that DC Universe Online game has a lot of Teen Titans missions and stuff to play through, it’s just a shame that it’s kinda hard to get to + it’s not a good game and very outdated *imo*
I think the best origin story for the Titans forming as a group is the origin from the 2003 animated series. I like Starfire crashing on Earth after escaping the Gordanians ultimately being the catalyst for the team coming to be
Curious-- would a live action adaptation of that just be more Starwars/Guardians of the Galaxy? Or Power Rangers? Would that necessarily be a bad thing? I actually really love the first 2 Xmen movies and wouldn't mind something that was toned like that. Making Starfire's landing a huge deal for, say, Slade
I think the brilliance of that show was tapping into the popularity of Japanese Anime. Which makes me think that a new Teen Titans live action series or movie needs to also consider Japanese film genres in mind. So e.g. Raven = J horror. Cyborg = Japanese sci-fi or Cyberpunk. Robin = Martial arts/mystery films. Wonder Girl = Japanese mythical philisophocal fantasy (Miyazaki or Satoshi Kon), Beast Boy = Monster films/battle shonen. Etc.
One other thing that makes Teen Titans Go an odd choice for me is that the first show already had really silly, kid friendly humor and did a good job alternating between that and taking itself more seriously. If the first show were more dark and brooding, I could understand the tone shift because they’d be branching out to a new audience, but when the first show already had a balance between the two, the new show seems like taking the original appeal and cutting it in half.
A hot take I have. Raven would have been a better choice to be a founding member of the Justice League than Cyborg. 3 reasons. 1. Cyborg did make Batman more useless for things that was Batman's stuff in earlier JL stories like hacking or creating tech for the league. Raven on the team would have been quite unique as the JL having had someone with magic would have made her feel more needed. Like Cyborg can boomtube the team places, she could teleport the team too. 2. Similar to what someone said in the video, Trigon at his level should be facing team's like the Justice League. Also, a surprising trivia fact, the creators admitted to making Trigon a bit too OP that they regretted it and almost ran out of ideas for the team to defeat him. Since then, there is a hidden rule for DC writers of limiting use of him. 3. Why 1 female member on the team? Lol Wonder Woman can use another sister 😂. (It's mostly a joke).
That's an excellent point with Cyborg nullifying some of Morrison-era Batman-on-JLA qualities. I agree that Trigon is OP, but I don't mind that. Deathstroke is also a JLA-level threat but he's constantly fighting the Titans. I feel like the villaisn for the Titans are a lot more personal and at least with Blackfire and Trigon you have the abusive family aspect that these teens are trying to cope with which makes them relatable. Yes, I have demon-entities for family members lol.
@@jessicalang1024also not gonna lie. When people say that the titans shouldn’t be able to take Trigon or anything like that I feel what you’re saying because they’re kids but at the same time The Titans are still broken as hell, maybe not as much as the JL but are very close. You could argue that Raven solos at max power.
13:02 Honestly my opinion On Nightwing and his relationship I like to think of Barbara as a crush you have when growing up,kinda like dating in school like it's cute but probably not permanent,Starfire feels like a more mature relationship since Dick is older.Also again Having it all just be bat family members just makes it feel small and keep Nightwing chained to his younger identity as Robin.
Sadly, I think Master Dick is gonna end up alone. His relationship with Starfire was much better fleshed out and as much as I love Dick & Babs their best romances are in fanfics 😂 Hell, I wrote most of those growing up! There's another topic: Unpopular Opinions about ships and couples
@@UniverseChronology that's what I was thinking too, starfire is like young first love kinda thing, Oracle is his true love, she knows his struggles, has fought the same battles and has the scars but when they're together none of that matters and they exist as actual people not just the heroes batman programmed them to be. With starfire just feels like they moon over each other like lovestruck teens. Just my opinion. Lol
Honestly I have the exact opposite opinion. I saw someone comment this on some forum a while back and I've just regurgitated the opinion ever since: It makes sense for a younger Dick to fall in love with a powerful, hot alien chick, who wouldn't? But after going through some maturing and some difficult life events (Barbara in a wheelchair, Dick becoming Batman, yada yada), Dick and Barbara grow closer and Dick realizes what a diamond he's had this whole time. At the end of the day though I do love both relationships and don't really mind who ends up with who. But if I had to say which relationship is the best in my opinion, Dick x Batgirl < Dick x Star < Dick x Oracle. Idk if that makes sense.
I just really want them to establish the Dick and Wally friendship. That has been swept under the rug for far too long. Most people under a certain don’t even know that Wally West is a Titan. Donna Troy needs to be involved I feel like she gets the stepchild treatment just like Wonder Woman. Ive seen people say you can’t have too many characters in a movie and I just think that’s a lazy cop out for these writers and directors . The Titans can be 6-7 members maybe even 8 while still maintaining a good quality movie just stop being fucking lazy.. I am adamant about this. DCU’s main Titans should start with: 1. Nightwing 2. Flash(Wally) 3. Donna Troy 4. Raven 5. Starfire 6. Beast Boy 7. Cyborg If they decide that Wally is too big for the Titans then replace him with Speedy before anybody else. Or just leave it to 6 members then build upon it from there with Aqualad, Bumblebee, Supergirl, Superboy, Hawk, Dove, Tim, etc…all dependent on how they decide to use the eras.
imo speedy should always be a founding member, I'd have Speedy replace Raven so she joins later and therefore it would be fun to have her more of a mystery
@ Yeah I wouldn’t mind it. If I had to choose sub out Beast Boy for Roy. Or just take Raven and Beast Boy out altogether in the beginning letting Roy start with the others. I just don’t want Gunn to make Raven a Damien Wayne era character because she isn’t. In a perfect world I’d take all 8 of them
100% agree with your response to the "Trigon doesn't fit." Every superhero/SH team needs someone who is WAY out of their league. Seeing them overcome against threats that they really SHOULD lose to on paper is a big part of superhero appeal. Hell, that's part of the hero's journey in general.
I still believe Nightwing's Heart belongs to Batgirl. It's not because "what is created for Batfamily, stays in Batfamily" but rathermore because I have come to enjoy that relationship more. Yea, there's only 1 tamaranean, but I see it more like "the one that got away" or "the one you fumbled". Not everyone scores a relationship on their first try, and not every relationship in your teen years will remain. Barbara to me, just seems like a girl who was friends with Dick Grayson, and when he left, she missed her friend. When he came back, she realises how much she loves him, and thinks she's in love, so it develops further. It's strange, cause at this point in time, it feels more like Starfire has been relegated to "Robin's Girlfriend", and Barbara haters will wish to say the same thing, but in a fury, they reveal how good of a character she is even when she's alone. At this point in time, Starfire is better off without Nightwing... Besides, she IS the one who broke up the relationship.
My favorite iteration of the Teen Titans is the 1980s teams. It's what I grew up with. My top 10 Teen Titans members 1. Robin/Nightwing/Dick Grayson 2. Kid-Flash/The Flash/Wally West 3. Beast Boy/Changling/Garfield Logan 4. Cyborg/Vic Stone 5. Raven/Rachel Roth 6. Starfire/Princess Koriand'r 7. Wonder Girl/Donna Troy 8. Robin/Tim Drake 9. Superboy/Conner Kent/Kon-El 10. Impulse/Kid-Flash/Bart Allen
8:18 I've never really thought of that before, but I really like that idea! It's really cool. It would give the original team a more mainstream adaptation instead of just repeating the 2003 version (nothing wrong with the 03 team btw, just think it'd be better to change it up).
Okay here's my opinion: Nightwing had his Bludhaven run which was his best series. Donna Troy had her Darkstar tenure which needs to be another separsfe series. Tamaran is so vast we can give Starfire her own solo book. All of these Titans have their own great solo status quos. Beast Boy going back to using the Changeling name (comics toyed with him becoming a Lovecraftian beast). Cyborg becoming his form in Technis Imperative
You know what would be nice? Using the FULL Perez/Wolfman team for once. It was Robin,Starfire,Cyborg,Raven,Changeling(beast boy sucks),KID FLASH,WONDERGIRL ! SPEEDY( or Arsenal),TEMPEST,TERRA when new characters are needed. Yeah Jericho and randoms like Pantha can guest star from time to time.
Meh that team or those members have been used plient. And really changeling is a better name then beastboy I think not. I think your being a bit nostalgic tbh. My personal team I'd like to be use is nightwing,starfire,static shock,raven,supergirl,Jessica Cruz lantern and kid flash
The take at 3:35 , the teen titans were created for the justice leagues sidekick's. The original teen titans were Dick Grayson"s Robin, Kid Flash, Aqualad, Speedy and Wondergirl, In the DCU I wish they will use the founding titans to move onto young justice, and then have the iconic teen titans( Idk if they will do a prequel, as Dick is already nightwing) maybe tim drake in teen titans and starfire in young justice.
IMOP they need to bring back Titans West and do something interesting with them using underutilised Titans members like Golden Eagle, FlameBird and Pantha etc. Also I hate when someone brings up H.I.V.E people think of HIVE-5 from the cartoon and not the evil organisation bent on world conquest from the comics and HIVE-5 is a rebrand of The Fearsome Five from the comics mad up of adult low-level villains (Jinx, Psimon, Mammoth, Gizmo, Shimmer, Dr Light)
10:18 I kind of agree. It trims the roster which leads to more freedom and time for the characters, and kind of nerfs them enough to still be engaging. Having Donna and KF there all the time without nerfing THEM as well would’ve made threats feel less threatening. Plus I just think a team of 5 really works. 6 at most.
Once you reach 15k (congrats in advance!) You should do a review of you're favorite 15 hot takes you have received or at least 15 that you thought were insanely wild/fun.
You know, instead of saying someone is stupid for liking the 2003 cast over the original cast, why not explain why you like the original cast? Don’t even conpare it to the tv show, just talk about all the stuff you like about the original cast. More people will be attracted to someone gushing about their passions rather than someone who insults them.
Exactly. If your reasoning is "people like something that is far dumber than the thing I like" I just assume you have nothing of true value to say. That's not conversation in good faith.
Of course, she can be on the team, but what about other members? Of course, Robin/Nightwing is the leader. I can see Donna as a second-in-command. I admit that I am still attached to the TV show members (Cyborg, Starfire, Raven, and Beast Boy). Having another girl on the team is good, but what about personality? I don't know much about Donna, but what was good about Raven and Starfire was that they were opposites. What is Donna's personality that could work with these other girls? Is she Starfire's friendliness mixed with Dick's leadership?
@@WCLCooke Idk about Donna’s personality either but funny enough like Wonder Woman, i can see her as more a mother type figure to the team, much like what Wasp is to Avengers or Jean Grey is to X-men. it’s something Starfire, being from another planet/universe, can’t exactly have and Raven famously cannot do this either. She could be, to me at least, more compassionate and fair to everyone on the team while also being more boldness and more relatable; maybe someone that the jokester/younger members can always go to since Starfire is just an alien to this and Raven has too many inner demons. Idk though, this is just how i would have Donna as personality wise as it’s the same issue with Wally and Dick as Wally is fun and carefree like Beast Boy was reintroduced as in the cartoon
@@omarslayzsaying Donna is a mother figure is spot on since she and Terry Long became the defacto "Let's hide out at the Kents/Hawkman's Family Farm" thing in the Marv Wolfman era. Heck it's what supposedly led to Donna's marriage falling apart since she basically kept putting the Longs in danger even after quitting her powers. But I agree with OP tbh. Without Donna it isnt the Titans. At least for me. It's like TMNT without April O'Neil or Tiny Toons without Babs Bunny or Xmen without Phoenix (or Storm) or Power Rangers without Pink Ranger. Or Stranger Things without Max. Or the Harry Potter bunch without Hermione. You get the point. Every body got the point. I'm basically reiterating the point. But I can go on.
I would like it if speedy wasn’t on the original roster of the Titans and I would like it if he was on a team with Jason considering how much they have in common. It would also make more sense if they ever team up on the Outlaws
While I vibe with the interactions between Raven and Tim, they do have a non-inconsequental age gap. I could see it working in an alternate universe, but main continuity feels off.
Tbh I think raven being with a robin is just lazy writing nightwing already has starfire so what the second most known woman also goes for a robin. But I also don't see her with beastboy tbh. My top picks are supergirl,staticshock,zitanna, and / or kid flash. But I think supergirl works the best, having her be with someone who's so hopeful that she has no hope half of the time is good chemistry, plus both of their home world's destroyed. I know a lot of people would be made because it's a lesbian relationship, but there are teenagers, so I think this would also be good, showing people exploring there sexuality.
@@cngotham4111I’m sorry but no. DC and Marvel or heck any other company need to stop changing already established straight characters gay. It’s lazy and stupid and if you want a character to be lesbian then make your own one, don’t ruin already established characters just so they can fit into your own personal agenda.🙄🙄🙄
@T3aseW1thease raven has showed signs of being bisexual when slipping tongue to starfire during dicks and her wedding. And her male partners is like 4 so who says she isn't bi amd just never dated a girl. And yea I guess I am changing supergirls sexuality since I don't like her with brainiac lol. I agree that if they have dating tons of girls (spidernan and batman) then yea weird to change sexuality. Or if they made it 100 percent clear that there straight then yea weird. But ravens also been sus at certain points and supergirl barley has any main love interest then brainiac and even he isn't really always with her half of the time. So meh I do agree more lesbian,gay and ect ect should be made but also if they also have no main lover interest or showed signs of being bi then I don't see the bug deal making some characters bi also to me it's more then just making a lesbian couple it'd there personality that I think works well for each other.
My favorite Titans of all time are Tim Drake/Robin, Cassie Sandsmark/Wonder Girl, Connor Kent/Superboy & Bart Allen/Impulse. I guess their more comics Young Justice, but everyone's more familiar with the show. And this is not just cuz I ship Wonderbird (Tim x Cassie).
Teen titan as an institution under STAR Labs where stray teenagers get tested and trained on their abilities, how to use them and how to blend in society. This allows some members the privilege of living among regular people if they do not want to go full on crime fighting. This will make them effective helping hands in time of crisis handling evacuations, rescue and damage control with, without or before the Justice league intervene. And when star labs gets hacked by villains and counter measures are launched against ex members, they spring back into action to stop the attacks
As someone who doesn't read comics or watched the 2003 teen titan: I am a bit confused snd conflicted about the team.... I watched young justice and the robin was dick in the first season. then there's the movies that shows nightwing and starfire being adults whlie beast boy, raven and blue bettle are the teen titans with starfire being the leader/superviser and damian's robin later joining so, like who does it work? because I'm quite new with the whloe fandom and with all the movies and shows (for someone who can't read the comics...) I am lost to the original lore the comics had...
@@Tristan_Hitchens add Jason to the 1996 roster that team feels like it was designed for him...and it would give us two familar faces on the team...as Lieutennant Marvel/Captain Jr/CM3/King Marvel/King Shazam/whatever codename especially since he's currently going by Commander (under dark influence) and a fun little BvS chaos argument...Jason v Freddy.
tbh the teen titans beating trigon for me is kind of dumb like trigon should be on darkseids level(maybe beyond darkseid in certain locations) so unless its a case of trigon doing a thanos with the infinty gauntlet and subconsciously wanting to lose(since raven is there)
Regarding Donna Troy not being in in the '03 issue. I dont think theres a roster issue. Just give us a proper '03 Donna Troy movie. Maybe adding in Speedy and Aqualad in their older iterstions. I'd love it
There was an issue concerning Wonder rights. It had to do with JL and TT arguing about who got dibs...and DC got so sick of the arguing that they said no Amazons except Diana on league and she better save everyone else's bacon not getting turned into bacon.
@@Superlad9494 True! DC had those very bizarre bans at the time. Donna more so since she was for a long time so glued to TT that she wasn't allowed more freedom in the WW books. I feel like the adaptations should have brought Phil Jimenez on-board. If anyone could figure out how to incorporate and work around continuity errors and still get WW characters to fit into a story, it is he!
@Amazon.Prince the Jiminez run is so much fun! He even undid all that convoluted mess that Wolfman made for himself by saying "the multiverse was just as confused as Donna herself, but she was able to be a living continuity snarl.
@@Superlad9494 If I could heart comments I'd put one on yours 💕 Jimenez was very very restricted when he had his run but damn if he made every character unique and stand apart. I absolutely love that man's work.
@Amazon.Prince he also recently explained he wished the amazons still had their sci-fi tech combined in warrior magic land and their Giant Alien Kangaroos. *Giant. Alien. Kangaroos!*
@@martinbabich1920 a branch of the justice league that could handle black ops missions or space/multiversal threats, if you want a new name idk extreme justice maybe
for the NTT lineup,the titans just really need a writer that cares and wants to put a good story/arc for the team instead of just writing them because the fans want them or to make money since 80s they havent had much direction with repeated arcs and only small growth that gets forgotten every 5 years, i dont enjoy the notion of titans being passed down they can have off shoot teams like the xmen(new mutants,xfactor,excalibur,ect) or just members leave and come back like karen beecher and garth but the problem is that DC ....has a hard time selling them ive read some alternative lineups for the titans and 20% is simply decent the rest is kinda garbage some new characters could work but they either die (joey wilson/tara,pantha ect) are too complicated or just plain suck and geoff johns titans wasnt really much of a new team as much as young justice 2.0 gritty edge-lord edition with minor ex titans cameos, they lack great original characters beyond Tara and joey/rose, ive also said it multiple times that the titans dont have much of an easy hook as the xmen in NTT its very prevalent that lost late teens/young adults coming together to fight their problems/demons building a familial bond is a big part of why it worked but after a while the arcs became...strange? and editorial just didnt know what to do with them especially with the struggle of nightwing as batfamily member vs titans, personally i really think they should let the other characters breakout and explore more things if theyre desperate to keep dick in batfam, kory/raven/donna and victor should have more space to have more impactful adventures with the rest of the DCU and maybe more other heroes there age like kyle rayner/connor hawke(there interactions was fun), its why i loved the concept of justice league odyssey
I think if the DCU starts making the teen titans with the original members but they leave and the only three that stay will be dick,wally and Donna with star,bb,raven,and victor come in and join. After they turn 19 I think victor and Wally change to JL with wally taking on the name of the flash and the others change to the titans then Jason takes over the new teen titans until tim takes over and changes the team name to young Justice. Most likely Damien starts a new junior League with Jon
I love the 03 teen titans but it's overrated I would like a new teen titans show that is like 03 but switch up or add some of these characters. NO NOT TITANS. Personal it's not just for the titans but any character in DC or Marvel it annoys me when characters are labeled "the most powerful character" considering there are tons of characters labled "most powerful" or this character can level cities, planets or even galaxies. And sometimes they get washed by characters less powerful than them. Honestly it lessens how characters are or can be. Raven is considered a galaxy level threat but does that mean she can beat Superman? Beast boy can turn into an amiba and go inside someone's body and if he wanted to he could anyone without anyone noticing. Don't get me started with kid flash. I would like a structure on how powerful they are, like are they city, planetary or galaxy threat
I want to see the whole Teen Titans Grayson roster from day 1 adapted. Artstyle to be used: Fleischer if they can make it work. Storyline to start with Brave and the Bold No. 54+ Teen Titans year one. It will show just how important the Fab 5 are to the team and then expand.
I got two major options. 1 they shouldn’t call themselves the teen titans ever I think that should be called titans and the media brand them as teen titans so they naturally outgrow the name not cuz they change it cuz the people they’re saving see them grow and gain respect for them as a team. 2 the young justice should be a thing at the same time as the titans starting like 3 years after the titans started and Tim drake can lead that team after Jason or something
Supergirl was actually much older than the members of the Teen Titans when that team was formed. She had already graduated high school and was attending college while most of the members of the Teen Titans were around early high school age. There have been versions of Supergirl that has joined the Teen Titans like the Matrix version of Supergirl in the Mid-90s (This was during the era where Arsenal led the team) and the Post-Infinite Crisis version of Supergirl in the late 2000s (The Tim Drake led team), both of which were teenagers around the time.
Not a Titans Hot take, however it was repeatedly said in the video, I do not like young Justice as a team name, they aren’t called the Young Justice that’s just what they are. Now with that we do need a name for the team(sense the team is boring)
@@abiodunsulaiman2297 in the comic yes, in the show...no. They're actually way too good at it and those that leave get annoyed by it and make their own public groups like the Outsiders.
I think Dick shoukd have the titans, Jason shouldn’t have his own version until later into becoming RedHood (the groups he has now, what are they called outlaws?idk forgot), Tim should be in young justice, and Damian should make his own team (that should be like a fusion of the Justice League and The Demons hand?n(can’t believe I forgot the name of Raj Al Ghauls assassin organisation)
What if they all have a Titans tenure before making their own group. The Outlaws, Young Justice and maybe Justice Hitmen (sounds appropriate for Damien) all spin out of Nightwing and Donna's group and none of them ever join the league despite being invited because Nightwing points out that they like the League is based on The JSA are based on Infinity Inc, the Teen Titans version of the JSA which is fully independent of them despite being their kids...since Skyman, the original Kid hero with an adult sidekick in S.T.R.I.P.E. as he used to be the Star Spangled Kid was the first one to prove that kids could be heroes with some backup when needed, but could also do it independently...and it annoys the league...well except for Wonder Woman who encourages it...saying that her daughter, Lyta once did the same and although it was difficult to adjust to at first, she got used to it.
@ I’m not sure about all of them but I can see the robins being made to do that (Jason needs to learn to stop hyperactive/aggressive when young and when older to stop beijg agrssuve/murderous etc, Tim well tim needs friends, and Damian needs to learn how to be a leader, a team player (all need to learn social skills) who better 2 learn that from that dick and his group
Beast Boy should not become Beast MAN, just Beast. Beast man sounds lame, I'd rather people confuse the colorful fur balls with named Beast in marvel and dc.
I have a two: 1: Please stop using the Wolfman and Perez team in adaptations, it is not the only lineup to exist and there are TONS of other characters that have been Titans members that could have so much potential on Titans teams as some of the main members. Tempest, Arsenal, Green Lantern (Kyle Rayner), Supergirl, Impulse, Argent, Jesse Quick, Damage, Red Robin, Wonder Girl (Cassie), Static, Speedy (Mia), Amethyst, Offspring, and Aquagirl (Lorena). Also, it's a complete crime that only one adaptation of the Titans feature Donna Troy in any meaningful way. 2: A Robin is not the only person that can lead the Teen Titans, the Titans have been led by various other characters including Donna, Arsenal, Cyborg, and Wonder Girl (Cassie), let them show their leadership skills.
By personal team, I'd like to see is nighwing,starfire,raven,staticshock,supergirl,beastboy Jessica Cruz. I ship starfire and nightwing, then raven and starfire and then Jessica and staticshock. Nightwing would lead the time because, to me, it makes sense having the smart Strategist leading.
I dont understand the like for raven and beastboy. Tbh i always thought raven and supergirl would be a cute couple, one overly positive, seemingly negative. Supergirls' weakness is magic. Both homewords are kinda destroyed.
@@cngotham4111it's a meme based on wally west in New teen titans openly stating he was a Midwestern Conservative while the other members were liberals
Cyborg and Starfire would be a good couple, but the Dick Kory folks would rage. Cyborg and Kory were the only titans left of the old team back when the adult Titans left the team one by one, and Kory comments on how much she relies on Vic and takes comfort from him being there with her. That and justice league Odyssey. Both haven’t really had romance in years, and it feels off. I can see them working.
The live action show needs to be suspended ASAP so they can start adapting a high-budget live action DCEU version of the characters, preferably solo films for each. Also DC hasn't made good use of the titans since Geoff left the title
Personally, I Think That Dick Grayson Needs To Be The Founder & Leader Of The Teen Titans/Titans. Superman's Child & Damian Wayne Should Both Be Babies & Grow Up Together. Like Talia Lets Bruce Know About Him & Leaves Him With Bruce When Damian Is Between The Ages Of 3-5, That Way We Can Have That Super Sons Type Dynamic Where They Grow Up Together & Are The Founders & Leaders Of Young Justice. The Difference Is Teen Titans Was Created By Nightwing Basically Creating His Own Family Like Batman Did. Young Justice Is Made Up Of People That Are Considered The Rightful Heir To The Mantles Of These Heroes. 1. Jonathan Kent - Rightful Next Superman 2. Damian Wayne - Rightful Next Batman That Learned From The Original Bat Family Themselves.
This is probably not an unpopular opinion but we need a Teen Titans game, like Gotham Knights but with Teen Titans characters or something Idk
Fantastic opinion. I’ve always said the same. Also a live action movie which we’re now getting thankfully
Gotham knights was shit tho, now a a marvel ultimate alliance style teen titans game on the other hand
Agreed a thousand percent
that DC Universe Online game has a lot of Teen Titans missions and stuff to play through, it’s just a shame that it’s kinda hard to get to + it’s not a good game and very outdated *imo*
@ I know but that really isn’t that good of a game and I created TT characters and all and played the dlc’s for it. Eh it’s not great DCUO just is meh
I think the best origin story for the Titans forming as a group is the origin from the 2003 animated series. I like Starfire crashing on Earth after escaping the Gordanians ultimately being the catalyst for the team coming to be
Curious-- would a live action adaptation of that just be more Starwars/Guardians of the Galaxy? Or Power Rangers? Would that necessarily be a bad thing?
I actually really love the first 2 Xmen movies and wouldn't mind something that was toned like that.
Making Starfire's landing a huge deal for, say, Slade
I think the brilliance of that show was tapping into the popularity of Japanese Anime. Which makes me think that a new Teen Titans live action series or movie needs to also consider Japanese film genres in mind.
So e.g.
Raven = J horror.
Cyborg = Japanese sci-fi or Cyberpunk.
Robin = Martial arts/mystery films.
Wonder Girl = Japanese mythical philisophocal fantasy (Miyazaki or Satoshi Kon),
Beast Boy = Monster films/battle shonen.
Etc.
One other thing that makes Teen Titans Go an odd choice for me is that the first show already had really silly, kid friendly humor and did a good job alternating between that and taking itself more seriously.
If the first show were more dark and brooding, I could understand the tone shift because they’d be branching out to a new audience, but when the first show already had a balance between the two, the new show seems like taking the original appeal and cutting it in half.
A hot take I have. Raven would have been a better choice to be a founding member of the Justice League than Cyborg. 3 reasons.
1. Cyborg did make Batman more useless for things that was Batman's stuff in earlier JL stories like hacking or creating tech for the league. Raven on the team would have been quite unique as the JL having had someone with magic would have made her feel more needed. Like Cyborg can boomtube the team places, she could teleport the team too.
2. Similar to what someone said in the video, Trigon at his level should be facing team's like the Justice League. Also, a surprising trivia fact, the creators admitted to making Trigon a bit too OP that they regretted it and almost ran out of ideas for the team to defeat him. Since then, there is a hidden rule for DC writers of limiting use of him.
3. Why 1 female member on the team? Lol Wonder Woman can use another sister 😂. (It's mostly a joke).
Or maybe non of the titans should have left and go justice league.
That's an excellent point with Cyborg nullifying some of Morrison-era Batman-on-JLA qualities.
I agree that Trigon is OP, but I don't mind that. Deathstroke is also a JLA-level threat but he's constantly fighting the Titans. I feel like the villaisn for the Titans are a lot more personal and at least with Blackfire and Trigon you have the abusive family aspect that these teens are trying to cope with which makes them relatable.
Yes, I have demon-entities for family members lol.
@@jessicalang1024 plus Raven would be fucking overpowered. She already is anyways
@@cngotham4111 ngl I agree they’re titans not JL
@@jessicalang1024also not gonna lie. When people say that the titans shouldn’t be able to take Trigon or anything like that I feel what you’re saying because they’re kids but at the same time The Titans are still broken as hell, maybe not as much as the JL but are very close. You could argue that Raven solos at max power.
13:02 Honestly my opinion On Nightwing and his relationship I like to think of Barbara as a crush you have when growing up,kinda like dating in school like it's cute but probably not permanent,Starfire feels like a more mature relationship since Dick is older.Also again Having it all just be bat family members just makes it feel small and keep Nightwing chained to his younger identity as Robin.
Exact opposite opinion for me. Nightwing and Oracle feels like a more mature relationship than Nightwing and Starfire to me.
Sadly, I think Master Dick is gonna end up alone. His relationship with Starfire was much better fleshed out and as much as I love Dick & Babs their best romances are in fanfics 😂 Hell, I wrote most of those growing up! There's another topic: Unpopular Opinions about ships and couples
@@UniverseChronology that's what I was thinking too, starfire is like young first love kinda thing, Oracle is his true love, she knows his struggles, has fought the same battles and has the scars but when they're together none of that matters and they exist as actual people not just the heroes batman programmed them to be. With starfire just feels like they moon over each other like lovestruck teens. Just my opinion. Lol
Honestly I have the exact opposite opinion. I saw someone comment this on some forum a while back and I've just regurgitated the opinion ever since: It makes sense for a younger Dick to fall in love with a powerful, hot alien chick, who wouldn't? But after going through some maturing and some difficult life events (Barbara in a wheelchair, Dick becoming Batman, yada yada), Dick and Barbara grow closer and Dick realizes what a diamond he's had this whole time.
At the end of the day though I do love both relationships and don't really mind who ends up with who. But if I had to say which relationship is the best in my opinion, Dick x Batgirl < Dick x Star < Dick x Oracle. Idk if that makes sense.
@johnbowen5220 Oracle ftw
I just really want them to establish the Dick and Wally friendship. That has been swept under the rug for far too long. Most people under a certain don’t even know that Wally West is a Titan. Donna Troy needs to be involved I feel like she gets the stepchild treatment just like Wonder Woman.
Ive seen people say you can’t have too many characters in a movie and I just think that’s a lazy cop out for these writers and directors . The Titans can be 6-7 members maybe even 8 while still maintaining a good quality movie just stop being fucking lazy.. I am adamant about this. DCU’s main Titans should start with:
1. Nightwing
2. Flash(Wally)
3. Donna Troy
4. Raven
5. Starfire
6. Beast Boy
7. Cyborg
If they decide that Wally is too big for the Titans then replace him with Speedy before anybody else. Or just leave it to 6 members then build upon it from there with Aqualad, Bumblebee, Supergirl, Superboy, Hawk, Dove, Tim, etc…all dependent on how they decide to use the eras.
imo speedy should always be a founding member, I'd have Speedy replace Raven so she joins later and therefore it would be fun to have her more of a mystery
@ Yeah I wouldn’t mind it. If I had to choose sub out Beast Boy for Roy. Or just take Raven and Beast Boy out altogether in the beginning letting Roy start with the others. I just don’t want Gunn to make Raven a Damien Wayne era character because she isn’t. In a perfect world I’d take all 8 of them
100% agree with your response to the "Trigon doesn't fit." Every superhero/SH team needs someone who is WAY out of their league. Seeing them overcome against threats that they really SHOULD lose to on paper is a big part of superhero appeal. Hell, that's part of the hero's journey in general.
yeah but trigon should be more of a solely justice league threat
I still believe Nightwing's Heart belongs to Batgirl. It's not because "what is created for Batfamily, stays in Batfamily" but rathermore because I have come to enjoy that relationship more.
Yea, there's only 1 tamaranean, but I see it more like "the one that got away" or "the one you fumbled". Not everyone scores a relationship on their first try, and not every relationship in your teen years will remain.
Barbara to me, just seems like a girl who was friends with Dick Grayson, and when he left, she missed her friend. When he came back, she realises how much she loves him, and thinks she's in love, so it develops further.
It's strange, cause at this point in time, it feels more like Starfire has been relegated to "Robin's Girlfriend", and Barbara haters will wish to say the same thing, but in a fury, they reveal how good of a character she is even when she's alone. At this point in time, Starfire is better off without Nightwing... Besides, she IS the one who broke up the relationship.
My favorite iteration of the Teen Titans is the 1980s teams. It's what I grew up with.
My top 10 Teen Titans members
1. Robin/Nightwing/Dick Grayson
2. Kid-Flash/The Flash/Wally West
3. Beast Boy/Changling/Garfield Logan
4. Cyborg/Vic Stone
5. Raven/Rachel Roth
6. Starfire/Princess Koriand'r
7. Wonder Girl/Donna Troy
8. Robin/Tim Drake
9. Superboy/Conner Kent/Kon-El
10. Impulse/Kid-Flash/Bart Allen
8:18 I've never really thought of that before, but I really like that idea! It's really cool. It would give the original team a more mainstream adaptation instead of just repeating the 2003 version (nothing wrong with the 03 team btw, just think it'd be better to change it up).
Okay here's my opinion:
Nightwing had his Bludhaven run which was his best series.
Donna Troy had her Darkstar tenure which needs to be another separsfe series.
Tamaran is so vast we can give Starfire her own solo book.
All of these Titans have their own great solo status quos.
Beast Boy going back to using the Changeling name (comics toyed with him becoming a Lovecraftian beast).
Cyborg becoming his form in Technis Imperative
You know what would be nice? Using the FULL Perez/Wolfman team for once. It was Robin,Starfire,Cyborg,Raven,Changeling(beast boy sucks),KID FLASH,WONDERGIRL ! SPEEDY( or Arsenal),TEMPEST,TERRA when new characters are needed. Yeah Jericho and randoms like Pantha can guest star from time to time.
Meh that team or those members have been used plient. And really changeling is a better name then beastboy I think not. I think your being a bit nostalgic tbh. My personal team I'd like to be use is nightwing,starfire,static shock,raven,supergirl,Jessica Cruz lantern and kid flash
Thanks for addressing my comment, great video as always
Thank you! And thanks for commenting!
My hot take is that tim should be the leader of young justice and the two teams should be like two different friend groups
Under 40 minutes, just realized I wasn’t subbed,cool to catch it this early
The take at 3:35 , the teen titans were created for the justice leagues sidekick's. The original teen titans were Dick Grayson"s Robin, Kid Flash, Aqualad, Speedy and Wondergirl, In the DCU I wish they will use the founding titans to move onto young justice, and then have the iconic teen titans( Idk if they will do a prequel, as Dick is already nightwing) maybe tim drake in teen titans and starfire in young justice.
IMOP they need to bring back Titans West and do something interesting with them using underutilised Titans members like Golden Eagle, FlameBird and Pantha etc.
Also I hate when someone brings up H.I.V.E people think of HIVE-5 from the cartoon and not the evil organisation bent on world conquest from the comics and
HIVE-5 is a rebrand of The Fearsome Five from the comics mad up of adult low-level villains (Jinx, Psimon, Mammoth, Gizmo, Shimmer, Dr Light)
Doc Light is very very scary in Identity Crisis, so I hear you.
10:18 I kind of agree. It trims the roster which leads to more freedom and time for the characters, and kind of nerfs them enough to still be engaging. Having Donna and KF there all the time without nerfing THEM as well would’ve made threats feel less threatening. Plus I just think a team of 5 really works. 6 at most.
Once you reach 15k (congrats in advance!) You should do a review of you're favorite 15 hot takes you have received or at least 15 that you thought were insanely wild/fun.
Hey thank you for your support! And ya that's not a bad idea, I might take a look at some of the old videos a see what good ones I can find!
Hot take:
Young Justice 98 team and dynamics over any teen titans line up any day
Just when I needed something to listen to at work, I got the notification. Timing couldn't be better lol
Woah same lol how'd he know
You know, instead of saying someone is stupid for liking the 2003 cast over the original cast, why not explain why you like the original cast? Don’t even conpare it to the tv show, just talk about all the stuff you like about the original cast. More people will be attracted to someone gushing about their passions rather than someone who insults them.
Well put
I guess that's what I do for WG 😂
Exactly. If your reasoning is "people like something that is far dumber than the thing I like" I just assume you have nothing of true value to say. That's not conversation in good faith.
Titans without any Wonder Girl is no Titans I gaf about.
Ok I love Donna Troy but come on now.
Of course, she can be on the team, but what about other members? Of course, Robin/Nightwing is the leader. I can see Donna as a second-in-command. I admit that I am still attached to the TV show members (Cyborg, Starfire, Raven, and Beast Boy). Having another girl on the team is good, but what about personality? I don't know much about Donna, but what was good about Raven and Starfire was that they were opposites. What is Donna's personality that could work with these other girls? Is she Starfire's friendliness mixed with Dick's leadership?
@@WCLCooke Idk about Donna’s personality either but funny enough like Wonder Woman, i can see her as more a mother type figure to the team, much like what Wasp is to Avengers or Jean Grey is to X-men. it’s something Starfire, being from another planet/universe, can’t exactly have and Raven famously cannot do this either. She could be, to me at least, more compassionate and fair to everyone on the team while also being more boldness and more relatable; maybe someone that the jokester/younger members can always go to since Starfire is just an alien to this and Raven has too many inner demons. Idk though, this is just how i would have Donna as personality wise as it’s the same issue with Wally and Dick as Wally is fun and carefree like Beast Boy was reintroduced as in the cartoon
😂 AS AN AMAZON I SAY YES
@@omarslayzsaying Donna is a mother figure is spot on since she and Terry Long became the defacto "Let's hide out at the Kents/Hawkman's Family Farm" thing in the Marv Wolfman era. Heck it's what supposedly led to Donna's marriage falling apart since she basically kept putting the Longs in danger even after quitting her powers.
But I agree with OP tbh. Without Donna it isnt the Titans. At least for me. It's like TMNT without April O'Neil or Tiny Toons without Babs Bunny or Xmen without Phoenix (or Storm) or Power Rangers without Pink Ranger.
Or Stranger Things without Max. Or the Harry Potter bunch without Hermione.
You get the point. Every body got the point. I'm basically reiterating the point. But I can go on.
I think the team is still treated like sidekicks as grown adults 🫤 At some point they should be the mainstay and the JL ages into the JS role.
12:20 Big facts, the gatekeeping days are behind us.
Especially the DC fanbase/community. It can be really rough.
My take on the teen titans is that the best rooster is the current one in the comics with: Dick, Donna, Wally, Gar, Kory, Rachel and Victor
I would like it if speedy wasn’t on the original roster of the Titans and I would like it if he was on a team with Jason considering how much they have in common. It would also make more sense if they ever team up on the Outlaws
While I vibe with the interactions between Raven and Tim, they do have a non-inconsequental age gap. I could see it working in an alternate universe, but main continuity feels off.
You could just have it be like I the John's run where she was resurrected to be Tim's age
@@abiodunsulaiman2297 I mean that solves the physical age issue.
Tbh I think raven being with a robin is just lazy writing nightwing already has starfire so what the second most known woman also goes for a robin. But I also don't see her with beastboy tbh. My top picks are supergirl,staticshock,zitanna, and / or kid flash. But I think supergirl works the best, having her be with someone who's so hopeful that she has no hope half of the time is good chemistry, plus both of their home world's destroyed. I know a lot of people would be made because it's a lesbian relationship, but there are teenagers, so I think this would also be good, showing people exploring there sexuality.
@@cngotham4111I’m sorry but no. DC and Marvel or heck any other company need to stop changing already established straight characters gay. It’s lazy and stupid and if you want a character to be lesbian then make your own one, don’t ruin already established characters just so they can fit into your own personal agenda.🙄🙄🙄
@T3aseW1thease raven has showed signs of being bisexual when slipping tongue to starfire during dicks and her wedding. And her male partners is like 4 so who says she isn't bi amd just never dated a girl. And yea I guess I am changing supergirls sexuality since I don't like her with brainiac lol. I agree that if they have dating tons of girls (spidernan and batman) then yea weird to change sexuality. Or if they made it 100 percent clear that there straight then yea weird. But ravens also been sus at certain points and supergirl barley has any main love interest then brainiac and even he isn't really always with her half of the time. So meh I do agree more lesbian,gay and ect ect should be made but also if they also have no main lover interest or showed signs of being bi then I don't see the bug deal making some characters bi also to me it's more then just making a lesbian couple it'd there personality that I think works well for each other.
My favorite Titans of all time are Tim Drake/Robin, Cassie Sandsmark/Wonder Girl, Connor Kent/Superboy & Bart Allen/Impulse. I guess their more comics Young Justice, but everyone's more familiar with the show. And this is not just cuz I ship Wonderbird (Tim x Cassie).
Teen titan as an institution under STAR Labs where stray teenagers get tested and trained on their abilities, how to use them and how to blend in society. This allows some members the privilege of living among regular people if they do not want to go full on crime fighting.
This will make them effective helping hands in time of crisis handling evacuations, rescue and damage control with, without or before the Justice league intervene.
And when star labs gets hacked by villains and counter measures are launched against ex members, they spring back into action to stop the attacks
@@Callmejizi what snallville ass take is this
Great video
Thank you!
Teen Titans Go! is genuinely good and fun. I say this as someone who grew up reading the Pérez/Wolfman era comics. 😂
Tim had young justice. Just keep that. Run it more like the yj tv show and have it as an intermediate team.
As someone who doesn't read comics or watched the 2003 teen titan: I am a bit confused snd conflicted about the team....
I watched young justice and the robin was dick in the first season. then there's the movies that shows nightwing and starfire being adults whlie beast boy, raven and blue bettle are the teen titans with starfire being the leader/superviser and damian's robin later joining
so, like
who does it work?
because I'm quite new with the whloe fandom and with all the movies and shows (for someone who can't read the comics...) I am lost to the original lore the comics had...
Hot opinion 😅 i want 2 Raven because That assasin robin and raven in Warverse animated is soo good
As a Jason fan, a team of Titans led by him would VERY interesting😂😂
Outlaws
@ I should’ve been more clear, as teenagers
@@Tristan_Hitchens add Jason to the 1996 roster that team feels like it was designed for him...and it would give us two familar faces on the team...as Lieutennant Marvel/Captain Jr/CM3/King Marvel/King Shazam/whatever codename especially since he's currently going by Commander (under dark influence) and a fun little BvS chaos argument...Jason v Freddy.
4:52 the most popular members of young justice ended becoming titans, there's not a major meed of differentiating them
tbh the teen titans beating trigon for me is kind of dumb like trigon should be on darkseids level(maybe beyond darkseid in certain locations) so unless its a case of trigon doing a thanos with the infinty gauntlet and subconsciously wanting to lose(since raven is there)
Damn wish we had more hottakes on titans.
6:45 that should be the team in the DCU right there
Why not have multiple robins on the team? Dick, let Tim Drake in!
@@BradleyGearhart tim has his own friend group/titans, dick doesn't need to chaperone him
Regarding Donna Troy not being in in the '03 issue. I dont think theres a roster issue. Just give us a proper '03 Donna Troy movie. Maybe adding in Speedy and Aqualad in their older iterstions. I'd love it
There was an issue concerning Wonder rights. It had to do with JL and TT arguing about who got dibs...and DC got so sick of the arguing that they said no Amazons except Diana on league and she better save everyone else's bacon not getting turned into bacon.
@@Superlad9494 True! DC had those very bizarre bans at the time. Donna more so since she was for a long time so glued to TT that she wasn't allowed more freedom in the WW books. I feel like the adaptations should have brought Phil Jimenez on-board. If anyone could figure out how to incorporate and work around continuity errors and still get WW characters to fit into a story, it is he!
@Amazon.Prince the Jiminez run is so much fun! He even undid all that convoluted mess that Wolfman made for himself by saying "the multiverse was just as confused as Donna herself, but she was able to be a living continuity snarl.
@@Superlad9494 If I could heart comments I'd put one on yours 💕 Jimenez was very very restricted when he had his run but damn if he made every character unique and stand apart. I absolutely love that man's work.
@Amazon.Prince he also recently explained he wished the amazons still had their sci-fi tech combined in warrior magic land and their Giant Alien Kangaroos. *Giant. Alien. Kangaroos!*
What should become of Young justice as they grow older if they don't inherit the "Titans" moniker?
@@martinbabich1920 a branch of the justice league that could handle black ops missions or space/multiversal threats, if you want a new name idk extreme justice maybe
@@abiodunsulaiman2297 Isn't that what happens in the Young justice show?
they should just become the new justice league imo
for the NTT lineup,the titans just really need a writer that cares and wants to put a good story/arc for the team instead of just writing them because the fans want them or to make money since 80s they havent had much direction with repeated arcs and only small growth that gets forgotten every 5 years, i dont enjoy the notion of titans being passed down they can have off shoot teams like the xmen(new mutants,xfactor,excalibur,ect) or just members leave and come back like karen beecher and garth but the problem is that DC ....has a hard time selling them ive read some alternative lineups for the titans and 20% is simply decent the rest is kinda garbage some new characters could work but they either die (joey wilson/tara,pantha ect) are too complicated or just plain suck and geoff johns titans wasnt really much of a new team as much as young justice 2.0 gritty edge-lord edition with minor ex titans cameos, they lack great original characters beyond Tara and joey/rose, ive also said it multiple times that the titans dont have much of an easy hook as the xmen in NTT its very prevalent that lost late teens/young adults coming together to fight their problems/demons building a familial bond is a big part of why it worked but after a while the arcs became...strange? and editorial just didnt know what to do with them especially with the struggle of nightwing as batfamily member vs titans, personally i really think they should let the other characters breakout and explore more things if theyre desperate to keep dick in batfam, kory/raven/donna and victor should have more space to have more impactful adventures with the rest of the DCU and maybe more other heroes there age like kyle rayner/connor hawke(there interactions was fun), its why i loved the concept of justice league odyssey
I think if the DCU starts making the teen titans with the original members but they leave and the only three that stay will be dick,wally and Donna with star,bb,raven,and victor come in and join. After they turn 19 I think victor and Wally change to JL with wally taking on the name of the flash and the others change to the titans then Jason takes over the new teen titans until tim takes over and changes the team name to young Justice. Most likely Damien starts a new junior League with Jon
I love the 03 teen titans but it's overrated I would like a new teen titans show that is like 03 but switch up or add some of these characters. NO NOT TITANS.
Personal it's not just for the titans but any character in DC or Marvel it annoys me when characters are labeled "the most powerful character" considering there are tons of characters labled "most powerful" or this character can level cities, planets or even galaxies. And sometimes they get washed by characters less powerful than them. Honestly it lessens how characters are or can be.
Raven is considered a galaxy level threat but does that mean she can beat Superman?
Beast boy can turn into an amiba and go inside someone's body and if he wanted to he could anyone without anyone noticing.
Don't get me started with kid flash.
I would like a structure on how powerful they are, like are they city, planetary or galaxy threat
I want to see the whole Teen Titans Grayson roster from day 1 adapted.
Artstyle to be used: Fleischer if they can make it work.
Storyline to start with Brave and the Bold No. 54+ Teen Titans year one. It will show just how important the Fab 5 are to the team and then expand.
I got two major options. 1 they shouldn’t call themselves the teen titans ever I think that should be called titans and the media brand them as teen titans so they naturally outgrow the name not cuz they change it cuz the people they’re saving see them grow and gain respect for them as a team. 2 the young justice should be a thing at the same time as the titans starting like 3 years after the titans started and Tim drake can lead that team after Jason or something
What, tim is like a decade younger than dick
I’ve always wondered why supergirl wasn’t on the Teen Titans. Does anyone know why in universe or out of universe?
Supergirl was actually much older than the members of the Teen Titans when that team was formed. She had already graduated high school and was attending college while most of the members of the Teen Titans were around early high school age. There have been versions of Supergirl that has joined the Teen Titans like the Matrix version of Supergirl in the Mid-90s (This was during the era where Arsenal led the team) and the Post-Infinite Crisis version of Supergirl in the late 2000s (The Tim Drake led team), both of which were teenagers around the time.
@ Oh! That makes sense. Thanks!
I’m not a fan of ttg at all but the argument you used to defend the 03 show could be used to defend ttg word for word btw
Yaaaaah!
Great video
So can you give me a Titan recap for the Titan All In cuz i only know the show and the show is nothing like the comics AT ALL
brother i really like your takes finally a chanel that dosen't scream woke or any stupid stuff far right about comics.
Not a Titans Hot take, however it was repeatedly said in the video, I do not like young Justice as a team name, they aren’t called the Young Justice that’s just what they are. Now with that we do need a name for the team(sense the team is boring)
I mean the founding members of young justice didn't choose the name lol
The Team is the Team because they're a covert team. If they had a name they wouldn't be covert.
@Superlad9494 isn't their whole thing that they're comically terrible at being covert
@@abiodunsulaiman2297 in the comic yes, in the show...no. They're actually way too good at it and those that leave get annoyed by it and make their own public groups like the Outsiders.
Hard disagree raven x Tim
nah man your crazy read their Interactions, they're honestly perfect for eachother.
I think Dick shoukd have the titans, Jason shouldn’t have his own version until later into becoming RedHood (the groups he has now, what are they called outlaws?idk forgot), Tim should be in young justice, and Damian should make his own team (that should be like a fusion of the Justice League and The Demons hand?n(can’t believe I forgot the name of Raj Al Ghauls assassin organisation)
Its called the league of assassins
What if they all have a Titans tenure before making their own group. The Outlaws, Young Justice and maybe Justice Hitmen (sounds appropriate for Damien) all spin out of Nightwing and Donna's group and none of them ever join the league despite being invited because Nightwing points out that they like the League is based on The JSA are based on Infinity Inc, the Teen Titans version of the JSA which is fully independent of them despite being their kids...since Skyman, the original Kid hero with an adult sidekick in S.T.R.I.P.E. as he used to be the Star Spangled Kid was the first one to prove that kids could be heroes with some backup when needed, but could also do it independently...and it annoys the league...well except for Wonder Woman who encourages it...saying that her daughter, Lyta once did the same and although it was difficult to adjust to at first, she got used to it.
@ I’m not sure about all of them but I can see the robins being made to do that (Jason needs to learn to stop hyperactive/aggressive when young and when older to stop beijg agrssuve/murderous etc, Tim well tim needs friends, and Damian needs to learn how to be a leader, a team player (all need to learn social skills) who better 2 learn that from that dick and his group
Tim and raven absolutely not lol i barely dealt with her and daiman. Raven and beastboy will always make sense
Tim and Raven, absolutely.
I fixed your typo.
@tyrellmultimedia cute nice video
I don’t think it can work in live action
Why do you think that?
@ I could be wrong but it’s just a feeling
Beast Boy should not become Beast MAN, just Beast. Beast man sounds lame, I'd rather people confuse the colorful fur balls with named Beast in marvel and dc.
Just call him changeling lol
@abiodunsulaiman2297 while it works, that wasn't my idea and I HAVE to be stubborn and die on this hill
I wasn't advocating for him to be called Beast Man. I just used it as a term to identify that he has eventually grown up to be a man.
@tyrellmultimedia oh I know I was gremlin posting
@@tyrellmultimedia Changeling would work better.
I have a two:
1: Please stop using the Wolfman and Perez team in adaptations, it is not the only lineup to exist and there are TONS of other characters that have been Titans members that could have so much potential on Titans teams as some of the main members. Tempest, Arsenal, Green Lantern (Kyle Rayner), Supergirl, Impulse, Argent, Jesse Quick, Damage, Red Robin, Wonder Girl (Cassie), Static, Speedy (Mia), Amethyst, Offspring, and Aquagirl (Lorena). Also, it's a complete crime that only one adaptation of the Titans feature Donna Troy in any meaningful way.
2: A Robin is not the only person that can lead the Teen Titans, the Titans have been led by various other characters including Donna, Arsenal, Cyborg, and Wonder Girl (Cassie), let them show their leadership skills.
By personal team, I'd like to see is nighwing,starfire,raven,staticshock,supergirl,beastboy Jessica Cruz. I ship starfire and nightwing, then raven and starfire and then Jessica and staticshock. Nightwing would lead the time because, to me, it makes sense having the smart Strategist leading.
My dream team is have young justice become the Titans.
They did in the comics for like 8 years
I dont understand the like for raven and beastboy. Tbh i always thought raven and supergirl would be a cute couple, one overly positive, seemingly negative. Supergirls' weakness is magic. Both homewords are kinda destroyed.
As a Midwestern conservative I think there needs to be more representation not that I don’t like liberals or anything they’re cool
Solid JJ Wally West is that you?
What? I don't think the titians are liberal or conservative I mean if I'd have to guess they'd be liberal. But it's never outright said
@@cngotham4111it's a meme based on wally west in New teen titans openly stating he was a Midwestern Conservative while the other members were liberals
@abiodunsulaiman2297 ow lol that's kinda funny ngl. Is it in the vol 1 ombi or later on? As I do have the first vol ombibus just havnt read it uet
@abiodunsulaiman2297 yet
Cyborg and Starfire would be a good couple, but the Dick Kory folks would rage. Cyborg and Kory were the only titans left of the old team back when the adult Titans left the team one by one, and Kory comments on how much she relies on Vic and takes comfort from him being there with her. That and justice league Odyssey. Both haven’t really had romance in years, and it feels off. I can see them working.
Never would have thought of them together but I don't hate it
The live action show needs to be suspended ASAP so they can start adapting a high-budget live action DCEU version of the characters, preferably solo films for each. Also DC hasn't made good use of the titans since Geoff left the title
They still make the live action show?
@@Ultradragon16idk but Dc did make one in it flopped the second week of the release
First lol
Personally, I Think That Dick Grayson Needs To Be The Founder & Leader Of The Teen Titans/Titans. Superman's Child & Damian Wayne Should Both Be Babies & Grow Up Together. Like Talia Lets Bruce Know About Him & Leaves Him With Bruce When Damian Is Between The Ages Of 3-5, That Way We Can Have That Super Sons Type Dynamic Where They Grow Up Together & Are The Founders & Leaders Of Young Justice. The Difference Is Teen Titans Was Created By Nightwing Basically Creating His Own Family Like Batman Did. Young Justice Is Made Up Of People That Are Considered The Rightful Heir To The Mantles Of These Heroes.
1. Jonathan Kent - Rightful Next Superman
2. Damian Wayne - Rightful Next Batman That Learned From The Original Bat Family Themselves.
That's actually perfect.
Hot take Damien & Cassandra Cain should date
even bigger Hot Take: Beast Boy and Cassandra Cain should date. Damian with Cass is kinda boring to me tbh.
@@T3aseW1thease beast boy is like nightwing can date any girl he wants
That is indeed a hot take. They are siblings and she's older than Jason if I recall correctly.
@ I would make Barbra adopt her and make them around the same age
@@smargio pretty sure that Jason is Older than her.