Hi, I have a super cub aswell, it's about a year old now and just over 3 thousand miles so far. Last August I did a john o groats to land end trip on mine avoiding motorways,it was 1026 miles into total. The best mpg I saw was 174mpg, and that was following a friend on his old c90 cub,so going along at a steady 35-40-mph. The day to day running around town I am getting approx 125mpg,but that is hard acceleration at every set of lights. It will happily cruise at 55-60mph on the flat, and on a long downhill I have seen 76mph on the clock, the main reason being that it just loves to rev. I am a motorcycle mechanic of 30 plus years, having worked on and ridden most things. The first thing that struck me was just how well made this little baby is, it is excellent quality, there are no sharp edges anywhere, the wheels have a fantastic finish as does the paintwork. Personally, I would wholeheartedly recommend this bike to anyone, it's my daily runner and I love it.
They keep going forever. SE Asia’s main mode of transport. I even treated mine to fully synthetic oil cos I love it so much. Tip: it’s possible to roll start them if you find neutral between 2nd-3rd and then drop it in gear when it’s rolling
In answer to the consumption question, I have a SuperCub and have kept records from new about a year ago showing an average of 153mpg (UK gallons). That's riding it quite hard. Not as practical as a 125 twist and go scooter as it is much more awkward to ride and has no internal storage, though I've added the Honda rack. But I didn't get it for practicality, as Mr F says, it's great fun precisely because it is so idiosyncratic.
I purchased one of the original Honda 50 in around 1962 or 1963 when I was just 15 1/2 years old. But now with the Supercub at 125 CC, it should go well over sixty even with two people on it. I'd buy one tomorrow if my other half let me, because she is worried about my age at 76.
Just subscribedto your channel just. Fab and honest entertainment. I had a honda sh 125 innova for 12 years commuting 26 miles a day. Loved its convenience so much i used it for everything. I regretted selling it as wanted a bit more oomph and protection from the weather so got an xmax 250. I did 60, 000 miles on it and was going strong and still totally immaculate ridden every working day. Covered in acf50 most of time. Mine did 140mpg. Only fault i had was gear change indicator disappeared. Easy fix water in connector at gearbox. Had 3 chains 3 sets tyres and no brake pads. I so regret selling it just to keep as a collector. Understand why in Asia they are top trumps. When i sold it guy picked it up in a mondeo estate😂😂😂. On an aside my xmax as a commuter is fantastic, you get dry feet and body and 250 is quick off mark and will cruise at 70 no problem. Only 60 mpg though prob cos twist and go sensation is twist it flat out all time, lovely sensation. Done 30 k on this. Bought it as advert said seized abandoned for 3 years. I though a project. When i got there we carried it into the van. Got it home, yes it was seized - just the brake calipers. Seller was a numpty. Changed belt in that time, never missed a beat. I prefer to use it to my car or other motorbikes for getting around, shopping etc. On a thrash its a real mcycle but these commuters could drastically reduce congestion, emissions etc. I wish the govt would encourage the youth of today by incentives. Perhaps it would kindle youngbpeoples enthusiasm for 2 wheels. Sorry for long post but this type of motorcycle really IS pure fun. I have owned too many bikes over 46 years but still love this type of mavhine as an extra in garage😂😂😂😂good on yer fab and so true review
"smiles per miles", I am convinced. I am going to wait a couple of weeks till the 2022 model comes out here in The Netherlands and am going to buy one. I had my doubts because the top-speed will hardly suffice on the highway but then.. maybe I'll just skip using the highway all together. Nice video!
I’ve had my Super Cub for a few months now and I love it. My only complaints would be that when the engine is first started the shift from first to second is hit or miss. Weird. After it’s warmed up no problems. The seat kills me after an hour straight in the saddle. I’m 6’ and 200 pounds and it hauls me around surprisingly well.
Here in Asia we have standard motorcycles in this kind of “revolving gearbox”(mostly cb125s/cg125 clones) My SYM wolf 125s gearbox goes N-1-2-3-4-5-, you don’t need to find neutral between gears and it’s a absolutely godsend for city commute even with an traditional clutch.
There have been some gear box changes for the US market which is reverse to the British bike. Front lever down for down shift, back for upshift. Love the 17's and the tires also grip very well. Riding in hilly mountainous terrain I get 154mpg as average. I found a sprocket alignment tool which is spot on for aligning the rear wheel. Bike is an absolute joy.
Agree with you about tubeless tires they're the best. But I love the twist n go on my 300 Forza. And yes you meet the nicest people on a Honda. Great ride.😉
I totally agree about the tubeless tires. I almost died because of tube type tires once. I never road another bike with tube type tires. On a street bike, a flat on a bike with tube type tires means a tow truck. That is assuming you survive the blowout. Unfortunately the Super Cub is not for me. For two main reasons. Back in the early '90s I owned a 1983 Honda Passport 70. Exactly the same as a Super Cub. Same ridiculous transmission. Why oh why didn't they put a clutch on it? Or even a CVT? It's a nightmare to shift, the shift pattern is upside down, and it's clunky as hell. Pretty much unrideable in stop and go traffic. Give me a manual clutch anytime over this nightmare. The other reason is the seat, or rather lack thereof. The 1983 model I had did have a full length seat, and I did fit on it, by sitting near the back of the seat. I'm 6'1" with a 34" inseam, and I don't fit on that tiny little seat on the 125. I can literally put my chin on my knees. WHY didn't they make a full size seat for it? Many people are more than four feet tall. I actually fit way better on a 50cc Metropolitan or Ruckus than the Super Cub 125. I see a lot of these for sale on Craigslist. I suspect a lot of people bought them for nostalgic reasons, then discovered they couldn't ride them.
I remember the time when I upshifted on a cub past 4th gear (no gear indicator) and cycled into 1st gear while downhill on a bend. Scariest engine braking, rear wheel lockup moment of my life, the rear of the bike violently catapulting itself left to right, left to right!
The Cubs have always had the odd gear shift. I passed my motorbike test on my Dad’s C70 back in the late seventies and the gears were the same except the, if I remember correctly, there were only three gears.😂.
If you had this great idea thinking & putting your Old Lady on the back of your bike was a good move, only to realize you F'd up. This Cub would be a super great solution. Just talking Her into it will take sometime, but your mental stability will thank you for it. Plus, if she does piss you off during a pub stop, you can split and leave her in the dust.
I have a 2020 Honda super cub.. It's NOTHING like yours ????? My gear box is neutral on the bottom and Four Up... I don't understand the cycles back to neutral ?? I'm confused 🤔🤔🤔
I think they have different shift patterns depending on the country. In Australia mine is the same as yours, neutral at bottom, then heel down four times to top. No cyclical return through to first, just the conventional toe down to get back to neutral.
You are probably my favorite bike reviewer, also its uncanny the timing of your bikes. We have both purchased/reviewed cb300r, rebel 500, super cub and i think ninja 400 within months of esch other.
@@Mrfish2015 They must be different. I know that when in 4th I can push down on the back pedal on the gear shift and it will disengage the clutch and it will free wheel. I experimented this and jump started the bike just to see if it would start.
I'm considering one of these as a fun bike to bimble around on and you've answered the only question I had about it....how the gearbox works....cheers👍
Dear Mr Fish ( with a hint of Franky Howard ) I bought my cub after watching your test drive a few months ago....it lasted about 250 miles before it broke down ( ABS warning light flashing at all speeds ) it will cost me £130 to have it taken to the dealers and returned...now that sucks ..
I’m getting a 2019 with only 19 miles on it. Thanks for an informative and entertaining video. Love your sense of humor and the accent. Here in America we don’t speak much English 😂😂 Do you still have the Super Cub and still love it? I subbed 🎉😎
Hey sorry new to biking. How did you cut thru 3,2, and 1st to n at that break part. I just disengage the clutch when braking and pass thru each gear once I get low enough...
@@Mrfish2015 Hi are thay out on the market have you seen any on the road i have not seen them in Norway yet only in a broucher . i hope you try one soon
But i have to say i love the Honda Forza 300 but it dose come in Red in Thailand i dose . But in Norway no only 125 I like your Progam its great im sorryfor my bad english .
Nice video. I wish I could edit like that. Torn between this or a Sym Fiddle. Seem to be retailing at similar prices these days(if the cub has been pre registered)
Herald, Herald read all about it, latest Fish news, Herald, Herald. You don't get that with online versions of papers. Paperboys, that's how some of the big shots got their starts.
Hey Mr Fish, Honda should slip you a little folding stuff for your wallet...great advertisement for the Cub...now I want one 😀. It’s always a pleasure to listen to your dulcet tones 👍🎙. Oh yeah...when are you gonna hit the green lanes again? (That’s if you’re restrictions are over) Cheers.
I have a new SC, and in the first 600 miles (had to put it away for the winter), I was getting 125 mpg. I hope that gets a little better once the engine's broken in a bit more.
Man I’m having a tough time deciding between the Honda Super Cub or the Honda ct125 (we call it the Tail 125 here in the States). I’m leaning toward the Super Cub bc of the higher top speed but the Trail is pretty dang cool and comes with an old fashioned key. I’d love to test ride both but it’s almost impossible right now. I’d have to put a deposit down and put my name on a waiting list. Lol. Cheers and thanks for the vid.
I too was torn between the 12 or the Super cab I wound up getting the Super Cub simply because it was available and I bought a used one cheap runs like a top does everything I wanted to I'm very happy with it
Google says petrol is about £1.285 per litre, so £2.70 gets you 2.1L, which is 0.46 Gallons. 80 miles on 0.46gallons = 174 mpg. £3.50 is 2.72L, 134mpg. Why isn't everyone using these?
Spot the 6 point licence endorsement and wallet lightening manoeuvre @4.28. Maybe you should consider editing that out dood, before the feds see it and call round to feel yer collar.
Hi, I have a super cub aswell, it's about a year old now and just over 3 thousand miles so far. Last August I did a john o groats to land end trip on mine avoiding motorways,it was 1026 miles into total. The best mpg I saw was 174mpg, and that was following a friend on his old c90 cub,so going along at a steady 35-40-mph. The day to day running around town I am getting approx 125mpg,but that is hard acceleration at every set of lights. It will happily cruise at 55-60mph on the flat, and on a long downhill I have seen 76mph on the clock, the main reason being that it just loves to rev.
I am a motorcycle mechanic of 30 plus years, having worked on and ridden most things. The first thing that struck me was just how well made this little baby is, it is excellent quality, there are no sharp edges anywhere, the wheels have a fantastic finish as does the paintwork.
Personally, I would wholeheartedly recommend this bike to anyone, it's my daily runner and I love it.
These bikes have a place in my heart . It's the first bike I rode in 1972 when my dad had one due to petrol rationing . Bike mad ever since !
They keep going forever. SE Asia’s main mode of transport. I even treated mine to fully synthetic oil cos I love it so much. Tip: it’s possible to roll start them if you find neutral between 2nd-3rd and then drop it in gear when it’s rolling
In answer to the consumption question, I have a SuperCub and have kept records from new about a year ago showing an average of 153mpg (UK gallons). That's riding it quite hard. Not as practical as a 125 twist and go scooter as it is much more awkward to ride and has no internal storage, though I've added the Honda rack. But I didn't get it for practicality, as Mr F says, it's great fun precisely because it is so idiosyncratic.
Cheers for the info mate 👌
Thanks for that fun video!!!
Number one thing to love: It gets you out of the house.
True
I purchased one of the original Honda 50 in around 1962 or 1963 when I was just 15 1/2 years old. But now with the Supercub at 125 CC, it should go well over sixty even with two people on it. I'd buy one tomorrow if my other half let me, because she is worried about my age at 76.
Have seriously been considering one of these as a 2nd/commuter bike & I think you’ve just made my mind up 👍🏻🏍
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Just subscribedto your channel just. Fab and honest entertainment. I had a honda sh 125 innova for 12 years commuting 26 miles a day. Loved its convenience so much i used it for everything. I regretted selling it as wanted a bit more oomph and protection from the weather so got an xmax 250. I did 60, 000 miles on it and was going strong and still totally immaculate ridden every working day. Covered in acf50 most of time. Mine did 140mpg. Only fault i had was gear change indicator disappeared. Easy fix water in connector at gearbox. Had 3 chains 3 sets tyres and no brake pads. I so regret selling it just to keep as a collector. Understand why in Asia they are top trumps. When i sold it guy picked it up in a mondeo estate😂😂😂. On an aside my xmax as a commuter is fantastic, you get dry feet and body and 250 is quick off mark and will cruise at 70 no problem. Only 60 mpg though prob cos twist and go sensation is twist it flat out all time, lovely sensation. Done 30 k on this. Bought it as advert said seized abandoned for 3 years. I though a project. When i got there we carried it into the van. Got it home, yes it was seized - just the brake calipers. Seller was a numpty. Changed belt in that time, never missed a beat. I prefer to use it to my car or other motorbikes for getting around, shopping etc. On a thrash its a real mcycle but these commuters could drastically reduce congestion, emissions etc. I wish the govt would encourage the youth of today by incentives. Perhaps it would kindle youngbpeoples enthusiasm for 2 wheels. Sorry for long post but this type of motorcycle really IS pure fun. I have owned too many bikes over 46 years but still love this type of mavhine as an extra in garage😂😂😂😂good on yer fab and so true review
Thanks for the long post 😂 glad you see the benefits of the little ones , everyone should have one
"smiles per miles", I am convinced. I am going to wait a couple of weeks till the 2022 model comes out here in The Netherlands and am going to buy one. I had my doubts because the top-speed will hardly suffice on the highway but then.. maybe I'll just skip using the highway all together. Nice video!
I’ve had my Super Cub for a few months now and I love it. My only complaints would be that when the engine is first started the shift from first to second is hit or miss. Weird. After it’s warmed up no problems. The seat kills me after an hour straight in the saddle. I’m 6’ and 200 pounds and it hauls me around surprisingly well.
I love those gears/cetrifugal. I lived in Bangkok for 5 years and drove a Honda Wave 125 (same engine and gearbox) and so easy to use in city traffic.
Here in Asia we have standard motorcycles in this kind of “revolving gearbox”(mostly cb125s/cg125 clones) My SYM wolf 125s gearbox goes N-1-2-3-4-5-, you don’t need to find neutral between gears and it’s a absolutely godsend for city commute even with an traditional clutch.
Love your number one! 125 mpg.....best way I know to social distancing.
There have been some gear box changes for the US market which is reverse to the British bike. Front lever down for down shift, back for upshift. Love the 17's and the tires also grip very well. Riding in hilly mountainous terrain I get 154mpg as average. I found a sprocket alignment tool which is spot on for aligning the rear wheel. Bike is an absolute joy.
Agree with you about tubeless tires they're the best. But I love the twist n go on my 300 Forza. And yes you meet the nicest people on a Honda. Great ride.😉
You meet the nicest people on a Honda
I totally agree about the tubeless tires. I almost died because of tube type tires once. I never road another bike with tube type tires. On a street bike, a flat on a bike with tube type tires means a tow truck. That is assuming you survive the blowout. Unfortunately the Super Cub is not for me. For two main reasons. Back in the early '90s I owned a 1983 Honda Passport 70. Exactly the same as a Super Cub. Same ridiculous transmission. Why oh why didn't they put a clutch on it? Or even a CVT? It's a nightmare to shift, the shift pattern is upside down, and it's clunky as hell. Pretty much unrideable in stop and go traffic. Give me a manual clutch anytime over this nightmare. The other reason is the seat, or rather lack thereof. The 1983 model I had did have a full length seat, and I did fit on it, by sitting near the back of the seat. I'm 6'1" with a 34" inseam, and I don't fit on that tiny little seat on the 125. I can literally put my chin on my knees. WHY didn't they make a full size seat for it? Many people are more than four feet tall. I actually fit way better on a 50cc Metropolitan or Ruckus than the Super Cub 125. I see a lot of these for sale on Craigslist. I suspect a lot of people bought them for nostalgic reasons, then discovered they couldn't ride them.
I remember the time when I upshifted on a cub past 4th gear (no gear indicator) and cycled into 1st gear while downhill on a bend. Scariest engine braking, rear wheel lockup moment of my life, the rear of the bike violently catapulting itself left to right, left to right!
Is def true, smile per miles is far more important than power per pound! :-) I really like little bikes, I must get me one at somepoint :-)
Do it
@@Mrfish2015 is on the cards! :D
Do it !.. you'll never regrets a Super Cub
@@timhudson1846 Probs wouldn't be a Super Cub (nothing against them), but I would like a 125 or somit similar.
Who are you insured with? They do sound very good.
The Cubs have always had the odd gear shift. I passed my motorbike test on my Dad’s C70 back in the late seventies and the gears were the same except the, if I remember correctly, there were only three gears.😂.
If you had this great idea thinking & putting your Old Lady on the back of your bike was a good move, only to realize you F'd up. This Cub would be a super great solution. Just talking Her into it will take sometime, but your mental stability will thank you for it. Plus, if she does piss you off during a pub stop, you can split and leave her in the dust.
"...enjoy motorcycling, people That's what it all about." Yep!! 👍👍
Close to getting one and I believe you might have persuaded me, thank you very much!
Big man on a little bike.
I think everyone would do well to have a little bike like this. So much fun.
I agree
I have a 2020 Honda super cub..
It's NOTHING like yours ?????
My gear box is neutral on the bottom and Four Up...
I don't understand the cycles back to neutral ?? I'm confused 🤔🤔🤔
If you stop in 4th , whilst at a standstill press down on the front shift it should go into neutral
@@Mrfish2015 I will have to try that !
I think they have different shift patterns depending on the country. In Australia mine is the same as yours, neutral at bottom, then heel down four times to top. No cyclical return through to first, just the conventional toe down to get back to neutral.
You are probably my favorite bike reviewer, also its uncanny the timing of your bikes. We have both purchased/reviewed cb300r, rebel 500, super cub and i think ninja 400 within months of esch other.
Thanks , appreciate it 👌
Dint own one so no practical experience, I'm thinking just forget about the heel shift and just use toe
I'm averaging 140mpg. US version gear box is 4 up on the heal and no rotation to 1st. (Also no side stand.😡)
The rotation only works when stationary , do they have a different box in the US ?
@@Mrfish2015 They must be different. I know that when in 4th I can push down on the back pedal on the gear shift and it will disengage the clutch and it will free wheel. I experimented this and jump started the bike just to see if it would start.
Yes..I believe they are different from the UK bikes..
I'm in Missouri USA
Great review. Hi from Brisbane Australia 👍
Hey, thanks!
I'm considering one of these as a fun bike to bimble around on and you've answered the only question I had about it....how the gearbox works....cheers👍
Alan Henderson Highly recommended 👌🏻👍🏻 Love mine 🥰
Dear Mr Fish ( with a hint of Franky Howard ) I bought my cub after watching your test drive a few months ago....it lasted about 250 miles before it broke down ( ABS warning light flashing at all speeds ) it will cost me £130 to have it taken to the dealers and returned...now that sucks ..
They should pay
What kind of warranty is that? There must be at least two years of free repairs if failures not caused by bad riding.
I have the CB125R which is averaging about 126 mpg on the trip. Cost of fuel is negligible, even compared to the most fuel efficient cars.
I’m getting a 2019 with only 19 miles on it.
Thanks for an informative and entertaining video. Love your sense of humor and the accent. Here in America we don’t speak much English 😂😂
Do you still have the Super Cub and still love it?
I subbed 🎉😎
Seems to move along pretty well Mr. Fish.
It’s not bad
where can i buy offroad /trial tyres for this byke ? Tubeless
@@NewWorldHoarder not possible in Portugal,besides supercub is ok but sometimes i go offroad thas all
I too have been searching high and low for some Trials tires tubeless.
I want them for light duty woods riding
Nice 1 Mr Fish
Does the supercub have a chain
Yes
Hey sorry new to biking. How did you cut thru 3,2, and 1st to n at that break part. I just disengage the clutch when braking and pass thru each gear once I get low enough...
If you mean from 4th to 1st , only works when stationary when in 4 th click down on the front it will go to neutral then 1st
The chronicles of mr fish I’ve put 900 miles on this thing and never new that and don’t remember seeing it in the manual thanks. Safe riding.
Entertaining as always Mr. Fish.
👌
Norman is sitting with his slide rule and a ready reckoner, just waiting to tell you the MPH. 👍👊
I was 90% sure I wanted to buy this bike. Now you made it 99%. The remaining 1% is the question Would Honda Grom make me smile even more?
I would hang those wheels on my wall for art. Great video.
I just wanted to let you know that you’re totally going to kick your air addiction if you keep driving on the wrong side of the road man
Look`s Great have you tried a 2020 Yamaha Tricity 300 ?
No , but wouldn’t mind a go on one
@@Mrfish2015 Hi are thay out on the market have you seen any on the road i have not seen them in Norway yet only in a broucher . i hope you try one soon
But i have to say i love the Honda Forza 300 but it dose come in Red in Thailand i dose . But in Norway no only 125 I like your Progam its great im sorryfor my bad english .
dose not come in red in norway
Amazing how you look like you actually know where you're going - even when going the wrong way in a lane. :^)
I never know
How can 3 bikes be cheaper to ensure than 2 bikes to insure by £100?
Didn't Jasper Carrot sing a song about this bike?
You got me going down the Jasper Carrott rabbit hole on RUclips.
Would love to hear his song about a Super Cub.
@@adiohead I think it was called 'go funky moped'..
I’m too young to know
@@Mrfish2015 fibber ! 😁
You're a Professional.... Which one? Bodie or Doyle!
The old one
Best review man 👍
Nice video. I wish I could edit like that. Torn between this or a Sym Fiddle. Seem to be retailing at similar prices these days(if the cub has been pre registered)
Wow Fish you overtook a Bus - double-decker! Parked? doesn't matter. You should get some saddle bags - do a paper round on the way to work.
Extra money would be nice
Herald, Herald read all about it, latest Fish news, Herald, Herald. You don't get that with online versions of papers. Paperboys, that's how some of the big shots got their starts.
Hey Mr Fish,
Honda should slip you a little folding stuff for your wallet...great advertisement for the Cub...now I want one 😀. It’s always a pleasure to listen to your dulcet tones 👍🎙.
Oh yeah...when are you gonna hit the green lanes again? (That’s if you’re restrictions are over)
Cheers.
I keep telling them the same thing but alas nothing yet
ps, would you know if anyone has fitted heated grips to a cub?
So after watching your bike reviews, what I get from them is that Honda only makes amazing bikes. Good to know. I'll choose a bike from that brand.
They’re are plenty of good bikes out there
You make me laugh, thanks for the video, nice bike
I still have my 1972 Honda CT90 it has the same gear box ✌🏻
Nice , in Cali things last forever
I’ve got to get one don’t know when probably when I have convinced the wife I need two bikes .
@m15terr33d Ha Ha! Can't have two wives___shame really :)
It'll be a bloody Brompton next ! Get a grip man .. 🤣🤣
Oooh there’s an idea
180 miles per gallon 😎
Loved the drum roll 🤣😂🤣😂
Got to build drama
I have a new SC, and in the first 600 miles (had to put it away for the winter), I was getting 125 mpg. I hope that gets a little better once the engine's broken in a bit more.
Man I’m having a tough time deciding between the Honda Super Cub or the Honda ct125 (we call it the Tail 125 here in the States). I’m leaning toward the Super Cub bc of the higher top speed but the Trail is pretty dang cool and comes with an old fashioned key.
I’d love to test ride both but it’s almost impossible right now. I’d have to put a deposit down and put my name on a waiting list. Lol. Cheers and thanks for the vid.
I too was torn between the 12 or the Super cab I wound up getting the Super Cub simply because it was available and I bought a used one cheap runs like a top does everything I wanted to I'm very happy with it
Trail not 12
Google says petrol is about £1.285 per litre, so £2.70 gets you 2.1L, which is 0.46 Gallons. 80 miles on 0.46gallons = 174 mpg. £3.50 is 2.72L, 134mpg.
Why isn't everyone using these?
Oof be about a tenner per tank at todays prices
Spot the 6 point licence endorsement and wallet lightening manoeuvre @4.28. Maybe you should consider editing that out dood, before the feds see it and call round to feel yer collar.
Unlikely the crossing was not in use
@@Mrfish2015 You need to do your homework on that dood.
Smiles per miles really? Who came up with that one? The drummer? Give him a typewriter - he'll come up with Shakespeare.
Too much talking, like trying to get drunk on 3.2 beer...I'll get there, finally, and then throw up
Add extra bike to insurance and price goes down. Okay then
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I'm only watching this due to the Bru Time with Bruce.....
Not enjoying it, I would never consider it as a mode of transport but thanks anyway : )
Kind of insulting , hopefully you didn’t subscribe so I can spare you future dissatisfaction
Dunno part of me still thinks sh mode is better
Def lack of electricity