In the Fix: Berlin vs. Moscow Part 2
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- In the first part of In the Fix we showcased what a fixed-gear bicycle is and what it’s like to ride one. Now we continue our brakeless adventure hearing what authorities and politicians have to say about the world of fixed-gear bicycle enthusiasts.
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“No brakes is dangerous” says Kalashnikov Art Collector.
It's safe to have a frontbrake as backup. I try to use it as little as possible, but last month my chain snapt, luckly a had that brake!
Why do people say they make you flip over?
***** oh okay thanks. Sorry to hear that haha
I had that same thing happen when I was flying down a steep hill. I hardly touch my break but that day it definitely saved me from getting g seriously hurt
Normally you never want to death pull your front brake. That will seize your front wheel causing you to flip over the front. But then again, shit happens
+Charles Sampson If you just HAmmer the shit out of your break and your weight is on the front then you will go over the bars but aside from that most of your breaking power is actually from front breaks no matter what kind of bikes
I would love to see statistics on accidents from bikes with brakes and bikes without.
I think there are Not much Differenz
I like it how the Russian official seems very understanding. He knows people are riding bicycle, is even aware of fixies, and it seems he is somewhat supportive. When he said that they are professionals, that it's perfectly normal and fine for a pro to ride without brakes. As if he said to let people be themselves, enjoy what they wish.
I think that's cool. :)
Any Russians out there to comment on this? I really wanna hear your opinion.
quicksilver1203 Moscow is very popular bike near each station has parking and rental bicycles, do that would be less congestion and health of citizens
+quicksilver1203 Correct :) No problems with any types of bikes. For example : pp.vk.me/c621731/v621731423/2668b/2uVlV3SW04E.jpg
pp.vk.me/c624727/v624727423/975d/k0j-PPPIfic.jpg ))) My friend make this by own hands
+Роман Авдеев Awesome!
He was actually saying that a professional can ride a bike without breaks, but other people, talking about the street punks, shouldn't do that
Cause he is not an official, he is an actor
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www.ivi.ru/person/aleksey-ogurtsov-30026
I have ridden brakeless but found myself riding slower than I would with my front brake. I could skid/skip stop but riding 20mph+ through traffic and relying only on an inferior way of stopping is not smart. To each their own though. I just enjoy riding as fast as possible without having to worry about slamming into an unpredictable situation.
Thanks for your comments Connor Bruno
Connor Bruno WORD, As a roadie that rides a fixed bike from time to time I have to say going brakeless slows me down.. I however would not say "you must use a brake" if you are skilled enough and its your bag then go for it...
Only having a front brake is a bad idea imo. If I only had one it’d be on the back. One can argue efficiency all day long but I like my front teeth and in tact clavicles. Try hard stopping from full speed with only front brake and get back to me after the wounds heal.
@@sirmixalot3332 your back brake is your legs....
Not on my bike! Haha. I learned back in sixth grade what a front brake will give you. Mismatched front teeth. I depend on my rear brake and the front brake is for assistance only.
Beautiful cities: Moscow and Berlin, Berlin and Moscow! Beautiful video! Beautiful life!
Glad you enjoyed the show theDuplicitous many thanks for your kind words WeLoveCycling
I love how the Russian dude has a framed AK.
Well, as a fixed gear rider in one of the most crowded cities in Europe which is İstanbul, i can say these bikes are extremely fun. And this takes the excitement to a higher level. So they should definitely be allowed whatever the situation is. For further info, the most bike-car crashes are caused by the careless drivers on the roads cuz they never tend to use their mirrors or check the right side when stepping out of the car :)
Many thanks for your comment Eray Bülbüller its great to hear about the Fixie scene in Istanbul. Ride safe. WeLoveCycling : )
Barış Çelebi rofl
Cars belong on the track, cycles on the road 🙌🏼😬
That's a sweet AK that Russian dude has on his wall. I bet it's loaded.
All guns are loaded in Russia. All the time
I really find it funny how much the American people are misled about Russia and post soviet countries :D Especially considering the fact that America has MUCH worse problems with people owning and misusing guns.. I know that you're joking, but in Russian there is a saying that means "Every joke contains a little part of truth" :)
The fact is, AK guy is not even a parliament member or whatever, he is just a TV actor. So i assume AK stuff is only just for colour.
Djon Smith lol
minorthing792 yep man
I've been riding fixed for a while now! I started out with a brake and slowly realized i don't need it. If u feel u have control, skidding and skipping is your break u don't need additional ones. This goes without saying but straps/toe-clips or click pedals are a must if you want to ride brake less. I vote brake less riding should be legal. (i'm from the Netherlands).
The police and the law makers should not be concerned with brakeless riders. It's of course advisable to have at least a front brake. If you don't have a break you put mainly yourself in danger. The police should totally focus on motorists who endanger people.
I recommend a front break for emergency stop.
in Germany only front-brake is demanded, since on the back, u already have your chain.
Ребята молодцы ! Даете мотивацию ! СПАСИБО ! Pray for ya all broz
Single Speed bicycle was something many of us, if not most has grown with in Moscow. All what we had as breaks were not very sufficient coaster brakes. Skid is almost the same. As long as rider could do the skid with his bike gear ratio and easily. Especially in city with very clean roads as Berlin. My gear ratio on fixie/ss is 2.88. It is too high for my body mass, muscles to do easy skids. So I have front and rear brakes. Very handy for descending @40+ km/h. Where I'm riding now, roads have lots of small derbies, not so sufficient for braking by skids, either. But comes Russian style of winter and skid on winter tires might be better than with traditional brakes.
My friend had some trouble to find correct dear for his fixie, because Moscow isn't flat and there is a lot fast descends, where you need to keep control of the bike.I prefer the singlespeed with both brakes.
Wise choice nameresu many thanks for your comment WeLoveCycling
Interesting documentary, my respects to all those riders that looking for happy on the way with this bikes without brakes..its a gift ....I m down hill mtb rider ,we use big hydraulic brake discs, but after se that ....the world for ride a bike its more than labels ...keep a life keep a ride..
Stronger riders can break with leg power alone very quickly but never as quickly as a bike with 2 hand brakes. I am a weaker rider who needs it and can't rely on leg power. I understand, some reds are dumb to stop at as its completely clear but some are reckless where people have to stop to let cyclists go through. Riding brakeless can encourage endangering pedestrians unless the cyclist is being extremely safe and cautious. Physically weaker and/or inexperienced riders have no business riding brakeless fixes in traffic.
Keep the bikes with no brakes (besides locking up the rear wheel) on the track. But I also feel this should be decided on a more local level and not on a national one.
Bikes on roads are good but you have to be able to react in a safe and timely manner in situations. Not having brakes will increase the potential for a worse accident to happen just like riding without a helmet will increase the potential for a head injury in an accident. The difference though is that the helmet protects ONLY the rider whereas brakes will help protect not only the rider but also the person/vehicle/building they may impact.
Thanks for your comments Richard Garrett
I'm in this video and, well, I've installed a front brake on my ti-fixed just for it to be there. I was in the accident this september when the car took me over and hit the brakes two meters in front of me. I'm glad I didn't have the brake because otherwise I would have broken my neck. Police made me guilty of the accident because I had ALMOST no proof that I was meant to be hit BUT absence of brakes made me silent in the police quoters. Nobody wanted to listen to my version at all.
My opinion is that almost no one even in bike world understands what this "no brakes" means. Those who out of their element always go nuts screaming that if you have no brakes you should not be allowed to ride in the street. But what they imagine is the bike that can't stop.
I was hit by the female driver and the moment she left her car to assess the damage she went saying that I have no brakes. I guess she was the one who didn't approve fixies much and she knew where to look right away haha thankfully I didn't brake my breastbone against the roof of her nissan.
Took you over and hit the brakes two meters in front of you.
That was reckless of her, and she did it without taking your safety into any sort of consideration.
Where I live, she would have received a traffic summons (if she did not flee the scene of the accident) for 'failure to avoid a pedestrian' (and yes, here, a bicyclist is a pedestrian). Connecticut USA 41 North 73 West.
I don't know if 'no brakes' would factor into it - brakes in that situation only mattered because the motorist was reckless and fully unpredictable in her behavior (because who would do that? If you were driving a standard sized steel automobile -- instead of your bicycle -- would she have taken the same approach? Of course not.)
Glad you are alive to tell us your story!
Thoroughly enjoyed the film! There is of course a certain amount of inherent danger that one immediately assumes as soon as they mount a bicycle. With that in mind, as long as the rider is in control it should be allowed use of a bike with or without the conventional brake systems depending on the rider's abilities. Ride your bike and be aware out there!
it's up to the person riding a fixie if they want brakes or not I mean I have brakes on my fixie just in case if anything happens or if I can't brake fast enough
Wise words... :)
no its not, theres more than just you on the road. old people, small kids, sometimes even blind or deaf people. some people think its exciting without breaks? great, but some people dont want to die cause you want a little fun. if you wanna have near death experiences you can choose a sport thats not involving other people without their commitment.
I'm riding fixie in dublin and I find that way so safety cause you always most be focused on the way. total union between the bike, the way and you.
I understand now why I like fixies so much, it's like riding a light motorcycle with less trouble ! Vive les fixies - Yangus777 from Paris, France
my opinion is that fixed gear bikes are the best way to commute, and yes , i think that they should be on streets
+Raiko Vainikk thanks for your comment
Raiko Vainikk can you tell me why that the fixie bikes are the best way to commute?
GeeGne -bAb they're light, easy to carry, fast. I personally love everything about them
Raiko Vainikk that was really informative thanks
Raiko Vainikk but why road geared bike aren't better than the fixies for commting?
I think many fail to realise that these laws are not there to save the cyclists, they're there to save the people who are hurt by the cyclists who can't stop in time. By riding without brakes, they are risking others. This is not fair.
lots of people getting inspired of videos like these or by classics from Brunelle or Barentsen, but - as it was already said here, traffic in Berlin is way more relaxed and (almost) nobody break the rules. if you watch Hotline for example - drivers in NYC also are quite aware of bikes and overall traffic pace is much more stable. but traffic in Moscow or St. Petersburg is far more aggressive and unpredictable, plus to this its a common situation when one lane is used for parked cars and others trying to squeeze themselves in the remaining space. my opinion - if you’re fixing you know that you’re doing, just try no to hurt anybody else and always give the road for public transport, it’s about of respect to people) peace!
Думаю, что некоторым людям просто необходим адреналин.) Отличное видео! Спасибо! Конечно же выбор за улицей.) Всем удачи!
I think some people just need adrenaline.) Excellent video! Thank U! Of course - choice of the street.)break rules.) Good luck!
Many thanks for our comments YouBetterNoOne
Keep fixies on the road, it was normal years ago & it's great fun to ride fixed
I'm also a fixed gear rider, as well as I love my canyon race bike and think that it's better to ride with brakes, fixed or not. Especialliy when I ride doing some risky moves, I feeld saver with brakes on my bike.
Great feedback Elfenklatschen thanks for your contribution.
Atlanta, 2010: Sold my Mazda, bought a fixie, rode it everyday from Midtown to Little Five Points, never had breaks except for the natural ones that should be on a fixie. Fixies have breaks, they are more effective than other breaking systems. Oh yea, and I saved wads of $🤑💵$ and butt loads of 🕓⏰!
I've been riding in Amsterdam for 3 months now. Breakless.
I have been riding fixed geared for one year and enjoy it, every day i push myself, i think that a brakeless track bike can be ridden on the street and of course the track!
Жду, когда водители формулы-1 или там nascar организуют сообщество и будут бороться за движение в общем потоке трафика и чтоб их не заставляли трековые машины переделывать под условия езды в городе.
С каких пор малоизвестный актёришка Алексей Огурцов - член парламента?!))
Так топит еще как
it's so funny coming from the exact opposite side where I have a ton of capacity on my bike, mostly on the back and use it for groceries and other things. The added weight makes my back brake more reliable, with the weight on the back tire you can stop faster without skidding out. Or maybe it's just me going slower. Looking online you can buy a fixed gear for less than half sometimes 25% the current cost of a "complete" bike. So it's worth looking into for sure.
Спустя 4 года, видео остается крутым. FIX ONE LOVE)
А извините а в какой гей клуб вы ходите ?
He is right! Im riding my fixie without Fear! That's exciting.
Fixie From Italy
My legs are my gears ! Ride it FIX . Be professional !
well, i used to ride brakeless. it wasn't enjoyable, because everytime i ride brakeless on the road, it just made me worry i couldn't even enjoy a single moment.
Many thanks for your comment moonshot
Get rid of that fear
responsible
you should do this kind of videos here in bogota, colombia and see how this riders and culture is growing.
bike fits everywhere!!
Many thanks for your comment Thiago utR
I always ride fast without brakes and its been 6years since I have an incident, and I've learn about what happen to that incident, so I I could remembered and learned what have happen and to not or to do ever again btw I live in USA,CA
Bikes shouldn't be excluded from traffic, but should be protected by laws and allowed some kind of protective priviledges, brakes are a must though since they don't ruin the experience too much and they give you an extra safety measure.
Thanks for your comment Nihilanth Non Serviam
Le FIX pour tous et surtout partout ❤
For me, things are simple as this: Track bikes belongs to the track, and road bikes belongs to the road.
But off course, whatever is the type of bike you have, it makes part of the traffic too and deserve the same respect and have the same rights to transit on the same roads as a car.
Insightful comments Miguel Montenegro thank you.
I think some people misunderstand the concept of "brakeless". They might think it as if the bike has singlespeed without brakes nor fixed cog. A pure brakeless when you have to stop by grinding your footwear to stop the bike. Riding fixed gear bike you still have a "brake" sort of method to stop by fighting back the pedals or locking the rear wheel. I think fixie riders must explain to people without better knowlage what kind of bikes we are riding. We have no additional brakes but we can brake and stop.
Ha, same old question sucks so much. People do it anyway. If you feel it and you can do it- go for it!
Ride or die fixies for life! NO breaks NO gears NO fears!
These bikes do have a way of braking, it's just not a lever. If you are speeding beyond the capabilities of your bike or your body of course it's dangerous but it's the same in every vehicle, brakes or not.
If you can stop your wheel by stopping the pedals it's the same thing as a kids bike braking by pedalling backwards only harder on the legs
You can stop with a fixie realy easy. I ride a fixie and i think with a brake and without it's the same when you skid it's like you pull your brake, you stop the wheel and that's why i think it's the same. So all in all fixies are safe :)
Botond Kalu It's true with skill and practice a fixed gear bike can be rode very safely.
I love fixed gear! From Mexico City
As a fanatic of speed and a brake less adventure, I say it should be allowed. If anything happens the cyclist has a big responsibility as well but we are all free to ride as we please. Stopping a fixie rider is like having them behind bars in a way
That Ingria bike is absolute 🔥💨
What is the brand of the frame at 5:11 ? It's gorgeous!
WZWZW nvm, it's an affinity lopro, but still wow. great vid, dudes.
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sick editing
@Connor Bruno i have i fixie and enjoy riding it but its true that sometimes fixie riders take unnecessary riks
Ride with a front brake until you feel safe without it, it's not as dangerous as it looks at all, you can slow down perfectly fine once your experienced and know what your doing.
Except if your chain pops and you have no brake, then you're fucked. That's one of my biggest fears while riding my fixed.
+AXEL0329 very unlikely if you maintain your bike properly, if it does happen just footjam to a stop
Fixies are the best on the streets! If you love to be fast, and you can move right in traffic then you have to ride fixie. Fixies are about freedom, but we can't ride free 'cause the traffic and people who are around us, these are a little bit deangures. If your adrenalin is on the top you feel you have to ride faster and faster... Ride a bicycle and you will be happy!
Daniel H.
Brakeless for Life !!!
ride my bmx also without brakes, it makes everything more special and exciting
Fixed gear bikes are just interesting to ride rather than my road bike in my opinion. I commute with my track bike with 48x15 and it is scary.
Some really quality photography btw, much enjoyed!
what is the name of the song in 3:21
1st lemme say:pretty good Job.
2nd I ride a fixed gear in Ldn. (I think it could fall in between those two cities mentioned above) and I feel safer riding it breakless than before. the instinct of squeezing the breaks in emergency situations cases a lot more drama. with a fixie I guess the body and mind recognise the absence of breaks and we seem to be more efficient at escaping the situation with a clear head rather than face it. and honestly even tho I'm not a experienced rider I stop as quickly as any other bike really.
Germany.. comon..
You should do a London one. :)
You guys should check Bogota Colombia!
I drive fixed gear in Gemany and I really don‘t mind to have breaks on my bike.
They look ugly on such a nice and clean bike, but I don‘t use them and they‘re a nice backup if my chain snaps.
I think its great all the attention track bikes are getting now a days…around the world! Being from the states and privileged enough to ride in many of the states i noticed that bike rules/laws are different even city to suburb in some instances. BUT never have i been told to put a front brake on by the police, they have asked, laughed, and called me crazy but never told me to put one on. Simple fact they shouldn't, your legs are your gears and brakes and there is no one that should tell you you have to ride with one. Upon watching this the PA state bike laws states, "Every Pedalcycle shall be equipped with a braking system which will stop the pedelcycle in 15 feet from a initial speed of 15 miles per hour on a dry, level and clean pavement". With that knowledge defiantly going to test this out when I get a chance. Other wise riding a bike is like riding a motorcycle and riding a motorcycle is like riding a horse, roam free, do what you want. These cities are our wild wild west and were just having some fun. That is why I ride brakeless.
Great series. Subscribed.
+Mr Wp Thank you
that Ingria is nuts
Perfect. I like the dubstep played in the background. What track is this?
Hi Eugene B you can download and read about the music here ;) www.welovecycling.com/blog/landing/featured-music-fix/ thanks WeLoveCycling
i like this Freudian slip 2:21 where he gets said when "messing up these beautiful track bikes and putting brakes on them" and then corrects to "Additional brakes on them" show that even in the mind of Fixie riders, Fixies do not have actual working brakes. It's just a fact.
These Fixie riders tend not to stop on red lights or for obstacles because the can't. Their mind set it's better to avoid and go around instead of slowing down or stopping. Of course they try to compensate by looking ahead, but this does not get you very far when you couldn't see it coming.
Example? a fixe rider trys to be cool and ride next to me in the draft of a car about 3 meters behind at ~45kph. the car had to suddenly brake for another car coming out of a parking lot. Result the Fixie (which had a front brake) crashed into the car. Why? Because if you have the mindset that you can always stop with just you legs and the "additional brake" is just to shut up the police, so it's just for show but you never use it, you will also not use it - the one and only actual brake you have - in an emergency like that. I contrast use disk brakes and had no issue with slowing down, but I guess crashing is part of the fun of being an idiot?
Fixie Rules And As A Fellow Racer From The Fixie World we should use they main lanes
Live And Let Ride.
i love cycling.
odessa,ua
In der Zukunft bist mit ner str8angen Kettenlinie lauter als die eAutos.. Immer wieder geil die zwei Videos, Danke dafür.
for me if riding a that is 48/15 or higher i definitely require a brake if i am to enjoy myself otherwise it causes far too much stress on my knees and i a hilly place like Brisbane that can be an issue. that being said all my two other fixies are brakeless and run 46/15 and 52/18 and skid stops are not a huge issue by any means.
no one decides to take the brake off their bike if they think they cannot handle brakeless stopping. I personally feel sketchy and not in control when riding a road bike with two working rim brakes.
The law is backwards as it requires you to have working rim brakes but will not fine you for not using them to stop and how would they ever tell anyway????
Дайте треки которые слышны в этом ролике.
breaks my heart to hear our fellow German riders are struggling to have fun in the roads. feel free to move to London, where if you light tight small roads with vehicles everywhere, people walking on the street without looking both ways and so much noise you can't hear your friends then come here. I would even day filtering here is the best especially when you get the traffic report and there's been an accident which causes major jams then all you have to do is turn left and right and keep pedalling👍
It takes some balls to ride mid-traffic brakeless, leave the guys alone... they must know what they are doing, otherwhise they would be dead already! I ride a hardtail mtb in the streets of São Paulo, our pavement sucks bad!
what is main soundtrack?
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Hi Andrey Linuh you can download and read about the music here ;) www.welovecycling.com/blog/landing/featured-music-fix/ thanks WeLoveCycling
Nice video, maybe you should visit Indonesia, especially Jakarta Capital City. Jakarta's traffic is another story for fixed gear rider.
I ride fixie in france, it's à good clip ;-)
Sometimes its a "green street" for 10 kilometers in Moscow, so why not going fixie? All you need is 28" wheels, its no matter - fixie or integrated hub or whatever (commuter/touring.etc), Moscow can give u cyclin freedom on any kind of serious ride. Hope for more stylish and skilled road cyclists in this year. Cycling is still unpopular here...
I've seen and heard of accidents, your reaction time is changed based on the lack of ability to instantly stop so for safety I'd say no brakeless bikes in the street
Thanks for your comments numbaoneg101
I believe they do belong only by experienced riders though. No inexperienced rider should ride fixed until they have experience on it. I spent almost a year getting in tune with mine before taking out in traffic.
Walker Barry took me 3 days to tame that bitch
David Greene Lmao, you savage
+Walker Barry Year a little much dont you think , I just went on a 20ish mile ride and was used to it by the time I got home
+Fernando Batlle That's because he "got in tune" with an imaginary bike in a mental institution.
Laws should be in place to protect people from each other and the system. Not from themselves. If we want to risk our lives in a certain way, as long as we're not risking others lives, it shouldn't be illegal.
+Toby Prynne I get yout point, but fact is: Cycling through traffic *always* endangers others as well. Not necessarily physically but mentally. If you as a cyclist mess up and get hit by a car and die, it's entirely your fault that the driver of the car might end up traumatized. I've seen people's lives getting destroyed by only that split second that it takes to accidentally kill someone. They will feel responsible even if it wasn't their fault. People tend to forget that side of the story. That said, I still believe people should be allowed to ride fixed gears in public. What they can't do is behave like lunatic assholes endangering others, because you always do, even if you don't want to admit it. ;)
+Lance Flare Totally agree, nicely said ;)
I believe freedom belongs everywhere!
No Brake No Problem !
Thanks for the comment Dödel Vögel ride safe. WeLoveCycling
depends on road and road 'co-habitants' i guess, here in the congested cities, car drivers are pricks, add to that roads that have sun-dried oil because of pollution... i have front brakes always, and it messes up the artwork :)
только междурядье, только хардкор
Many thanks for your comment DreamFall1123
Но мы то знаем, что никакой это не хардкор. Лишь бы узок был баран.
4ekb а как же типы, которые выставляют свое крыло и не смотрят в зеркало? такое часто происходит
DreamFall1123 не знаю, в пробке и в левых полосах у меня не было ни единого инцидента.
fixed gear for life! i just want to say that to me, riding fixed with brakes on your bike is gets as much respect as riding without brakes, having brakes doenst mean youre using them! eventually youll be riding without using your brakes even thoug theyre still on youre bike
Add Russian subtitle please :(
Hello. Thank you for your comment. I will pass this message to the production team. Many thanks WeLoveCycling
Клятвопреступник СурокНу когда наши рассказывают да, ну вот иностранные ребята про что рассказывают я хз
guys where's 3rd part? :
Come to the philippines i wanna know how u think about how rough the streets are
You must be do more fixed gear bike videos
Personally i love breaks, but it depends on the city. If you love cycling you should take care of your health and grinding your knees up a hill with a single speed will just make you less of a cyclist in the future. For me, just have a collection of all sorts of bikes and use a fixie when appropriate. breaks don't belong on a fixie thats for sure!
I think they belong in traffic. The simplicity of a fixie appeals to many and bring cheap transportation. I don't care much for fixies myself, but having ridden them and going on rides with several other fixies, an experienced rider had plenty of control. Best to learn to ride fixies before hitting heavy traffic is where I stand.
Thanks for contributing to the conversation Chasing Cornfields we appreciate it. WeLoveCycling
Riding fixed gear bike you are more aware of speed and your actions as the machine becomes part of your body . Getting to stupid speeds unless you are capable (trained and strong rider ) isnt really doable unless your are an idiot and also as we know some idiots do drive motorised vehicles which are times 100 more dangerous . lets just all ride our fixed gear bikes and be happy !
i ride in toronto with no breaks and love it