Phone (2a): Snapdragon vs MediaTek
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- Опубликовано: 18 июн 2024
- Sit down with us as we find out which chipset is inside Phone (2a) and the process we used to compare Mediatek vs Snapdragon. Offering exclusive information about how they weighed up the Mediatek Dimensity 7200 Pro, Snapdragon 782G & 7s Gen 2 to see which came out on top for the Nothing's next phone.
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0:00 Intro
0:14 Meet Raymond
1:01 Chipset Announcement
1:11 Why the Mediatek Dimensity 7200 Pro?
1:46 TSMC Second Generation 4nm Process
2:57 What is TSMC?
3:14 4nm vs 6nm
4:05 AnTuTu benchmark scores
5:09 Why the "Pro"?
5:38 What is SmartClean?
6:56 NTFS optimisation
7:50 Phone (2a) vs Phone (1)
8:15 Goodbye Raymond
8:31 Outro 
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love that people who designed and create the product is explaining the product itself instead of marketing people 😆
Well he is product marketing people
Agreed! Nothing does a great job at being a brand made up of real people.
Indeed...
@@devaraft I'm back at software product management, marketing wasn't for me :P
@@raymondzhu8221 Hi Raymond! Do you think we´ll see Nothing working with social media companies to optimize performance/picture quality the way Apple (and recently Samsung) have done?
To be honest I've always been an Android fan and I absolutely adore Nothing at a company and product level, but I'm a huge photography buff as well, which is the only thing keeping me on the second hand Iphone 11 Pro I have.
Realistically, the only thing keeping me from jumping ship again to Android is the image/video quality the iphones have, and how simple to use their camera is. Would love to see the Phone 2 and 2a camera compared to older iphone models (11 to 13 maybe?) as I've been seeing that you can get these models for quite cheap second hand.
If they stay this transparent, i will always consider nothing products when buying. I currently use nothing 2 and i dont regret it one bit. Looking forward to future of nothing.
How's the camera bro ??
@@praveenrathode6565kind of average, pixel 7a is better in camera i believe, but considering everything it is totally worth it for 37k
@@praveenrathode6565 ok I will be honest. The camera needs work in the software department. The camera is good at most. They have good sensors so there is hope.
I wouldn't recommend it if you are solely going for camera performance. Go for pixel then.
I could say for sure, one of the best software experiences, if not the best. The design and OS are pretty solid. Looks and feels really premium.
Glyph is an add-on. You can live without it. It's not something revolutionary. It will improve too with updates and more usability.
I will rate it 9 as per my usage. I hope that helped.
In which country do you live bro?
keeps getting better and if you know how to properly apply the settings, its perfect@@praveenrathode6565
Definitely need more of Raymond, he explains things so well
8:11 wow, the guy is really checking flipkart. I guess this might be the first brand that is so serious about india since its inception.
india is a huge market.. look at vivo, oppo, oneplus.. all of them made big
@@ahwork which needs to stop! Kitna Paisa hum woh naalayak chini kutto ko khilayenge? Now that iPhone 15 and 15 Plus India mei bannke poore world mei export ho rhe hai toh they said it smells like curry and is dirty. Aur hum hai ki un logo ka hi dhandha bana rhe hai Jo sarphira hai aur kabhi bhi aake border pe baith jayega
Yeah but we don’t get same offers as US.
NEW Oneplus 12 was given with free storage upgrade nd you could literally give any broken phone in US to get $100 discount on cost of phone.
@@ahworkand that needs to stop! Why are we supporting the ones who'll be standing on our border tomorrow to take away our territory. Now that Apple has started making iPhone 15 and 15 Plus in India, Chinese are saying that those phones smell like curry. At least we cook you idiot COVID makers! #boycottchina
@@ahwork But that needs to stop asap! We are indirectly funding to threaten our own borders. We don't have an Indian company, agreed. But don't we have the integrity to save our borders by not endorsing chinese stuff?
I was going to say why not go with an old gen... But they actually did consider an older gen... So... That's great imo... I like how they actually compared.
its called marketing
bruh they made video explaining it thats not marketing@@LG-ms4ox
7s Gen 2 is still midrange the "Gen" in the name is just marketing lmao
7+Gen 2 is a lot better processor, and here in India Phone 2 with 8+Gen1 costs just £330
@@rrrr3666 They said they were considering 7""s"" Gen 2 , not the 7+ Gen 2 which are two completely different CPUs
People just listen to them first before being totally ignorant. Their reasoning really explains a lot and making a lot of sense
it is called marketing strategy then
Because most people lack common sense. Ironical how common sense isn't so common.
Hi please don't get misguided by this false marketing.
I think what they said was to misguide people I am not saying using mediatek chip is bad but the reason by which they justified themselves for using the mediatek is not at all true and doesn't hold very good.
by the way I never comment on the videos but seeing an computer engineer and listening to there stuff I could not hold my self back.
what about fucking design of the chip
manufacturing is just printing
completely misguiding the audiences
LIKE WTF are you talking about
are you comparing the architecture of the chip based on the nanometer size??? How does that even make sense
It's like judging the printed picture by the printer
it can be the case that printer can be the case that the printer can be wrong but has good art in it
and their can also be a good printer printing the picture of shit.
I am not saying printers do not matter, but you cannot say that we used good printers so you will have good designs. Having good printers does not by any means talk about the art or likeability of the picture
IT IS VERY IMMORAL FALSE ADVERTISING
@@rohitkumbhar4899 He never talked about architecture though? The talk about power efficiency definitely isn't false. And he went on to also explain the higher performance they got, and apparently the customization (idk if it's true or not, but it could also be another reason that they wouldn't have been able to customize anything with Qualcomm)
BTW I'm not a nothing fanboy, I own none of their products. I just couldn't understand your points.
@@rohitkumbhar4899kek
Would love to see Raymond again. Explaining Nothing products and the tech behind it "Like you're 5 years old" could be a great addition to an already freaking great roster of videos on this channel. Love the animations on this one. Simple yet effective and functional. Cheers!
Well done Nothing! Sharing information is better for the product than media speculation. Way to go!
Wow, this is one legendary vid in terms of information by any tech related channel, and my guy really explianed it like 5 years old.
his explanation skills were really good wish my professor had it
Not really, what he said makes sense but only upto a level.
Watch some other video to learn how 4nm vs 6nm compare.
@@HalP-fz3iy he explained just enough imo, i don't think an average user needs a full detailed comparison
@@Raj-mb6ukHe really just talked nonsense. Compared D7200 with 8Gen2 just because they've been made on same node.
Someone who doesn't even know about 4nm or 6nm isn't average. He's below average.
@@rrrr3666 yeah maybe, but a below average user also needs a device
4:26 absolutely
as a clueless plebian when it comes to tech specs, this approach is perfect!! especially for creating a mid-range phone, this sort of approach of addressing an audience that may not keep up with the latest tech innovations is just the thing ❤
You have done it. the Nothing yoututbe channel has finally reached peak singularity. with just one video you guys managed to remove all my negative perceptions about mediatek, while giving me so much entertaining tech information perfectly balanced by the animations on screen. Everything was superbly done.
I loved it. easily qualifies as one of the best tech videos of all time.
and the interviewer guy is so hilarious and entertaining he's just chillin, vibing, baiting the interviewee or something lol
that last scene was truly hilarious (and relatable).
Gj guys!
Dimensity 7200: ❌
Dimensity 7200 Pro: ✅
Oh
Thanks bro. I didn't waste 9 minutes. Because of your comment.
@@asath7853 video doesn't felt that long tbh. But it's enough to have some level of information.
@@asath7853It's mentioned literally right after the 1st minute.
should have been 7200 ultra
Honestly this is brilliant. The pure honesty and transparency. Love it.
I was very skeptical of them using an MTK SoC, but now that they've explained it like that, I'm very excited about the phone.
The chipset is a MediaTek Dimensity 7200 Pro, some people may be disappointed but if I understanded it correctly, the Pro version is a collaboration beetween mediatek and nothing specifically for the Phone 2a
And built by tsmc
@@iceynuel9066 The regular 7200 is also built by tsmc
It's not a Snapdragon 😶
Snapdragon is a brand and they make all kinds of processors like mid-range to high-range and I think mediatek is also a great brand of processors. How much I know, In India a lot of phones use the mediatek dimensity processors.
@@ROADTRIPNAVIGATER also mediatek is actually better for android app running and management. Not sure about it's image processing capabilities for camera though
I actually don't really care if the processor is a bit on the lower end, I really like the way Nothing has grown ....Keep it up, guys! I hope the 2a will be affordable, to me nothing os looks sick!
its not low end lol its very high if phone is around 25-30k
it is not lower end it is close snapdragon 888
The design of the 2a that's going around in the internet is a little concerning for me, i don't really like that design. Hopefully they'll make it look similar to Phone(2) or (1). That horizontal camera setup with the circular glyph around it, im not a big fan of it.
@@PerfectGaming_ytmutantNo, it's near 865.
not at all it is way better then 865@@rrrr3666
The voice of Raymond equivalence to Carl's voice is I think because of their origin which makes the pronunciation pretty similar resulting in more bassy version of Carl's original voice.
Spot on
Thank you. I love how you're slowly revealing the details of the phone, and the thought process behind it.
Is definitely consider this phone in the future.
I am so excited for this launch hope all goes well! I am rooting for you guys to do well! Congrats on everything!
I think that the 2 things Nothing needs right now is 1. Social Media Optimization ( this stands for all androids), to try and work with social media companies directly to optimize the app specifically for Nothing Phone. The second thing is a Nothing Software for both MacOS and Windows, to create seemless (wireless hopefully) file transfer and useful tools for connecting the phone with PCs, with nothing design style and user experience.
nah tbh first thing they need is a better camera
@@rael7982 not really, I mean sure a greater camera always is good, but I think it fits most users needs. I have the Nothing phone 1, paid 300eur for it , it has a solid camera and stabilization which suits most needs (photos for IG, videos for stories/traveling). I don't think a bigger sensor and better stabilization will make a difference worth the 100+ $ you would have to pay...
Hell nah, they should start making some new apps for the phone, like gallery, phone, clock, calculator etc. first…
@@rael7982they have really good cameras though
Iam agree with what you have said about it the need to work with all these social companies and maybe work with some game company too
Just a transparent company, explaining all the details about choosing the processor and it's benefits. Thumbs up 👍
❤ Love the transparency. It was totally great getting to know the technical part of the making process. You guys really are making tech fun sticking to your tagline. All the best for the NOTHING.
That's a solid host/content creator right there! Also the Visual representation in between the shots were so cool. Cheers!
Hey we definitely need more Raymond, love to see a phone manufacturer explaining the details of technology used instead of throwing buzz words or inventing new fancy words
It's weird but it seems as if Raymond's voice is scanned copy of Carl's voice.
I think they both are voice over artist for each other and lipsing whenever required.
The only difference is that Raymond's voice has more base.
What accent is this ? China born spending high school onwards in the US?
Lipsing - wtf is that?
I'm interested to whatever you've been smoking bro
Carl is a Swedish , is Raymond a Swedish too?
Love these! Keep up the great work team.
I bought the phone 1 back in December/Novenmber 2022, and i must say i am a big fan. I still use it to this day, but i cant let it go even tho the Phone 2 is here. I love the work keep it going, and im exited to see the 2a very soon!
Amazingly explained each component. I believe transparency is one of key aspects of nothing and it will create a niche for it with this approach
One of the best video explaining the chip set .....how it works & production!! 👏👍👍
I love the transparency about the phone as we are gradually coming closer to the launch also
How everything they are doing is justified in the video which answers all our questions.
Love this approach !!
Where can you find a company being this transparent explaining what they do and why they do it. Love being engaged with these info's great stuff
Customised chipset for Nothing 😮😮
Thanks bro you Sev my 8 m😅
this company is not small room 300 guys anymore
true but at least they tried to do something lol, the file transfer looks cool but thb i dont think many people actually care about 2x faster transfers, the average user is not a movie producer transfering 50GBs of vids each day lol.
@@R1L1. For an average user iPhone don't really matters if we r going down that path
@@R1L1. As a linux user I can confirm it's true what they are doing isn't a gimmick
Rn my file transfers 2 times fast from linux to Android compared to windows due to that bs old as hell ntfs
Crazy how Nothing express with such liberty in the video (eg: stuff like Snapdragon). Illustrations are a banger too.
Wow! Just simply amazing how you guys explained the tech and reason why. Thumbs up! 👍👍
That's Why I love nothing team,just explaining the work to very deep and proud to say that I'm a nothing user and will happy to see and get your newer products in future☺️.
Thanks
Nice to see the technical side of Nothing 😎
This level of transparency is something fresh in tech. I bought Phone(1) just because of it (and because is just beautiful pice of tech ;)0). Stay that way, have nice, good looking and affordable products and I will be with you for a long time :)
For now you are just the best brand in the business!
Loved Raymond, I love the defrag aspect with power draw, connect to it totally.
Wow how detailed this video was need more of them now. Hitting sub button
Raymond seems like a super cool guy to listen to, explains techy stuff really well, I guess even my grandma would understand what he is talking about 😂
Hope to see him in future here and hope his flight went well!
Nice video I appreciate the transparency 🔥🔥🔥
Yeah, it's called building up trust.
You feel like you will buy nothing phone lol
outside of just phone 2(a) this video delivers a lot of interesting insight into how our everyday tech works, great video!
It’s so good to see what are the new insights and perspectives of the people working in the industry itself and thank you to the nothing team for making such good content
They are changing the industry for sure. ❤
Please bring out Nothing Powerbank too, I'm not gonna buy one except Nothing's... waiting for the transparent design in which Nothing is the best❤
Things like that should be purchased from companies with reputable reputation and quality control in that department. Like Anker or some other manufacturers like Samsung and Xiaomi.
@@eyeofterra I agree, but I am hopeful of some really good design and it builds a sense of ecosystem!
Love the transparency and also being informed by the video itself
Okay, I don't think I have ever gotten to know this much information even from a tech RUclipsr....
Love the team of nothing to bring such insights for us the users 😊😊
I feel like I am becoming a Nothing Fan now. I really love the way they give information about their upcoming Phone.
They're all about transparency. But I seriously hope they don't fuck anything up in the future like other brands do. Cuz this brand, this is a KEEPER, they're deserving of all the hype they get.
I really respect this video and this company. I love how transparent you are in the manufacturing of your devices in both ideas and conception. You earned a potential customer awaiting the 2a.
What a great video, very interesting and easy to understand, even if you don't know much about tech (I actually know quite a lot). Keep going transparent like this!
Incredible explanetion, congratulation for the professionalism, proud to support this industry
Im so hyped
Mediatek Dimensity 7200 Pro
Great vid as always guys
Is cool to see all this behind the scenes stuff. Still loving my phone(1) tho!
8:03 best scene
Enough talk! Let's see it!
i love how this company is just so transparent, i love it, i currently have an xperia 1 v but i think in the next few year i'll heavily consider a nothing phone
Want more Raymond on the channel - it shows that deep improvements have been made in the phone when you explain it like that!
Summary - it has 7200 pro
Thanks
Thanks bro saves me ten min
Its is already reveal in first few sentence@idontknow8974
😅
Thank Vro 🌼
They invented TRIM for UFS storage like TRIM for SSD, nice!!
Uhm trim feature for ufs and also its started on emmc has been implemented since many years on android its not new though are they saying its their new feature ?
@@burgerparty I'm aslo interested is it really working on our current devices 🤔
@@ZAVADICHR Yeah, since Android 4 (yes from a decade ago), it runs trim every 24 hours while your phone is idle and charging. Otherwise it run on a reboot if your phone missed it for 3 days or more.
Great look for forward to 2a just got my ear2 a week ago love them ❤ respect from an 63 old guy from Denmark. 😊
Could've gone with the 7+gen2 :(
Yeah lol
Hope this brand will soon understand the Indian market 🎉🎉... Best wishes to nothing 🙏
this keyboard warrior knows more than the whole nothing team and already understood the indian market well i want to buy your 2nd launch in india where is the link?
@@asilentvoice8310u talking about nothing phone 2?
Can you explain a bit further?
@@asilentvoice8310hey bro he was just doing a comment not any statement of controversy according to my thoughts...❤
keep these videos coming pleaseee ❤
Raymond explain everything very nicely..😊❤
Quick question, is the Dimensity 7200 Ultra and 7200 pro are the same chipsets or are they a new line of chipsets specifically designed for 2a, because I am not finding anything about the pro chipsets on the internet.
7200 pro is like exclusive soc made for phone 2a for better software and hardware integration.
Yes, it's a custom chipset exclusive to the 2a designed together by Nothing and Mediatek. Listen from 5:09 it is explained the difference.
nobody knows for sure. its not out yet for people to test. it could be rebranded 7200 Ultra or a custom chipset that sits between normal and Ultra variant in terms of performance.
well it doesn't matter i would rather go for poco x6 pro with dimensity 8300 ultra for the same price phone 2a is going to launch@@miru2583
@@sanjaylord Thanks!
RIP custom rom support and gcam. If they worked with mediatek on the kernel level. If they both come to some agreement to release kernel sources just like snapdragon, people can make roms for it. So people can install custom roms for long term usage. I don't know if they can. If they can, it would be amazing.
?
Yup, hope they won't do any more mediatek phones.
Who cares
yeah it's probably worst for some people who's like to costum rom, but for people around UK that should be fine
@@nandha-one9819I care
i was really not a fan of mediatek processors. but this video, gave me new insights. thanks Nothing! looking forward to your new tech releases!
Man I love the mindset of Nothing! Really makes me trust the company, as a whole, more. I love how they genuinely explain their thought process and reasoning, instead of using complicated speech to confuse the customer
Carl Bhai😎
I want Nothing to make a great translucent/transparent looking mechanical keyboard now! I would love a pinch of red and blue opaque keycaps in between other transparent key caps for those Red and Blue keys would be awesome!
The file system looks amazing. Kudos to Nothing's team for integrating this in their phone. Keep innovating. These little details are what matters.
First off did Raymond catch his flight? I hope so!
I'm currently using the nothing phone two (since it was released) and absolutely love it. Just sometimes while in RUclips i don't get any option to switch back to potrait view from a full screen display unless I exit to home screen and need to log in back.
The phone 2a looks even more interesting and with you guys explaining it so well, I'd choose Nothing products with my eyes closed. Looking forward to a long journey. Keep up the good work. Thank you Nothing Team!
Got my Phone (2) today. Just showing off)
Make a review video 🙂
Make a review video 🙂
Make a review video 🙂
Make a review video
Make. Review video
Transparency = ✅ green flag
Thanks for keep the community looped in!
Yup we do wanna see more of Raymond on this channel.
I might get nothing phone 2a if I a good price
@@JohnHyperpopI’m using galaxy s10 rn, and it works stunningly tbh, but I’m considering upgrading because it doesn’t have 5G, high refresh rate screen, big battery and software updates. The iPhone 11 even lacks OLED display, type c port and has ancient bezels.
What a trash talk, iPhone 11 is never faster 😂, maybe in your dreams xD
@@JohnHyperpop nobody is going to buy an old ass iPhone from 2019 bro
I hope nothing phone 2a is well built
@@JohnHyperpop you're way too quick to judge. the phone isnt even out yet. if you want to compare spec, edge 40 uses 8020, not 9300. and the 7200 is pretty much similar to 8020 except the 8020 is less efficient. 7200 ultra is faster than sd778g+ which NP1 has and it never lag on me.
The processor is MediaTek Dimensity 7200pro plus 12gb of Ram.
You are welcome.
and 8gb ram booster
They are so nature and friend, good products with excellent team!!!
Great ending! thanks for these updates.
Why not 7+ gen2 this soc is a lowkey legendary
i guess they want to press the budget and get focusing on improving trough software
@@Izvmiiyeah
I guess that too
Bhai Bhai 💯
I'm a proud user of nothing phone 2 user. At the first time using this phone I've found some issues but after 2 or 3 updates, this is a perfect phone. Keep up the great work!!! I'll change my phone to nothing 5 maybe in the future.
It was really wonderful hearing all those technical details 😄
Carl BHAI ..📸🌱
they are targeting indian market.
Yo i like this company's approach, even if im not buying a nothing phone yet, i still learn something from the video, and it's entertaining to watch. Congrats 🎉
We need Raymond again.. and need a detail about the phones.. and upcoming phones..
8:12 Why is he watching flipkart in INR?
india market is core focus of nothing
Amazing strategy. I didn't know about this company but now I feel I'll buy it. They're way too cool
Can you Gift me a nothing phone Bhai 😂😂 (just kidding)
I love what you guys are doing. It's great to provide such transparency to your customers. I wish you'd make a 6.1"ish sized phone and I'd be all over it.
Good point. I am open to receiving alms please 🙏🏽
You're the best! You ask qns that a common man can have, and these answers are just so good. Thanks man!
Oof, was hoping for a SD 7 gen 2 at least
1 like = 1 minute of meditation (i really need this)
You made super job guys. Bought 2A in black and im very happy with the phone. Thank you guys!
In just 3 mins I knew bro's spitting just facts straight in face and No BS, it's very nice to see companies speaking this outloud.
Snaptek dimensicomm 7880 g plus ultra 👍🏻
🤣
Bruh no more