xTool D1 Pro 20w Review | The Best Laser EXCEPT... (1 month later)

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  • Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024

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  • @timt1346
    @timt1346 2 месяца назад +1

    How many passes should it take for a D1 Pro 20W to go through 1/4" basswood? In lightburn, I try 12 passes at 15mm/sec and 100% power and I still end up with adhesions. The first layer goes through fine, but either it seems to run out of laser waist focus, or it just doesn't seem to punch through all the way. I'm not quite sure how the stock software seems to deliver more power, but xtool creative space is horribly inefficient when it comes to engraving and I can't stand using it for anything except very basic shapes and cuts.

  • @nobody3692
    @nobody3692 25 дней назад +1

    Does damping or soaking the wood first affect charging ? Thanks for making the fire hazards a point. Our 1st work shop burt and we jus got one of these for the new one. im soo weary of fire now, im nervous to take it out the box.. after seeing the depth & detail my mind is already making things.

  • @tomkrc6157
    @tomkrc6157 Год назад +3

    Purchased the D1 Pro 20W. It was delivered 4 days ago. The diode unit focus point thumb screw is stripped. I've been calling, emailing, bot chatting, and even sending emails to executives via LinkedIn for the last 2 days. The only response I've received is from someone telling me they will make sure everything is okay. Well, everything is definitely not okay. The manufacturing quality of the unit is unimpressive. I can think of better ways to spend $1,500.

    • @luisescoto6920
      @luisescoto6920 10 месяцев назад

      Hi, did you get a solution? Im thinking on getting one

    • @Mriya6
      @Mriya6 7 месяцев назад

      Any follow-up?

    • @Dawns_Creative_Carousel
      @Dawns_Creative_Carousel 4 месяца назад

      It isn’t a $1500 machine even with all the bells and whistles 😂 start a return 🤷🏻‍♀️ that’s why I typically order from Amazon BECAUSE they deal with ALL that and you don’t have to do anything but start a return and wait for your new one 🫶

    • @Dawns_Creative_Carousel
      @Dawns_Creative_Carousel 4 месяца назад

      @@luisescoto6920I’m getting one I don’t go by everyone else’s opinions. I have read reviews watched many many many videos it’s now between the d1 20W or the creality falcon 2 22W…. But I feel I’m getting this machine, they sell them refurbished on their site and warranty them for a full year

    • @austinporter4285
      @austinporter4285 9 дней назад

      @Dawns_Creative_Carousel amazon definitely deals with a lot but it depends if he found this out within 30 days... I've been wanting to get a d1 but it seems like the sutomer service from xtool is really lacking and a lot of people say it breaks within the first year... im probably gonna call them tomorrow to see if I can talk to someone before I order. I haven't really found a company that competes with tools reviews/wastage/and price when you you look at all 3 together

  • @BrianUpward
    @BrianUpward 6 месяцев назад +1

    Is there any sort of reference chart for the most efficient speed and power to use for different types and thicknesses of wood?

  • @darrenwallace4431
    @darrenwallace4431 2 года назад +5

    sensational review. Thanks for bringing actual capabilities of the D1PRO as opposed to specs. Would you consider doing a review on what other materials it can engrave, steel/stainless/acrylic. regards Darren

    • @wittworks
      @wittworks  2 года назад

      Thanks Darren! I just got some black acrylic and am trying to get my hands on some steel (besides rulers and saw blades). Got any specific ideas? Also I have the new blue laser to try for those metals (but have zero experience - so everyone will benefit from my learning curve 😝)
      My previous review of the d1 I did some other materials like leather, but not metal.

    • @darrenwallace4431
      @darrenwallace4431 2 года назад

      @@wittworks : Im looking at buying a D1 pro and want to find out which laser to buy and want to no what the standard 20W laser scope can do with cutting and engraving ( as you have shown in the last video)as opposed to what scope the new blue laser has and what materials and operations they are best suited too . I want to both cut and engrave softwood timbers and also would like to be able to engrave and cut acrylics and engrave stainless steel tags if the laser type allows.Wanted to go for the extension rails and air assist unit which seems essential. Absolutely love your impartial comments and have subscribed and will be watching any follow up videos you post. Keep them coming if you have time.

  • @tidakadaide
    @tidakadaide 2 года назад +5

    Great review. Looking at getting one and most other reviews feel like paid adverts! Good to see someone who gives some realistic reviews.

    • @wittworks
      @wittworks  2 года назад +1

      Thank you! I’ve been messing with a cheaper alternative and it’s made me realize how easy the xtool is. I spent a month trying to get this cheap laser to work. If you can get around the customer service time zone difference it’s a great machine

    • @tidakadaide
      @tidakadaide 2 года назад +1

      @@wittworks thanks for that, I have been wondering if a cheaper laser would be a better option. Given you had issues, I might just go to the Xtool. I am looking at the kit with the rotary tool and the infra-red laser aswell.

    • @wittworks
      @wittworks  2 года назад +1

      Nice. I’ll have a video in a few weeks hopefully on the comgrow z1. It works but is finicky. I’ve had no issues with the xtool.

  • @terryevans1976
    @terryevans1976 Год назад +5

    Air assist is really of value during cutting operations as it keeps the kerf clean. The key for clean engravings is a mixture of very, very, light air assist (just enough to keep your lens clean), and lots of exhaust air. When you engrave you want the soot to rise and then be carried away by your exhaust air as quick as possible before it settles back down on your work. With these open frame lasers this is difficult to accomplish. An enclosure with an exhaust fan will help keep your engravings cleaner.

    • @wittworks
      @wittworks  Год назад

      I now have an enclosure and exhaust fan and smoke purifier and it’s exactly like you described!

    • @lucioja6708
      @lucioja6708 Год назад

      @@wittworks what kind of enclosure, etc... are you using? I really want something enclosed, but want more than the 5W.

    • @ronaldbaconator9876
      @ronaldbaconator9876 Год назад

      ​@@lucioja6708 you

    • @ronaldbaconator9876
      @ronaldbaconator9876 Год назад

      ​@@wittworks the last time

    • @ronaldbaconator9876
      @ronaldbaconator9876 Год назад

      4:49

  • @Ringwraith19
    @Ringwraith19 5 месяцев назад

    It's been a year. Any additional thoughts on the machine compared to others available? It's more difficult than ever to find trustworthy reviews. RUclips is flooded with "experts" just taking money from these companies. It's a mess.

  • @Dawns_Creative_Carousel
    @Dawns_Creative_Carousel 4 месяца назад

    The prices have come way down since this video I feel because of the s and the p maybe?

  • @ericmichalowski9582
    @ericmichalowski9582 2 года назад +2

    Mad I bought the D1 and then shortly after the D1 Pro came out I wonder if they'll have an upgrade program

    • @wittworks
      @wittworks  2 года назад

      Yep. I did a secret “dark side” video about it that I haven’t released yet. You can see it here: People are angry. We need to talk about the Dark Side of xTool.
      ruclips.net/video/b3E_Fk2RHK8/видео.html

  • @josephdavis2427
    @josephdavis2427 Год назад +2

    They are an infrared diode and cds cell sensor. The tab blocks the beam, similar to the perforated wheel on an old school mouse.

  • @dat-zik
    @dat-zik Год назад +2

    Amazing and honest review, I now know which one I will be getting. Thanks for your help!

  • @kennethyuen9849
    @kennethyuen9849 5 месяцев назад

    Did anyone else realized that they got Rick Rolled?

  • @davidmeyer9204
    @davidmeyer9204 2 года назад +2

    See. Your videos are good when you talk! Thanks for sharing.

    • @wittworks
      @wittworks  2 года назад +1

      Thank you David! 🤩

  • @xXs3renityXx
    @xXs3renityXx 7 дней назад

    Is there a link for that test file ?

  • @j.4941
    @j.4941 2 года назад +1

    Especially the comparison with a cnc ist great! Thanks for the video!

  • @billgould7957
    @billgould7957 2 года назад +2

    Just curious. Would a 5 or 10 watt even be worth it, because you can just tune down the output wattage of the laser? -50% power =10w for example

    • @wittworks
      @wittworks  2 года назад +4

      That's correct. I don't think the 5w is worth it. 10w is good if budget is tight. Obviously the 20w is best and you have the full range of the power.

    • @andrewfischer6055
      @andrewfischer6055 2 года назад +1

      i have the 5 watt. takes two passes to go through 1/8 plywood. i would most definitely do the 10watt or 20 watt. i will be getting the 20 watt once it is not $599.00, so i am waiting for a sale

    • @wittworks
      @wittworks  2 года назад +1

      Good call. I have the 20 and 10. I like the options with the 20. However, I can get cleaner cuts on thick wood with my cnc. But for 1/4” and under, the 20w is great.

  • @jasoncurtis2948
    @jasoncurtis2948 4 месяца назад

    I believe I just got rick rolled

  • @fyfoh
    @fyfoh Год назад +1

    The limit switches are probably Hall effect sensors.

  • @sleepindagarden2600
    @sleepindagarden2600 2 года назад +1

    That was a very informative video. Thanks for that, because I have been wondering whether I should get one. Curious of your recommendation between this and the Sculpfun S10.

    • @wittworks
      @wittworks  2 года назад

      Thank you Spencer. I haven’t used the S10. It’s been offered to me, but, I don’t have the time or space to review every laser out there 🤭
      What are you going to use it for mostly?
      Given the three I have, I still think xtool is the premiere in the category and you can’t go wrong.
      What is intriguing to you about the s10? Price? I have a comgrow z1 that I’m reviewing soon that looks very similar and is cheaper. It’s decent.
      I would say, once you go 20w, it’s hard to go back to the 10. I have two 10w units and I use the 20w exclusively. Even if I don’t need all the power, I can increase the power and increase the speed, which gives me a fast run and an output similar to 10w on slower speeds. That said, nothing bad with 10.

  • @hangar88
    @hangar88 2 года назад +1

    Where can I find Brandon's Speed test, I'm a 100% newb here. Thanks for the videos man

    • @wittworks
      @wittworks  2 года назад

      Thank you! You have to put your email in at the top of this page: www.makeorbreakshop.com/project/makeblock-xtool-d1-laser-engraver-review

  • @crustycurmudgeon2182
    @crustycurmudgeon2182 Год назад +2

    Thanks for the Rick-Roll!!!

  • @ServicePrudence
    @ServicePrudence 15 дней назад

    490 Baby Valleys

  • @OntheFarmAus
    @OntheFarmAus 11 месяцев назад

    I returned recently my xtool 20w pro. It didn’t cut colour acrylic and tried so many times to get the engraving to work also. The smell of acrylic burning is so toxic it gave me a headache. I had to sometimes run a 5 pass to get it to cut the 3mm acrylic and you could really see and smell the burnt melted acrylic. Might be an ok machine but definitely not for cutting and engraving acrylic.

  • @uhstube74
    @uhstube74 10 месяцев назад

    I m new to laser machine and in market to use for making pop up cards from cardstock paper and some miniature wood pieces. I have Cricut maker machine.
    1) does it work on cardstock paper making intricate cuts or too strong for it?
    2) other tool air assist or honeycomb is optional in such application? like to try first and gradually like to add accessory.
    3) what is longevity of this machine? I read mixed review on amazon
    4)Looking at xtool d1 pro 10w or 20w . I see diff of 500 $ between them. Should I go with 20w ? Does 10W cut more intricate cuts then 20w?
    Quick reply (if u can) will be great

  • @j.4941
    @j.4941 2 года назад +1

    This is really a great video, but do you know what’s missing out there?
    A real comparison of the alternatives: xTool D1 pro vs. Atomstack vs Atezr vs Ortur… basically: all the available 20W-machines.
    It feels like every male had their sponsored reviewers, but no real comparisons.

    • @wittworks
      @wittworks  2 года назад +1

      Yes. I’ve had atomstack and Ortur offer me machines to compare. Haven’t taken them up on it yet.

    • @j.4941
      @j.4941 2 года назад +1

      @@wittworks I could just say: I would really love such a comparison as I find it hard to decide which to buy :).

    • @henriksvensson2836
      @henriksvensson2836 Год назад

      @@j.4941 Isnt Atomstack more for wood laser works?

    • @j.4941
      @j.4941 Год назад

      @@henriksvensson2836 How so? I mean, they are all 20W diode with a similar wavelength - why would one be "more for wood"?
      I don't think there's a difference regarding material. Which is why I'd love to see a proper comparison.

  • @brianmagnusson7498
    @brianmagnusson7498 Год назад +1

    I like those limit switches, and I wish they did the same thing with the xcarve. I’ve broken a couple things because of that not having any limit switches.

    • @wittworks
      @wittworks  Год назад

      IVE BROKEN SO MANY XCARVE SWITCHES!

    • @henriksvensson2836
      @henriksvensson2836 Год назад

      Hi, looking to buy my first D1 pro, is xcarve some switches that are on D1 pro or are Xcarve another laser engraver brand?

  • @MarionOsborn-h9o
    @MarionOsborn-h9o 23 дня назад

    Mayer Tunnel

  • @CaraRamirel-r5s
    @CaraRamirel-r5s 18 дней назад

    Robel Mount

  • @DeQuinceyRobert-l1k
    @DeQuinceyRobert-l1k 29 дней назад

    Davis Radial

  • @poepflater
    @poepflater Год назад

    a 65 x50cm unit with 20W head and usb port is $191 imported at the moment including shipping.

  • @R_M45
    @R_M45 2 года назад +1

    I’ve been using xcs with my D1 I’ve found that the framing is more accurate the light burn

    • @wittworks
      @wittworks  2 года назад

      cool! it works now with the update

    • @bhutch216
      @bhutch216 Год назад

      Not even close. Lightburn is framing wrong because you don’t have the correct settings for your crosshair.

  • @scientist100
    @scientist100 10 месяцев назад

    How does this compare to the Glowforge not taking into consideration the enclosure and the exhaust adapter? I have the Glowforge Pro but would like a backup just in case.

  • @Dawns_Creative_Carousel
    @Dawns_Creative_Carousel 4 месяца назад

    Did you use the air assist and also do you recommend putting an exhaust on

  • @tihzho
    @tihzho Год назад

    Shame diode lasers cannot cut expanded PVC (SINTRA) sheet. :(

  • @brightsides6581
    @brightsides6581 Год назад

    Hi can we fit xtool d1 laser head on any other brand laser frames like sculpfun Or Atomstock Or outur

  • @edward1330773
    @edward1330773 2 года назад +1

    Can you try cutting leather with it

    • @wittworks
      @wittworks  2 года назад +1

      It cuts leather easily. I showed some samples in my original review video. You can see it at 13:20 here: ruclips.net/video/bejjgieXvsU/видео.html

  • @Curious_Skeptic
    @Curious_Skeptic 2 года назад +1

    Good Review. I'm not even thinking anything under 20Watts. I really rather max power. Wish Xtool had the quad 40Watt! The issue is, the bed is tool small to justify it. I want to do 'cnc' type panel cutting for cabinet making, larger projects. Maybe, I'm better buying a cnc machine, plus a 20Watt D1 Pro/. Best of both! :)

    • @wittworks
      @wittworks  2 года назад +1

      Ty! After using the 20w, when I use the 10w I'm just disappointed. Would the extension rails be big enough? Probably not. I might be testing out a 50w co2 soon, but the bed size is small.

    • @Curious_Skeptic
      @Curious_Skeptic 2 года назад +2

      @@wittworks RUclips... drives me nuts. I click away from my reply and it's gone! Thanks for reply! Extension table will be a must. Bigger is just smart. After some research, I'm seeing the old 'the right tool for the job' applies. Too many are expecting laser diodes to replace cutters. Not what they are made for. They can do it, but makes no sense if you are cutting anything thicker than 1/8- to maybe 1/4" material.
      Love to see the 50w co2. My personal view is, smaller 20W diode with all the accessories, and then invest in a good table top cnc for the big stuff(stepcraft). Two purpose designed and built tools will in the end, be a smarter investment with many more options. Stepcraft cnc offers a laser head option at a very reasonable price. The Xtool is really to learn on. I'm always about buying the best tool I can afford with the best life expectance. 1500 budget for laser system, 2500 budget for cnc. 1000 budget for any add-ons are if I need to spend a little more to get a better system. I'm amazed how cheap cnc and laser is compared to just 3 years ago! 5k for a modern engraving and fabrication hobby shop? Heck, for another 800, I can throw in a festool track saw system and do just about anything! It's insane!

    • @wittworks
      @wittworks  2 года назад +1

      @@Curious_Skeptic i agree on the specific tool for the job. I have an xcarve, but wish I had the shapoko.

    • @Curious_Skeptic
      @Curious_Skeptic 2 года назад +1

      @@wittworks Unless I'm missing something, looks like Shapoko would be limiting for cabinet work. Odd sizing of tables. 33 x 33 for under $3k is attractive, but it's that extra couple inches for cabinet work I'd miss. 25-26 x 36-42" would give the cnc more ability to produce case work. Modern design, most upper cabinets are 36" height or more. Again, maybe, looking at point to point, cnc, panel cutter all in one just isn't , wait for it, on the table.

    • @wittworks
      @wittworks  2 года назад +2

      You want an avid.

  • @briansooy3125
    @briansooy3125 Год назад

    I think they added the color & sent those out to everyone to make sure people knew this was a new item without confusion that it is just another push of D1 original marketing. Very smart of them if so.

  • @muhammedirshaad
    @muhammedirshaad 10 месяцев назад

    Want to get into this as a side hustle. D1 pro is really expensive for me though compared to something like atomstack X7 Pro. Should I bite the bullet and spend that extra on the D1 with 20W to start with?

    • @wittworks
      @wittworks  10 месяцев назад +1

      I haven't used others, but I think they're all relatively the same at this point. However I wouldn't get less than 20w. i think there should be a decent black friday sale

  • @lucidfxproductions
    @lucidfxproductions Год назад

    Hello, I have an tool D1 Pro 10w and I lost the power supply cable. I tried reaching out to the customer service and they will not tell me the specs on the supply. Instead, they want me to spend money on their website and screenshot me buying nothing, than once I pay for nothing they will send out the part I need from a 3rd party source. It is very odd and they will not give me any information. Can someone please tell me the specs of their power supply and where I can get one?

  • @andrewturner1714
    @andrewturner1714 Год назад

    Quite extensive rick roll there pal

  • @DJxNOTxSOxNICE
    @DJxNOTxSOxNICE Год назад

    How would you compare this to something like the X Carve with a laser?

    • @wittworks
      @wittworks  Год назад

      I hate my xcarve. Selling it. I’d get a laser that is dedicated to the job

  • @thewuf
    @thewuf Год назад +1

    I've been Rick-Rolled...

    • @wittworks
      @wittworks  Год назад +1

      🤗 thank you for paying attention

    • @thewuf
      @thewuf Год назад

      @@wittworks 🙂

  • @jaykepley5238
    @jaykepley5238 2 года назад +1

    Very interesting!

    • @wittworks
      @wittworks  2 года назад

      Endless possibilities!

  • @rgcrowman3188
    @rgcrowman3188 Год назад

    can you tell me if you can make a line width .013' and .050" deep

    • @wittworks
      @wittworks  Год назад

      The laser spot size is 0.08*0.10mm. So it can make anything larger than that. You would adjust the power and speed until you get the depth you want.

  • @philoara5647
    @philoara5647 2 года назад

    Merci pour
    toutes vos vidéos. Pensez vous
    que la xtool d1 pro puisse
    remplacer pour la découpe de
    15 mm d’une CNC
    en terme de rapidité /
    passes?

  • @willieevansese8752
    @willieevansese8752 16 дней назад

    4875 Cindy Meadow

  • @DesignDreamsLLC
    @DesignDreamsLLC Год назад

    Can this cut 0.5mm aluminum?

  • @benjaminpastrana9662
    @benjaminpastrana9662 Год назад

    does it cuts clear acrylic?

  • @Hamiora_art
    @Hamiora_art Год назад

    Awesome Review!

  • @The_HomeHandyman
    @The_HomeHandyman Год назад

    Thanks very much for this video. It helped me understand a lot more of what the capabilities of this machine is. I'd be very much interested in how well these cut 1/8th inch plastic and thin 1 to 2 mm of metal would be.

    • @tihzho
      @tihzho Год назад

      Diode lasers cannot cut metal very well, maybe shim steel.

    • @The_HomeHandyman
      @The_HomeHandyman Год назад

      @@tihzho Thanks for the info.

  • @AL83RTO1
    @AL83RTO1 Год назад

    Are there any clases to take on how to use the xtool d1 pro?

    • @wittworks
      @wittworks  Год назад +1

      I’ve been thinking about making one!

  • @krzysztofparda6482
    @krzysztofparda6482 Год назад

    Will it deal with cutting 18 mm pine wood? Is one pass is not harmful for diode laser? I don’t want invest in CO2 because i need bigger frame and workarea

    • @wittworks
      @wittworks  Год назад +1

      The 20w cut through 1.25” (31mm) but it wasn’t clean. I would guess 18mm would be fine. I would do tests on scraps and then determine the best speed, power, and passes. I prefer doing lower wattage with more passes - it chars and burns less.

    • @krzysztofparda6482
      @krzysztofparda6482 Год назад

      @@wittworks That would be perfect because I consider to buy this laser to cut pine wood 18 mm max but first i need to know how many passes does it take and what are the best settings for this type of cutting

    • @krzysztofparda6482
      @krzysztofparda6482 Год назад

      what is the work space of this? and can it be bigger?

    • @wittworks
      @wittworks  Год назад

      @@krzysztofparda6482 400mm ish. They sell extension rails that double the length. Check out NEJE MAX if you need something massive.

  • @victitova3811
    @victitova3811 2 года назад

    Do you know by chance how many hours it can work (per day)?

    • @wittworks
      @wittworks  2 года назад +1

      I’m not entirely sure, but I don’t think there’s a daily limit. But laser diodes have an hourly life, so you’d run through that (and other hard wearing parts). I believe that xtool has those hours listed in their website.

    • @bhutch216
      @bhutch216 Год назад +3

      50,000 hours. That’s 5.7 years if you were running at 100% 24/7 so you’ll be hard pressed to kill it that way. Some other mechanical failure will make it unusable before that.

    • @wittworks
      @wittworks  Год назад +2

      That’s great. I agree that something else will fail before then!

    • @bhutch216
      @bhutch216 Год назад +1

      @@wittworks I have a 10w diode that is ran at 100% for every job. It’s 7 years old and runs probably 40 hours a week and still engraves the same as day 1.

  • @redwinecustomfabrications8970
    @redwinecustomfabrications8970 Год назад +1

    Can you engrave metal?

    • @wittworks
      @wittworks  Год назад

      I have not tried yet but they claim you can on some metals. I have a new IR head for it that is for jewelry metals but haven’t had any materials yet to test it out.

  • @Steve.Garrison
    @Steve.Garrison Год назад

    @8:45 A "proper education" because they only know metric? What an insult. I use imperial and metric interchangeably. You should educate yourself about what a slope test is to determine the thickest cut you can make.

  • @albertlavorata9359
    @albertlavorata9359 Год назад

    How stupid…..gets all pissy with calling it a 3/4” board, then says it’s a 1”x6” board !!!

  • @baroneroberto3400
    @baroneroberto3400 Год назад

    I know nothing about laser etching, cutting..... Can this machine etch, inscribe metal ?