Auction Car SABOTAGE? (Equinox No-Crank)
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- Опубликовано: 1 ноя 2022
- Hey it's another Auction Car Special...a mint 2007 Chevy Equinox AWD with only 35k miles!!
Dealer DROVE it back to the auction block for a REFUND after finding the subframe was badly rusted out...
Then he gets a call that the car doesn't START and they can't buy it back as a running car!
SOMETHING SMELLS FISHY...
Let's see why this Equinox refuses to crank...and then refuses to start xD
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My opinion is that the auction didn't want to give the customer back his money, so they made the vehicle "non-returnable" to try to get out of it.
That's a common scam that happens at the car auctions in my area. They all do it.
d'UH !!!
No problem YOU savatage the hood latch so it can't be opened but still runs . or some stays with the car at all times while its running .
Can someone explain this more? How is this non returnable??
@@Walczyk no start no return
Another trick the auction scumbags use is they cut off one leg of a fuse. Then they will reinstall the fuse with the good leg in the B+ terminal. That way when you check the fuse with a test light it appears to be good. I've learned to always remove the fuse and check for this.
Wow! Thanks.
I go to construction equipment auctions and noticed funny business by creeps during inspection before bidding...
Not cool .
Eric O from SMA says that all the time.
Why do the auction people sabotage the cars they are trying to sell? Or are some of the auction people wanting to purchase the cars themselves so they sabotage them hoping to get them at a cheaper price?
@@TheOnespeedbiker they make vehicle machine " no start no operate" and it goes much cheaper for online bidders especially . Then they get it low bid and fix it to sell .
Very common at construction machine auctions.
I usually get there earliest to inspect and know what ran or operated before they have a chance to yank a fuse wire relay sensor etc.
@@TheOnespeedbiker It's often the potential buyers who do something to the vehicles during the pre auction inspections. In Canada, they would often pull the door stickers off that certified that the vehicle meets US emission standards to make it difficult to take a vehicle to the US to deter US buyers.
Not all cars sold at auction are junk but most cars that are junk come from auctions, wise words from Eric O. 2007 and Equinox in the same sentence, a recipe for disaster.
Auction Equinox is THE disaster, 😆
If a car at auction does not have keys. Walk away.
I drove cars at an auction for 15 years. The takeaway I got
All the cars are there for a reason.
The dealer couldn't make money on his lot so it time to move it on to somebody else.
I was the second owner for a car that was sold at a auction to a dealership but car was like mint the guy who sold it lost money nad the dealership who bought it lost money selling it to me, i sold the car for 6k more than i had into it i was the only person who made money off the car.
Very efficient, Ivan. Nailed it quickly. Obviously there was some nefarious activity afoot by the employees of auction house. There's no way the customer could have driven it away and back to them with the relay jammed in there sideways. The customer needs to bring a witness with him and video record when he returns the vehicle next time.
You think there will be a next time?😁
I would stay clear of that auction these people are criminal doing this on purpose. Bad ethics all round not a good way advertising at it's worst can't get worse than driving in and now it doesn't start it's an act of God or the dude there that mucked with fuses on purpose
Yep that's an auction classic. The fuel pump relay or the starter relay. Had it happen to me more than I'd like to admit. Last one was an 06 Accord they pulled the starter relay on. And while in the auction yard someone stole the cat. Good times.
@radio rescue another is unplugging the crank sensor. I have caught potential buyers doing sabotage to try and buy vehicles cheaper.
This is why I quit going to auctions, get tired of spending all your time trying to find out if a car is actually good or not and undo all the sabotage to get the chance to actually check it out.
See it all of the time with the auction houses. The latest one was a Silverado we sent over to them that was running perfect. They call us and tell us it’s missing real bad so we went and got it so we could see what was going on. Turns out someone had removed the fuse for the coils on bank 1. Those places are shady as hell.
Is it the auction house or some buyer who wanted to chase the competition away?
I have always called the process of diagnosis the term of becoming a detective, a forensic detective to be more exact.
exactly try commissioning new machinery that's never worked, it's just the same nothing is impossible, if it's ever worked at least you know it's connected properly and you are looking for a fault, if it's never worked it could be anything
@@kwinterburn: EXACTLY. NEW car dealer techs experience WEIRD problems like oil passages in transmission not continuous, or wiring that LOOKS perfect, but some crimping anomaly or pin insertion failure on 1 wire haunts the vehicle. Time Vampires!
Hi Ivan,
Great you were able to get it running. It does look very suspicious problems started after it was returned to the auction site. Stay safe.
James Plotkin is 100% correct. Auction people flipped the relay to get out of refunding the customers $$. Ivan, good job. PLEASE keep these coming. I am new with a scan tool, and you have been so helpful!
"Learn by experience. Get your ass kicked." LOVE IT. So true.
A friend I have was working for a dealer and auction house in Waverly NY where we always had plenty of trouble shooting to do, wed often see cars with no problems when the rolled in suddenly need work an hour or so befor the sale,how ever we found the cars closer to the sale house never had issues as they were under guard continually and the rest were a ways away out of direct view of the guards that since has been modified with video surveillance and roveing patrols.
Great going! I'll bet the auction cars are like the tests the trade schools use to teach - they put problems in there and let the students work thru them. Of course, going behind another technician can also be a test - inadvertent problems created while troubleshooting. Been there!
would like to see follow-up from the auction to see if they took it back and how happy they were to get the car back
Well, the auction house sure seems honest.
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ha ha
Quick and dirty. Good job Ivan.
Ivan, I like that your always up for a challenge, share your knowledge, and enjoy the effort. Your words of encouragement are extremely helpful in difficult situations. Thanks for Sharing!
Randy from auto auction rebuild said that it is common for some people to do that at the auction so you will not know if the car runs or doesn't so they can get it at a cheaper price he also said that they Rob the keys.
you are so calm debugging these problem cars. incredible patience and detective work!
I do work for an auction and see that kind of stuff all the time. It's not always the people that work for the auction. Customers do it all the time to try and get the cars cheaper. I've seen many different things in me days of doing them.
I used to work for local roads department. A crew came through and sabataged a few cars they were interested in under the guise of presale inspection. So they wouldn't start for others. Caught on security cams they were arrested when they showed up on sale day. 😁
Love the happy smile on start up. Been there fixing something and it actually works. Like a sign of relief.
Love your hard work Ivan, keep putting out this great content please!
I just subscribed to your RUclips channel and i must say you are extremely talented when it comes to vehicle issues. I just found an excellent channel to view whenever new video. 👍👍👍👍👍
Smart diagnostic, Ivan! Clearly looks like sabotage! Auction car - make your bets 🙂
Ivan man love your videos. Learn something new almost every time I watch them. I am a truck driver who enjoy working on my own cars at home on my free time and watch videos of knowledgeable technicians like you. Don’t know if you know Dan from Diagnose Dan RUclips channel, the reason I mention him is because he is also a auto technician but in Europe and he did a short impression of you! Found it funny but nothing like you. Alright man keep doing your videos love them!!
Great job Ivan. Your skills and confidence are amazing! Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I always enjoy your videos. Well made. God bless you!
Auction cars are a roll of the dice no matter how they look, having said that while auction companies are legit they certainly are shady
you have to watch their shady claims too. I knew one auction place that sold cars with the guarantee that the transmission didn't slip. So I bought a car that had some minor issues except the transmission wouldn't go into the correct gear or stay in neutral with the selector lever though it went down the road fine.. I took it back. We road tested it. The lacky there said "the transmission doesn't slip, therefore it's not covered under warranty".
How did he not notice that bomb underneath when he bought it... It seems like it's been run on salted roads then sat on grass... FYI, great vid, i've been getting serious about learning mechanic work last year, people are starting to give me props, I just dont' feal confident, there's SO much I don't know and it just over whelms me... keep it simple, be humble and learn seems what I come up with. I just want that moment where I feal like I know what I'm doing, lol.. great vid and thanks for the boost
Ivan you need a hat you sell that says Ivan’s Brain. Maybe some will rub off on us🤣🤣🙀
I bought a motorcycle at an auction once. I showed up the day before to check out the motorcycle. I asked can I start it up and the worker said sure. Well it cranked and wouldn't start. The worker said hmmm. It started the day before. Well anyways I came back the next day and bought the motorcycle and brought it home. I was trying to figure out why it wouldn't start and I found out why. Someone pulled two of the inner hard to see plug wires off of the plugs. I plugged them back in and problem resolved. So definitely someone tried to cut down the competition and get the price down.
You are my hero!!!!! The best advice you just repeated, " Just do the work and get your ass kicked and learn how to think logically and you will learn diagnostics. " You have saved me $1000.s . Thank you so much.
Great video love these type of videos. Very satisfying for sure
Your amazing Ivan ! just like Eric "O" ,scanner Paul danner and many other greats within automotive & diagnostics . Your talents and advice to others is top shelf ! . Not a video of yours that isn't step by step and many times it's outside the box to solve the problems .I agree if your not hands on and learning by investigating each component and system along the way to get resolve your just not involved enough to fix the problem(s). 👍👍👍👍👍
that would be an 8 hour diagnostic for me, lol! gotta admit, you must be good, to go out on your own and diagnos everything from electric lifts, to different makes of cars etc...
Without a scanner It would take me minutes I would have went down the fuses and pulled each one and looked and put it back it take probably 5 minutes to do that, not a hard thing to do and they pull relays and put back. I would have done this right in front of the Auction people because it clearly drove in fine.
I've been missing most of your videos because youtube stopped recommending them so I had to straight up search for your channel.
I'm probably being shadow banned 🤣
As always you are the best ❤ my friend I love watching your work 👍
I worked as a temp as a driver for an auction years ago and busted a couple of guys who worked for a dealership who were tampering with cars at the auction. They tossed a gadget into some bushes. After they left, I took the gadget to an official to show it to them and told them who had it.
They ended up banning those guys.
Let me tell you what I've been playing around with this 08 equinox throughout the entire internet you had the most helpful video thank you
A relay doesn’t get disconnected and reinsert itself another way. It’s sabotage.
That was one heck of a bonus!
Perhaps it was more sabotage?
Great content Ivan! Appreciate you sharing!
Totally agree. Get your butt kicked. Get your brain working!
You do really nice work. Thanks.
Fun video, Ivan! And good advice that you gave us. Don't watch vids all day. Go and do a hands-on diag on your own. God bless! And keep your vids coming!
This seems so short and quick. It's like it was beneath your technical abilities Ivan. I'm glad you share even these simple fixes but wow you're right, it's a "rot box" with so little use and already crumbling.
Never underestimate the simple diagnosis being potentially... elusive.
I smell something and it’s not just leaking gas lol nice job as always
Great advice at the end. Nice one.
I could have stood there for a fortnight and not found that relay was round the wrong way - Good job
Very good advice, Thanks for your time. great videos Bill N LI NY
love it, I used to comission machines and the first question is has it ever worked ? in this case no, so you are looking at a whole new vista of possible issues, in this case sabotage but usually just assembly issues, missing parts,missing components or wiring the list goes on and on , real first principals stuff is it wired up? is it plugged in ? why is that there .. superb video that issue would have foxed most " techs" and those familiar with the vehicle type would be the worst at actually diagnosing it,. bravo
Your smiling face tell at end is priceless
Great Video Ivan.
Great video. You are 100% right that you have to do it yourself. Have a great day!
A man an his tool and pen & paper, new and old world.
I think someone may have intentionally blown that fuse and replaced both small relays 90 degrees off.
Noooo, do you think? 😅
Putting relays in wrong probably took out the fuse.
Can't believe I'm watching this when I do it for a living. I like that scan tool, seems nicer than my Solus Pro.
Love the words of wisdom. 16 years into this industry.
As a person who works at an auction yard. We do not guarantee running cars. we can say it ran when we received a vehicle or started but it could just mean it ran when it got to us on top of that sitting from days to months to maybe even a year. Components break, that includes sensors, alternators, battery draining, or have no fluids since some of these are wrecked and it could’ve leaked the way to the yard.
I like that high amp test light idea, to avoid blowing more fuses.
It's an old trick used by TV repair guys, to current limit whatever is down stream. Dim bulb test.
the screwdriver with light into it yea its an thing i saw when i was little
It is amazing all the different issues and problems you run across and solve. You are the man, Ivan!
Hey Ivan I had a weird auction car the other day, 2016 mustang, everything worked on the car except the battery charge light was on the dash, but the alternator was charging, and randomly the car wouldn’t crank, battery was good and even with a jump box it would sound like you have a dead battery, several starter clicks and then that’s it. Was chasing my tail all over the place looking for bad grounds and whatnot. Finally got to a point of checking powers and grounds to the pcm, I was missing 2 powers at the pcm. Come to find out inside the fuse box it had pcm batt 1 and pcm batt 2 and one of those fuses was just missing from the fuse box. Very weird problem that it was missing 2 pcm power circuits and the only thing not working was the 2 problems I described, it was definitely a head scratcher for sure. With the symptoms it was having I can guarantee some other shops out there would have thrown an alternator and starter at it lol
Brilliant. Well done!
A great job I wonder if somebody did screw around with that vehicle cuz if the other customer stated they drove it today was able to drive it with that much fuel being leaked out wouldn't it run lean very interesting thank you
It's 15 years old, sat outside, probably worse was not moved as snow piled up. The snow drifts over years starts it, maybe sat in moist shady area and it becomes a year-round issue.
Yep, moist shaded are. Add salt to the mix and it gets rotten.
I had an old civic hatch I bought for cheap, it was 20 years old, only had 50k miles on it but it was a rust bucket.
I hate cars from the east coast they are all rot boxes, and out here on the west coast like cali cars will not rust in 30 years outside they just dont rust here. Have had a F250 that we have owned since the 70's been outside its entire life, with no paint work at all done on the truck and it has not a single speck of rust on it.
Well done Ivan! Something is definitely fishy with that relay.
Nice job Ivan!
Since I am a Genius and you are a decent amateur ;) I do have one suggestion, request or plea, when you have bonus coverage, please mention it early in your video. I was watching your Volvo vid ( simply because I used to love Volvo prior to the Ford goal of trashing the vehicles to make cash off the name) and almost missed the bonus coverage and it made me realize I may have missed bonus coverage in the past. As much as I love your vids, the bonus coverage is like getting a surprise present I was not expecting.
My wife’s 2006 Pontiac Torrent just had the fuel lines replaced because of leaking. Exactly the same spot the plastic clamp at the centre post of the vehicle. She has just over a hundred and ten thousand miles on hers.👍🇨🇦
Nice find and fix.
I think Eric O said it.... Not all the cars at the auction are bad, but all the bad cars are at the auction.
PRICELESS
I bet the auction is not gona be happy that you got it running! Also sounds like they purposely sabotage it!
'Nefarious' activity - When someone uses a 4 syllable word like 'nefarious' in the comments then you know it's serious [serious being a 3 syllable word].
Great video.
Absolutely right on the practice!!...👍👍😎
Ivan, you ROCK!
Crazy that a relay fits 90 degrees rotated.
Right!? Never seen that before!!
Probably designed by the same genius GM engineer who decided the reverse lights should come on when a door is open.
Thanks for the good advice.
holy cow the bottom of that thing is no joke rotted... LMAO... when you showed the leak at the end... it does not surprise me its leaking when it looks like that under there...
Awesome video.
My father spent 3 years building a ground up custom car. After many years of enjoyment, he decided to take it to the wholesale auction. Misteriously, once there, it began having electrical issues, then when it was running through the lane caught fire and burned to the ground. Luckily a pusher truck got it out of the building but all Dad's work was destroyed.
Wow that sucks... Why not sell it private party?
Thakns pine you are the best l like it your s videos thanks for your time
From my experience when doing Prescans of reman transmission before programing them they pull the old VIN from the reman transmission before they are programmed.
I'm assuming they are auto ID by VIN in transmission.
GM Techline Connect pulled the VIN to the vehicle from the ECM
Odd but happens on everyone with a reman
Cleetus Mcfarland got burned by Copart recently. He bought a newer wrecked Porsche 911 Turbo S from them, and the site stated that it ran and drove. They didn't find out until after they had picked it up that the engine had split in half.
Love it well done
Dang. That was interesting. Sometimes, my mom's car, which is a 2005 Chevy Equinox, does the long crank/no start, and has to cycle through a few times before it will finally start.
Good straight forward diagnostics. Is there any chance you could review some of the lower priced scanners? Say the 200 to 300 bucks ones?
Think Car has some cheaper options - ones more cost justifiable to a shade tree working on his own. But some require a subscription. I'd also like to see a review to see how they stand up to the Pro model here.
Either buy a $30 OBDII dongle or the Autel MK808 for $500. Anything in between is a waste of money 💸😉
Good man. 👍
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics That includes others in the ThinkCar line? I like your tool, but just too pricy for DIY my own car.
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics but what if i buy a 10$ obdII oh now i get check engine but no code is showing anymore and it resets itself when i conect the obd lmao,i know it had p420 now it doesnt show anything only light and now a sensor for water temp was broken and no code car not working i just changed the sensor
Looks like Auction company doesn't want to honor arbitration, was it listed as FRONT LINE READY! haha, seen this many times, other issues are lot porters hooking up jumpers backwards too .
Yay, a victory for the good guys.
Great Tech!!!!
This the 1st video of urs that was reccomended to me vy the algorithm and tbh love it, i like to see diag videos pretty dope
Great words of advice.....get out there and start practicing
Interesting vid!
Nice video!
I bought a '88 LSC at an auction. When I picked it up the premium sound package was missing. Paid $1000 for it. Ran fine after I replaced the air bag system with Mustang springs. Then found out it had no overdrive. Then the break system went belly up 2 years later. Bad news could not get a mechanic to replace that system with a Mustang-R brake system.
Guess that stabil it track and ABS is mandatory every where except the race track. All were afraid of the .gov inspectors.
Since when are reliable brakes not much better than maybe brakes? I think that most just wanted me to sell them the old no rust collector Lincoln.
Maybe to make a homemade 4 banger conversion '88 Mustang GT. Then sell that to somebody that does not know what to look for in the chassis and VIN? Yes the drive train and brakes for a LSC is the same as a automatic GT. With one difference. Vacuum boost instead hydraulic boost will fail often brakes.
Yes If you don't have your own shop. Your own tools. Do not do it.
Anything made after 2000 is a mandated mess of engineering.
Lease new and let somebody else live with the post warranty problems. My nephew leased a 94 LSC. He said the best thing the dealer talked him into was leasing it. He bought a 84 Impala and rebuilt it. 90 days before the lease was up. He drove a rental until the Impala was done.
He did not have to drive the Lincoln to the dealer. It was still there 'waiting for parts.'
I have a Trax and it also is not going to make it to 100,000 miles. Oil changes at 50%, fluid flushes and maintenance at much less than recommended intervals can't make up for piss poor engineering.
Brilliant (as usual).
Great finds as normal
Great stuff
I have accounts with 3 used car dealers. One that only buys salvage cars under 50k. Lots of wierd problems. Including a back of one car welded to another. 2017 chevey traverse. Took a bit to find.
Would like to know how the conversation went between the guy who took it back and the auction house.
Another Ivan Awesome....
A bad fuse and a relay 90 degrees out of orientation....
Now they will take it back for an auction refund....
Wow!! That fuel leak at the end was a surprise! Sucks it's such low mileage and rotted as bad as it is