The Meaning of Toranaga Smile in Yabushige Seppuku SHOGUN Episode 10 Explained
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- The Meaning of Toranaga Smile in Yabushige Seppuku SHOGUN Episode 10 Explained,Sh́gun's last episode skillfully completed the series by defying expectations and unveiling Lord Yoshii Toranaga's genuine objective.
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0:00 intro
00:31 REASON OF SMILE?
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My favorite quote from Yabushige which is also one of the best quotes in the series:
HOH!?
😂
i really like his expressiveness.
Even when begging for his life, Yabushige cracks me up. “Please! A cannon! Or angry fish! But not seppuku PLS 🙏 😭😭”
Yabushige was my favorite character! The acting was so well done, and he was the comic relief! Man the show is so good. ..
Any last words?
Yabushige: 🤪hehehe
👏😂
Yabu was such a great character and the actor that played him did a great job making him sympathethic. Slimy, cruel and selfish but he had the best comedic moments. His death poem killed me
There could be such a timeline. When Blackthorn in this death bed with his grandchildren then Yabushige barges in, full Elizabethan outfit.
"Come on John! You cannot go like this. Dying old is boring. At least on a pyre or better boiling!"
😂
Throw in Peter Pan and you have a deal.
I really hope the actress who plays Fuji, Moeka Hoshi, goes on to other big acting projects where she’s featured well. She’s such a young woman, 28, but she contains multitudes. She’s an incredible actress - and that’s saying something in such a wonderful and skilled cast.
And, of course, Anna Sawai is on another level entirely. In my opinion, Mariko carried the whole show: she was the lynchpin between Blackthorne and Toranaga in more ways than one. Her performance was a tour de force.
In my mind, I’m already concocting a buddy comedy where Fuji and Mariko travel around feudal Japan, just starting stuff. Shenanigans ensue. If Blackthorne can dream, so can I.
This is the second time I’ve seen Hiroyuki Sanada’s character behead Tadanobu Asano’s character. First it was in 47 Ronin and now in the last S1 episode of Shogun.
Actually really enjoyed this. 100% thought we were going to get a big battle scene, but thought it was a very bold choice for the show almost say "hey, we know you want a battle scene, it is going to happen, but you're not going to see it because that's not what the story is about." Especially the conversation with Yabushige and Toranaga, all of Yabushige's questions very much felt like what I was thinking ("what about the battle? Will you become Shogun? What about Anjin's ship and who destroyed it?"
I think in so many pieces of media I've become so used to the idea of there almost always being a large-scale epic battle at the end. Having the story instead take a more personal and intimate route (taking more of the episode to show characters dealing with the grief of losing Mariko) was a very different and memorable choice. Can ABSOLUTELY see why people would be letdown, but overall I thought it was a very solid ending
Although I am satisfied with the ending as it is, I have complete understanding of people wanting more conclusion. Although the show is not about action sequences, the upcoming battle IS a big part of the entire story. Two sides are placed opposite each other and all that scheming that Toranaga does, it is to give him an advantage FOR that battle. The assumption is made that Toranaga will win but it is not shown whether he actually does win and whether his plan worked. He decreased Ishido's numbers but will that be enough? There is no certainty to this, only assumption.
In the book we see that Toranaga wins the battle and captures Ishido. They don't need to film an expensive full battle to give this conclusion, they could have just shown the aftermath.
True. In a sense, we as spectator are a bit like Toranaga's late son. So eager to see the battlefield, while the battle is actually happening right under his/our nose. Really enjoyed the immersion, the world building as it's told is palpable, characters are credible. Great show.
I was wondering how they’d do the monologue. Glad they had that interaction with Yabushige instead.
That final scene between Toranaga and Yabushige where Toranaga divulged his plan is by far my favourite scene in the show. Absolutely incredible
but too much simple. It was really for international audience. In the book and the 80th serie Yabu was so much subtile
Toranaga: please slit your belly before sunset
No one.
Not a single soul.
Yabushige: NooOooO let me be blown up by canons! Or eaten alive by fish!!
He wanted a glorious death.
Poor Yabushige, i hate being confronted with accumulated consequences of my actions as well
There were still quite a lot of parallels between Adams and Blackthorne - the first two thing Adams did for Tokugawa was train his men in European cannon tactics and directing the Japanese building European-style ships - both are things we see in the series (the latter in this episode when Toranaga tells him to build him a fleet, though I guess that could be a bit iffy based on what he says to Yabushige).
Everything else Adams was notable for doing in Japan (i.e. helping establish free trade zones and expanding Japanese trade in the Asia Pacific and with Europe) would've been after the point where the series ended.
2:10 couldn't agree more. Everyone else talks about how loyal Mariko was, but she and Blackthorne were both used. I think Mariko's case is even worse precisely because she was really loyal. But I guess she wanted to die anyway. Blackthorne was just unwitting idiot because he didn't speak Japanese. He just walked into already difficult situation.
And Yabushige was going to betray anyone. The issue with Yabushige, my personal opinion, even though he is a traitor he just wanted to survive. I don't think he was really doing much to further himself. Yes, at the very beginning of the show but latter as things progressed he just wanted to survive. Toranaga was a muster puppeteer. No matter what he claimed he wanted for Japan he just used people. He is the bad guy.
Because real recognize real.
Towards the end when Yabushige was about to commit seppuku, he gave his nephew Omi his death poem (and before that declared him his heir), but then he gave his attendant his will (45:50 mark), afterwards there was a pause, the attendant looking clearly taken aback, and Omi looking surprised or even offended. Am I misinterpreting the scene or is Yabushige throwing some shade at Omi last minute and deciding to honor his attendant instead for his loyalty?
Also unrelated, I thought Yabushige killed his attendant in the previous episode? at least that's what it looked like through the screen doors
The will could just contain that Omi gets everything. I don't see any insult in expecting his servant to do the paperwork instead of his nephew.
Referencing the book, and the fact that the show had a habit of altering events, It’s likely that his Will contained extra instruction that he wanted carried out on Omi’s behalf but didn’t want Omi to know. Such as the fact that Yabu didn’t like Omi’s mother and he thinks she’d just get in Omi’s way and prevent him from carrying out Yabu’s wishes. Yabu wanted Omi’s mother to go away and become a nun
2:10 2:15
While I loved the series overall, I'm quite mixed on the finale. It makes sense and is certainly fitting, but was also very anti-climatic. Resolving the main plot by having Toranaga basically say "I've already won" was underwhelming. I mean, I get it, at this point the battle is a mere formality but it still felt anti-climatic. Similarly, the reveal that Blackthorne wasn't going to do anything truly important and was just a distraction makes sense, but also felt underwhelming.
Despite those complaints, there still was a ton of good in this episode. The standout being the reveal that Toranaga is not the honorable loyal lord he pretends to be, but every bit the vicious scheming power-hungry warlord that most of the rest are. He's just far better at it.
But he literally stopped a war before it happened. "You do believe in pointless death". He had to sacrifice a few to save japan and he did it😊
Fair point. Maybe due to money production problem, they decided this way.