Mkhulu Nsingisa has the most scientific explanation of our origin, which our children need so much! Unfortunately the person who seems to be the youngest in the panel is doing his best to disrupt this valuable discussion. Wake up, Africa!
Amlak bored me here. there are things that i agree with him but his behaviour here of acting like a bigger brother bored me, coz i've seen Mkhulu speak and i know where he was going. since i started listening to this man i've never seen a white person as a medicine for a black person or a person who civilised a primitive black person anymore i gained confidence about blacks which most blacks don't have unfortunately.
Abba is amazing iyndukuzakhe zajovoza ukhuluma amaqiniso Amlak you're god of light Grand Master of Abakhaliphi bokukhanya ithunyiwe nyani they always don't understand ppl like you cz you are on another level that facts Camagu Silo Samanzi ebukhosini ❤
If you listener deeper he is diving into a deeper conversation, which requires selflessness to really understand. But our ego and entitlement doesn't allow that because its uncomfortable and vigorous. By understanding him we will evolve and adapt as people.
@palesar9541 - Based on my view, I would say. Abba did not make a self-central points on the conversation, he's just trying to outline the fact that the panel needs to have a conversation without mentioning the outsiders / outside race. He does not take away the fact that apartheid did play a huge role into our lives, but we cannot let apartheid define who we are. We cannot be define black history as the era of apartheid / use the color of our skin to define black history - I enjoyed this episode, It had great knowledgeable individuals who perceive life in a different way.
@@thapelomorare1484 bro we do get his view but we r not there..we first need to understand the origin bcs its the foundation of everything..u Rasta did not want that, why? Ryt now we r in this situation bcs of such.
That's actually where the education is because they each represent a potion of us out there so they can't be in agreement because we don't all agree out there hence black conversations 🤔
Despite the wisdom offered by figures such as Mkhulu Nsingiza and Thau-Thau, the pursuit of individual supremacy eclipsed the opportunity for a shared, enlightened outcome. This event serves as a poignant reminder that even brilliance requires the ballast of humility to achieve collective good.When individuals prioritize their own ideas over the greater good, collective intelligence suffers. Even wise people can be hindered by arrogance. True leadership requires a balance of personal vision and communal harmony.@Castle Milk Stout please give us part 2, there was more to be said than was was actually said
Abba is actually going deep to the essence of being human before being classified as a Race. The show is about learning "Black History" but brought to you by alcohol. We can all see what alcohol has done to the townships. Who are the target audience for this show!? We only waking up to sleep again as the black Nation but if we can start viewing reality as spiritual beings, we stop seeing races /economic class but start to experience God having a life experience. Umtu ngu mtu nga bantu!! Doesn't matter the race reason is I AM because you Are
Being a revisionist historians wont help our people. Careful not to apologize for a nation under attack. The last thing we need is to be whilte apologists. When the topic says black history lets talk about that with all it involves so our children know why they and us are in this position
@Nkazimulo-Madiba you are correct. I kinda felt that's the point he was driving home which I'm in total agreement with, I don't share the us and the rest sentiments of Thau Thau, they are divisive and untrue, we are all one consciousness, yes we all inhabit different bodies but that's not really who we are, we are not the body. Abba actually had a good point but because he interrupted everybody no one took him seriously
alcohol in your language is what came with creation so it aint vulgar ...instead of starting your own liqor distribution thing you think alcohol is bad....anyways mayivhuke iAlkebulan
I fully support Abba's perspective. I believe that the source of all life is God, the Universe, or however you may perceive this higher power. I see this source as the origin of all humanity, where we draw our strength and energy. While the atrocities of colonization were undeniably horrific and cannot be justified, it's time to elevate the conversation beyond race and focus on our shared humanity. Understanding who God says we are should give us, as Black people, all the pride and dignity we need. Our bodies may be different colors, but they are just containers for the spirit within. Let’s shift our focus from the history of these containers to the essence of who we truly are.
I do understand Abba's stand point, it doesn't make sense to debate Black and "Them" ngoba they're part of "Us". We need to remember that a great number of Black are not 100% Black anymore, and some of these White are Grandparents of these Grandchildren...Do we exclude the current Generation b'cos they are not 100% Black anymore? Great debate indeed...👏👏👏
Sbu u mist the post completely and they touched on it that, before we got mixed up with other races we were the original people. Lets go back that before the contamination of whiteness.
@fezilephungwayo343 and this is what a history is about! How can y talk current and say it history. We start from the original and come forth with it to get to this mix or hybrid...we not there yet...be patient
Love Love this episode,a panel with a wealth of knowledge,I see them as our African Library.👐,I wish we had Bab'Joshua Maponga / Bab,Ndabe Myeza in the panel as well...Looking foward to more..
I need a conversation with Abba! History is a map to the future! We can not talk about History and not talk about white Caucasian people, the 2 go together. What stood up for me is the closing from Baba Buntu❤
Abba is right the is one race which is human race n Kwakhaya lendaba the is a skeleton that represents the one race which is human race umkhonto ka Abba uyajovoza ❤
There is one race, however we must acknowledge that we are also defined by our identity, color of our skin, culture, art, customs, spirituality etc, not forgetting that the western nations caused huge suffering against this African continent, we shouldn't be afraid talking about that reality its a fact. We can't reconcile with others where else a black nation is still trapped under the oppression of the westerners & their systems & say we are one race, it cannot be.
@@nhlanhlakubeka3965What u shud ask yourself is since did we start being told about 1 race. And also ask yourself what ws being said b4 this 1 race story. Simply white ppl are trying to race their wrong after many years of race(ism).
@@kgotsochabangu9107HE DOES. HOWEVER, HE WAS NOT CONSIDERATE OF THE FACT THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT WATCH THIS SHOW DO NOT HAVE OR ARE NOT EXPOSED TO THE INFORMATION THAT LEAD TO HIS LEVEL OF INNERSTANDING THINGS. HENCE IT IS NECESSARY FOR AMAKHEHLA TO START AT THE BEGINNING AS MKHULU NSINGIZA INITIATED IT.
@@kgotsochabangu9107 He did however, was the conversation about the perspective of the whole? Now that's where he took a sharp curve and went completely off topic.
The subject of this conversation is “Black History” but Abba seems to think it’s about everyone else’s history. He also keeps interrupting other people.
But if ethi Mkhulu Nsingiza abelungu ingane zethu if skhuluma ngathi bazongena phela abelungu kanjani bangangeni so baba yingane zethu nini ekuqaleni or sekphilwa nje if babaqaleni so asibafake but if babengane sesvele sesikhona asingabafaki please ngvumelana nani
Saying "what does it mean to be black?.....nothing".....after what BLACK PEOPLE ESPECIALLY went through,and are still going through to this day just because of skin colour is thee most bullsht statement i have ever heard.
...yes that is the reality; no one person is the holder of all knowledge. Each one studies, researches and brings their own cultural and life experiences, and understandings to the discussion.🌅
abba ayalew is lost he is comparing Morena Moshoeshoe to stalin 😂. He is telling us about humanity but let him go to orania and let see if they will let him in and stay. I agree the with the older gentleman who are disagreeing with him
@@SiyandaHadebe-cv5sx akere yena o bua ka humanity jwale kere yena a tsamaya aye ko orania ayo dula teng re sheba na hore o tla thola humanity. Ntho engwe orania e Afrika hare latelle makgowa hobane makgowa atswa europe. Hare batle makgowa batlo nka lefatshe ba le etse la bona
not really but there's some misinformation we can correct about melanin. the kings issue is a very deep one because even the people we call kings today are serving the republics. so there's no kingdom bigger than the british they're still rulling us to date. that one can be a whole topic on its own
@@lebogangmoalusi4749 we cant disown ourselves in moving forward to make a certain people feel comfortable. So we must erase our history in order to forward, the show was about black conversations, black history and to teach young ones that yes we too were great even though they dont teach you that at school? Funny that the people you lot are fighting for so much to feel comfortablr at our expense dont rate you nor do they think you are better than. No one would ever tell jews for example to not talk about their pain because its now 2024 but lona clever ones want that of a black child.
History helps with understanding how you're experiencing the present. History cannot be nitpicked to suit your understanding and your current lifes experience, and the source of that history will curate your understanding. That then serves as a compas to your future hopes. A much needed conversation, which shouldn't have turned into a debate (unless thats the premise of the show). All perspectives are valid to a degree and hold relevance at different weights though one should be able to stand besides their thoughts and observe them as they develop and dismantle as the engage with other peoples thoughts. Can't change the truth, but you can always tell a story.
Abba Setswana se re ngwana wa tlhogo e 'golo o sira Rrage. Setswana sere susu ilela suswana gore suswana a go ilele. Mkhulu o saya le Ditaola Badimong. Pula! A ene!
This could've been better. There was a lot potential for more insight to be shared but time was wasted on misunderstandings that i expected the panel to handle better.
Let's just be thankful for the coming together and direction focused communication taking place.. good wise men in our society siting and discussing our collective reality That alone speaks volumes on how we could utilise the tools we have at our disposal 🤞🏾
The beauty of "Blackness" is understanding that everyone was right in their point and everyone was wrong in trying to make the point as well. we still have a long way to go Family, lets keep on walking .....
Thanks to Abba that was a complete waste of time. He has no respect for anyone else, now which is sad to watch. Lol they 🖐🏻got to him somehow and now dude cant allow others talk about themselves without including his GNU. They couldnt even talk about black people without a push back from him to be gnu friendly for his 🖐🏻😂
This was such an interesting information conversation,Abba just ruined it,he has the tendency of wanting to dominate and act like he knows it all,he does this a lot I've noticed even in his podcast,it's unfortunate really....but thank you to the rest for a great contribution,our children need to hear this knowledge...Camagu
Abba Ayalew Amlak his intellectual is on another level he can stand his truth and he understands that we are not body but we are souls abo baba abadala are still oppressed n basa riser but they are deciding the central point Abba is always been misunderstood cz he is on another level so ungawatotosi amakhehla😂 just cz the truth hurts u Silo Samanzi uzinyo lengwenya khalipha Mkhali ❤
Yeah guys like you who are still new in this teachings You must meet mkhulu but at the end you will need Abba to finish up your journey after digging deep and found we are all one
We definitely need part 2. I know maybe this is all about conversations, but I think we should have questions where each answer based on their own understanding, because this topic is very sensitive and personal.
Thank you Abba, people have put a colonial stamp to the black skin, we will even forget who we are as human. Humanity is a bigger concept than culture and not most people are ready to discuss, because it requires one to be selfless and forget about skin, culture, tradition and personal value
Well in my own opinion the conversation became personal,Abba looked at the chair as a point of making and sticking to making his point n it distracted the importance of the massage to those who have no idea or clueless,I think he became selfish
What a waste of time.. I wish to meet uMkhulu Nsingiza one day.. Greatest wish of mine coz he is my humbler, got me out of a trouble I thought was never to be solved.. Thank you Mkhulu.. I hope to see you one day 🙏
Abba o jampisa bo ngwana youthfulness. He does not listen and wants to control the conversation with elders by shouting. He is used to being listened to alone.
Abba contributed nothing to this conversation yet opposed almost every view from other panel members! As such, I missed out on an incredible opportunity learn more about myself.
Great debate indeed.👏👏👏 The time given was extremely too short. It will be appreciated if Part 2 can be arranged, of course with more knowledgeable Participants (to add kulaba abakhona) who will be able to present their understanding from different tested sources. Structured Agenda of the debate to be agreed upon. Bese ziyasha, Azisheee....😂 I can't wait.😂😂😂
Abba is my representation in this conversation. It's so unfortunate how these conversations are conceptualised in the minds of people. If we all have the same origin as a species then what does it matter who is black or white? We're all black in some shape or form. By relegating this conversation to identity we miss out on the opportunity to highlight the massive achievements of the human being.
WHERE YOU ASKED: "why does it matter if you are black or white?" BECAUSE WHITE IS A GENETIC MODIFICATION OF THE ORIGINAL OR, AS THEY PUT IT, MUTATION. READ THE BOOK: BLACKROOTS SCIENCE ON THIS SUBJECT
Thank you! One spiritual teacher once said to me, God hates white people because they are not the original race, I then asked him where did they come from? He said they came from black people. I then proceeded by saying, then we are them and they are us, so what's your point? It means we are all one.
Mkhulu Nsingisa has the most scientific explanation of our origin, which our children need so much! Unfortunately the person who seems to be the youngest in the panel is doing his best to disrupt this valuable discussion. Wake up, Africa!
Amlak bored me here. there are things that i agree with him but his behaviour here of acting like a bigger brother bored me, coz i've seen Mkhulu speak and i know where he was going. since i started listening to this man i've never seen a white person as a medicine for a black person or a person who civilised a primitive black person anymore i gained confidence about blacks which most blacks don't have unfortunately.
Abba is amazing iyndukuzakhe zajovoza ukhuluma amaqiniso Amlak you're god of light Grand Master of Abakhaliphi bokukhanya ithunyiwe nyani they always don't understand ppl like you cz you are on another level that facts Camagu Silo Samanzi ebukhosini ❤
Ngvumelana nawe ngobumina bonke
Abba really needs to reflect! His ego was loud and caused destruction.
If you listener deeper he is diving into a deeper conversation, which requires selflessness to really understand. But our ego and entitlement doesn't allow that because its uncomfortable and vigorous. By understanding him we will evolve and adapt as people.
@palesar9541 - Based on my view, I would say. Abba did not make a self-central points on the conversation, he's just trying to outline the fact that the panel needs to have a conversation without mentioning the outsiders / outside race. He does not take away the fact that apartheid did play a huge role into our lives, but we cannot let apartheid define who we are. We cannot be define black history as the era of apartheid / use the color of our skin to define black history - I enjoyed this episode, It had great knowledgeable individuals who perceive life in a different way.
Thank you
@@thapelomorare1484 bro we do get his view but we r not there..we first need to understand the origin bcs its the foundation of everything..u Rasta did not want that, why? Ryt now we r in this situation bcs of such.
Zamalek Giza, that’s the teacher we needed here
Mos def 🔥👏
I actually wanted to say the same
That one is real tjooo
🤣 this was a really funny episode! Men don’t wanna learn from each other🤣 their stance is their stance!!🤣❤️
I am always quiet because conversations have shifted from being a discussion and sharing views to who's Right and who know's better.
Lol
Mekunzima 😂😂
Very trueeee...Funny indeed.😂
Too much knowledge sometimes will make one look stupid
Abba has a lot to learn n he thinks he knows it all😠
Babu Nsingisa was on fire like always.Umlungu is my enemy also
We needed Maponga and Dr Litchfield Tshabalala
YES!!!
Thau-Thau is on another level👌 very powerful.
Love him to bits!
He is so sound. That's the history I choose to follow
Thau-Thau humble and full of wisdom
Abba needs to understand that he too is still a learner.
This conco made me realise why its important to cite your sources even in speech
Yeeeesssss.
Most definitely
Haaa😂😂😂😂😂 dj bj.
These guys know so much about African history instead of working together and educating us. They attack each other and argue.😂😂
@@kutlwanomashiane7234 Abba was attacking. Im so annoyed by him lol
there is no attacking there is Correction
@@MasekoConverse How is it correction? How can you correct me before I finish my statement, you never know what my conclusion could be.
That's actually where the education is because they each represent a potion of us out there so they can't be in agreement because we don't all agree out there hence black conversations 🤔
@kutlwanomashiane7234 excuse me? This is what happens in normal, complex conversations, it's good that they argued
Despite the wisdom offered by figures such as Mkhulu Nsingiza and Thau-Thau, the pursuit of individual supremacy eclipsed the opportunity for a shared, enlightened outcome. This event serves as a poignant reminder that even brilliance requires the ballast of humility to achieve collective good.When individuals prioritize their own ideas over the greater good, collective intelligence suffers. Even wise people can be hindered by arrogance. True leadership requires a balance of personal vision and communal harmony.@Castle Milk Stout please give us part 2, there was more to be said than was was actually said
Abba needs to watch this episode and reflect on how he carries himself in these spaces.
TRUE.
HE IS USED TO BE IN A MORE DOMINANT ROLE; HENCE WHY HE WANTED TO STEER THE CONVERSATION.
I WATCH HIS INTERVIEWS, I APPRECIATE HIS KNOWLEDGE BUT HE ALWAYS CARRIES HIMSELF LIKE THIS, ITS NOT NICE HONESTLY.
Ahh man ABBA why did he do this not cool it could have been a place for different school of thought, this needs another EP
True i used to think he have knowledge only to find out that he is just confused
Even Chinese scientists are tracing their ancestry to the khoisan, this abba guy was payed to disrupt this episode 🤔
Abba is actually going deep to the essence of being human before being classified as a Race.
The show is about learning "Black History" but brought to you by alcohol.
We can all see what alcohol has done to the townships. Who are the target audience for this show!?
We only waking up to sleep again as the black Nation but if we can start viewing reality as spiritual beings, we stop seeing races /economic class but start to experience God having a life experience.
Umtu ngu mtu nga bantu!! Doesn't matter the race reason is I AM because you Are
Sshhhuuu, I was looking for this comment where 'alcohol ' is concerned
Being a revisionist historians wont help our people. Careful not to apologize for a nation under attack. The last thing we need is to be whilte apologists. When the topic says black history lets talk about that with all it involves so our children know why they and us are in this position
@Nkazimulo-Madiba you are correct. I kinda felt that's the point he was driving home which I'm in total agreement with, I don't share the us and the rest sentiments of Thau Thau, they are divisive and untrue, we are all one consciousness, yes we all inhabit different bodies but that's not really who we are, we are not the body. Abba actually had a good point but because he interrupted everybody no one took him seriously
alcohol in your language is what came with creation so it aint vulgar ...instead of starting your own liqor distribution thing you think alcohol is bad....anyways mayivhuke iAlkebulan
Civilization started with us n the same term got us in this predicaments.
Abba and Mkhulu it seems like they have a personal beef😅
@@LunikoMelani I sensed that. 🤣🤣
Abba once spoke about mkhulu on unpopular opinion
No Mkhulu has an ego trip, he stuck on the past
@@ayoba9797 kanjani?
@ayoba9797 how? What happened? Hoza nazo
😂Ay ngeke we need another round @Castle milk stout thank you so much for such a rich conversation
I fully support Abba's perspective. I believe that the source of all life is God, the Universe, or however you may perceive this higher power. I see this source as the origin of all humanity, where we draw our strength and energy. While the atrocities of colonization were undeniably horrific and cannot be justified, it's time to elevate the conversation beyond race and focus on our shared humanity. Understanding who God says we are should give us, as Black people, all the pride and dignity we need. Our bodies may be different colors, but they are just containers for the spirit within. Let’s shift our focus from the history of these containers to the essence of who we truly are.
100% Abba gets it even though he unfortunately disturbed others. The rest seem fixated on separation (us and them) its divisive and untrue
Abba Ayalew Amlak is something else bayovuma kdala ❤
@@edmundsishange3608nginawe mqondo uvulelekile nakumi❤
@@TshenoloKhomongoe😂😂😂❤❤❤ emf2 yekela labantu abakwantu zozwa sebebona njenganami nawe no Abba nabanye
@SiyandaHadebe-cv5sx Yeah injalo brother 😂❤
HHHA I have been praying for this day mara hayi was not ready shem. Bavele bonke bangavumelani ngalutho
Lmao
The boy Abba showed how unenlightened he is , referring to (slavery) only as being in chains, he was the only deem thing in a room filled with light🙌🏽
He even claims we are no longer in chains
Abba is invalidating other people’s views and interrupting them before they finish making their points, akukho right.
He thinks he is all that and its revealing. I used to be his fan. He is suffering from ego
@@mercymercy3584 I also like him a lot but I’m very disappointed in his conduct on this interview. Maybe he’s going through something bandla.
You guys really need to listen and hear attentively,when done that,and trace how interapting started
Such a disappointment, i use to listen to this gentleman but after seeing what his down ay cha baba...
Thinks he is always right. 😅
Knowledge is Power Wisdom is wealth
THIS WAS THE GREATEST EPISODE.
GIVE THANKS TO ALL THE FIVE VALUABLE GUESTS THAT MADE IT WORTH LISTENING TO BY MILLIONS TO COME.
Amlak made this conversation about him. We could have learned alot but he wants his reasoning to stand
And I am 😮curious why....what insecurities does he have, that made him to be that disrespectful.
@@mathapelomohaleroe1880 So annoying. He tries to outdo his teacher lol
@@thatomolapo-b4j I ALSO LIKED HOW HIS TEACHER DISCIPLINED HIM.
HE IS USED TO BE IN A DOMINANT ROLE; HENCE HE WANTED TO STEER THE CONVO.
I do understand Abba's stand point, it doesn't make sense to debate Black and "Them" ngoba they're part of "Us". We need to remember that a great number of Black are not 100% Black anymore, and some of these White are Grandparents of these Grandchildren...Do we exclude the current Generation b'cos they are not 100% Black anymore? Great debate indeed...👏👏👏
Sbu u mist the post completely and they touched on it that, before we got mixed up with other races we were the original people. Lets go back that before the contamination of whiteness.
@fezilephungwayo343 and this is what a history is about! How can y talk current and say it history. We start from the original and come forth with it to get to this mix or hybrid...we not there yet...be patient
Maponga and penuel the black pen as a mediator would slap on this
Braa!!!!!!!!!
Not Penuel. That one will interrupt like Nore.
Bro!! 🔥
The problem of knowing too much, but not knowing when you are wrong was very visible here.
Love Love this episode,a panel with a wealth of knowledge,I see them as our African Library.👐,I wish we had Bab'Joshua Maponga / Bab,Ndabe Myeza in the panel as well...Looking foward to more..
I'm with yu, Maponga was supposed to be here.
you can say this again!!!! those are the two ppl I wish were part of this conversation!
Yabona wena kube ngseduze nawe ngabe thola 💋 wakho kuwo wonke ma msg klamaconversation eyakho ivalile if kwazi kfunda ngoklalela again 💋
@@likhonamkonto2137thokoza ndluvukazi MaMkhonto
UBoy bekmele angabikhona noMkhulu longathi umlunngu wesgqoko samaSulumane coz bayathengeka too much so kube bebengekho
I need a conversation with Abba! History is a map to the future! We can not talk about History and not talk about white Caucasian people, the 2 go together. What stood up for me is the closing from Baba Buntu❤
Is Abba suggesting that there is no colour? The same argument that our colonisers use?
Very suspicious
Abba is right the is one race which is human race n Kwakhaya lendaba the is a skeleton that represents the one race which is human race umkhonto ka Abba uyajovoza ❤
There is one race, however we must acknowledge that we are also defined by our identity, color of our skin, culture, art, customs, spirituality etc, not forgetting that the western nations caused huge suffering against this African continent, we shouldn't be afraid talking about that reality its a fact. We can't reconcile with others where else a black nation is still trapped under the oppression of the westerners & their systems & say we are one race, it cannot be.
"There is only one race, the Human Race" - Mangaliso Robert Sobukwe, founder of the Pan African Congress (PAC).
@@nhlanhlakubeka3965What u shud ask yourself is since did we start being told about 1 race. And also ask yourself what ws being said b4 this 1 race story. Simply white ppl are trying to race their wrong after many years of race(ism).
Abba has a tsebinkie personality lol
Lol, he makes sense though. Always has a broader perspective of the whole.
@@kgotsochabangu9107 he does but he must let others speak and then state his knowledge or opinion.
And he is a terrible listener.
@@kgotsochabangu9107HE DOES.
HOWEVER, HE WAS NOT CONSIDERATE OF THE FACT THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT WATCH THIS SHOW DO NOT HAVE OR ARE NOT EXPOSED TO THE INFORMATION THAT LEAD TO HIS LEVEL OF INNERSTANDING THINGS.
HENCE IT IS NECESSARY FOR AMAKHEHLA TO START AT THE BEGINNING AS MKHULU NSINGIZA INITIATED IT.
@@kgotsochabangu9107 He did however, was the conversation about the perspective of the whole? Now that's where he took a sharp curve and went completely off topic.
The unison of "yah do that"😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That’s when you know ukuthi uthathwa okwengane 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Mkhari is well grounded 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
"Umlungu akangeni la", ...
@@sizwemxobo6214 😂
@❤❤😊❤❤❤❤joymaphanga1786
The subject of this conversation is “Black History” but Abba seems to think it’s about everyone else’s history. He also keeps interrupting other people.
He's gone😂
HE WANTED TO STEER IT AWAY FROM THAT.
But if ethi Mkhulu Nsingiza abelungu ingane zethu if skhuluma ngathi bazongena phela abelungu kanjani bangangeni so baba yingane zethu nini ekuqaleni or sekphilwa nje if babaqaleni so asibafake but if babengane sesvele sesikhona asingabafaki please ngvumelana nani
They paid abba
@@DaveMetsing awumazi zama ukthola ngaye but sikphikisi klokho okshoyo
Please invite Zamalek Giza... We need his wisdom and knowledge
Lol, I love this episode,I loved everything thought-provoking,pushing boundaries and emotions were high. I love it
Abba is on point!!!
I feel the frustration of Abba and its sad, that they won't understand, because they are still attached to who they've been and where they came from.
Saying "what does it mean to be black?.....nothing".....after what BLACK PEOPLE ESPECIALLY went through,and are still going through to this day just because of skin colour is thee most bullsht statement i have ever heard.
I think Abba spoiled the whole episode
@@nhlanhlakubeka3965he defiantly did, his utterly arrogant.
I'm happy i watch Hidden colours to get the insight of who we are.
@@londi88 I will definitely watch the hidden colors.
@@londi88🎯The episode was supposed to be like that but with history about the Nguni people going far back.
Abba needs to take a chill pill, clearly, he knows it all, and he should not have denied me the opportunity to learn something in this episode.
Same here,
He doesn't know anything clearly a compromised scholar
Hayi nyani
Abba is that guy that just argues forever. Knowledgeable, but wa khenya
48:30 minutes is not enough for this conversation. So much to learn
I hear where Abba is coming from. He's just misunderstood.
Abba is very deep n so conscious they are against that u Silo Samanzi enlighte me my king we are one ❤
And people don’t see that.
Abba almost spoiled the conversation, I became impatient with his destructive behaviour not allowing people to finish their thoughts.
Not almost he did
The student meet the teacher after the student felt that they have learned more than the teacher have taught
...yes that is the reality; no one person is the holder of all knowledge. Each one studies, researches and brings their own cultural and life experiences, and understandings to the discussion.🌅
Abba turning a conversation to some kind of debate.
abba ayalew is lost he is comparing Morena Moshoeshoe to stalin 😂. He is telling us about humanity but let him go to orania and let see if they will let him in and stay. I agree the with the older gentleman who are disagreeing with him
Hahaha he has Penuelism in him now 🤣
We cant even talk about black history manje
Yofunani orania nisafuna kwenza lento yenu yoklandela belungu ayi ayi ayi
@@SiyandaHadebe-cv5sx akere yena o bua ka humanity jwale kere yena a tsamaya aye ko orania ayo dula teng re sheba na hore o tla thola humanity. Ntho engwe orania e Afrika hare latelle makgowa hobane makgowa atswa europe. Hare batle makgowa batlo nka lefatshe ba le etse la bona
Abba's body language though. I mean even if you disagree with something the least you could do is listen just as much as others were listening to him.
why does ABBA have a freemason & Knights Templar Ring?
This was very educational we definitely need a part 2 of this conversation shoutout to Castle Milk stout✊🏾
Part 2 without abba guy he dont have communication skills
Can we have a part 2 of this conversation and replace Abba with Dr khanyisile litchfield-tshabalala.
I love Abba! He is on point. When do we move forward as a people. Can we be kings again, can we use this melanin for our advantage!
not really but there's some misinformation we can correct about melanin. the kings issue is a very deep one because even the people we call kings today are serving the republics. so there's no kingdom bigger than the british they're still rulling us to date. that one can be a whole topic on its own
@@lebogangmoalusi4749 we cant disown ourselves in moving forward to make a certain people feel comfortable. So we must erase our history in order to forward, the show was about black conversations, black history and to teach young ones that yes we too were great even though they dont teach you that at school? Funny that the people you lot are fighting for so much to feel comfortablr at our expense dont rate you nor do they think you are better than. No one would ever tell jews for example to not talk about their pain because its now 2024 but lona clever ones want that of a black child.
I agree with u but we also need to know how to be kings the only way is to know how kingsdoms were created
Abba Amlek is the best
History helps with understanding how you're experiencing the present. History cannot be nitpicked to suit your understanding and your current lifes experience, and the source of that history will curate your understanding. That then serves as a compas to your future hopes.
A much needed conversation, which shouldn't have turned into a debate (unless thats the premise of the show). All perspectives are valid to a degree and hold relevance at different weights though one should be able to stand besides their thoughts and observe them as they develop and dismantle as the engage with other peoples thoughts.
Can't change the truth, but you can always tell a story.
"There's never been a day where there hasn't been a war somewhere..."
Abba Setswana se re ngwana wa tlhogo e 'golo o sira Rrage. Setswana sere susu ilela suswana gore suswana a go ilele. Mkhulu o saya le Ditaola Badimong.
Pula!
A ene!
He is knowledgeable! A ene👊
This could've been better.
There was a lot potential for more insight to be shared but time was wasted on misunderstandings that i expected the panel to handle better.
I will never look myself the same way, after this conversation I'm wowed.
Can we please get part two. Focus on Africans before colonization. We were robbed this information in this episode
Abba was so childish, also mkhul'Nsingiza also became so emotional and drawn into childish behaviour. Thau-Thau showed maturity.
Mkhulu is angry. Mkhulu he needs to calm down and learn to control his emotions. 😂😂
Let's just be thankful for the coming together and direction focused communication taking place.. good wise men in our society siting and discussing our collective reality
That alone speaks volumes on how we could utilise the tools we have at our disposal 🤞🏾
I knew Abba had a beef with the Kermit 'African Calender' people. 😂
We need Unity 🙏.
The beauty of "Blackness" is understanding that everyone was right in their point and everyone was wrong in trying to make the point as well. we still have a long way to go Family, lets keep on walking .....
Thanks to Abba that was a complete waste of time. He has no respect for anyone else, now which is sad to watch. Lol they 🖐🏻got to him somehow and now dude cant allow others talk about themselves without including his GNU. They couldnt even talk about black people without a push back from him to be gnu friendly for his 🖐🏻😂
This was such an interesting information conversation,Abba just ruined it,he has the tendency of wanting to dominate and act like he knows it all,he does this a lot I've noticed even in his podcast,it's unfortunate really....but thank you to the rest for a great contribution,our children need to hear this knowledge...Camagu
Give them 2 hours please
With Maphonga
100% agree with you my brother
Abba Ayalew Amlak his intellectual is on another level he can stand his truth and he understands that we are not body but we are souls abo baba abadala are still oppressed n basa riser but they are deciding the central point Abba is always been misunderstood cz he is on another level so ungawatotosi amakhehla😂 just cz the truth hurts u Silo Samanzi uzinyo lengwenya khalipha Mkhali ❤
There is no such thin as his truth or my truth etc. Truth is just that no matter who u are, it's not personalized.
Abba was paid to make the episode a little flop
Please do another same episode with the same guests but exclude Abba please.
Why must he be excluded?
Yeah guys like you who are still new in this teachings
You must meet mkhulu but at the end you will need Abba to finish up your journey after digging deep and found we are all one
We definitely need part 2. I know maybe this is all about conversations, but I think we should have questions where each answer based on their own understanding, because this topic is very sensitive and personal.
Can these 5 meet up every 2 weeks and engage in these type of complex conversations please😅🙌🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Thank you Abba, people have put a colonial stamp to the black skin, we will even forget who we are as human. Humanity is a bigger concept than culture and not most people are ready to discuss, because it requires one to be selfless and forget about skin, culture, tradition and personal value
Brother bayogcina bavumelana nami nawe no Abba Ayalew Amlak that man is something else bayovuma kdala abantu 😂😂❤
Abba was on point also he is far extremely forward in this thing of consciousness
Our elders they are still stacked in color and stuff
Where is Joshua Maponga when we need him
Mkhulu Nsingiza is a GOATS ❤😂
Well in my own opinion the conversation became personal,Abba looked at the chair as a point of making and sticking to making his point n it distracted the importance of the massage to those who have no idea or clueless,I think he became selfish
Ai.. kunzima.. we have a long way to go
These people do not understand Abba Ayalew Amlak. Baba Buntu is ever so calm
We need part 2 of this one...we didn't get enough information...please !!
Abba money Abba money...😢
What a waste of time.. I wish to meet uMkhulu Nsingiza one day.. Greatest wish of mine coz he is my humbler, got me out of a trouble I thought was never to be solved.. Thank you Mkhulu.. I hope to see you one day 🙏
Different opinion opens up the hypothesis for us to work on.
😂😂This was a tough discussion
Abba o jampisa bo ngwana youthfulness. He does not listen and wants to control the conversation with elders by shouting. He is used to being listened to alone.
Heavy weights in this episode. 🖤🤌💥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Rasta mislead the d whole thing n we ended not getting any knowledge 😢pppsssshhh
Speaking English in a none English accent is nice, i love it.
Thoughts fighting against thoughts, DOPE convo though 🔥🔥🔥
Singabantu abansundu ✨✨✨
Grandmaster Thau Thau 👏
Abba contributed nothing to this conversation yet opposed almost every view from other panel members! As such, I missed out on an incredible opportunity learn more about myself.
In love of abba❤❤❤❤
We were robbed of good discussion. Please bring Mr J Maphonga in the discussion and remove Abba!
No Abba is going nowhere, let Maponga find him in the panel
I saw the panel and got excited. Watched the episode and I felt robbed of a good conversation and enlightenment. 😢
I understand the stand of Abba. By us saying a certain race is superior to another, that brings racism.
Great debate indeed.👏👏👏 The time given was extremely too short. It will be appreciated if Part 2 can be arranged, of course with more knowledgeable Participants (to add kulaba abakhona) who will be able to present their understanding from different tested sources. Structured Agenda of the debate to be agreed upon. Bese ziyasha, Azisheee....😂 I can't wait.😂😂😂
Abba is my representation in this conversation. It's so unfortunate how these conversations are conceptualised in the minds of people. If we all have the same origin as a species then what does it matter who is black or white? We're all black in some shape or form. By relegating this conversation to identity we miss out on the opportunity to highlight the massive achievements of the human being.
When white people teach about white history its no problem until its black people talking about black history 🤣
Smh
WHERE YOU ASKED: "why does it matter if you are black or white?"
BECAUSE WHITE IS A GENETIC MODIFICATION OF THE ORIGINAL OR, AS THEY PUT IT, MUTATION.
READ THE BOOK: BLACKROOTS SCIENCE ON THIS SUBJECT
Thank you! One spiritual teacher once said to me, God hates white people because they are not the original race, I then asked him where did they come from? He said they came from black people. I then proceeded by saying, then we are them and they are us, so what's your point? It means we are all one.
Mkhulu started saying white is his enemy, and then later said let's not talk about what people, uhmmm isn't he contradicting him self?