Regarding the question of “why do all these languages distinguish edibles,” food/hunger is a primeval concern for our species. The fact we can live in societies that aren’t necessarily chronically concerned with food is a fairly recent development, and even in the modern world it’s still honestly a luxury.
I'm currently learning a language that has a special word for "Thank You" that you specifically use for food/drink. It means something like "you save me/you give me life"
Now this is why a second channel was a good idea, separating into categories, looking forward for the second channel to grow as significant as the first one
I'm loving the more frequent conlang videos, been watching since episode one and I love that the language is really taking shape now. I wish you still did a sentence at the end of each episode, i found them really helpful in understanding the constructs you'd come up with that episode. Almost like revising when learning a language Just wanted to say I've been here since episode one and loved every episode but hardly ever comment. Keep doing what you're doing Bib
Regarding classifiers for family members: Catalan has a set of possessive adjectives that are almost exclusively used for family members, especially your parents. Oddly enough it is also used for your house. There aren't many other situations when they are used. Just throwing that out there!
I was actually making a language a while ago with relational classifiers and had a distinction between wild plants, planted plants, and harvested plants. Amazing to see it's presence in a natural language.
I've always loved Possessive markers that vary in marking by animacy. Examples, using Animate Noun (A) and Inanimate Noun (I), for marking on the more animate noun: A owns I > A marked as possessor I owns A > A marked as possesse I1 owns I2 > I1 marked as possessor A1 owns A2 > A1 marked as possessor Hope that made sense 😅
Since I saw you coming up with this system I thought that the word for today should be "our day, the day we have" (obviously first person inclusive). It dont even needs to be a real clasifier just an affix that looks similar to classifiers and is not use productively other than that i think tirimba could be tirmib (would reduce similarly the number of syllables). With that all the "clunky" classifiers would be plural that people could catch as logical, maybe even use it as some sort of analogy
I think since the classifiers are related to things that are culturally significant (e.g. sugarcane) this us a good chance to relate them to some significant everyday object in the con culture
Perhaps, fruit-sweetened foods might qualify as sweets in the Raga sweets possessive classifier, since fruits produce natural sorbitol. Maybe honey-sweetened foods might count as sweets as well.
Regarding the question of “why do all these languages distinguish edibles,” food/hunger is a primeval concern for our species. The fact we can live in societies that aren’t necessarily chronically concerned with food is a fairly recent development, and even in the modern world it’s still honestly a luxury.
I'm currently learning a language that has a special word for "Thank You" that you specifically use for food/drink. It means something like "you save me/you give me life"
Now this is why a second channel was a good idea, separating into categories, looking forward for the second channel to grow as significant as the first one
I'm loving the more frequent conlang videos, been watching since episode one and I love that the language is really taking shape now. I wish you still did a sentence at the end of each episode, i found them really helpful in understanding the constructs you'd come up with that episode. Almost like revising when learning a language
Just wanted to say I've been here since episode one and loved every episode but hardly ever comment. Keep doing what you're doing Bib
Regarding classifiers for family members: Catalan has a set of possessive adjectives that are almost exclusively used for family members, especially your parents. Oddly enough it is also used for your house. There aren't many other situations when they are used. Just throwing that out there!
Could be following a theme of upbringing or inheritance?
I was actually making a language a while ago with relational classifiers and had a distinction between wild plants, planted plants, and harvested plants. Amazing to see it's presence in a natural language.
I've always loved Possessive markers that vary in marking by animacy.
Examples, using Animate Noun (A) and Inanimate Noun (I), for marking on the more animate noun:
A owns I > A marked as possessor
I owns A > A marked as possesse
I1 owns I2 > I1 marked as possessor
A1 owns A2 > A1 marked as possessor
Hope that made sense 😅
Edibility is also a commmon feature of odor term systems.
The difference that I instantly thought of with customary value and personally owned is monetary value and sentimental value respectively
Or whether it's bought/sold vs passed down/handcrafted
I was conlanging as this video dropped lmao. Trying to figure out my first somewhat ergative/absolutive language
Since I saw you coming up with this system I thought that the word for today should be "our day, the day we have" (obviously first person inclusive). It dont even needs to be a real clasifier just an affix that looks similar to classifiers and is not use productively
other than that i think tirimba could be tirmib (would reduce similarly the number of syllables). With that all the "clunky" classifiers would be plural that people could catch as logical, maybe even use it as some sort of analogy
We're eating good tonight! 😋 🍽️
How common is it for a language to have both a widespread gender system and also a widespread classifier system, like this language?
I think since the classifiers are related to things that are culturally significant (e.g. sugarcane) this us a good chance to relate them to some significant everyday object in the con culture
Perhaps, fruit-sweetened foods might qualify as sweets in the Raga sweets possessive classifier, since fruits produce natural sorbitol. Maybe honey-sweetened foods might count as sweets as well.
:D