Silicon Wars 2024: Snapdragon vs Exynos vs Apple vs Google vs MediaTek
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Which is the best SoC for 2024? Is it the Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Gen 3? Or maybe the Samsung Exynos 2400? What about the Apple A17 Pro, or the MediaTek Dimensity 9300? Is the Google Tensor G3 a contender?
Join Gary Sims as he dives into the complexities of 2024 silicon: CPUs, architecture, GPUs, raw performance, and more.
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I had bad experience using mediatek processors 10 years ago and kinda sweared off using it.
But after hearing that mediatek dimensity series are actually really good I decided to try it again when I have to decide between dimensity or exynos version of the phone I was gonna get.
Using it for a week now and I can say that dimensity is really good and truly changed my opinion of Mediatek now
Lmao that was ten years ago. Mediatek processors for the last 5 years at least have been great. Except for the low end ones.
@RaffyART1995 yeah so? My point still stands
I traded my pixel 8 pro for a galaxy s24 ultra and if you had told me they had the same processor and I didn't know any better I'd believe you. Chipsets pretty much reached the good enough stage for a phone with the snapdragon 888. Optimisation counts for so much now (caveat is that I don't play games on my phone)
Yeah, the difference at this point to me is power efficiency. My Pixel 7 Pro is horrible in that regards. Pixel 8 Pro should be better but I am not really willing to switch now because it still runs perfectly fine otherwise…
@thomasa.243 yeah efficiency improvements for tensor between g2 and g3 seem to be massive. The pixel 8 pro had really good battery life in my experience. Never used a pixel 7 but read plenty of complaints about battery life.
I stay with Google phones only because I get the latest Android update ASAP. If it wasn't for that I probably would have went with Samsung
@@nikc1313 Yup. Plus, I mean, the glossy aluminium elements but they have kept that on the Pixel 8 Pro. Unfortunately 😅.
I had the Pixel 4 before and that thing, after 3 1/2 years of owning, still got me through one day with 20% left. I have to recharge the Pixel 7 Pro at least once for a bit to get through the day. I sent it to the repair centre and they said: "This is normal." Ruins it for me
That's a pretty major caveat
Just waiting for 8 Gen 4 to finally upgrade from my Snapdragon 865 Powered S20 FE 5G.
I would like if pKV/Qemu is supported by Android and higher end phones come with display out over Type-C - a combination of two basically means your phone can completely converted into a PC.
same, hopefully no thermal issues with phoenix core and have high power efficiency
Yeah,Android 15+ Android Virtual Framework for a virtual library for Android
Oryon for sure.
S25 will come with Exynos 2500
Amazing video!!! Thanks!! We learn a lot!
Just one suggestion: I think we can skip just reading out items written ontables and charts unless there's extra info over and above what is written
Good to see u after long !! 👋
You should've compared sd8 gen 3 in base s24 because I think it would've been a bit slower to compensate for smaller phone. Or could've gone the other way and used exynes on S24+
Hi @AndroidAuthority please add the numbers for Dimensity 9300 (Vivo X100 pro) for the Geekbench 6 score slides because the 9300 beats the Snapdragon it seems. It is worthy of discussion at least.
Make him a regular
More videos explaining the latest developments and efficiency of the latest GPU/CPUs in mobile please. Lots of love and respect to #garyexplains
Only thing is that Apple went with 64 bit cores first and in house clean room design as well that brings the power im a android device user myself
Thank you teacher Gary Sims!
Seen S24 ultra almost hit 7400 in some GB benchmarks. Other Android phones with the SD3 also hover around there, and this chip is on the 4nm process like the 14 pro, but SD is clearly ahead, and the Apple can't touch the GPU power of the SD3.
You're comparing apples with oranges lol
Loads of real-life tests show it is not just about brute force benchmarks and that optimisation can make a big difference. For example, iPhones have slower SSDs (half) for sequential read/writes but are twice as fast as the S24U at transferring data on and off the device! Also, current GPU tests show Genshin at 59FPS on iPhone but only 53FPS on S24U. I saw a rendering test where the creator used four apps, and the iPhone beat S24U in everyone!
If benchmarks are important then the S24U is not far behind. But if you are grounded in reality, then the iPhone is a killer.
@amfrepo If status is important to you, stick with apple, if you want a feature rich experience, Samsung is in a league of it's own.
I switched from apple for the 1st time, and got the S23U 1tb version, and I couldn't be happier!
The user experience and customisation is levels above apple, and I had enough with my iPhone battery losing ~15 - 20% each year after normal everyday use. The 23U still shows it's battery health ~98% (couple of weeks shy of a year), and every update Samsung provides improves optimisation for all apps. Apple updates just degrades battery life lol.
I've used the latest iPhone and the redmagic 9 pro with the SD3, and the apple doesn't even come close to it's gaming performance! Not in the same realm, haven't used the S24U though, and I don't use phones for gaming.
Apple "should" be waaaay ahead with it's 3nm chip, it's much lighter operating system, software to suit it's hardware etc.. but this is definitely not the case as I've used both, and imagine if apple introduced a plethora of multitasking features and customisations like Samsung do, the battery life would be absolutely disastrous.
Even switched from the ipad to the s9 ultra and again, couldn't be happier, especially with its gorgeous wide-screen oled display, which is 2nd to none!
You can keep apple and their marketing, I'm a realist, and my S23U is a feature rich multitasking beast that can be customised to your hearts content, unlike 🍎
One charge still gets me through the whole day with ease, where my prior "Apple pro" started to lose its battery life after a few months, and after a year, it lost almost 20%.
It's personal preference, and for me, I definitely won't be going back to apple and their marketing shenanigans, I'm so done with them.
It's like being freed from prison when switching, I guess that's where they get the term "jailbreaking" 😂👋
Even exynos crushes a17 bionic in gpu raw performance .😂😂😂
Lol just admit Apple crushes and The Android numbers, dont be such a pathetic fanboy
Its wild how far android is ahead now considering apple had like 2-3 generational leap in gpu just a few years ago
Pls compare s24 exynos with s24 sd, not with the plus model. Apples to aplles
Please could you answer my questions why you stopped from making speed test G 😢
Because it was a shit test just like the Geekbench he uses now.
Even having those great numbers, in real life usage, if you are not using your phone for gaming, these benchmarks are all the same. You are better off having your phone from last year or for the last 2~4 years unless it is already not performing good. So stop trading your old phone to a newer one every single phone release and use your money for other important things.
Why not show the single core and multi-core performance of the iPhone 14 pro?
Can someone explain what the issue is with the tensor G3? Its evidently clocked at lower speeds which explains it's performance in synthetic benchmarks.
However this has little to 0 consequence in everyday use from what I notice. I use this phone and have absolute 0 issues in all my tasks. Of course small software things, like lens transitions, choppy scrolling on certain apps can be fixed via updates but I dont see the issue with this chipset at all.
It has been noticeable that many smartphone users can have a great experience with 2-3-year-old chips as they are powerful enough to handle the average user workflow. These higher-performing chips are now overkill for most. Just gamers and those that may use pro apps on their phones (rendering and such-like). The Tensor 3 is excellent for day-to-day use, with solid performance, good thermals and average-above battery life.
People like to gossip about how tensor G3 is not performant or efficient but for everyday task it 100% does the job. I use a pixel 8Pro. Zero issues at all. No lag. It's all smooth. It might not be the best when it comes to benchmarks but benchmarks doesn't paint the whole picture.
Alot of us are needing more power because our smartphones have completely replaced our PC & Gaming Consoles.
IE: Red Magic 9s Pro+ or Asus.
Personally I believe snapdragon is better overall. It has less cores but puts out more GHz than Exynoss. I'm a heavy load multitasker and the amount of cores I have handle the load.
Yeah all of these are overkill for daily driving a phone usually. The Pixel will be worse at games and not as good at like video editing or audio rendering, a few people do that on their phones. More than that though I notice the little iterative improvements in cell modems and bluetooth, that matters more than raw power IMHO.
You'll are coping so hard. Imagine buying that G3 chip for flagship price only for it to disappoint compared to other similarly priced products.
@Android Authority @Gary Explains , why are console level games happening in iPhone 15 pro despite its lackluster gpu performance in wildlife...
UHH i expected this video to actually explain the details of each processor, how Geekbench works, etc, how to compare results, but this video is kinda incomplete. You have mentioned something about the difference between sustained performance and peak performance, but i didnt get any more explanation about that from this video. Anyways, maybe this video is not for me, and i have to have some prior knowledge before watching this. Basically im the wrong audience probably. But good video.
i think a phone like this years rog phone or s 24 ultra can score a bit higher in multiscore geekbench benchmark. Correct me if i am wrong.
Thank you , for the information
After seeing this video i would ask for a separate video about should anyone actually buy a pixel8 pro is there even a point in uts existence, asking as a pixel fan
Before Apple is 2 generations ahead but now Apple is only one generation ahead for normal person any Google Tensor, Samsung, MTK, Qcomm or Apple any company flagship chip get your work done as those chip ≤4nm and advance. Great video Garry
It is one generation behind lol. Apple's chips have stopped improving after A14 basically. Qualcomm has a lead in GPU for a couple years, now they are faster in multi core performance as well.
@@DragonOfTheMortalKombatin terms of SoC, Apple is on 3nm die, so it is 1 gen ahead in this regard.
Using geekbench to compare ios vs android makes 0 sense geekbech us heavily favouring ios
nuh uh☝🏻🤓
Thats a lie
The winner here is ARM.
Real silicon wars: kim kardashain vs kylie jenner vs (insert another plastic model)
Thanks Professor!
Loving the Exynos this time around 😊
You have a s24 with exynos?
Techmo proved how crap it is compared to sd.
Exynos users can brag to their iPhone friends now. 😂
Too bad that exynos is still exynos and isn't worth any attention whatsoever. That chipset was, is and will remain a failure
Exynos 2400 is proving to be banger here. Imagine what 2500 will do.
In these segments Google Tensor processor is the worst of all...😅
Most of the game developers are bases with snapdragon. And most of emulators only works well in snapdragon. So, if you are looking for gaming phone, grab a snapdragon.
Tbh I think the 8G2 is still the best chipset of all Androids despite the 8G3. I have both the s23 and s24 SD versions and my year old S23 still runs cooler and is more battery efficient throughout the day. I'm waiting for an update to see if this heat gets fixed if not I'm sending this POS back to sammy so they can shove their shitty soc back where it came from
Test the Asus ROG Phone 8. Let's see how the SD8G3 performs when properly cooled.
By properly cooled, do you mean with the external fan attachment? Or the standard phone? Using x-mode or no?
@@GarySims the standard phone. The cooling on gaming phones seems to be able to get better sustained performance from the SoC.
X-mode or not? The reason I ask is that I was looking into making a video like this but the difference between the ROG and S24 with SD isn't much, except when in x-mode.
@@GarySims I'm thinking do both. The effectiveness of X Mode can then be measured and compared. Speedtest G would be great though.
And what about the Red Magic 9 Pro in diablo mode?
Exynos is back. S24+ with Exynos is better thanthe S24 due to its bigger body and better cooling system too. I wish to see S24 Ultra with SD8 Gen3 For Galaxy ans S24+ with Exynos 2400 that would be more fair since its the best from Samsung because all other Chipset coming fro their best phone..
It isn't back, not even remotely close. That chipset was, is and will remain a failure
nah you wrong. Exynos 2400 is a really good chip. Fact.@@PanzerFaust1754
they use Samsung modems which overheat and drain a lot of battery while on data still. Not mentioning the phones and apps get optimized for the snapdragon hence laggy expierience with exynos, same shit from Samsung again.
As a person who used both flagship android and iphone, my suggestion is to go for a mobile where the os is optimised to its core. In this case it’s obviously ios. people talk about snapdragon gpu is better than a17 pro this time around. But genshin impact is capped at 60fps on almost all of the phones which use snapdragon 8 gen 3 although it is capable of supporting higher frame rates whereas apple supports 120hz gameplay. Although it depends on developer who made the game but still there is no point saying a particular phone has the better processor when the softwares or games are not taking full advantage or in this case not optimised. And this is only one of the greater number of examples. This is a fact which many hardcore android users fail to accept. If you ask me app optimisation and user experience is more important than the features provided by each platform. Although android is greatly superior in multitasking capabilities but there is polishness to be found while using it because of developers negligency and android manufacturers peasant’s mentality. I know this is due to android fragmentation but atleast higher end android phones should come with polished softwares and games. Sadly android manufacturers do not want to pay extra money to devs for such polishness because they know they can sell their devices by showing specs on paper.
Dude ain't no one going to read all that
thats where samsung ai summarization comes to play lol@@davijoneslockr
apple fanboi drivel and conjecture. no substance or facts. -3/10 read.
Important aspect of these SOCs is the chip transistor size and Apple has the best here which is TSMCs 3 nanometer chips. All other things being equal Apple's chip will be the most efficient and the fastest because of the small state of the art 3nm chip process from the world's leading chip maker, TSMC. Off course everything else isn't equal... Apple dominates most of these as well! Apple's chip is its own bespoke design starting from a license from ARM. They improve what is already there and make it better in particular their design of their own Operating Systems that use these SOCs. You can't beat this methodology.
They have beat this methodology and they did it several times. The leading flapship chipsets are the Dimensity 9300 and SD 8 gen 3, both made on TSMC 4nm nodes. Both beat Apple's A17pro on overall performance except on single core. Dimensity 9400 and SD 8 gen 4 will be on TSMC 3nm and surrounding leaks suggest a gain of 15-20%, making the difference even further.
Apple do however last long and offer great power efficiency, but that's because they produce entire phones, not just chips. The entire production line and the OS is optimized to run on apple hardware, that's the only distinct advantage it has. But that advantage also falls off when you look at the absurd pricing of apple phones
@@joshuakimmich9536 That's a big advantage! Apple's 3 nanometer chip is better physically than the rest and because of this they will have an advantage if they make use of it by all the other clever stuff that they are doing. They are already getting newer 3 nanometer E process for there next smartphones/computers/tablets. Because all of their machines is based on the same Apple silicon (bespoke design) and operation system, this is a HUGH advantage... any advances they make in one area the can use in their other devices, up to and including their new Apple Vision pro Googles! They are unbeatable. And don't forget it was ex Apple engineers that Qualcomm sed to improve their SOCs. Apple has sold over 2 billion iphones since they were introduced! I know what I will continue to use.
I thought AA doesn't want you anymore
No. Always been here, just focusing more on the Gary Explains channel.
Sd 8gen4 leaked score is 2845 in sc and that's the sad part bcs apple a18 pro will have 3500 in sc so again 20% behind Qualcomm is compared to iPhone despite launching it after a18 pro and that's the sad part it looks like Qualcomm will never catch up to apple in sc ever
iPhone 16 Pro Max is going to be very powerful
@@cheerful_crop_circle not in multi core but definately in single core that's were i am a bit disappointed with sd 8gen4
Where did you get that leaks. Regardless i don't really care about cpu scores. All does matters to me is the gpu scores and sustained performance which i would confidently say that the sd 8 gen 4 will again better chipset in terms of gaming.
@@mcappperspective6099 GPU doesn't matter bcs smartphone games are cpu bound pls do a research even genshin impact is a cpu bound where very smal percentage of GPU is used.
To that I say who cares? Are you like running a workstation video editing crypto mining operation on your phone?
Exynos 2400 in galaxy s24 plus version is faster than exynos 2400 in galaxy s24, maybe because s24 has a bigger cooling system.
It may also be due to having only 8GB of RAM, slower SSD speeds if 128GB and slower RAM.
Too bad that exynos is still exynos and isn't worth any attention whatsoever. That chipset was, is and will remain a failure
@@PanzerFaust1754 but the gap is much less this generation compared to the last exynos vs snapdragon.
@@69leonite I suffered enough with exynos s22+. I won't buy another Samsung device ever again.
What 2024????🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You Mean 2023 vs 2024🤣💀
Exynos and Tensor are may for each other 😂
Dragon Exynos is the Best!!! 👍🏻😎👍🏻
In terms of GPU snapdragon 2 generations ahead and cpu that's apple.
From tests I have seen, the A17Pro is 30% ahead in single-core CPU versus SD8G3, which is about two years old. And although the GPU in the S24U benchmarks well against the iPhone 15PM, in real life, the iPhone gets better FPS (Genshin is 15% better). Benchmarks are only part of the story. We now have AI and software that can improve an experience compared to just thrashing the cores like in benchmarks.
@amfrepo genshin tests seem questionable considering 8gen2 which is an older chip seemed to be getting 60fps on genshin so optimization seems kinda shit on genshin, on the other hand if we take a game like spongebob the cosmic shake iphone 15 pro max average 40fps~ on it in ultra settings while device with 8gen2 can achieve 60fps on same settings , let alone devices with 8gen3
@@thejoltmaster1231 Yes, it seems strange as the SD8G3 should at least match that. But that is how it is and I am just reporting it.
After 1nm fabrication then what? 0,5nm?😂😂
Actually it gets measured in Angstroms, which is why Intel is using 20A and 18A etc for the naming of its future process nodes.
To reach 1nm it will take so long . I hope even in 2030 we won't be reaching 1nm.
Benchmarks are useless.
Especially ray tracing.
Salty Apple-Fanboy is crying 😅
As an iPhone 15 user, I can say that apple's chip is best.
Which makes about as much sense as me saying, "As a OnePlus user, I can say Android is the best."
Samsung's Exynos flop project.
Company has being wasting money for a prolong period of time behind exynos but all are going to vain.
They should have to shut-down this flop project.
Too bad that exynos is still exynos and isn't worth any attention whatsoever. That chipset was, is and will remain a failure
@AndroidAuthority Bring back speed_test_G
garry on AA
hey this is same video on garry's channel
No, it isn't the same video, they are different.