Yes. Yet I hadn't a Rakdos Commander Deck so I am extremly happy with the Endless Punishment Decklist. Compared to other PreCons around the 40 Bucks mark (for which you could preordered it), it is extremly playable right out of the box. Miracle Worker too though imo. I think if you play in Pods which say "No Infinity Combos or only one", you can actually bring it along like it is.
@@DaroriDerEinzigesomeone mentioned putting baba lasaga as the commander for death toll and it makes it instantly better. Not much better but a more fun experience
Agreed brotha! Kokusho and honestly junji as well. Kokusho dying burning people + getting you life back and drawing you a card if he dies on your opponents turn. Then if you play some kind of reanimate do it again. Rolling vortex only pinking people for 1 on their turn. Then being able to pay and stop the life gain player from healing for the turn
My suggestion is, if you are a new player stay away from the Endless Punishment deck. This archtype is similar to group hug where you need to properly assess threats and prepare to react to opponents gameplans far in advance. If you dont, you will be targeted immediately which may make the game unfun for someone new
@@KeianLocke Even if it is an enchantment ? It means for example you draw an enchantment because of your smoothering tite during opponent’s turn, you can cast it directly for the miracle cost with Aminatou ability ?
@@thibmout5744 erebos is crazy good in that deck, is an enchantment himself and allows you to draw a card on demand to get more miracle triggers on opponents turns.
@@tunez9391 I'm not super experienced, but I've heard that all of the Lost Caverns of Ixalan decks were pretty solid (my favorite being an upgraded Velociramptor deck), and I've also heard good things about Exit from Exile. I do own most of them, but I am not experienced enough to compare them well to other decks.
I originally wanted Endless Punishment, but then realized it's basically just the Rakdos version of my Liesa Shroud of Dusk build so I guess I'll get my first simic deck.
There is a lot of cool stuff you can do with the rakdos deck bro! Tauna was talking mostly about group slug but you can also do a bit of Rakdos spell slinger. The only condition is that your opponent Takes damsge on their turn. He also naturally replaces any instant that you shoot them with and grows larger while doing it because he gets the +1/+1 AND draws a card. The semic one has so much room for player and deck builder expression too though.
Ngl I think the Zimone one is more upgradable than you think! You can upgrade it by playing things like seasons Past and getting a ton of things back to your hand, genesis, you can add wincons that you then cheat out for cheap like manifest dreading a craterhoof, kodama of the east tree, lumera. We can also take our creatures we want with good effects and out them back to our hand by bouncing them while they are lands with meloku the clouded mirror. Landfall triggers Lotous Cobra, tireless provisioner. Etc etc. I agreed with a lot but I definitely see a ton of upgradeability
@@FrostyTheSwoleman manifesting craterhoof won't give the etb since craterhoof will have already been on the battlefield but pathbreaker ibex would be good to manifest and flip
@@mckenziestone3302 true but this is semic. Just flicker it and it will come back in faced up. Dsplacer kitten puts it online. Bounce it back to your hand meloku to put it to hand then play it. Cloudstone curio
I think this is the first time in god knows how long simic landfall has become interesting to me again. I mean, how many of the last 10 sets have been oh look, another simic landfall card that just does simic landfall. Granted its still landfall and I do like my landfall but it will be fun adding morph and megamorphs in, a couple more infinite combos besides the one included. I am definitly getting it.
I used to play mtg back in 2003 to 2008. Back then it was themes like direct damage, counter spell, sliver, goblin, elves. And planewalker just started around the time I stopped playing. I’ve been doing some research recently and want to get back into mtg. Found a community that plays commander. I’m thinking to start by buying the Endless Punishment precon. Other than this precon, is there any other precon that you guys would recommend? My old deck used to be a white blue deck. Emphasising on card draw, counter spell. And to get Akroma on the pitch asap lol
I'm not very good at the game but out of the four decks, the only one that draws cards and does stuff on other people's turn(in my opinion) is Endless Punishment, which is what you already said. If you want something new that is very instant/sorcery oriented, the new stella lee precon is pretty good too.
Hey Tauna been watching since msf days. You talked about in the past trying to upgrade stell Lee with Bria riptide are you going to do a video on how to do this?
I wish i could get Endless Punishment at non-markup price. Bunch of nonsense. That and Jumo Scare are my favorites. Definitely picking up Jump Scare though. Never had a simic deck. And it seems fun
@@SilverWolf89936 I mean they were asking out for the simplest one, not about the most competitive/better one. I'd say, in terms of difficulty, from bottom to top, it's Winter>Valgavoth>Zimone>Aminatou. Do correct me if I'm wrong though
The one I can think of is Zimone + Sakura-Tribe Elder + Yedora, Grave Gardener. Have all three on the battlefield, then… Sacrifice Sakura-Tribe Elder. Yedora triggers, returning it to the battlefield face down as a Forest land. _Landfall_ - Zimone triggers and manifests dread. Then Elder’s ability resolves, tutoring for a basic. _Landfall_ - Zimone triggers and turns a face down permanent face up. You choose the forest that is Sakura-Tribe Elder. (Optionally, tap it for mana before turning it face up.) Repeat. You only manifest dread on the first land that enters, and the rest turn something face up. Even once you’re out of basics, the combo will still work. Whisperwood Elemental will also work for this combo, as long as another land has entered the battlefield prior to it this turn. If you crack a fetch in response to destroy removal, you can generate a ton of Green mana and stack Whisperwood’s “When this dies” trigger on your entire board. Just don’t mill yourself out.
My fiance is making me give him my endless punishment and, in turn, giving me his death toll. He's been playing magic since before I was like 4. I'm extremely new to magic. OOTJ was my first set. Is he ripping me off? 😂
for me they failed a bit with the set.. the power level of the sets are so insane different.. endless punishment is around 5,5-6 Power and the others are around 3,5-4.. i mean what is this? unbalanced as hell just to sell that one PreCon.. 😂
I like your channel but this overview… I know you took time to put the slides together but you RAN through the details of each category of cards. Either don’t show them or take a little more time talking over them while showing the slide. Trying to see what cards are in the category in 2 seconds is a little frustrating.
Given the length of the video, I understand why you didn’t go over every card, but maybe you can give us 2 or 3 seconds to react to the slides so we can reach the pause button. Otherwise, this video has every thing a buyer could ask for! Thanks so much for your entertaining and informative video.
Appreciate the reply. Like i said, I watch your channel. So much so that this was the first breakdown that downloaded for offline viewing while on a plane. So apologies for not watching the others first.
@@johnnymarbles6130 sure thing. Not trying to complain. Just trying to give constructive critique because I like the channel and wouldn’t want someone to dismiss the channel if this was their first time here due to my comment. Tell me at the 5 minute mark you can time the pause on the first time (or second) for that matter.
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best reprints: endless punishment
most interesting: miracle worker
a little bit of both: jump scare!
master of none: death toll
Yes.
Yet I hadn't a Rakdos Commander Deck so I am extremly happy with the Endless Punishment Decklist. Compared to other PreCons around the 40 Bucks mark (for which you could preordered it), it is extremly playable right out of the box.
Miracle Worker too though imo. I think if you play in Pods which say "No Infinity Combos or only one", you can actually bring it along like it is.
@@DaroriDerEinzigesomeone mentioned putting baba lasaga as the commander for death toll and it makes it instantly better. Not much better but a more fun experience
I mean, there’s a very obvious upgrade to the Endless Punishment deck; Sheoldred. There are other, more rampy cards, but Sheoldred would be crazy good
Agreed brotha! Kokusho and honestly junji as well. Kokusho dying burning people + getting you life back and drawing you a card if he dies on your opponents turn. Then if you play some kind of reanimate do it again.
Rolling vortex only pinking people for 1 on their turn. Then being able to pay and stop the life gain player from healing for the turn
My suggestion is, if you are a new player stay away from the Endless Punishment deck. This archtype is similar to group hug where you need to properly assess threats and prepare to react to opponents gameplans far in advance. If you dont, you will be targeted immediately which may make the game unfun for someone new
Thank you for your work.
I ordered the 4 decks anyways so I’ll get to test all of them.
@17:00 miracle works on anyones turn though so aslong as you can instant a card draw you can also cast cards for its miracle cost
@@KeianLocke Even if it is an enchantment ? It means for example you draw an enchantment because of your smoothering tite during opponent’s turn, you can cast it directly for the miracle cost with Aminatou ability ?
@@thibmout5744 yes, miracle is basically a trigger for the first card you draw on a turn.
@@thibmout5744yes you can! That’s Why drawing cards on opponents turn is key in this deck
@@thibmout5744 erebos is crazy good in that deck, is an enchantment himself and allows you to draw a card on demand to get more miracle triggers on opponents turns.
@@jecaballeror oh wow, definitely the funniest and most interesting precon! Thanks!!
Which precon, also concidering older ones is the "strongest" out of the box to battle only other pre cons?
@@tunez9391
I'm not super experienced, but I've heard that all of the Lost Caverns of Ixalan decks were pretty solid (my favorite being an upgraded Velociramptor deck), and I've also heard good things about Exit from Exile. I do own most of them, but I am not experienced enough to compare them well to other decks.
I originally wanted Endless Punishment, but then realized it's basically just the Rakdos version of my Liesa Shroud of Dusk build so I guess I'll get my first simic deck.
There is a lot of cool stuff you can do with the rakdos deck bro! Tauna was talking mostly about group slug but you can also do a bit of Rakdos spell slinger. The only condition is that your opponent Takes damsge on their turn. He also naturally replaces any instant that you shoot them with and grows larger while doing it because he gets the +1/+1 AND draws a card.
The semic one has so much room for player and deck builder expression too though.
I only just found your channel a day or so ago and loving the videos! Subscribing!
Rakdos: edgelords/toxic
Espar: strongest, after skilled upgrades
Simic: fast, not as consistent
Golgori: highly interactive, unique alternate commander
@@chilledouttt6845 Radkos is my favorite lol. I guess that says something about me
@Augrills i ended up getting the Golgori, its pretty strong, you can become the archenemy by turn 3/4 by cheating out a BIG beater from the graveyard.
Ngl I think the Zimone one is more upgradable than you think! You can upgrade it by playing things like seasons Past and getting a ton of things back to your hand, genesis, you can add wincons that you then cheat out for cheap like manifest dreading a craterhoof, kodama of the east tree, lumera. We can also take our creatures we want with good effects and out them back to our hand by bouncing them while they are lands with meloku the clouded mirror. Landfall triggers Lotous Cobra, tireless provisioner. Etc etc. I agreed with a lot but I definitely see a ton of upgradeability
@@FrostyTheSwoleman manifesting craterhoof won't give the etb since craterhoof will have already been on the battlefield but pathbreaker ibex would be good to manifest and flip
@@mckenziestone3302 true but this is semic. Just flicker it and it will come back in faced up. Dsplacer kitten puts it online. Bounce it back to your hand meloku to put it to hand then play it. Cloudstone curio
I think this is the first time in god knows how long simic landfall has become interesting to me again. I mean, how many of the last 10 sets have been oh look, another simic landfall card that just does simic landfall. Granted its still landfall and I do like my landfall but it will be fun adding morph and megamorphs in, a couple more infinite combos besides the one included. I am definitly getting it.
I used to play mtg back in 2003 to 2008. Back then it was themes like direct damage, counter spell, sliver, goblin, elves. And planewalker just started around the time I stopped playing.
I’ve been doing some research recently and want to get back into mtg. Found a community that plays commander. I’m thinking to start by buying the Endless Punishment precon. Other than this precon, is there any other precon that you guys would recommend?
My old deck used to be a white blue deck. Emphasising on card draw, counter spell. And to get Akroma on the pitch asap lol
I'm not very good at the game but out of the four decks, the only one that draws cards and does stuff on other people's turn(in my opinion) is Endless Punishment, which is what you already said. If you want something new that is very instant/sorcery oriented, the new stella lee precon is pretty good too.
Hey Tauna been watching since msf days. You talked about in the past trying to upgrade stell Lee with Bria riptide are you going to do a video on how to do this?
I would also like to see this, I just added a bunch of otters from bloomburrow to Stella and it played really fun!
I've preordered 3 out of the 4, good to see what I can expect from them
which one did you not preorder?
@@ph8808 the miracle deck, might still get it though 🤣
I’m getting “death toll” for the secondary commander in making a scarecrow deck that won’t get me instantly targeted!
Tauna are you going to MagicCon Las Vegas in October??? I would love to play a game with you.
what are the infinites build into the precons?
I wish i could get Endless Punishment at non-markup price. Bunch of nonsense. That and Jumo Scare are my favorites. Definitely picking up Jump Scare though. Never had a simic deck. And it seems fun
which one(s) would you say is the best for newer players?
Probably the Death Toll one, it's the simplest but also rather fun!
@@TaunaMTGWhy did you just recommended the worst deck out of box 😂😂😂
@@SilverWolf89936 I mean they were asking out for the simplest one, not about the most competitive/better one. I'd say, in terms of difficulty, from bottom to top, it's Winter>Valgavoth>Zimone>Aminatou. Do correct me if I'm wrong though
I'm a new player and I'm going to buy miracle worker and jumpscare for my girlfriend!
I might upgrade Valgavoth but I think I’m leaning towards Aminatou. Just finished upgrading my Coram deck so I have no interest in Winter.
I personally excited for jump scare
What are the infinites in Jump Scare? I really can't see which cards are interacting in such a way...
Yedora, Sakura-tribe elder and Zimone, you basically get all your basics out of your deck
The one I can think of is Zimone + Sakura-Tribe Elder + Yedora, Grave Gardener. Have all three on the battlefield, then…
Sacrifice Sakura-Tribe Elder. Yedora triggers, returning it to the battlefield face down as a Forest land. _Landfall_ - Zimone triggers and manifests dread. Then Elder’s ability resolves, tutoring for a basic. _Landfall_ - Zimone triggers and turns a face down permanent face up. You choose the forest that is Sakura-Tribe Elder. (Optionally, tap it for mana before turning it face up.) Repeat. You only manifest dread on the first land that enters, and the rest turn something face up. Even once you’re out of basics, the combo will still work.
Whisperwood Elemental will also work for this combo, as long as another land has entered the battlefield prior to it this turn. If you crack a fetch in response to destroy removal, you can generate a ton of Green mana and stack Whisperwood’s “When this dies” trigger on your entire board. Just don’t mill yourself out.
Can we start getting a "stuff" count in the videos?
Nice Overview 👍🤘😎
The one that is not overpriced and scalped to heaven at the moment, so all except Endless punishment...
Valgavoth is a brutal commander. By end of turn one its easily a 7/7 flyer. Plus it replaces itself eith draw if targeted
My fiance is making me give him my endless punishment and, in turn, giving me his death toll. He's been playing magic since before I was like 4. I'm extremely new to magic. OOTJ was my first set. Is he ripping me off? 😂
Value wish, yeah. But if you tried the deck and like it better, it don’t really matter lol
Anyone looking for Endless Punishment in the UK, other than your LGS’s that may have a few boxes, theyre gone almost everywhere ive seen except GAME.
Funny thing about the new format is that we see when you copy and paste slides 😂
Another simic lands matter precon? :) I think we need a break for a while now
Any deck after upgrade can be good at duel commander?
No. For duel look for Ghyrson Starn and Aragorn, they are among the best commanders for duel.
@@SilverWolf89936 Thanks!
for me they failed a bit with the set.. the power level of the sets are so insane different..
endless punishment is around 5,5-6 Power and the others are around 3,5-4.. i mean what is this? unbalanced as hell just to sell that one PreCon.. 😂
Endless punishment has The best reprint value
I’m glad I preordered it
Miracle worker has so much potential because imagine omniscience for 6 mana (gross)
It’s still a lot of mana for colors that doesn’t ramp
@@SilverWolf89936 true
I like your channel but this overview… I know you took time to put the slides together but you RAN through the details of each category of cards. Either don’t show them or take a little more time talking over them while showing the slide. Trying to see what cards are in the category in 2 seconds is a little frustrating.
Hey man, I showed them all in the individual videos. This was meant to just be a quick summary of them sorry
Couldn't disagree more! Guy has zero idea of a pause button.
Given the length of the video, I understand why you didn’t go over every card, but maybe you can give us 2 or 3 seconds to react to the slides so we can reach the pause button. Otherwise, this video has every thing a buyer could ask for! Thanks so much for your entertaining and informative video.
Appreciate the reply. Like i said, I watch your channel. So much so that this was the first breakdown that downloaded for offline viewing while on a plane. So apologies for not watching the others first.
@@johnnymarbles6130 sure thing. Not trying to complain. Just trying to give constructive critique because I like the channel and wouldn’t want someone to dismiss the channel if this was their first time here due to my comment. Tell me at the 5 minute mark you can time the pause on the first time (or second) for that matter.