I took your advice and purchased the x-compact grip for my P320 Compact. I now have the advantage of the upgraded grip module, a slightly longer sight picture, and no LCI obstructing my view. I don't need the removable optics plate or the x-ray sights, and I saved $650. Thanks for the great detailed review.
I am so happy u revived this hand gun. I am eagerly waiting for my cc licence and i have narrowed it down to a sig xcarry and the x compact. Your review helped me out alot bro, keep the reviews coming.
Loving my X-Compact so far. Sig has finally done something I didn't think was possible with the X-Series - weaned me off my classic all metal Sigs. I still love the high quality feel of the all-metal classics, but when it comes to what I reach for day in and day out, it's the X.
Great thorough review as always. I just had my one year anniversary with my G19 Gen 5 that I spent all year training and shooting exclusively and though still not a Glock fan-boy, I am very pleased with the Glock. I’ve been considering getting a Beretta 92 variant or a Sig 320 as a fun range toy since my two G19’s have satisfied my personal and home defense needs so well. Sort of on the fence as maybe the money for another gun might be better spent on more training in 2019...
Very good full review , picked one up at Vances in Columbus Ohio yesterday $679 + tax put about 100 rds so far. I really like it carry's good and good feel in the hand for me anyway. keep up the good work
got my Xcarry for $600....my recent XCompact-PRO for $559. The Pro has a smaller rear sight that stays in place enabling co-witnessing...and the plate screws are visible on top of slide so no need to take slide guts apart to reach two optic mounting screws. Sig. Better value than a Glock....better gun too.
Good review. Thanks for putting it out there. I do wonder if your review would be different given the the more accurate street price of about $650. At that price, compared to Glock 19, M&P 2.0 Compact, etc. the upgrades on the X-Compact seem to be much more inline for price. Night sights upgraded from a standard pistol is at least $75. Optic cut (if you want to add that to a standard pistol) is at least $75. I know Sig had several bad batches of tritium but that seems to have been fixed (crazy you got three bad ones.) Plus added features like the undercut, flared magwell, beaver tail, etc. I'd say that this gun seems to have plenty of value. All that said, I do like your video (first one I've seen) and will be sure to check out some others. Thanks!
Thanks for your review and I dont think you are wasting your time in your garage. Much appreciated. I'm trying to switch carry gun from p365. (Winter edc) this one seems logical.
Regarding the trigger, I replaced it with the Gray Guns trigger and it's fantastic at 4 lbs or less. 2 full mags at 8 yards, one ragged hole. That's with my Sig P320 X Carry with a Romeo1
@@X_USSR_Soldier Apparently you haven't even tried the Gray gun trigger. The trigger for the original system is 5.5 to 6.5 lbs. The Gray trigger is down to around 4 lbs. and way better.
Just joined the group because I really approach your no-nonsense approach. So thanks for that! You seemed to really sync with everything about the X Carry and had quite a few knocks on the X Compact. Do you still feel that way?
The F8 suppressor height sights from XS ought to give. you co-witness with the Deltapoint. The single small dot under the rear U notch combined with the tall front sight has plenty of light on either side of the blade while still having a good size day glow circle plus tritium center.
Good video J. I agree with you I think the grip itself might be were the value would be especially if they make a large size xcompact grip as the medium was to small for my hand. Might I suggest you get your hands on an Archon Type B for a review. Now that gun in my humble opinion is leagues above all the other players in the 9mm compact market. Super flat shooter, very accurate, and I can't stress this enough an excellent trigger right out of the box!
Thanks for the review. I’ve been looking at possibly getting an X-Carry and then saw they were coming out with an X-Compact, and I was curious about the differences between the two. I’ve found some X-Carry pistols for about $650 online. I’ve been a bit worried because I’ve heard of people having some reliability issues with them: failure to go into battery, failure to eject and your mention of the tritium sights. Maybe I’ll just stick with my M&P 2.0 compact, haha. I’ve done Trijicon HD night sights and an Apex trigger and I love it. Just looking for an excuse to blow some of my tax return money.
Mine actually came to me with the tritium out of the front sight! I put the tlr 7 light on mine with the 1913-2 adapter that it came with. That allowed it to fit nice and flush to the trigger guard. I bought a Delta point pro to throw on it with the rear sight attachment and an Ameriglo .400 front sight to cowitness. That did the trick for me!
My front sight on my X Ray 3 sights that are on my p365 failed as well after a couple months. Sig was great and sent me a new front sight for free with minimal questions asked. Other than that, I've had no functional issues with my 365. I know this is a review on the X Compact but the sights are the same.
Couldn't of said it better, I really like what they did with the frame... The slide though... Meh. The LCI is a down side, as is the odd rear sight/optic plate combo. Just gonna order the grip module and slap it on my sub compact slide for 45 bux to have what is IMO a better gun.
Thanks for the informative vid... questions I have: is the X-Compact pretensioned like the X-Five, X-Carry, and M17? Also, does the frame have a weight located near the grip just like the X-Five and X-Carry?
@@jhelmsing Thank you very much. I'll be keeping the X-Carry... just a little disappointed that I can't attach a Deltapoint Pro or upcoming Romeo 1 Pro on the X-Carry.
Really enjoyed your review. Very informative and helpful. I found it interesting that you were noticeably more critical of the X-Compact than the X-Carry even though they share many of the same features, ie: sights and trigger most specifically. Have your opinions of the X-Carry changed in a like fashion since you reviewed it? As I recall you reviewed the X-Carry in a very positive manner. BTW.... paid $679 for my X-Compact, certainly not as good a deal as the $650 I paid for my X-Carry with the Romeo1 but still quite a bit cheaper than you paid for your X-Compact. Thanks again for your reviews.
I think a lot of it is because the X-Carry was the harbinger. You couldnt get an X grip module, flat trigger or any if those without buying the gun when I reviewed it. Now that all of that is available as an add on it kinda waters down the package to some fancy serrations and an optics ready slide you can't cowitness. The X-Carry also has a different barrel as part of the package.
Thanks for replying so quickly! I have since watched your review of the M17 which was posted only about 6 months ago and you spoke positively about the XRAY3 front sight and the trigger much like the X-Carry, so I was curious to see if you had a true change in opinion concerning the various P320 pistols or if you truly were not all that impressed with that specific X-Compact even though it has the same sight set-up as the X-Carry and M17 and basically the same trigger. I do see your point about having the features specific to the X- line of pistols no longer being exclusive, and it makes sense. I find your reviews very informative and well done.
@@jameslobsinger7326 Thanks! This gun is very nice, don't get me wrong. The M-17 doesn't have the x-ray 3 sights. It has a similar rear plate but a special front that is more narrow and has a larger white dot than the regular sights. I actually like that sight setup the best overall as far as the factory Sig offerings 👌this X-compact has the same rear plate which is very nice. If I keep it I'll be switching out the front sight for one from Ameriglo more than likely.
Oops...you are correct about the front sight on the M17. I misread the description from the SIG web sight. Thanks again for taking the time to reply. It is much appreciated.
Hey so I am looking to get my hand held gun, I am interested in the CZ P07. But I live in California and for some reason they are not on the roster here. Is there any way to still get one here? Or am I dunzo with it? The x Carry or compact is my option two. Thanks a lot! Great videos!
There is nothing illegal about the gun being sold in california, put your zipcode in here in this cz dealer locator and have your ffl order you the gun you want if its not in stock. Keep in mind it will take a while because people are stupid and go crazy and horde everything during every little scare. cz-usa.com/dealers/locate-a-dealer/
Sorry for the long comment but...keep your vids as they were, it's worked out well for you. Thanks for being the first to mention about the co witness issue. Other content creators either don't realize it or refuse to bring it up. For a carry gun that alone has ruined it for me, for obvious reasons. And yes, the cost is ridiculous. One could just buy the P320RX Compact for $8 something or probably less now, and wait for Sig to release the X Carry grip, that way one could have it all, Romeo1 and co witness included. Please stay true to your oath to our Constitution my friend, stay safe, and thank you for your service to our country. Thanks for your honest reviews, you are much appreciated out here. Please stand with many fellow officers and refuse to enforce the Red Flag Law. Peace!
Finally a quality review by someone that I value their opinion. Thank You JH ! Trying to decide between the X Compact or the 509 Mid. Your review has me leaning to the FN. Any further thoughts on comparing the two ?
I pretty much wrote off the 509 Mid when it puked out on me repeatedly in water. For that reason alone I feel like the X-compact is a more reliable choice. That said it's expensive and really isn't much to write home about over the standard P320's.
I bought an Xcompact grip for my subcompact, and although I like the grip the slide release sticks out and does snag. The p320 std grip have the raised plastic around the slide release to keep it from snagging and it works. Why they did not design it into the X grip indicates that they may be getting out of touch. The higher price indicates it too, they seem to want to make everything a Legion.
I thought you said in your 2nd xcarry video you were a fan of the X-ray 3 sights but in this video you said you don’t like them...? Maybe I’m misunderstanding
Ok boss man great thorough review! PLEASE HELP!! I am seriouslly debating between the X carry and X compact. IDK which one to purchase im trading in my shitty rugar p95 for either of the 2 but i dont know which one to purchase. They both are the same price $599.99. So price isnt an issue. i just need a new EDC gun. I am leaning towards the x carry with stainless slide since its the same spec barrel length and round capacity as my shitty rugar but so many people are ranting and saying i should get a x compact. Either way one of those 2 will be in my possession next week but idk just one and need help decided. Thanks boss man keep up the great reviews
I got mine for $540 during a Sig promo event at local gun store. Not bad for a gun that comes with awesome iron sights and optics cut. (had to buy adapter plate to fit RMR though)
The P320 platform is my "go too" as my EDC. It's the pistol I spend the majority time shooting. I just shoot it best and that brings confidence. This being said . . I prefer the regular P320 in the compact. I prefer the grip and ergos. My P320C has the Apex flat trigger (shoe only) and Ameriglo Hackathorn night sights. Other than these two mods . . fairly stock. I prefer it over the X series. There is a no bigger Sig fan than I. However, the P320 X Compact asking price does not offer enough value to justify the price. IMO
I'm wondering if I should just get the P320 Compact instead of the X. They have some really nice prices right now and I don't see the reasoning behind spending a couple extra hundred for the X
I was thinking of switching this to my daily carry, but I’m stilly weary of Sig’s quality control and how much stuff they are putting out these days. My local range had a demo day but didn’t have one of these. I always regret buying a gun without shooting it first.
I agree that the xcompact does not add enough to spend the money. Secondly, maybe it's me, but I may like the original P320 grip better. I like the rounded feel and how it fills the hand . . I find it comfortable. The P320 Compact is my primary edc . . the pistol I train with and rely upon. Changes are scrutinized. My decision was different night sights (Ameriglo Hackathorn . . I like the bright tritium front sight and blacked out rear). Secondly, installed the Apex flat trigger. IMO, I spent money wiser and have added meaningful improvement. I made the transition to the P320 platform from the G19 as my edc and have zero regrets. I have a safe full of pistols, I am an enthusiast, and enjoy all of them. For me, my opinion and preferences, theP320 platform offers ease of maintenance, value, reliability and shootability. I really enjoy this pistol.
Nicely done as usual. I handled the X-Compact Friday at NRAAM and was really impressed. The ergos, balance and trigger were excellent. I thought it was a great size for carry. On videos I know will be longer I've added time stamps in the description. Viewers can click the time and automatically go directly to a specific part of the review. Gives them an option to at least watch some of the video instead of skipping it when they see the length. 👍
@@jhelmsing I should have pointed out I don't think you get long winded because you offer some great info. Long winded to me are the ones who go on without saying anything.
Sig is making waves for sure. The 365 is spectacular now that they've got the bugs out. The 320 is solid as well. But IMO not for more than $650. Tuff when the CZ P series is an option. Happy to see so many great guns to spend money on now! Great review!
If I was going to go to sig over my m&p, I would just get a subcompact, mill it for the Romeo, add co witness sights and get a grey gun trigger. That gets me the trigger, the sights, and the size I want.
Great review! I Frankin siged it lol! Xcompact, plus the x carry slide. I love this setup. I know probably a little expensive but it's just money! Lol!
i would agree 800 is too much, but bought for $640 from LGS. Seems like a great package so far. Going to by my first optic handgun. Can anyone confirm what front sight height will witness with DPP rear sight?
It's a great comment to say that these x models for carry aren't different enough to justify the price. I think if they wanted to do a good x carry or x compact right, they should have done what beretta did with the px4 storm compact and Langdon tactical. Change the trigger to better break and weight and include a romeo pro for 7 to 800.
If you liked the 320 the 320 x will suit you better or it did me.. only thing this video is missing is time at the range... I might be a above average shooter but .. the upgrade from the reg 320 to the 320 x is without doubt a upgrade.
I have a feeling that all of the original Romeo 1 optics with that footprint will be phased out for the new DPP style. Nothing official but based on the fire sale of old X-Carry models I think those sights will eventually go away, although Sig has said they will offer both for a time.
@@Joejunksitjunkremoval it is not a flush fit with the dust cover. I actually put that slide on the frame towards the end of this video. The subcompact is flush with the dust cover.
Thanks for the honest review. I'm still on the fence about this gun. Do I just spend some extra $$ to customize my g19 (Grip) or wait for the price to drop ?
Sig store has a 320 compact slide with a Romeo 1 and raised suppressor sights for $399. Get the X grip module for $49 and replace the trigger with a flat face for another $40. Cheaper and same gun. 🤷♂️
Hoping to find videos of average-sized men standing up and showing what a concealed carry situation looks like with the p320 xcompact. I can carry this thing appendix with no holster but with an iwb holster with no sidecar and a regular, casual-fit tee shirt, the bulge protrusion is completely ridiculous. The entire rig is just too thick. It seems I’m going to have to get a hold of an m&p shield to actually conceal a pistol in the summertime. I’m 6’1” tall, 176lbs with a 32-33” waist. At any rate, the sig sauer p320 xcompact with a tlr-7 and romeo 1pro and a 17rd mag inserted is a super-handsome firearm. And you can just adjust the rmr to the extreme if co-witnessing is an absolute must but I have my red dot adjusted so the dot is in the center of the window for really decent shot placement at 25yds - very fast target acquisition.
Great review, but you have more patience with a manufacturer than I do. The tritium going out in 3 separate guns is an awful track record. Also, the gas blowback being bad enough to make you have to clean your Optic is poor design. Oh well, it’s not my pistol. But thanks for the in depth review because this was on my short list.
Nice video. You showed pros and cons that other videos do not show. One suggestion when you wear a black shirt with a black gun it is very hard to see the features on the gun that you are describing.
So, I'm pretty much at the decision that the X Compact is not worth buying, for me. I am a big fan of the P320 series and I own the P320C, SC and X Carry. The X Compact grip module might be nice to get later. A much more affordable option to the X Compact would be the excellent M&P M2.0 Compact 3.6. I agree with you on the sights. I found I'm more accurate with the standard P320 Sig night sights. Never had an XRay3 fail though. I have to disagree with you on shooting the P320 accurately is more difficult and had to be worked at. I found the P320 really easy to shoot accurately when new to the platform. I shot it much better from the start than I ever did with Flicks, FN, CZ and M&P. Great videos and keep it up!
The trigger seems to be a different animal. Some people shoot them really easily and some people have to work at it. I'm in the latter mainly because of the way it pulls after the "wall". If I train a lot on it, it's a non issue but if I switch from a Glock, M&P or DA/SA directly to it there is a learning curve for me.
@@jhelmsing Yeah that is how I am with the M&P. If I have not shot one in a while, it takes me some to get familiar with it again. Was that your duty P320 Compact I saw with the crest on the top of the slide?
Bought one for $599 used. Picked up another from a buddy, never been shot for $500. Well worth it when u consider Glocks are that much or more with shitty plastic sights, bigger size/capacity ratio, not optic ready, no forward serrations, not modular and the x ray sights on the sig are off the hook. Picatinny rail is also more standard in the industry. It's a no brainer to me.
Was at the range this past Sunday, shot 350 rds btw the P320 X Compact with Glock 19 Gen 5. Shot much better w/the Sig - both slow and rapid fire drills at multiple distances (7, 10, 15 and 20 yds). Grip, sights, and trigger far superior with the Sig.
Personally, and maybe it is just preference, but I like to load the mag with the slide already locked to the rear. Makes seating the mag, and racking a non issue even on a full mag.
While that’s true, I would rather not have my slide lock if I’m in a competition or gunfight. I would always choose to load with a round still in the chamber.
I usually enjoy your reviews, but you led with the price of 'around $800', which is way higher than the MSRP of $679 as reported by TFB. In fact I have yet to see a p320 XCompact for more than $689.
"Not as accurate as the bigger guns" Wrong Mercury! I have a P365, X-compact, and X-carry and that's how they rank in accuracy (for me and in my hands) anyway. I think there's an advantage (accuracy wise) in the P365 having full length rails. The accuracy difference is barely noticeable but can be noticed.
I have noticed similar findings in some of my smaller guns. I'm referring more to overall mechanical accuracy potential, not out of the hand. I've pretty much given up on comparing accuracy out of different guns out of the hand because it's largely futile. Small discrepancies in the trigger, ergonomics, ammo and shooter concentration are most likely the factors involved there. In mechanical accuracy, longer is better. Sight radius offers more precision to the shooter, more velocity allows a flatter trajectory and typically better lock-up and more control over bullet spin and velocity this less discrepancy between rounds. If this weren't the case, the box wouldn't exist in competitive shooting and USPSA would be full of pocket rockets.
@@jhelmsing I get it. Agree with all you opined with. Was mostly just picking on you, hence the "Mercury" comment as you very much seem to be the type of person that would be able to give and take jabs without needing crayons and a coloring book. Thanks for the reply. Nice report and video. Forgot to mention... Nice background and thanks for your service!
With the guards around the slide stop releases like the regular P320 and an extention on the front of the magazine like the P2022 with an optional safety l would consider it. Then you could run a regular P320 trigger module if you wanted.
I don’t know why you weren’t able to shoot yours with exceptional accuracy, I shoot mine extremely well! My trigger breaks very clean and I actually love the X-Ray 3 Sights. I pretty much have to disagree with your opinion on this pistol! The only thing I agree with is the loaded chamber indicator will force released gas up on the optic.
Perhaps it was a bit misleading. The gun is very accurate, I just didn't find it really any moreso than a standard P320 SC or Compact. In other renditions of the X pistol, you got a different target barrel or more barrel pretension which actually aided in overall accuracy / lock up. This model is largely devoid of any of that, and that is my quibble. If someone asked if they should get a P320 compact for 450$ or a X-compact for 750$ I'd probably side on the standard P320 compact because they are functionally identical. Perhaps the new more ergonomic grip works better with your hands. Even if that's the case, I'm sure it will be available as a stand alone offering / upgrade to the standard P320 due to the modularity of the P320.
@@jhelmsing I have the x carry , if I wanted the frame to have a smaller butt for concealed carry would I get the p 320 compact frame and it would fit my slide of the x carry ???
I do like the full review. Thanks for doing both for all of us.
I admit I love the way you do the videos, I love how you go into the details.
Thanks for the review. I have been looking at the X-compact.
I took your advice and purchased the x-compact grip for my P320 Compact. I now have the advantage of the upgraded grip module, a slightly longer sight picture, and no LCI obstructing my view. I don't need the removable optics plate or the x-ray sights, and I saved $650. Thanks for the great detailed review.
I am so happy u revived this hand gun. I am eagerly waiting for my cc licence and i have narrowed it down to a sig xcarry and the x compact. Your review helped me out alot bro, keep the reviews coming.
Maybe consider the p365 flawless for me 2019 build
Waynes World xcompact is a better gun
@@texasghost6725 How is it a better gun?
The 365 is for small hands. This one is better for man hands.
Awesome review as always brother. 👍🏼
Loving my X-Compact so far. Sig has finally done something I didn't think was possible with the X-Series - weaned me off my classic all metal Sigs. I still love the high quality feel of the all-metal classics, but when it comes to what I reach for day in and day out, it's the X.
I enjoy the length of the videos !
Ive been waiting for this
Suggestions: please do a video on Beretta 92A1 night sight options and installing them. Thank you for the review!
Great thorough review as always. I just had my one year anniversary with my G19 Gen 5 that I spent all year training and shooting exclusively and though still not a Glock fan-boy, I am very pleased with the Glock. I’ve been considering getting a Beretta 92 variant or a Sig 320 as a fun range toy since my two G19’s have satisfied my personal and home defense needs so well. Sort of on the fence as maybe the money for another gun might be better spent on more training in 2019...
Very good full review , picked one up at Vances in Columbus Ohio yesterday $679 + tax put about 100 rds so far. I really like it carry's good and good feel in the hand for me anyway. keep up the good work
I love being able to pull the fire control module out because it makes the gun extremely easy to clean, just wipe everything down.
Reviews top notch breh 👍🏿
Great review
Great review bro! I’m thinking of buying one, it would be my first sig. would you say it feels top heavy? And does it have a lot of muzzle flip?
got my Xcarry for $600....my recent XCompact-PRO for $559. The Pro has a smaller rear sight that stays in place enabling co-witnessing...and the plate screws are visible on top of slide so no need to take slide guts apart to reach two optic mounting screws. Sig. Better value than a Glock....better gun too.
Good review. Thanks for putting it out there. I do wonder if your review would be different given the the more accurate street price of about $650. At that price, compared to Glock 19, M&P 2.0 Compact, etc. the upgrades on the X-Compact seem to be much more inline for price. Night sights upgraded from a standard pistol is at least $75. Optic cut (if you want to add that to a standard pistol) is at least $75. I know Sig had several bad batches of tritium but that seems to have been fixed (crazy you got three bad ones.) Plus added features like the undercut, flared magwell, beaver tail, etc. I'd say that this gun seems to have plenty of value. All that said, I do like your video (first one I've seen) and will be sure to check out some others. Thanks!
Thanks for your review and I dont think you are wasting your time in your garage. Much appreciated. I'm trying to switch carry gun from p365. (Winter edc) this one seems logical.
By far the best review of the 320x compact. Cheers.
Regarding the trigger, I replaced it with the Gray Guns trigger and it's fantastic at 4 lbs or less. 2 full mags at 8 yards, one ragged hole. That's with my Sig P320 X Carry with a Romeo1
it was fantastic even without replacing the trigger. What a waste of money, dude!
@@X_USSR_Soldier Apparently you haven't even tried the Gray gun trigger. The trigger for the original system is 5.5 to 6.5 lbs. The Gray trigger is down to around 4 lbs. and way better.
Just joined the group because I really approach your no-nonsense approach. So thanks for that! You seemed to really sync with everything about the X Carry and had quite a few knocks on the X Compact. Do you still feel that way?
Good review!!
The F8 suppressor height sights from XS ought to give. you co-witness with the Deltapoint. The single small dot under the rear U notch combined with the tall front sight has plenty of light on either side of the blade while still having a good size day glow circle plus tritium center.
Like the new format
Helmsing between the 2 would you recommend the x carry or compact?
How's the PX4 Storm Compact Carry doing, have you done anything else to it?
Bobbed hammer and the new carry levers. It's one of my main go-to carry guns.
Good video J.
I agree with you I think the grip itself might be were the value would be especially if they make a large size xcompact grip as the medium was to small for my hand.
Might I suggest you get your hands on an Archon Type B for a review.
Now that gun in my humble opinion is leagues above all the other players in the 9mm compact market.
Super flat shooter, very accurate, and I can't stress this enough an excellent trigger right out of the box!
The best real break down of pistols. Obvious a fellow police firearms instructor. Great job.
Thanks for the review. I’ve been looking at possibly getting an X-Carry and then saw they were coming out with an X-Compact, and I was curious about the differences between the two. I’ve found some X-Carry pistols for about $650 online. I’ve been a bit worried because I’ve heard of people having some reliability issues with them: failure to go into battery, failure to eject and your mention of the tritium sights. Maybe I’ll just stick with my M&P 2.0 compact, haha. I’ve done Trijicon HD night sights and an Apex trigger and I love it. Just looking for an excuse to blow some of my tax return money.
I think the "greener pastures" effect gets all of us at one time or another.
J Helmsing, I ended up getting a Canik TP9 Elite Combat Executive....same thing as the combat model, but black and gold instead of FDE.
Mine actually came to me with the tritium out of the front sight! I put the tlr 7 light on mine with the 1913-2 adapter that it came with. That allowed it to fit nice and flush to the trigger guard. I bought a Delta point pro to throw on it with the rear sight attachment and an Ameriglo .400 front sight to cowitness. That did the trick for me!
Would you be willing/able to do a comparison between the X-Compact and the Glock 43x?
I know you did this video a while back but the new P320 pro series fixed the LCI situation. Overall, great video and content.
My front sight on my X Ray 3 sights that are on my p365 failed as well after a couple months. Sig was great and sent me a new front sight for free with minimal questions asked. Other than that, I've had no functional issues with my 365. I know this is a review on the X Compact but the sights are the same.
And do what I do, as I like the X-Grip, I use the sub-compact slide on the X-Compact grip. As I really hate the loaded chamber indicator in the way...
Couldn't of said it better, I really like what they did with the frame... The slide though... Meh. The LCI is a down side, as is the odd rear sight/optic plate combo. Just gonna order the grip module and slap it on my sub compact slide for 45 bux to have what is IMO a better gun.
Just started watching and subscribed. i enjoy your reviews and find them very in-depth and informative. Going through your other video's to catch up.
Thanks for the informative vid... questions I have: is the X-Compact pretensioned like the X-Five, X-Carry, and M17? Also, does the frame have a weight located near the grip just like the X-Five and X-Carry?
No grip weight, no aggressive barrel pretension like the X-five and X-Carry.
@@jhelmsing Thank you very much. I'll be keeping the X-Carry... just a little disappointed that I can't attach a Deltapoint Pro or upcoming Romeo 1 Pro on the X-Carry.
Have you tried the F8 from XS? I find it addresses all your concerns. I like it, a lot.
I've heard of them but never had the opportunity to use them. I'll check them out!
Really enjoyed your review. Very informative and helpful. I found it interesting that you were noticeably more critical of the X-Compact than the X-Carry even though they share many of the same features, ie: sights and trigger most specifically. Have your opinions of the X-Carry changed in a like fashion since you reviewed it? As I recall you reviewed the X-Carry in a very positive manner. BTW.... paid $679 for my X-Compact, certainly not as good a deal as the $650 I paid for my X-Carry with the Romeo1 but still quite a bit cheaper than you paid for your X-Compact. Thanks again for your reviews.
I think a lot of it is because the X-Carry was the harbinger. You couldnt get an X grip module, flat trigger or any if those without buying the gun when I reviewed it. Now that all of that is available as an add on it kinda waters down the package to some fancy serrations and an optics ready slide you can't cowitness. The X-Carry also has a different barrel as part of the package.
Thanks for replying so quickly! I have since watched your review of the M17 which was posted only about 6 months ago and you spoke positively about the XRAY3 front sight and the trigger much like the X-Carry, so I was curious to see if you had a true change in opinion concerning the various P320 pistols or if you truly were not all that impressed with that specific X-Compact even though it has the same sight set-up as the X-Carry and M17 and basically the same trigger. I do see your point about having the features specific to the X- line of pistols no longer being exclusive, and it makes sense. I find your reviews very informative and well done.
@@jameslobsinger7326 Thanks! This gun is very nice, don't get me wrong. The M-17 doesn't have the x-ray 3 sights. It has a similar rear plate but a special front that is more narrow and has a larger white dot than the regular sights. I actually like that sight setup the best overall as far as the factory Sig offerings 👌this X-compact has the same rear plate which is very nice. If I keep it I'll be switching out the front sight for one from Ameriglo more than likely.
Oops...you are correct about the front sight on the M17. I misread the description from the SIG web sight. Thanks again for taking the time to reply. It is much appreciated.
Hey so I am looking to get my hand held gun, I am interested in the CZ P07. But I live in California and for some reason they are not on the roster here. Is there any way to still get one here? Or am I dunzo with it? The x Carry or compact is my option two. Thanks a lot!
Great videos!
There is nothing illegal about the gun being sold in california, put your zipcode in here in this cz dealer locator and have your ffl order you the gun you want if its not in stock. Keep in mind it will take a while because people are stupid and go crazy and horde everything during every little scare. cz-usa.com/dealers/locate-a-dealer/
I’d rather have a full review than Cliff Notes. The deep dive gives me everything I need to decide on purchasing a weapon.
Sorry for the long comment but...keep your vids as they were, it's worked out well for you. Thanks for being the first to mention about the co witness issue. Other content creators either don't realize it or refuse to bring it up. For a carry gun that alone has ruined it for me, for obvious reasons. And yes, the cost is ridiculous. One could just buy the P320RX Compact for $8 something or probably less now, and wait for Sig to release the X Carry grip, that way one could have it all, Romeo1 and co witness included. Please stay true to your oath to our Constitution my friend, stay safe, and thank you for your service to our country. Thanks for your honest reviews, you are much appreciated out here.
Please stand with many fellow officers and refuse to enforce the Red Flag Law. Peace!
👊👍 "shall not be infringed" is pretty clear English to me.
Finally a quality review by someone that I value their opinion. Thank You JH ! Trying to decide between the X Compact or the 509 Mid. Your review has me leaning to the FN. Any further thoughts on comparing the two ?
I pretty much wrote off the 509 Mid when it puked out on me repeatedly in water. For that reason alone I feel like the X-compact is a more reliable choice. That said it's expensive and really isn't much to write home about over the standard P320's.
And then I saw your CZ P-07 Review... 👍
I bought an Xcompact grip for my subcompact, and although I like the grip the slide release sticks out and does snag. The p320 std grip have the raised plastic around the slide release to keep it from snagging and it works. Why they did not design it into the X grip indicates that they may be getting out of touch. The higher price indicates it too, they seem to want to make everything a Legion.
Dawson precision .400 height fronts cowitness pretty well with the dpp rear insert.
I couldn't get mine to cowitness. Hopefully the new Sig optics sit lower.
I may have to put my g19 away and get this for carry & home defense. And it works with pl mini 2 Valkyrie
I thought you said in your 2nd xcarry video you were a fan of the X-ray 3 sights but in this video you said you don’t like them...? Maybe I’m misunderstanding
New sub ty for the info
Ok boss man great thorough review! PLEASE HELP!! I am seriouslly debating between the X carry and X compact. IDK which one to purchase im trading in my shitty rugar p95 for either of the 2 but i dont know which one to purchase. They both are the same price $599.99. So price isnt an issue. i just need a new EDC gun. I am leaning towards the x carry with stainless slide since its the same spec barrel length and round capacity as my shitty rugar but so many people are ranting and saying i should get a x compact. Either way one of those 2 will be in my possession next week but idk just one and need help decided. Thanks boss man keep up the great reviews
X carry 👍🏼
@@jhelmsing i should have known i saw your x carry review. Thanks boss
I got mine for $540 during a Sig promo event at local gun store. Not bad for a gun that comes with awesome iron sights and optics cut. (had to buy adapter plate to fit RMR though)
The P320 platform is my "go too" as my EDC. It's the pistol I spend the majority time shooting. I just shoot it best and that brings confidence. This being said . . I prefer the regular P320 in the compact. I prefer the grip and ergos. My P320C has the Apex flat trigger (shoe only) and Ameriglo Hackathorn night sights. Other than these two mods . . fairly stock. I prefer it over the X series. There is a no bigger Sig fan than I. However, the P320 X Compact asking price does not offer enough value to justify the price. IMO
I'm wondering if I should just get the P320 Compact instead of the X. They have some really nice prices right now and I don't see the reasoning behind spending a couple extra hundred for the X
I only shoot an optics in matches only so I don't really worry about cowitnesd sights. Maybe I should try some different sights
I was thinking of switching this to my daily carry, but I’m stilly weary of Sig’s quality control and how much stuff they are putting out these days. My local range had a demo day but didn’t have one of these. I always regret buying a gun without shooting it first.
What light do you have on the X CARRY grip frame? How do you like it? I am in the market for light for my X carry.
That's an inforce aplc. It fits well and has worked pretty well for me.
J Helmsing thanks
Olight pl mini 2 is a great light option for this pistol
I agree that the xcompact does not add enough to spend the money. Secondly, maybe it's me, but I may like the original P320 grip better. I like the rounded feel and how it fills the hand . . I find it comfortable. The P320 Compact is my primary edc . . the pistol I train with and rely upon. Changes are scrutinized. My decision was different night sights (Ameriglo Hackathorn . . I like the bright tritium front sight and blacked out rear). Secondly, installed the Apex flat trigger. IMO, I spent money wiser and have added meaningful improvement. I made the transition to the P320 platform from the G19 as my edc and have zero regrets. I have a safe full of pistols, I am an enthusiast, and enjoy all of them. For me, my opinion and preferences, theP320 platform offers ease of maintenance, value, reliability and shootability. I really enjoy this pistol.
That dirty optic issue seems like a huge oversight
It's a real annoyance. Actually that whole LCI is.
I enjoyed the pedantic rambling with some knowledge splashed in.
Do you think I'm going to be able to use the gun part of the p320 compact with th p320 x compact frame?
Yes
Great review as always. BTW I like when you ramble.
😁👊👍
Nicely done as usual. I handled the X-Compact Friday at NRAAM and was really impressed. The ergos, balance and trigger were excellent. I thought it was a great size for carry.
On videos I know will be longer I've added time stamps in the description. Viewers can click the time and automatically go directly to a specific part of the review. Gives them an option to at least watch some of the video instead of skipping it when they see the length. 👍
Awesome! Thanks for the advice! 👊👍
@@jhelmsing I should have pointed out I don't think you get long winded because you offer some great info. Long winded to me are the ones who go on without saying anything.
Sig is making waves for sure. The 365 is spectacular now that they've got the bugs out. The 320 is solid as well. But IMO not for more than $650. Tuff when the CZ P series is an option. Happy to see so many great guns to spend money on now! Great review!
I was torn between the 229 and P-07, went P-07. If we are talking striker guns... P-10C all day everyday over the P320.
If I was going to go to sig over my m&p, I would just get a subcompact, mill it for the Romeo, add co witness sights and get a grey gun trigger. That gets me the trigger, the sights, and the size I want.
Great review! I Frankin siged it lol! Xcompact, plus the x carry slide. I love this setup. I know probably a little expensive but it's just money! Lol!
Tony Mischke hows the gun function with the xcarry frame extending past the xcompact slide?
@@texasghost6725 I'm running mine the other way around. X compact frame with the x carry slide. This configuration functions normal, no failures.
i would agree 800 is too much, but bought for $640 from LGS. Seems like a great package so far. Going to by my first optic handgun.
Can anyone confirm what front sight height will witness with DPP rear sight?
Manitou is the gun cut for a dpp?
@@texasghost6725 it is indeed
It's a great comment to say that these x models for carry aren't different enough to justify the price. I think if they wanted to do a good x carry or x compact right, they should have done what beretta did with the px4 storm compact and Langdon tactical. Change the trigger to better break and weight and include a romeo pro for 7 to 800.
If you liked the 320 the 320 x will suit you better or it did me.. only thing this video is missing is time at the range... I might be a above average shooter but .. the upgrade from the reg 320 to the 320 x is without doubt a upgrade.
I have a P320 RX Full Size, should I sell it before the new sig optics comes out since they wont fit the romeo 1 foot print?
I have a feeling that all of the original Romeo 1 optics with that footprint will be phased out for the new DPP style. Nothing official but based on the fire sale of old X-Carry models I think those sights will eventually go away, although Sig has said they will offer both for a time.
@@jhelmsing Thank you for replying back to me. That was helpful.
Will a p320 Compact slide fit on this x Compact frame???? Great video brother
Yes
@@jhelmsing is it flush or no and if not will the subcompact fit flush
@@jhelmsing thanks in advance for your help
@@Joejunksitjunkremoval it is not a flush fit with the dust cover. I actually put that slide on the frame towards the end of this video. The subcompact is flush with the dust cover.
Thanks for the honest review. I'm still on the fence about this gun. Do I just spend some extra $$ to customize my g19 (Grip) or wait for the price to drop ?
I'm on the fence and I own it 😂
@@jhelmsing the only appeal is the new grip frame. If Glock would just give me an undercut out of the box it would be my "One Gun".
J Helmsing - Are you still around??? Haven't seen a video upload from you for at least a month, if not more. What's up?!?!
Working on the Arex Delta. I'll have it out in a week or so. Wanted to do some more extensive testing since it's brand new to the market.
Sig store has a 320 compact slide with a Romeo 1 and raised suppressor sights for $399. Get the X grip module for $49 and replace the trigger with a flat face for another $40. Cheaper and same gun. 🤷♂️
Hoping to find videos of average-sized men standing up and showing what a concealed carry situation looks like with the p320 xcompact. I can carry this thing appendix with no holster but with an iwb holster with no sidecar and a regular, casual-fit tee shirt, the bulge protrusion is completely ridiculous. The entire rig is just too thick.
It seems I’m going to have to get a hold of an m&p shield to actually conceal a pistol in the summertime. I’m 6’1” tall, 176lbs with a 32-33” waist.
At any rate, the sig sauer p320 xcompact with a tlr-7 and romeo 1pro and a 17rd mag inserted is a super-handsome firearm. And you can just adjust the rmr to the extreme if co-witnessing is an absolute must but I have my red dot adjusted so the dot is in the center of the window for really decent shot placement at 25yds - very fast target acquisition.
Great review, but you have more patience with a manufacturer than I do. The tritium going out in 3 separate guns is an awful track record. Also, the gas blowback being bad enough to make you have to clean your Optic is poor design. Oh well, it’s not my pistol.
But thanks for the in depth review because this was on my short list.
Nice video. You showed pros and cons that other videos do not show. One suggestion when you wear a black shirt with a black gun it is very hard to see the features on the gun that you are describing.
Were you able to find front sight for x carry to cowitness with romeo1?
Yes, the standard sight on the X5 cowitnesses with the stock notch in the Romeo 1 body.
@@jhelmsing can you tell me if the dot sits right on top of the sight lollypop or does it cut in half?
@@cvello3275 closer to cutting it in half
So, I'm pretty much at the decision that the X Compact is not worth buying, for me. I am a big fan of the P320 series and I own the P320C, SC and X Carry. The X Compact grip module might be nice to get later. A much more affordable option to the X Compact would be the excellent M&P M2.0 Compact 3.6.
I agree with you on the sights. I found I'm more accurate with the standard P320 Sig night sights. Never had an XRay3 fail though. I have to disagree with you on shooting the P320 accurately is more difficult and had to be worked at. I found the P320 really easy to shoot accurately when new to the platform. I shot it much better from the start than I ever did with Flicks, FN, CZ and M&P.
Great videos and keep it up!
The trigger seems to be a different animal. Some people shoot them really easily and some people have to work at it. I'm in the latter mainly because of the way it pulls after the "wall". If I train a lot on it, it's a non issue but if I switch from a Glock, M&P or DA/SA directly to it there is a learning curve for me.
@@jhelmsing Yeah that is how I am with the M&P. If I have not shot one in a while, it takes me some to get familiar with it again. Was that your duty P320 Compact I saw with the crest on the top of the slide?
Yes it is. We have both compact and full sized P320's issued to us.
@@jhelmsing Very nice. Are yall running 9mm? Many departments here in Texas have gone to 9mm from 357SIG.
@@82lowe36id yes, 9mm Sig V-crown
I’ve seen them for as low as 599. I purchased my X-Carry brand new with the Romeo one for 689
This is the X-compact. The X-Carry is dirt cheap right now.
Right I understand but I’ve seen them at $599-629 as well
Sometimes the xcarry is really cheap cuz it has the old cutout which will only accommodate a Romeo 1. The newer ones will accommodate a Leupold DPP
I bought the Xcompact for $529 ITS NOT A $800 gun, unless you want to pay msrp at a cabelas or a dick(heads) sporting goods store
Grip module is available now
Welp, there go the X-compact sales 😂
Bought one for $599 used. Picked up another from a buddy, never been shot for $500. Well worth it when u consider Glocks are that much or more with shitty plastic sights, bigger size/capacity ratio, not optic ready, no forward serrations, not modular and the x ray sights on the sig are off the hook. Picatinny rail is also more standard in the industry. It's a no brainer to me.
Was at the range this past Sunday, shot 350 rds btw the P320 X Compact with Glock 19 Gen 5. Shot much better w/the Sig - both slow and rapid fire drills at multiple distances (7, 10, 15 and 20 yds). Grip, sights, and trigger far superior with the Sig.
Which do you prefer the x compact or the x carry
X-Carry
The Olight pl mini 2 fits perfectly on this gun. I got one of the first ones and carry it at night with the Olight on it.
D Beard the streamlight tlr8 also fits good.
Good review. I’ll take long winded to torturing the viewer with 10 minutes of range ballet which is commonplace
Great review Sir, I was between the sub-compact and the X-Compact, after the review, I will go with the sub-compact.
Yep, I just want the X-compact grip frame to go with my p320 compact. Then I believe I have to buy X-compact mags or mag bases
If you have the mags with the square base plate retainer they with work in the X grip mod
Just shave for the extra material on the wings of old mags to fit the new grips...
Personally, and maybe it is just preference, but I like to load the mag with the slide already locked to the rear. Makes seating the mag, and racking a non issue even on a full mag.
While that’s true, I would rather not have my slide lock if I’m in a competition or gunfight. I would always choose to load with a round still in the chamber.
@@jjsemperfi, I am referring to if the weapon is condition 4, and has not yet been loaded.
Ethan Ah, gotcha. Disregard.
Got mine for six
I usually enjoy your reviews, but you led with the price of 'around $800', which is way higher than the MSRP of $679 as reported by TFB. In fact I have yet to see a p320 XCompact for more than $689.
I can only tell you what I paid for it, which was 730$ when it came out plus tax. Which is way too much. So is 700$.
Whatever happened to the glock 45?
glock pistols are so far behind the curve.
"Not as accurate as the bigger guns"
Wrong Mercury!
I have a P365, X-compact, and X-carry and that's how they rank in accuracy (for me and in my hands) anyway.
I think there's an advantage (accuracy wise) in the P365 having full length rails.
The accuracy difference is barely noticeable but can be noticed.
I have noticed similar findings in some of my smaller guns. I'm referring more to overall mechanical accuracy potential, not out of the hand. I've pretty much given up on comparing accuracy out of different guns out of the hand because it's largely futile. Small discrepancies in the trigger, ergonomics, ammo and shooter concentration are most likely the factors involved there. In mechanical accuracy, longer is better. Sight radius offers more precision to the shooter, more velocity allows a flatter trajectory and typically better lock-up and more control over bullet spin and velocity this less discrepancy between rounds. If this weren't the case, the box wouldn't exist in competitive shooting and USPSA would be full of pocket rockets.
@@jhelmsing
I get it.
Agree with all you opined with. Was mostly just picking on you, hence the "Mercury" comment as you very much seem to be the type of person that would be able to give and take jabs without needing crayons and a coloring book.
Thanks for the reply.
Nice report and video.
Forgot to mention... Nice background and thanks for your service!
@@holdtight9789 absolutely brother! 👍👊
With the guards around the slide stop releases like the regular P320 and an extention on the front of the magazine like the P2022 with an optional safety l would consider it.
Then you could run a regular P320 trigger module if you wanted.
I saw one in a store for 625....it went home with me
My local Sig dealer had EVERYTHING in the store 10% off July 4th weekend so the XCompact went home with me for $608+tax .
It seems like you prefer XCarry over the XCompact
I don’t know why you weren’t able to shoot yours with exceptional accuracy, I shoot mine extremely well! My trigger breaks very clean and I actually love the X-Ray 3 Sights. I pretty much have to disagree with your opinion on this pistol! The only thing I agree with is the loaded chamber indicator will force released gas up on the optic.
Perhaps it was a bit misleading. The gun is very accurate, I just didn't find it really any moreso than a standard P320 SC or Compact. In other renditions of the X pistol, you got a different target barrel or more barrel pretension which actually aided in overall accuracy / lock up. This model is largely devoid of any of that, and that is my quibble. If someone asked if they should get a P320 compact for 450$ or a X-compact for 750$ I'd probably side on the standard P320 compact because they are functionally identical. Perhaps the new more ergonomic grip works better with your hands. Even if that's the case, I'm sure it will be available as a stand alone offering / upgrade to the standard P320 due to the modularity of the P320.
YOU PAID $800??????? Where did you buy it? They must have see you coming. I purchased this exact gun for $529
Personal preference, 320 XCarry or Compact?
X-Carry has my vote
@@jhelmsing I have the x carry , if I wanted the frame to have a smaller butt for concealed carry would I get the p 320 compact frame and it would fit my slide of the x carry ???
@@kevinnielsen4321 yes on both, or the x compact frame. Either will work.
@@jhelmsing thanks, have been enjoying your videos so I became a subscriber .
@@kevinnielsen4321 I appreciate it!
I got a p320 compact 40 s&w for $350 from a friend that didn't like it.
STEAL
Drink the “Glock” kool-aid? Wow, brother! That’s a new one! Lol
Time to review a 509 tactical
I'll have to get my hands on one, although I'm less than impressed with FN and how they've handled the water issues with their handguns.