 2
@antoniobonebeatz he barely played with them as u said was injured first year with Tatum n Brown cut it but I hear u n u didn't say Gordon Hayward lmaoooo that's like me saying Dame played with Nic Butaum or whateva lol Cj underrated and Aldridge was one of best bigs in league jus saying n ok Dame played with Greek freak now n couldn't get out first imagine if Kai n Bron or Luka didn't make it out first round like last year was killing them crazy work playing with another star off ball or sharing is very underrated skill some can't
@antoniobonebeatz take that ship away he still has more finals appearances cause jus made it again with Luka smfh crazy work now two different teams
@@antoniobonebeatzKyrie has been to 4 finals. The only guard in the league that can compare is curry.
Credit for what? 0:01🤷🤷🤷
For being consistent underrated and having range
Gil is crazy, Kyrie had uncle drew and signature shoes before bron came back
You know he gotta give Bron the credit no matter what
And no playoffs
@@christophertaylor1695 that’s not what the conversation was about
@@christophertaylor1695why would you expect a 3-year basketball player to make it to the playoffs even Lebron didn’t do that fam until year 3
Gil love hypotheticals until you use them against him
Rashad fuck you’re talking about 😂😂😂
He top 75 over better players and careers
@@tamezdog7143he’s top 75 dame yessir he’s been nice since Weber state
He has a point we have players who have accomplished more and don’t get enough pub fuck is you talking about if that’s the case we need to praise James more and so many others he got cheated a couple yrs so what there’s plenty players who didn’t get what he got he got top 75 over players way more accomplished then him he played in the west suck it up
@@tamezdog7143 put him on the Bucks and all he does is shoot bricks
The fact he mad when he top 75 with no Finals appearances is crazy 😂
Dame had a chance to change the whole narrative around him in 2019 conference finals. When they faced the warriors without KD. Dame and CJ choked and couldn’t win 1 game
In the playoffs He’s like 0-15 against Steph. Simply put he didn’t win enough to make it to that next room of elite hoopers.
There is still time.
Dame will always be 503. Always.
Dame can't talk about no credit, when he hasn't won anything, not even made the finals and made the Top 75 team over DWIGHT FCKN HOWARD. I don't even know whst i have to say about the fact that Jokic ain't there as well...
the list was announced fall 2021, Jokic only had 6 seasons in at that point and wasn't as good as he is now
@@kjjr3270bro he had just got one mvp a couple months before the list... Not 2
The list was made in 2021 Jokic wasn’t as good and only had 6 season dame was top 75 dwight also should’ve made it but not over dame
In the end, it doesn`t matter. Jokic will go down as probably a top 10 (-15) player to ever play the game. He is already Top 10 in my book, when it comes to the way plays. The numbers will follow, if he at least plays till he is 33-34 years old.
@@unlimitedz2.014 not over dame? thats crazy wtf dame do to portland and tell me what dwight do in magic.
PEOPLE DONT UNDERSTAND DAME CAN CARRY A TEAM BUT KYRIE CANT 😂😂THATS THE BIG DIFFERENCE
Carry a team where 😂
Conference finals… ina conference with lebron james, jokic, prime westbrook and PG, harden, and Curry/Klay…
Without playing with another all star. Its a big achievement
@crackberry7902 CJ carried that team to the conference finals that year. Outside of the first round, Dame was trash in the playoffs.
@@remnant8898 so lets ignore dame torching denver so much in game 1 that they started picking him up full court and constantly doubling him which created a lot of open looks for his teammates. Denver’s plan was to force someone else to beat them by over focusing dame and CJ took advantage of that.
Boxscore watcher
@@crackberry7902dame torched Denver & they lost lmao why even bring that up
Kyrie is more disrespected than Dame. Kyrie helped the Cavs get to several NBA Finals, hit a Game 7 winning shot, and helped a team come back from 3-1 while averaging 27.1 ppg and gets zero credit.
The only reason why Dame is so beloved is because he is a "safe player" meaning that his winning and losing doesn't impact anyone else's legacy.
Kyrie is a "legacy impactful" player because him helping Lebron has to be ignored to push a narrative that Lebron won on his own and him leaving Cleveland made him hated because it directly impacted an NBA Finals calibre team.
Dame just goes out there and scores, nothing more. Dame's wins and losses dont affect anyone, but if he were beating your favorite player in the Finals you'd hate him which is precisely why Gil hates on Curry, who has done more than Dame, because Curry's success affected Lebron and Gil is obsessed with Lebron James.
Had Curry gotten his rings against someone OTHER than Lebron, he'd have no haters. Case in point, people are salty about Curry's 2015, 2017, and 2018 but everyone supported him in 2022. Wonder why? 🤔 Because that time, he defeated someone other than Lebron so it was "safer" for his haters to cheer for him that specific year.
This is similar to people trying to downplay Jordan because Jordan's greatness is a direct threat to their favorite players because his success directly caused other stars not to win, changing the trajectory of careers and NBA histort, and newer players get compared to him. If Jordan were just dropping 30 a game and not winning much, the new generation who hate on him literally wouldnt exist just like how you will never see people hating on guys like George Gervin because their stats didn't impact other players historically.
Hella finals appearances ?? lol you do know the only time kyrie has made anything pass the first round before this year was w Lebron … dassit lol
portland winning affected a lot of peoples legacy on the playoffs. wtf you talking bout young kiddo? LMAO
WHEN HAS KYRIE DID ANYTHING WITHOUT LEBRON😅😅
@crimsoncoconut2421 He's got a point. Portland winning barely affected anyone legacy. The big legacies of the 2010's are Lebron's, KD's & Curry's. Had they won golden state with KD down, they could've affected shit.
Dame has been the man on his team for years. The difference is Kyrie always has another star next to him and that takes away from his individual accolades. Kyrie is definitely a star guard deserving of a chance to lead a team, but I think that's not in the cards for him anymore.
He’s not a leader. He failed with Cleveland Boston and Brooklyn
kyrie also messed up demanding a trade going to Boston and them guys getting a ring without him. u have to tell that part of his story as well. Dame was ion the west leading his team with another small guard in CJ as his sidekick going to the playoffs having to face Golden St
Dame gets so much love he left Portland teamed up with Giannis accomplished absolutely nothing and no one said a word about it
Tell me you didn't watch the playoffs without telling me you didn't watch the playoffs lmao
It’s only been 1 season with Giannis. You gotta relax man
Doc Rivers and the bucks been hurt dummy
They both was hurt in the 1st round 😂
@nmpiars8936 now let's be real if Kai teamed up with Bron n didn't get out first round first year like Dame n Giannis he even made it out first with Kd they would kill his legacy more like last year when him n Luka didn't playing half the season killed him for that
KYRIE WOULDNT BE TOP 75 WITH DAMES RESUME BRUH
Gil hates on steph curry all day everyday but claims dame need more respect 😂😂 make it make sense
Ain't no way you still take this nga and this podcast serious.
He’s the Black Skip Bayless…. Found his gimmick and the best part is he doesn’t even have to follow the game that closely to pump out brain dead takes all day
@@kevinconroy6606LOL. That's funny cause it's true
Lol you curry fans stay slaty it's hilarious. All you longtime GSW fans since 2016 kill me.
@@Kobiyashi77 ya mamma is a steph curry fan
Oh please, he made top 75 team even tho he had no business being on there. He gets more than enough credit.
Bro Steph is signed to under armour and Embiid signed to sketchers . They both bigger than Dame, tf is Brandon talking about 😂
Cail is BIG market phily BIG market Portland small market which is owned my nike
The look and pause at 9:42 💀💀💀💀💀
No cappppp I was even like really 😂😂😂 mccants this be the takes sometimes that have you looking at him like this is why
Lmmfao
I was crying 😂😂😂😂 everybody was stunned
Mccants “kyrie has done more than Dame” when he’s not close to Dame in accolades that y’all always kill Dame for not having. Exact example of why Dame still feel disrespected
I'm here saying the same thing
No Assist title, No Scoring title, No MVPs, No Finals "APPEARANCES", 1 Conf Finals which you were SWEPT, you're not now nor ever have been the best @your position! He'll be remembered for tappin his wrist & sending home Playoff-P 💯
Kyrie’s only trips to the finals have been as a #2. Every year that he was a #1 he accomplished absolutely nothing. From 2014-2021 the Blazers were the only team in the NBA that made the playoffs every year. And that was because of Dame.
@Paper1Planes #1... #2... I'm not about to play the Batman vs Robin game w/you🤣 All I know is Kyrie has multiple Finals Appearances & it's not like dude was a 6th-Man. He was their closer💯 Buuuuuuuuuut what great love does Kyrie get btw lol you had to compare Dame to Kyrie!? Dame isn't Steph, Dame is CP3, hell Dame isn't even Trae Young (@least he was the 2nd player ever in NBA History to lead the league in total points & assist in 21-22) & @least won a game in the Conference Finals, in his only visit there 48pts 11asst. & Trae has been short-changed far more than Dame
Swept by gsw with no kd either and a couple of those games they had a double digit lead in the fourth but he top 75 😂
@@Kakarot33721 Yea, GSW spotted them 14, 15, 16 & 17 point leads @the half ALL OF WHICH they blew smh
9:44 the look on Gil face when Mcants say Tre Young is hilarious
Rashad spoke for a lot of hoop fans with that top 75 point. They put him over Dwight…
Kyrie has not done more than Dame individually check the numbers 😂
Bra facts dame numbers crazy
He a champion.
@@calebmccrary1320 champion. Why do y'all brag about numbers
He in the 50 40 90 club ion think Dame on it
Oakland Legend. Career average of 25. Dame averages more points, assists, rebounds, has made all NBA 1st team, has 6 more NBA 2nd team honors and has more career points. WTF are yall talking about? Lol you guys proved his point exactly.
The reason Dame and Kyrie don't get enough credit is simple........Steph Curry💯💯💯
Or it’s the fact that Kyrie hasn’t done anything without lebron and dame hasn’t played well outside of the first round
@@Newportnews98faxtz lol that's part of what i mean tho,if it wasn't for steph,he mighty could've made something shake by now
So kyrie didn't jus make it to finals with Mavs now too I'm confused with this hadn't done nothing without LeBron shit still crazy work😅
Dame been underrated his whole career, he been killing and consistent since his rookie yr .. if it wasn’t for him nobody would think about Portland 💯
People dead ass have 25 people in their top ten
Having AI in your top ten says everything about how you view basketball
duh fuck up... AI top 10
Somebody tell McCants that someone who either lost in the first round or missed the playoffs entirely for 15 straight years isn't a top 75 player; stop saying McGrady's name.
Dame is a far better shooter than Trey.
There’s no way in hell Kyrie Irving had a better career than Damian Lillard. He’s had a way more flashy career, had a great final series and has been in the public eye way more, but as far as an individual NBA career Damian Lillard clears. Dame was consistently greater for longer and was the leader of a team that went to the conference finals in the competitive west.
It’s not even close tbh. People just like the flashiness of kyrie’s game, but dame clears him
Ummmmm nah Kylie got blackball after that whole Boston move and then covid and much more bro ...
Finally somebody spoke the truth and that is really all the this convo boils down to. Kyrie gets to jump more productive/ carrying the franchise pg's because of popularity based off how it looks. Kyrie gets credit for the potential of what he could do compared to what he actually puts on the stat sheet. Dame, Trae, Shai, Ja, Fox and Brunson are all more productive pg's with more responsibility that get less recognition. As supremely talented as Kyrie is and could've been, facts are he has been a glorified Robin for the majority of his career.
@@jadd3d178 said it perfectly
Nigga can't even make it out the east. Kyrie was just in FINALS this year! Wtf are we talking about here. Dame just be comfortable flying under the radar making millions buying clothes and rapping and shit. Dude don't care about winning NO CHIP
I thought dame was talking about as a shooter not enough respect.
He was, these guys just don’t like him… clowns
Still not even remotely close to being a Top 5 shooter.
@@kjjr3270currently, who is then ???? back it up with numbers too …ignorant comment
The first minute had my rollin😂
That man said Trae Young 😂
Yo😂😂😂
Rashad said “He at 75👇🏾” 😂😂😂😂😂
Dame dont belong in top 75 he ain't done shit.
Took a mediocre team to the playoffs every year with no all star 🤷🏽♂️
@@drujefe9679I guess Aldridge was a allstar lol.
@@BDAthleticInsider Aldridge left in his 3rd season. After that dame went to the playoffs 6 or 7 straight years without playing with a single other all-star, all-nba, all-defensive, dpoy, not even a roty or coty.
@@drujefe9679who cares..CJ was having better playoff series than dame in some of those years.
@@barehands9614literally in the west in a tough division and carried Mo Harkless an Aminu to the playoffs
Partially agreed on top 75 comment, however the context of the Dame comments isn't being spoken on.
Kyrie deserved that Top 75 spot ...🚶♂️
Politics
@@berlingray8058what has Kyrie done without Lebron????
Fuck no 😂
No he doesn’t
@@Newportnews98what has dame done at all 😂
2:15 😭😭😭😭
Compared to Kyrie in terms of being the number 1 option, Dame has done more.
Dame has done MUCH less, he has "0" accomplishments to speak of, so saying THIS, is the dumbest thing said in 2024
@@DaFactsNoNonsense1713 can you not read? he said "in terms of being the number one option." kyrie really hasnt done shit without a co-star
@@orionfell who's Gil to say that? Kyrie's achieved more than him, while Gil was in the same position, while accomplishing nothing! This severe lack of self-awareness is a serious problem now, in our society, since these guys aren't qualified to criticize certain people, since ALL of them have never won a Championship OR haven't even gotten to the "NBA Finals" before, so stop it
Gil is the king of waiting until somebody else makes a good point and then cutting them off so he can say " that's what people don't understand..."
Literally every episode. Just did it to Brandon Jennings at the 3:50 when he brought up Dames market size.
Curry > Lillard
Dame
0:03 LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FR THO
Damian Lillard has no championships. 🤦♂️ He's a basic NBA player💯 1:54
Basic nba players are top 75 🤦🏽♂️
That part. This dude a idiot@@ygsmooth2447
U crazy that’s like saying Russ a basic nba player
Would you all agree this is the most unstoppable lineup ever :
Center : Shaquille Rashaun O'Neal
Power forward : Victor Wembanyama
Small Forward : Giannis Sina Ugo Antetokounmpo[a] (born Adetokunbo
Shooting guard : Kevin Wayne Durant
Point guard : Michael Jeffrey Jordan
Dame definitely deserve a Olympics run him and steph are lethal weapons💯
That’s who was missing
Not over Jaylen Brown.
Dame is a fraud.
Dame is lame. Making top 75 was ridiculous he does not belong
He was actually better than Curry at one point but that's what happens when you let your talent go to waste, Dame shouldn't complain about it your choice in life is where you're at never think you should deserve more
Wowwww never thought about how crazy Dame playing in Portland & not being on Nike was until now
Kyrie getting Paul pierce mileage out of that 1 backpacked championship
He wasn’t carried, he pulled his own weight, he averaged 25 for the whole playoff run and averaged 27 in the finals.🤣🤣🤣
@@abtocool6350 without lebron that team doesn’t make the playoffs, we’ve seen what he’s done as Batman
@@atjuggernaut151 without Kyrie Cleveland wouldn’t have a championship
@@eviltwn meh, niggas lucky bron ain’t trade him too
@@eviltwntrue. But Kyrie still hasn’t done anything without lebron
Watched this live on stream 💪
dame is top 75 💀 and people in the 2010’s acknowledge that he was a top 5 pg. he just plays with arguably the goat pg
Gil’s face when Rashad said Trae young got me crying 😂😂😂
Brandon is wrong kyrie didn’t get a sig shoe until bron showed up
Cap
You should go fact check this 😂
😅😅😅need to go look that one up my boy
We will never see anything like him again in portland. It’s crazy he still lives and party’s here weekly you’d think he still play here. Ppl don’t cherish their stars till they’re gone. Dame deserves all the credit
Dame >>> Kyrie . Miss me with the dribbling tricks Kyrie has barely played a full season since he left Cleveland. Kyrie has did absolutely nothing without lebron . Before lebron kyrie was the number one option and they was barely winning 30 games . After he left Cleveland what has he accomplished. Went to the finals last year cause of the team he had and the failure of everyone else in the west. Like yall gotta stop this Kyrie narrative
What has Dame done 😂 does nothing better than kyrie
@@vell1573he’s a better first option and he peaked higher , Kyrie ain’t never averaged no 30 and 8.
Bro they love sucking Kyrie dick. DAMIAN LILLARD has had a way better career
He avg 27 in finals lol and had 50 40 90 season cut it out 😅 and jus made to finals with Mavs now to different teams Dame didn't even make out first round with Greek freak
@@SwProvcity33 he played like shit in the finals. Greek freak missed the whole playoffs what’re you talking about ?
I say that as a fan of his, they don’t boost him enough for what he’s done
He’s the most clutch player we’ve seen in years and his legacy relies on big shots in playoffs and regular szn that’s why they gave him 75
invalid bc he’s never hit big shots to make it to the finals
I lucked one game winner this past season after shooting 33% he lucked one in.
🧢
@@livinginadarkworld2808 bro google is free u can just look up who’s the most clutch since 2012
@@Newportnews98 google is free search it up
Hoopers understand that both these guards are ELITE. Which ever 1 you favor will depend on eye test and personal preference. That said... most of us look at Kyrie as special as a point guard can become. Deep threes are still only worth 3 points. Dunks are worth the same as reverse layups. Kyrie is overall more efficient and higher IQ than Dame by tiny amounts.
Whats crazy is, if Lebron doesnt go back the Cleveland then Kyrie has Dame's career. No rings but many First teams. Since he played in the finals he got the chance to outplay Steph Curry and showcase better. Dame outplayed Russ in his best games. That is a great feat on its own but slightly falls short to what Ky did. Dame with Giannis should give him the chance to outplay another elite guard on a great stage. Probably not Steph but maybe Ky himself. Maybe Russ and Denver. Maybe Shai.
"Dame is a beast but Ky is different."
- What most hoopers say
Imagine how Robert Horry must feel. He has more rings than any modern player and is always left out of the conversation
Bruh what 😂😂😂😂😂
You can say the same thing about Mr steal your girl d fish too
Role player rings foo
@@zenitsuthunder3946do championships count or not? Or only when it helps your arguments?
@@El_Fonzounfortunately the answer is yes honestly
Can’t believe I AGREE WITH RASHAD😶🌫️ Top 75!! No finals appearance…no MVP….he’s being recognized.
9:46 “trae young” gil face is hilarious
Rashad McCants seems like he doesn’t watch the games
“He number 75” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 bro Rashad
I agree with arenas once again
Dame screwed his own legacy by staying in Portland for the money. He’s 34 years old now scrambling to win a Championship. Definitely can’t knock his skill tho.
We love you dame time ❤❤portland legend
Dame playing with giannis and nobody cares honestly and kyrie got a 3pt championship to sooooo
Coming from a guy who was blackballed from the nba bringing guns into the locker room there’s no reason to take 1 word about anything from this man serious.
What does this have to do with his basketball credibility cause he made a bad decision in life. Iykyk agent zero is the godfather of combo guards.
@@ericminfield2426 uh ill let you sort out your own problems mentally before you try and reiterate that to me one more time.
I watched the whole Club 520 episode with Dame... he was saying that he doesn't get respect as a SHOOTER. And he is the 2nd Best shooter in the league.
Dame is right. He’s just as good of a shooter as Steph and if he had a better team during his Portland days he’d be viewed much higher than he is now
agreed they not hearing this tho
Dame is not close to Steph in shooting
@@Capb25😂 yeah ok
@@mspicer2852 he’s not, look at efficiency. Dame not close
Right? Steph is probably only slightly better than Dame overall. I always like to view Steph and Dame as two scientists
who created each the same revolutionary
vaccine in the same era, but because Steph
published the vaccine First, he got all the
credit and fame, Its normal for Dame to be salty sometime about it
Dame gets tooooo much credit. He had a worst NBA playoff record then James Harden and they still act like Harden had the worst playoff record in the world.
Harden has played with Dwight, CP3, Westbrook, KD, Kyrie, Embiid, PG, and Kawhi.
Before Bucks trade, Dame has played with Aldridge and CJ.
The way social media set up. Every market can be big . U can reach dat audience jus by a touch of ur phone.
Kyrie a better three point shooter then damn kyrie percentage is better kyrie shoots 39 percent for his career Dane shoot 37 so how is he second kyrie. Is behind Steph they just talkin
Facts they have zero ball knowledge smh 🤦🏿♂️
I like the slick Bill Walton shot Gil took at the end. RIP
Mccants had a point with that opening statement
As a big dame fan he gets the exact amount of respect he deserves. We all know he a dangerous man and1 of the best shooters we have seen but also never been to a finals, never been in MVP race, and if him and Giannis don’t work that will look bad
Gil got to pull up them injuries stats too for context
Yoo Rashad is killing me , tre young ????? Little Steph 😂😂😂😂😂
Actually Oakland has 4 players on top 75 all time. Gary Payton, Bill Russell, Dame Lillard, and Jason Kidd. Hella Dope!
They did Dame dirty in 16-17 season. He averaged 27ppg and didn't win any awards and He played 75 games. Dame is definitely missing accolades. How are you not a allstar after averaging 27ppg? Love Kyrie but He only played in over 70 games 3 times in His entire career. He misses too much time.
He won 5 total games after the 1st round. That's what hurts him.
And how was Dame cheated?
Russ, Kyrie, CP3, Curry, that's what he was dealing with. And that's just them.
Y’all should make your own top 50 players of all time everybody on the panel
Kyrie is the best ball handler of all time, what the F*** are these clowns debating? 😂😂😂 We know what KYRIE is the best at so now tell ME what is DAME the best at? 💀💀
No T-Mac in the Top 75 is crazy work
Dame is not better than Kyrie. Fuck that championship. He is still better than Dame. Kyrie is a better shooter (50%., %40, and 90% on multiple seasons), Kyrie has better highlights, and Kyrie has better handles.
Man Gil really the only one on here who know basketball it’s crazy to see that professional hoppers are just as goofy as some of these analysts smh
Kyrie was selling shoes in Cleveland before Lebron came back. Brandon is right.
I think they got away from the question. Especially speaking on brands.. Nike and Adidas headquarters are in Portland.
gil ain’t like it when brandon said dame would be a bigger athlete if he had Nike😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂