Russian ship stuck off UK coast has explosive power greater than Beirut blast
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- Опубликовано: 11 ноя 2024
- A damaged Russian cargo ship anchored off the UK coast poses a significat risk because of the “incredibly explosive" ammonium nitrate it is carrying, warns former CBRN commander Hamish De Bretton
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The ship sailed from Murmansk, Russia. Damaged soon after, and still not turned back to Murmansk... Instead, they want to port in different NATO harbors... Right! Not supiscious at all. "Nothing to see here, move along, move along"
If you were up to no good, clowning around appearing incompetent would be a very good way of disguising what you were really doing.
Do we know her name
It didn't sail from Murmansk, it sailed from Kandalaksha. It could have stopped in Murmansk as it was passing by, but it didn't.
They kinda sorta did something similar in one of the original modern warfare games 😂
But nothing happened, you im becile😅😅
We're Ruled By Fools and Fooled By Rules
speak for yourself
@@Ickie71 lol, i was about type that !! :)
From the UK obvs?
Although - that could apply to much of Europe.
@@alan.richardI think he’s on about the whole world
The ship is no threat, there is no scary story here. You are being reported to by fools.
If you know what's on the ship and how. Why did you let the ship come so close to the UK If you knew it was dangerous
They were going to sink it but.lol
Fertiliser
Cause our navy is busy at the south of England helping "refugees" get into the country
As long as it's in international waters, it has a right to be there. Same as US warships going into the South China Sea. China claims that as their territorial waters, but everyone else treats it as international waters and sail through there anyway.
@@charlieleedham5265stop the horseshit. If you know you know.
Ok I have just checked on my ship finder app, and this ship is still off the South East coast North East of Margate level with the Thames Estuary, at anchor. I do not blame any port not wanting it there, but, what we need to be extremely worried about is this ship's location. If it were to explode, and there is no evidence that it would as yet, it would be on a scale which we have never seen before, I would think it would cause a huge aftershock and tidal wave. Worryingly, further up the Thames Estuary we have the sunken wreck of the US flagged SS Richard Montgomery which just happens to have 1,400 tons of very unstable ordnance rotting in its hold. If this were to explode on its own it would throw a 300 metre column of water 3000 metres into the air, and cause a wave some 5 metres high,
It was considered too unstable to risk removing the ordnance, which has been there since August 1944, adjacent to this ship we have the oil and gas plants in Sheerness. I do not need to tell you how this unstable wreck could possibly explode if battered by a huge wave travelling up the Thames, triggered by an explosion on the MV Ruby.
Forgive me for not trusting anything the Russians, are involved in, but we are hardly on Putins Christmas list, and maybe this is just part of his plan to attack the UK, and blame it on an unfortunate accident. This ship needs to be towed back to Russia, and left for them to deal with, there also needs to be restrictions as to what ships can carry through the English channel, especially close to our nuclear power station at Dungeness, which is also reasonably close to this ship.
Excellent post. Your absolutely spot on. I wld think along the same lines as u. And I wld not hesitate to ensure it was sent back to Russia. But who wld do that and how safe wld it b for the crew?
I'm worried for ur people and infrastructure. Putin is NOT to be trusted.
Look up the 1917 Halifax explosion as a reference...appalling but not a World ender.
What was this ship doing in the English anyway . In my opinion ,Putin is psychopathic and capable of doing most anything . Isn't he known for creating unfortunate accidents as one of his ways to attack his opponents?
Thank you so much for your detailed report. It's not UK's responsibility to return the Ship although it could be pulled into the middle of nowhere and blown up. Hamas was seen visiting Putin a few times. Putin stole Ukraine's grain and delivered it to Turkey. At the same time China stocked up on grain. Putin said he would take the Gazan people. If you tube have reported correctly. There is a petition for UK to take the Gazan children. I believe this is an intmidation tactic to continue restrictions on weapons license's to Israel. We officially support Israel but restrict their weapons!??? We need to petition against restrictions of weapons to Israel and give them as much support as possible. We are on the verge of WW3 anyway. Our enemies have been planning for it because they all hate Western democracy.
Any where near the sunken USS Montgomery near the Thames estuary that would devastate London if it was 'disturbed' ?
The guy speaking at the start needs to revisit his relationship between tons and kilotons.
The ship would *NOT* explode with the force of twenty thousand kilotons (20 megatons).
Did nobody at the channel have the gumption to spot this?
The threat is clear. Simply a message.
Even if toothless, you do not want to be bitten by a toothless tiger.
Maths is maths
Non event please guys get a reporter who knows what this situation is 😅😅
The cargo has no buyer. Never had. It left Russia with no where to go. Nothing at all suspicious about it.
nice sarcasm lol
how do you know the cargo has no buyer?
100%
you seem to know it all but dont.
Maybe remote controlled from space?
It's not "stuck", it has been anchored there deliberately.
It's also very close to, if not directly over, two undersea electric connectors between the UK and Europe. These two currently provide ~6.5% of UK electricity.
Is it a Putin payback for hus Nordstream gas pipelines being destroyed?
Proof?
@@nickhumphries6220 Well, it didn’t drift to that spot and it’s lying at anchor so how much “proof” do you need, exactly?
@@twoeggcups Still not proof. The best spot for the UK is off the coast at Easington where all the gas comes in. Oops did I just give away a state secret. Maybe off Scotland where all the oil comes in. Oops another secret. Get real. Parking a damaged boat bound for Malta (I think it was) is normal. I suppose you would be happier parking it off the coast of France, maybe Holland. Hold on did I not read somewhere it's rudder is damaged? That would explain why it has not sailed up the Thames yet.
@@nickhumphries6220 Ruby is anchored just outside the Thames estuary. What if she set sail for central London?
Ooooops my floating bomb accidentally broke down in the most inconvenient spot,,,,soooo sorry.
Timothy McVeigh knocked down Oklahoma City Federal Bldg. with a mere van of ammonia nitrate....so multiply that blast by 500-1000 X ammonia nitrate volume....could get real messy !
What’s the deal with you guys and your commas? Never could figure out why people do that. You are obviously not spending quality time curled up with your Strunk and White’s “Elements of Style” guide…
You mean twenty kilotons, not twenty thousand kilotons.
@@warbuzzard7167 i assume it has to do with comma being one pixel off a period in the tiny kb ui
In the worst possible place at the worst possible time! This stunt by the runt of Russia has his fingerprints all over it. It should be returned to the sender...with interest .
Threatened us now all off a sudden we have basically a bomb on our shores 7 times greater than beruit, have a feeling somethings about to go down
better get proactive and stop talking about it.. apparently your lives depend upon it.
20,000 kilotons? Thats a 20 megaton blast . That ship couldn't carry enough conventional explosives to create a blast like that
I'm glad I'm not the only one that listens to the guy's statement did the math in his head and said that ain't quite right
Ask the Ukranians to help: they're VERY good at making russian ships go 'away'.
@@gdutfulkbhh7537 damn spat my coffee everywhere on reading..
❤️🇬🇧
@@gdutfulkbhh7537 you win the Internet today with that comment 🏆
Yeah but maybe not fire warheads at this ship?
@@martynlewis9020 Logic is lost here
He said 20,000 kilotons which would be 20 megatons.
"Experts" shouldn't be making mistakes like that.
That can't be correct anyway. You would need a nuclear device for that sort of yield.
@@ZigSputnik or literally 20 million tons of TNT, far beyond the capacity of the largest cargo ship.
@@jul1440 the capacity of a large FLEET of cargo ships. A thousand cargo ships.
No such this as expert .more like activists
@@danielbliss1988 At least 100 of the largest!
Total immersion in salt water should fix it !
And how would you convince this vessel to sink ?
Sooooo your genius idea is to poison the water with a hazardous and toxic substance?! Does it hurt when you think?! Idiot!
@@texasslingleadsomtingwong8751 It IS possible to punch holes in ships without explosives, you know.
@@SA12Stringwithout sparks?
@@SariClark-z9j Yeah...its called "below the water line"...GET IT!!
I worry we are assuming too much. We also assumed Russia would not invade Ukraine..
Only morons assumed that. They proved, repeatedly, that they don't honour treaties.
They invaded Chechnya, twice. Georgia. A false flag invasion of Ukraine's east, annexation of Crimea.
Only the kind of slack-jaws who thought selling out Czechoslovakia in 1938, think doing the same to Ukraine will mean
pEaCe In OuR tImE
This time.
This guy is full of it. BS that is.
Do you know why Putin invaded Ukraine?
Who's "we". The invasion of Ukraine was seen coming from miles away.
Me who lives in Margate and can see the ship out of my bedroom window at any time 😅 0:01
Not 20,000 kilotons of TNT... the standard explosive. 20 kilotons of a low grade explosive .... ammonium nitrate. The same thing that leveled Beirut's docks, but not a high explosive.
Mixed with TNT, as an extender, it makes 'Amatol'. This was regularly used in underground mines below German lines and as filler for artillery shells during WW1 because they couldn't make enough TNT. Also regularly used mixed with diesel as a mining explosive. It's good enough to level a portion of Beirut. This is quite a lot more.
@@highjump81a But...... the relatively pure am. nitrate is not nearly as potent an explosive as TNT, pound for pound. You can also mix aluminum powder with it and get a spicier mix..... Tannerite.
You beat me to it. 👌
What would happen if there was 10K of TNT in the middle of the Ammonium Nitrate and it was set off. .???
Ammonium Nitrate 100% is a High Explosive.
If this explodes it should be considered an act of war.
Stop watching the news
@@grahamd8356 another Vatnik bot
Just its precence is an act of war
Er hello, we are at war, proxy war, grow up
@@grahamd8356c'mon 🤡 we can but you can't? 🤣 Sure sounds like you're not coping well with the special military failure 🤡
Imagine being the crew on that ship. Holy sheeet!
I bet they are itching for a smoke 🚬
I think that smoke leads directly to their end... You were talking about the Russian missiles on standby...
@@jamesdykes517 I don't know what you mean. Your translation from ruzzki is not good, Ivan.
They must be suicidal.
@@artfx9 oh I get it. I mean they are clearly on a suicide mission and a cigarette blowing them up isn't what the what they're stressed about. It's the being the guidance on a bomb. Poor unfortunate fools trapped by Putin's greed.
Sorry you didn't understand my point. I did make it a bit obscure.
If it’s Russian they probably still smoking 😂😅
Get your facts straight. More bs from British press.
People are missing the point completely here. The UK has to import all of its artificial fertiliser now and much of it comes from Russia and Ukraine.
Ironically, the last UK fertiliser factory was in the process of closing down just as Russia invaded Ukraine. The government had the opportunity to put together a rescue package (which wouldn't have cost all that much) and failed to lift a finger. The upshot was a quadrupling in the price of artificial fertiliser which has had a knock-on effect on the economic viability of arable farms and has helped to stimulate and maintain food inflation.
I would like to know what artificial fertiliser is?? Why is it called artificial? Is it made from real nutrients?
Synthetically created as opposed to natural extraction usually things like nitrogen and potassium are by products of industrial processes and just relabelled as nutrients!
It extends into our food chain also, which is a big debate, are Synthetically produced nutrients as nutritious as naturally extracted, and I would wager no way.
@@MrTryReasoning It's made from hydrocarbons, typically 'natural gas'/methane. Fertilizer is typically made from products that are a side feed from a large refinery, especially when they have no consumers for the light fractions.
It's about time someone spoke up about this
Well said !
We shouldn’t be buying anything from friggin’ Russia
Consider this - russia is a country that wants to be seen as a superpower and yet they are reduced to basically the same tactics as the unabomber.
@@TimothyCollins classic..
🤣🤣🤣🪦 Deceased
XD
Do you know anything about the unabomber? This is the tactic McVeigh used, not the unabomber.
Russia is a terrorist state.
EDITED - This is the one that was stuck in between Sweden and Denmark that was due to go to Lithuania for servicing. Lithuania denied it entry due to the cargo. Wouldn't surprise me if it had exploded by accident while in the port. What a way to take resources from Ukraine?
I think it’s the same one. Denmark refused to allow it entry.
Is that the same one off the Norwegian coast?
Maybe Russian is just temporary fishing
@@lifessogood2995 with a 20kt grenade 😆
@@nickhtk6285 yes it is.
We just had that ship in Norway. Typical Russia.
They asked for permission to park it in our harbor in Klaipeda, Lithuania a couple weeks ago, when Norway didn't accept them. The whole story doesn't make any sense, if they can cross the whole North and Baltic seas to reach our port, why can't they go back to their own harbor? Something is really fishy about this whole thing.
@v1das007 Sveiki,
Niekada nenustebkite, jei Putinas nesukurs tikslingos problemos, o paskui bus tas, kuris bandys ją išspręsti visos žmonijos labui.
@@v1das007 They did not ask for permission to park it in Lithuania. The ship left the Russian port near Murmansk headed for Lithuania on the way it had an accident and stopped at the Norwegian port of Tromso. The Norwegians inspected it at the port of Tromso and certified it fit to sail along with a tug, when it reached its original destination of Lithuania the authorities turned it back for "safety reasons". it is anchored off the coast of UK waiting to refuel.
@@michaelotieno6524 Our government says otherwise. I'm not sure where you are getting your info.
@@v1das007 Russian internet troll spreading misinformation?
It’s miles away and packed in different storage compartments these ships have been going around the world for years stop been dramatic it won’t blow up if it does there will be a big splash miles from us it’s not in our port
Exactly.
I believe that this is not a coincidence. UK needs to take precautions.
If the UK Gov is that worried get it away from UK waters by getting tug boats on it .
At the tug boat union hall:
“I need a volunteer”
Not this Government?
Tow it back to Port of St. Petersburg harbour.
Putin should handle this. This vessel clearly needs to return to Russia.
The UK government has no skill in turning away boats.
It is now floating three kilometres outside British waters north of Margate, east of the Thames Estuary, seemingly awaiting permission to enter the Strait of Dover .. in case you are wondering
thanks. so that's outside the 12 nm limit? but within the EEZ. seems like they could find a good reason to seize based on pollution threat.
There's a sunken ammunition ship from the 2ndww, also off the north Kent coast. Maybe they're that one safe by now.
Putin has already said that if stormshaow missiles are used to attack inside Russia then he will use hypersonic missiles and we can say good by too London he isn't bluffing we nearly got newclear Inialated 2 weeks ago
@@peterlaurie1247
"The SS Richard Montgomery, a World War II American Liberty cargo ship, is a sunken wreck in the Thames Estuary that contains approximately 1,400 tons of explosives. The ship's cargo included:
286 high explosive bombs weighing 910 kg each
4,439 bombs weighing 450 kg each
1,925 bombs weighing 230 kg each
2,815 fragmentation bombs and bomb clusters
Explosive booster charges
Phosphorus bombs
Smoke bombs
Pyrotechnic signals
The ship sank in August 1944 after grounding on the Nore sandbank, near Sheerness, Kent, England. Salvage efforts were made immediately, but the ship sank before they could be completed.
The wreck's condition is monitored regularly by the Maritime and Coastguard Agency (MCA). The MCA considers the risk of a major explosion to be remote, but they still monitor the site to ensure any changes are discovered quickly.
Some experts believe that the authorities should try to remove the explosives, but the work would be expensive and would need to be done with great care. The ship's structure is deteriorating rapidly, and in the worst case scenario, the explosion could cause a minor tsunami-like event. "
Starmer will ok it he hates ENGLAND
It’s Halifax once more.
As a retired firefighter who has studied that incident, I thought I was the only one who would remember it.
Thats Canada Halifax?
If so solid reference
I was thinking the same
@@northleedspoppa yes the mont blanc
Just what I was thinking. For those who haven't read about it, a ship carrying explosives/munitions for war, annoyed at being delayed by submarine nets, collided with another ship because a ship was on the wrong side and exploded, causing great destruction.
Always good to hear Hamish De Bretton's expertise on this subject :)
Unless it's inside a harbor or beached next to a coastal city it's not as bad as it sounds.
A surface detonation on water of 20 kt according to nukemap: heavy blast damage radius: 590 meters, moderate dmg radius: 1.24km, light dmg radius: 3.2 km.
As long as you can keep them 4km or more from the coast, it'll just be a light show in the distance and not one window will break in the UK if it blows. Just don't let it get closer than that to anyone.
Pardon. Can you repeat that please.😁
20,000 tons is 20 kilotons, not 20,000 kilotons. (as is stated twice in this film) On the water, 20 kilotons is of concern but if 7-10 miles distant, I'd not expect this to be a problem beyond breaking windows and some wave damage ashore. Although ammonium sulphate is dangerous, especially in hot weather, I would not expect it detonate unless it was old, hot, and ill-stored.
We cant stop rubber boats
Not true, we can, it's just that we have not had and do not have a government willing to do so. 👍
@@ginojaco so true buddy
+10 for deflection. It's immigrants, not Russia threatening to blow up Britain
@@zulubeatz1 Yes, but that's only because Russia knows it hasn't good enough tech to manage the job...
Yeah because they are carrying 20,000 tonnes of ammonium nitrate on a rubber boat.... 🤣 Anything to draw attention away from the topic....
I think he meant 20 kilo tons not 20,000 kilo tons which would be 20 mega tons.
^^ Definitely. 20 megatons would be almost half tsar bomba.
Experts hey?
@@abofrey You don’t need to be an expert to know what the prefixes kilo and mega mean. 😃
@@abofreygod forbid someone slips while speaking. 20 kilo or megatons of explosives is still dangerous. 🙄
This "expert" isn't. TNT and Am nitrate are not equivalent by weight.
Good grief, *Times Radio,* the *_first 15 seconds_* of this video is innumerate nonsense.
0:01 _"we've now got a boat, a ship, which apparently is in a very poor state, with 20,000 tons_ [of ammonium nitrate fertilizer]. If that explodes it will explode with the power of 20,000 kilotons of conventional explosive.."_
20,000 ton = 20 kilotons, not 20,000 kilotons.
Even if it did, the blast radius would barely reach the shore!
yeah that would be 20 megatons he probably mispoke but maybe not who know with these fearmongers endlessly ramping things up...
Not worried 😯 im in Yorkshire
Thank ncdave... very observant.... l would say more than that.... you are bloody smart !!!! Whoooppeee
What's a few zeros among friends.
Js..its on water, the danger would be the repercussion radius and "shrapnel " there would be an issue with the behavior of the water coming ashore after detonation
Timing's about right as Zelenski asks for long range storm shadow to be used inside Russia.
The sailers on board must be under some considerable stress.
I bet their queuing for the toilet onboard that ship..
Gagging for a cigarette
Careful with that Doobie!
Its Russians, they smoking next to the stuff .
they all are Syrians, allies of Russians
It’s too close to the wreck off the Montgomery with that amount of potential explosive material onboard.
My first thought. "Accidentally" drift into that, bad day.
There's the whole of Kent in the way. As long as it's kept out of the Thames estuary there's no chance of an explosion on one setting off the other.
What are you talking about? It's about 35 miles from the wreck of the SS Richard Montgomery.
@@beeble2003 I was thinking of an underwater shockwave or if they bring it in closer for refuelling/ unloading. I don’t know if that will happen now since it’s been a few days but I still think my concern was justifiable.
Thank you Mr. Hamish for the insights!
20 Kilotonnes, not 20 Megatons.
Tow it back to Russia.
Gotta find people to work the tug boats. I imagine no volunteers.
maybe ask a migrant boat if they could help you with that
@@annaoeste2470
Ukraine`s sea drones could tow it back to a russian port
@@mastermindvideos898 Yes, either Iran or China since they are helping Russia, I'm sure they wouldn't mind
@@annaoeste2470 Long, very long tow lines?
Ship problem are emblem of Russia problems: Poverty of ppl. Corruptions. But most of all poverty
@boota1989 In Russia standard-of-life is lower than Peru. This is why.
@@dpelpala lot of problems in Russia 🥶
@@jsaintr.i.r4018 Yes Sir, that is mild way of putting things🤷🏼♀️
Well you should care about your own country vast majority of people in UK cant afford simple living at the moment. So standard of liv8ng in your country is probably lower than RUSSIA because you dont have any sanctions 😂😂😂😂
@@dpelpalYou have no idea... Russia debt gdp ratio is the lowest ! 18%
Compare it with other countrys.. ever been to Russia ?
Send that ship back now rite now we dont want any putin ships in our warters simple
waters
right now -- don't want - see above
It's a trap. Putin is going to wipe us out.
Who's "We" you and your overweight mother, sitting on the couch eating TV diners!?😆
it's "Broken Down"
Beirut - - On 4 August 2020, a large amount of ammonium nitrate stored at the Port of Beirut in the capital city of Lebanon exploded, causing at least 218 deaths, 7,000 injuries, and US$15 billion in property damage, as well as leaving an estimated 300,000 people homeless.
And this ship is carrying over 7 times as much.
well done Labour government....the Royal Fleet Auxiliary used to help out the Royal Navy in this situation...but they are now on strike....outstanding management by the MOD eh
@@yeoman223 why are they on strike?
This must be the escalation everyone was afraid of. Time to give Ukraine the gloves-off signal.
Don't be ridiculous.
Ye. Because we really need to escalate this
только идиоты паникуют от каждого "сенсационного" сообщения из телевизора.
большая посылка у твоих дверей?
а где ей следует быть если её заказали в британию? её надо было отвезти в африку?!
теледиктору платят большие деньги чтоб по другую сторону телевизора люди со слабыми мозгами требовали отдать больше полномочий ворам в парламенте.
There is no legitimate reason for a ship to be sailing around with that kind of dangerous cargo on it. This is a potential article 5 moment!
Putin may have sent this ship - fall short of nuclear weapons use - but has enough power to have the same effect.
@@ykst6685and of course it would release the taps giving long range weapons to Ukraine.
Fertiliser ships are extremely normal, it is legitimate to cargo fertiliser around
Article 5 would be judgment day
Article 5 doesn't apply to Great Britain because they have preemptively attacked Russia with storm shadow missiles.
Perhaps it's worth reminding the frothier characters that the ship is in international waters, and last I looked was around 26 miles off the British coast. She'd have to be carrying a nuke for any explosion to impact the UK from that distance.
Actually it's anchored 18 miles from Margate and 16 miles from the coast, it's exact position is: 51.51451151937695, 1.75197601318359
@@fins59 Thank you, and yes you're quite right. But (a) she's still in international waters and (b) she'd still need to carry a nuke to cause damage to the UK mainland. This is just the tory press, as always, trying to turn every little thing into a stick to beat Labour over the head with.
iam upset as an American we dont come in and stick up for the UK against Russia
According to AIS Ruby is sitting 30Km off the coast of Margate. That is not close. If the AIS goes off and because it would have to be physically turned off deliberately and it was done at dusk and the thing starts to head up the Thames with only other ships and radar to confirm its position then start to worry.
How to recognize propaganda:
1) When given a problem, fear rather than reason is used to present the solution.
2) When you're pressured into accepting the solution.
3) When you're not allowed to question the solution.
4) When the solution involves surrendering your freedoms.
5) When your eyes see one thing, but you are compelled to believe a different thing.
6) When the solution means giving small groups of people control over larger and larger things.
7) When dissenters are censored for refusing to accept the solution.
8) When dissenters are targeted by accusations from different sources, suddenly and all at once.
Sounds like the avg day for any Brit who wants control of England's borders
Or, just look at the source... If it's Russian, it's lies.
@@bivvystridents3752 denied. Russia is living evidence of its righteousness. They are not wrong.
Exactly what Dubya did to give himself more power after the 9/11 attacks.
@@Deadlycalling Does it? You don't sound British, you sound like a total w⚓.
Please don't underestimate Russia and its capabilities. Don't become a Target. Be safe.
..too late...not possible the World HAS NEVER BEEN A SAFE PLACE....MORONS!
If it's Times Radio you know there is nothing to worry about.
ты стоишь раскрытым
ты стоишь раскрытым
@@zaphoddog3878 You mean the UK is wide open? Yes, I agree, but I was making the point that Times Radio is propagandising.
I've told him forty million times to quit exaggerating! "Fertilizer" is not configured with accelerant to make 'pearl' and even then pearl (bulk mining explosive)takes dynamite to set it off.
Great interview, and wise answers and explanations. Much appreciated.
Stop moaning. Sease the boat gives the fertiliser to Jeremy Clarkson for Diddly Squat farm. Job done.
Given Jeremy's love of blowing things up - maybe not the best idea .
Theirs already a US munitions ship that sank during WW2 in the Thames estuary that is fully laden and could potentially go off with the power of a small nuke.
Shhh don't tell the russian spys on this comment section,, your no james bond !!!
Probably why the Russian ship is/wants to be close to the sunken ship and then go "it wasn't us!, it was the other ship that went off while we were passing by!".
@@super_happy_alien509 you're not English are you.
It’s in the Medway not far from Chatham docks.
@@jimjoelliejack Just outside of the Medway. I've sailed past it, the SS Richard Montgomery.
It should not be allowed at all
the amount of nuclear weapons in american submarines is more shocking then anything the north sea is full of it
the only boat that has been stopped in the channel in the last decade.
Largest Conventional explosion on earth wasnt beirut. Not by a long shot. Beirut explosion was 0.2kt equivalent. Nowhere near the Halifax explosion (1917, 2.9kt) which is still, to this day, the largest accidental, man made, non nuclear explosion in history.
Edit: Also, ammonium nitrate isnt a 1:1 with tnt. its about 45%. so 20000 tons of ammonium nitrate is a 9kt equivalent not a 20kt equivalent.
Also the Fauld disaster in Staffordshire during ww2
Messing up up Earth
What, Nitrogen fertilizer that has fed the World.
Fertilizer we cant make any more because our power is massively overpriced.
Underestimating Putin is this guys first mistake, he should freshen up on his Math too.
Very interesting the Navy must get this under control and stop these huge risks ASAP
20000 ton of Ammoniumnitrate do not have the explosive power of the same amount of conventional explosives (referred on TNT): in Beirut exploded an estimated amount of 4,5 kT NH4NO3, which gave a "yield" of ca. 800-1000 tons of TNT. The conversion factor is therefore roughly 5:1. 4000 tons TNT is still a huge blast, if detonated.
But doesn't the UK have a very capable Navy? Sink the bucket in a save distance from land by some torpedoes. Ammoniumnitrate is very good soluble into water.
No, no. It is commercial property. You suggest to attack a ship in neutral waters? What is about international waters 🤣? Like UK says NATO is not a threat, neither NO threat from Ammoniumnitrate as per words of course.
@P00009 Ivan you need to improve your English.
Hello Alge bloom
@@radicallyrethinkingrailwaysina I had no idea railway engineers were also grammar experts. I’ll keep that in mind for my next vocabulary test!
@@P00009 What are you trying to say? If this vessel poses a threat to a nearby city and it's people on land, the UK has any right to dispose it safely. Force majeure...
Set of by "a firework"?
It was a warehouse full!
Seem to remember it was some idiot doing welding repairs on the storage silo.
In small amount it burns like a cigar. Even if you mix it with fuel oil it will just not detonate without a primer (think stick of dynamite); blasting cap won't work. But with tons to kilotons it becomes self-confining; it burns like a cigar, but there's no where for the heat to go but to heat the surrounding material, eventually it is burning fast enough that the pressure and heat can't escape fast enough it just runs away towards a full on detonation. The problem is just the amount; in a 50 kg bag it is a safe chemical that might at worst accelerate a fire.
@soylentgreenb a fire broken out in the warehouse. Fireworks as well as the Ammonium Nitrate which had been sitting too long. It was removed from an old Russian ship that was not allowed to sail. The Ammonia was off loaded and apparently forgotten about.
@@mrb.5610 The blame of the welders is still pretty unreasonable. Lots of experts deny the welders were at fault. Who knows? The only people clearly to blame were the government at the time, who has resigned, and the port authority, who just ignored the problem until it essentially removed the port from existence in less than a second. Still, no one is being held responsible. Criminal charges against those most closely involved were dropped. Corruption is rampant in the government...ALL governments, everywhere.
@@andrewbalfour7130 It wasn't thousands of tonnes of fireworks that exploded. Nor was it ammonia. Nor were fireworks required to set off the ammonium nitrate detonation. It was thousands of tonnes of ammonium nitrate that detonated due to an uncontrolled fire. Nothing more than an uncontrolled fire is required to detonate ammonium nitrate if you have sufficient amounts in a pile and it's all on fire. It becomes self-confining.
If you burn ammonium nitrate in kg amounts it will smoulder like a cigar. Nothing terrible will happen. It's the amount; what you know from bench scale doesn't transfer to thousands-of-tonnes scale.
Flash powder is an excellent analogy on a small scale. A fraction of a gram loose flash will just go "FWWOOFF" with a bright flash. A few grams in a pile might detonate if it is a sufficiently good preparation and formula. Hundreds of grams *will* detonate. But if you confine it even poorly in a cardboard tube it now will detonate even in small quantities like hundreds of mg. This is the main reason people lose fingers messing with this stuff. What's safe in 100 mg amounts becomes drastically unsafe with 20 grams in a glass beaker.
WHY are ships allowed to carry that amount?
It's Russia. They have no regards for safety or common sense.
well google how much fertiliser Britain imports every year 😂..... how old are you ?
It's Russia your dealing with
Because clearly industry can do so safely.
@@zakjuly6721 Be Nice!
And who would move the ship? If its potentially dangerous, why not move it immediately? Think those residents in that area of a potential explosion must be very worried indeed.
Needs to be borders and seized
He is wrong. 20 000 tones amonium nitrate doesn't explode with force of 20kt of TNT. Relative effectivenss of amonium nitrate is 0.32 so 20000000kg * 0.32 = 6400000 so 6.4KT of TNT. LITTLE BOY was 12 to 14 kilotonnes in hiroshima.
I wouldn't be sticking around in Margate until its gone. It's probably as straightforward as it seems but you can't be 100% sure.
If you in the UK stay away from major cities
Great....I live in Margate 😢
@GLENLYNAS I'm sure it'll be fine but no harm in making sure your will is up to date.
@@wingzero7316😂 sure thing comrade lol
Damaged before Murmansk ,sailed past . Tugs tow it back to Russia. Park it in a russian harbour
Don;t forget the Montgomery sunk near to the isle of Sheppy...loads of explosives on it.
The Beirut blast was 1 kilotonne TNT equivalent from 2,500t of NH4NO3. A 20,000 kilotonnes TNT equivalent explosion from 20,000 tonnes of NH4NO3 is impossible. The biggest nuclear explosion ever produced was about 20,000 kilotonnes. I think he means 10 kilotonnes, which is about 10 times greater than the Beirut blast.
It’s fertiliser to help britain grow vegetables - or don’t they need that now ? 🙄
Not just vegetables 😉
Except no one in th UK ordered it lol
A maltese ship carrying fertilizer is probably just that. I don't know the while story behind this ship however, the Maltese people would NEVER harm UK! It's nonsense imo
The Uk milking it for every last drop of political leverage and anti- Russian propaganda. Pathetic way to carry on.
That was my question.
please remember we do not turn away uninvited guests. Give the crew citizenship and store their ship with the other dinghys.
So.. The fertiliser we need is an issue?
0:09: Hamish De Bretton overestimates the explosive power of 20 kilotons of ammonium nitrate by a factor of about 4000
The ship is said to carry 20 kilotons of ammonium nitrate, which is equivalent (in explosive power) to 5 kilotons of TNT
It's either 20,000 tonnes, or 20 kilotonnes, not 20,000 kilotonnes... I'm sure if there was 20 MEGATONNES of explosives off the coast of Kent, we'd be a LOT more upset.
That will stop the dinghies wont it
it is the most successful effort to stop/block the dinghies, why didn't UK think of that - surround the coast with boats.
They will pick up supplies on the way.
i wish people would stop say NUCULAR when they mean NUCLEAR
It's nuts, isn't it?
dislexia is a common ailment
Nakoolar
Stop saying "stop say". However, grammar and pronunciation aren't really the issue at hand are they?
@@JC-jv5xw not nuts, it's nukes
very strange why that's hanging about near us !! 😮
Because Russia is poverty country, does not have a standards. I know, I live here
@@dpelpalSo is the UK and we're wasting money that we need by sending it to the Ukraine. We're also annoying Mr Putin which is something which most people don't support but our treasonous government is not following the requests of the people. This is not our war.
Strange but no accident.
@@davec9399 Due to poverty. Low.standard of ship-maintenance if u know Russia ship
the Russian military has a way of being places they're not supposed to be, and I don't just mean Ukraine. Why should their unsupervised weapons be any different. You'd be shocked by how often the Canadian Navy and Air Force get buzzed by Russian jets in our air space or while in allied waters.
It's a sitting duck !
This needs to be taken very seriously, no treats are a mired treat, and ignoring it is a dangerous playing it down is too bad too
20 k tons of ammonium nitrate corresponds to 5 k tons TNT. Hiroshima bomb ”little boy” had 12.5 k tons TNT equvalent. So the bomb was 2.5 x stronger. The expert claims that the ship cargo is 2 x stronger, so he exaggerated for the factor of 5!
Please be objektive, we are not in ruzzia!
not sure if anyone noticed that he actually said "twenty thousand kilotons" when I assume he simply meant to say twenty kilotons - lol 20,000 kilotons would be 20,000,000 tons or 20 megatons, tsar bomb range 🤣
I notice this too. The expert also does not know how 'nuclear' is pronounced.
But, isn't ammonium nitrate only one part of an explosive?
Surely you need a fuel?
He said tactical nuke. Which are smaller yield than that
Besides he said it would explode with the power of 20 000 kilotons (0:07). Not 20 kilotons. How ammonium nitrate is supposed to have 1000 times the explosive yield of TNT is beyond me.
where was the royal navy? aren't they supposed to keep them away??!
This sounds as fake news. No country would let the vessel near coast or definitely not harbours, knewing its content.
The migrants have more chance of towing it away, they got more boats than us lol
It's not in UK waters, needs to be within three miles of our shores.
@@gee3883 Incorrect.....there are NO International waters in the English Channel. There are UK waters and there are French waters, the English Channel is almost unique in this respect. Any foreign registered ships using the English Channel do so in good faith.
@@JsJourney-nz7ci so its in UK waters?
Is this just scaremongering?
Yes, if Putin was really gonna use nuclear weapons, then he wouldn't be saying it. Also, he knows full well that there will be no more Russia if he does.
its Times Radio...what do you think?
1:52 "20,000 tons"
1:58 "It will explode with the power of 20,000 kt of conventional explosives" .
20,000 tons is only 20 kilo tons
Ammonium nitrate plus diesel fuel .. priceless 😅
Mispoke. Twenty thousand tons is not twenty thosuand kilotons. Twice mispoke. Twenty thousand tons is twenty kilotons.
yep that'd be 20M tons 😞
And 20kt of ammonium nitrate is in no way equivalent to 20kt of TNT.
No-one would dispute that Russia has pretty inadequate technology and maintenance regimes. However, we also have to acknowledge that recent missile launch tests from our Trident subs weren't a resounding success either. And not to leave Times Radio out of the equation, what's with the camera that constantly drifts in and out of focus? Technology, it would seem, is a problem for everyone.
@@magic_hotel got plenty of nukes though
@@davidmcconnell9330 Times Radio have nukes?!
@@davidmcconnell9330 Nukes aren't a number's game.
its called propaganda ffs
SLAVA RUSSIA,
How was this allowed so near the uk. This should never have happened. Whoes to blame for this.
I worry about all the fish.!
That would be some serious dynamite fishing
I worry about all the dinghies that cross the English channel illegally everyday 👀
@@KeepingTheFaith123you mean 'all' the dingies that cross the channel in your imagination
I don't think the fish have lighters or matches so we should be ok.
Times Radio I am disapointed in you. Why do you put people like this on. #1 he keeps saying 20,000 kilotons of explosive. he should be saying 20 kilotons or 20,000 tons. Also he keeps equating ammonium nitrate to TNT they are not equivalent in explosive power. Ammonium nitrate is about 40% equivalent to TNT.
and "nucular"
In Soviet Russia, ammonium nitrate go Big B000oom!
This is the "country" we're talking about making a deal with, right? The rf is the "country" that people are un-sarcastically talking about rewarding with Ukrainian territory.
Am I understanding that right?
you mean terroist state not 'country'
Biden basically sold Ukraine to Russia
It’s a ship full of fertiliser not grenades .
@muckle8 right. Because putin is a lying, manipulative coward. So, it's not TECHNICALLY a weapon...just a big ship that could blow up without russia facing the consequences (which they would not survive). "Shame if that type of "accident" happened so close to your shoreline..."
It's standard mafia/coward/scumbag tactics.
by 'we' your talking about trump and his loony toons circus right? In the alternate reality where he wins the election....?
Beirut explosion from 2020 was 2750 tonnes of ammonium nitrate. So basically 7 times that.
its only dangerous if there is oil also in the tanker. What powers the ship again?
There is an irritating bleating constantly coming from the UK...
Sounds like an Adolf Putler plot. None of this makes sense. Why is this ship even sailing around with that much AN on it even ??? How can this even be allowed anywhere on Earth ??? 😡😡😡
Adolf Putler actually wanted to be mates with the UK.
Ships with this much are traveling our oceans daily with no threat to anyone. Nuclear subs pose a greater threat if they blow up.