Chatty usually has dialogue telling us he won’t last much longer, i wonder if Iguazu and Snail have that dialogue if they end up living since we didn’t get to see it because of how fast the phase was done, it seems to depend on who is close to the worm before it does its massive AOE at the final phase.
@@HeinzBeanz2002 it seems completely random as to who is where in the arena and so who gets randomly hit by the worm when its moving around. On my S rank run of the fight I managed to do it even quicker than Yumi here because we get to use double stun needles so you can stagger shots in phase 3 to one cycle it and nobody survived despite the fact it literally did no attacks.
The spacing on the assault armor right before the sea spider was amazing. I also used a few of the routes you have from this run (the one I never saw anyone else but you do was skipping the door after rummy by going around the backside lol), but this taught me a ton! Did you route all of this yourself? If so, you are extremely skilled at routing, and even if not you're still awesome at the game. Subbed!
Other random thoughts: the initial placement for cataphract stagger was amazing haha. It's a big featureless ice sheet and you still managed to get in the perfect position.
Since I went with my unique build that nobody else was using, majority was routed myself like most of the checkpoint reloads I tested pretty much every checkpoint to see if it might be faster, fights made work with the weapons I prefer using and such. Lot of runners however come to the same conclusion one you've played a few times. Few things I didn't discover was the dialogue skip on the early destroy helicopters mission, where someone literally mentioned it in one of my older videos comment, that you can skip it and it blew my mind as I never thought you can actually avoid that dialogue. Rummy door skip was discovered on AC speedrun discord. And lastly balteus2 checkpoint skip after 4th generator I saw in a video, what confused me is that the "checkpoint reached" message doesn't appear until later but you can still reload and are on the checkpoint, which is surprising. Makes me wonder how many other checkpoints can be triggered early like that. And yes for cataphract positioning, it is just in front and little to the left of the mound of snow (its like a covered ac wreck or something), he will always come this way so easy to wait there. Anyways, glad you enjoyed the run~
@@BonesMoses there are better options on new patch for all S rank hunting and such, for speedruns you just run on old patch (don't update game). overall good patch though for casual playing, these shotguns and stun needles were way too strong~
TIP: on investigate baws arsenal #2 you can scan (and attack) the last set of enemies before going to the door before the coral pit to save a few seconds. :) to make this maybe a little clearer. the enemies are already spawned and hittable before going to the door.
Really love the manual missile aiming and the force-resetting to checkpoints. Well played! Its annoying this game doesn't have multiple save files. Was wondering what you think of allowing AC load-outs vs not. Obviously it makes it a lot smoother / quicker but it does take away from it a little bit as you have to do some setup and its not really "NG" if you get what I mean.
Yea having multiple save slots would be nice. When we were discussing speedrun rules, AC data for me was simple solution - it makes the run faster and thus is used in speedrun. As a feature indented by developers which stays even after erasing your save file, I like using it as it does not rely on any 3rd party tools or anything. And it has less menuing and more playing the actual game in the run too, making it more fun to play. But there is also a category where AC data is not allowed if you check speedrun.com. I just went with what is fastest and more fun run to me, but for people who like the menuing and such there is a competitive category too, so basically run what you have the most fun with~
Some of my favorite bits of speedruns are menuing optimizations. Plus, not using build files makes it feel like someone just downloaded the game, and that to me is a fun little fantasy
In my experience, MnK feels really good if you get your keybinds down. To me, the most awkward is assault boost(CTRL) and your shoulder weapons(Q and E). Everything else is manageable
MnK keybinds feel awful and this isn't a game of precision like an FPS. On a design level, Assault Boosting sucks on MnK and for that reason alone it'll probably never be "the best"
@@猫矢ゆみ yeah I'm trying new builds for each mission , yours is my last measure for difficult bosses . I was surprised how easy Walter was with this build , didn't even take 20 seconds . It's shocking how much difference each build makes in taking down bosses
don't worry behind the scenes there are 10 resets to helicopter randomly deciding to fly out of bounds and such, happens to everyone :) as its only 3 minutes in you can just pump it over and over until you get a decent one to start with
Something interesting I discovered in the tutorial mission, when the filtercopter initially shows up it ignores you completely even if you attack it, so there’s no actual point in hiding (: Also why not use pile bunker for sea spider fight?
you can actually get hit by the splash damage if you are near the explosions attacking the other MTs, that's the only reason to "hide" so be careful. As for pile, you don't get Basho hands that early in the game and without them the pile damage is not as high while requiring more difficult setups. I still prefer Cleaner and Spider to be done with this setup. However yes for later bosses like cataphract, raven, vespers and onwards using pile bunker, or actually chainsaw will be the optimal strategy in most cases. I just went with a simple strategy that is easy to use (just spam double trigger double bumper).
Hello, awesome video! Liked and subbed! This content has me very interested in trying out speedrunning the game. But I also very much enjoy the PvP with all the parts. Does anybody know of any way I can backup my save file, so I can regain all my progress and parts whenever I want to PvP, and still get in to this new game speedrunning? Or any way I can do these without erasing my previous save file? Is there a way to be able to do both? Thanks in advance
Yes you can backup your 100% save by just making a copy of the AC60000.sl2 file located in C:\Users\[YOUR USERNAME]\AppData\Roaming\ArmoredCore6\[YOUR STEAM ID] Then whenever you want to load that just replace the file with the one you backed up as 100% and you have your full progression. And yes, the game remembers your AC data, colors, emblems and all, even when you erase your save. It is used in speedrun to speed up the shopping and building.
@@猫矢ゆみ or if your on a console like playstation or xbox just create a whole new account because you are able to play the games that you have on your main on your new acc that way you can do whatever you want while keeping your main save safe.
WIthin a minute one way or another from the initial testing with "average" strategies. It is hard to measure exactly as there are possibilities to swap to a faster build for the fleet mission for example, but you need to then perfect the fight with low firepower (pilebunker one shot sand such, terminal armor heal skip was also a discovered bug that sometimes happens there etc). Even then I still believe that even with the most optimal strategy for each mission, this ending would be a faster thanks to some of the checkpoint skips. edit: there are now multiple strategies found that might point towards FIRES OF RAVEN being the faster run, at least until we find faster strategies in this ending. Such as the rusty terminal armor skip has been made 100% consistent and is no longer a theory.
fresh new game as you can see at the start, you can just make your ac data presets beforehand (if you know what you are going to buy) to save time going to the assembly and putting the parts on individually and such, they are saved similarly to how key config and such is saved and do not disappear when you delete your save progress.
Only few seconds as only the first 2 missions, but the RANTSETSU RF buff (over 35% more dps) did save a lot, which is the 2 rifles I buy at start. Made strider leg kill practically free fast kill.
correct, it is the norm for fromsoft games, and generally most pc games to be timed using in-game time (IGT), to make sure loading speed does not give advantage to people with more expensive hardware
You're not supposed to play like this on your first playthrough, I put solid 50 hours into the game to finish everything, all logs, S ranks and all and only then went for the speeeeeed. For me speedruns give a reason to continue playing a mechanically fun game where you have finished all the content, and AC6 is really enjoyable to control just quite short. Similarly it goes for randomizers and mods which can extend your time with a game, just making a quick new content in a way.
Pioneering AC6 speedruns
im surprised iguazu survived the ice worm, thats a real achievement there
lol I didn't even notice, usually its chatty who survives, I geuss iguazu was hiding somewhere
Chatty usually has dialogue telling us he won’t last much longer, i wonder if Iguazu and Snail have that dialogue if they end up living since we didn’t get to see it because of how fast the phase was done, it seems to depend on who is close to the worm before it does its massive AOE at the final phase.
@@HeinzBeanz2002 it seems completely random as to who is where in the arena and so who gets randomly hit by the worm when its moving around. On my S rank run of the fight I managed to do it even quicker than Yumi here because we get to use double stun needles so you can stagger shots in phase 3 to one cycle it and nobody survived despite the fact it literally did no attacks.
Incredible. The brute forced Balteus fight was clutch.
"Its behavioral pattern has changed, watch out" Yeah Ayre, it seems to be exploding 😂
I came to watch the boss abuse, you delivered
Can clearly see the improvements over the course of your runs. Well done!
1:58:38
“Make sure you don’t miss, Tourist”
“Uhh… yeah… about that…”
29:35 you can actually start scanning and kill your ambushers first in this area
Just can't overhear how 19:44 sounds like "Raven, I love you mate" if you skip through it this fast. :D
pater...
Lol I love how you have an AC save titled “date” for Ayre’s data collection mission
The spacing on the assault armor right before the sea spider was amazing. I also used a few of the routes you have from this run (the one I never saw anyone else but you do was skipping the door after rummy by going around the backside lol), but this taught me a ton!
Did you route all of this yourself? If so, you are extremely skilled at routing, and even if not you're still awesome at the game. Subbed!
Other random thoughts: the initial placement for cataphract stagger was amazing haha. It's a big featureless ice sheet and you still managed to get in the perfect position.
Since I went with my unique build that nobody else was using, majority was routed myself like most of the checkpoint reloads I tested pretty much every checkpoint to see if it might be faster, fights made work with the weapons I prefer using and such. Lot of runners however come to the same conclusion one you've played a few times. Few things I didn't discover was the dialogue skip on the early destroy helicopters mission, where someone literally mentioned it in one of my older videos comment, that you can skip it and it blew my mind as I never thought you can actually avoid that dialogue. Rummy door skip was discovered on AC speedrun discord. And lastly balteus2 checkpoint skip after 4th generator I saw in a video, what confused me is that the "checkpoint reached" message doesn't appear until later but you can still reload and are on the checkpoint, which is surprising. Makes me wonder how many other checkpoints can be triggered early like that.
And yes for cataphract positioning, it is just in front and little to the left of the mound of snow (its like a covered ac wreck or something), he will always come this way so easy to wait there.
Anyways, glad you enjoyed the run~
@@IntrusiveThot420 discord.gg/gJesRvQ ye im sure someone can help there
I wonder if your builds are still viable after the Zimmerman nerf.
@@BonesMoses there are better options on new patch for all S rank hunting and such, for speedruns you just run on old patch (don't update game).
overall good patch though for casual playing, these shotguns and stun needles were way too strong~
That Balteus fight, oh my god
beautifully done! learning a lot fomr your amazing play through!
TIP: on investigate baws arsenal #2 you can scan (and attack) the last set of enemies before going to the door before the coral pit to save a few seconds. :)
to make this maybe a little clearer. the enemies are already spawned and hittable before going to the door.
VERY NICE YUMI
Routing is amazing!
I know I'll never get a good run in - I always prefer the scenic route. LOL
Great video! You make these bosses look too easy! They aren't for me...yet! I need to use that kick feature. It made a big difference! Great run!
Yea I didn't use kick or Assault Armor on my first play and it makes a huge difference~
I like how you just stand on top of the ice worm when mitchigan tells you to get clear
素敵だわｗｗ まだまだだけど、いろんなこと教えてありがとう。ACの設定も、安くてちょ好き！！神動画！ｗｗ
ありがとう～もっと早い設定もあるけど（パイルとか）あたしのは使いやすいね～
@@猫矢ゆみ パイルは、ジムスよりも速いですか？
ところで、1:35:15 もし武器を処分すれば、ここで1.27秒も節約できる。
@@内田ガネーシュ チェーンソーは一番強いだよ～
そして、処分すことができない、NGでOSチップが足りない（１アリーナするから、2チップだけ、キック＋アサルトアーマー）
Really love the manual missile aiming and the force-resetting to checkpoints. Well played! Its annoying this game doesn't have multiple save files.
Was wondering what you think of allowing AC load-outs vs not. Obviously it makes it a lot smoother / quicker but it does take away from it a little bit as you have to do some setup and its not really "NG" if you get what I mean.
Yea having multiple save slots would be nice.
When we were discussing speedrun rules, AC data for me was simple solution - it makes the run faster and thus is used in speedrun. As a feature indented by developers which stays even after erasing your save file, I like using it as it does not rely on any 3rd party tools or anything. And it has less menuing and more playing the actual game in the run too, making it more fun to play.
But there is also a category where AC data is not allowed if you check speedrun.com. I just went with what is fastest and more fun run to me, but for people who like the menuing and such there is a competitive category too, so basically run what you have the most fun with~
Some of my favorite bits of speedruns are menuing optimizations. Plus, not using build files makes it feel like someone just downloaded the game, and that to me is a fun little fantasy
Amazing work!
Here's the kicker:
Part of me wishes the full story were speedran here, going from NG to NG++ to get the full experience
I was considering it but it would be like 6 hours long so too much in one sitting.
I think keyboard and mouse will be better for Armored Core 6 eventually. Spinning your camera around fast is very easy on mouse controls.
More importantly: Manual aim
In my experience, MnK feels really good if you get your keybinds down. To me, the most awkward is assault boost(CTRL) and your shoulder weapons(Q and E). Everything else is manageable
MnK keybinds feel awful and this isn't a game of precision like an FPS. On a design level, Assault Boosting sucks on MnK and for that reason alone it'll probably never be "the best"
@@nlm7033 You just have to do smooth prolonged movements with assault boost and bind the keys to something comfortable.
@@nlm7033 it's not even that bad once you change the keybinds. Don't use default for how wonky some keys are
Good work
Guess I need to abuse the assault boost kick way more for those S ranks lol
I didn't know that double laser cannons did so much damage.
do you keep your saved loadouts when starting a new game ?
yes but not the parts and such, so you can only use them when you can buy the parts and have enough money for it
Dude you're an A'hole for showing me this 😂
I did last 4 bosses your way . First tried all of them, I didn't even see what was their moves or guns😂
there is 2 more playthroughs to do to get all the endings~ go for more challenging builds with some of the new tech only available in ng+ and onwards
@@猫矢ゆみ yeah I'm trying new builds for each mission , yours is my last measure for difficult bosses .
I was surprised how easy Walter was with this build , didn't even take 20 seconds
. It's shocking how much difference each build makes in taking down bosses
Those are pretty huge buff on the rifles
So quick.. OuOb
Я в шоке, как он так натренировался))
Это намного проще чем кажется, прямо намного
Awesome!
I have never had the PCA chopper be as cooperative in the first mission as that (╥﹏╥)
don't worry behind the scenes there are 10 resets to helicopter randomly deciding to fly out of bounds and such, happens to everyone :) as its only 3 minutes in you can just pump it over and over until you get a decent one to start with
Something interesting I discovered in the tutorial mission, when the filtercopter initially shows up it ignores you completely even if you attack it, so there’s no actual point in hiding (:
Also why not use pile bunker for sea spider fight?
you can actually get hit by the splash damage if you are near the explosions attacking the other MTs, that's the only reason to "hide" so be careful.
As for pile, you don't get Basho hands that early in the game and without them the pile damage is not as high while requiring more difficult setups. I still prefer Cleaner and Spider to be done with this setup. However yes for later bosses like cataphract, raven, vespers and onwards using pile bunker, or actually chainsaw will be the optimal strategy in most cases. I just went with a simple strategy that is easy to use (just spam double trigger double bumper).
Didn’t know you could use presaved AC data on a new pilot run.
レーザーキャノンとワーム砲だとどっちがDPS高いです?
ワーム砲は攻撃力は高いですけど1発ごとにリロードが必要なのが難点なように感じたんですが
たしかにレーザーの最初の3/4攻撃つよいけど、OVERLOADになればDPS↓
ワームはただのリロードから、使いやすい…そしてワームのダイレクトヒット225から、スタッガーでACをワンパンできる～
（これは1.03バージョンまでだけ、1.03.1アプデ後でワームはゴミになった、レーザーショットガンVP-60LCD使って）
1:16:56 COMBINATION ATTACK!
This just made me realize how much I suck at this game. 🤣
Hello, awesome video! Liked and subbed!
This content has me very interested in trying out speedrunning the game. But I also very much enjoy the PvP with all the parts. Does anybody know of any way I can backup my save file, so I can regain all my progress and parts whenever I want to PvP, and still get in to this new game speedrunning? Or any way I can do these without erasing my previous save file? Is there a way to be able to do both?
Thanks in advance
Oh wow, but even thought you deleted your save file, it kept the save data for loadouts huh? That's really interesting.
Yes you can backup your 100% save by just making a copy of the AC60000.sl2 file located in C:\Users\[YOUR USERNAME]\AppData\Roaming\ArmoredCore6\[YOUR STEAM ID]
Then whenever you want to load that just replace the file with the one you backed up as 100% and you have your full progression.
And yes, the game remembers your AC data, colors, emblems and all, even when you erase your save. It is used in speedrun to speed up the shopping and building.
@@猫矢ゆみ or if your on a console like playstation or xbox just create a whole new account because you are able to play the games that you have on your main on your new acc that way you can do whatever you want while keeping your main save safe.
This really shows how overtuned zimmermans and needle launcher. It's really good as last resort to boss, but make it too easy.
Wowie congrats
I'm curuous - how faster/slower the other ending is?
WIthin a minute one way or another from the initial testing with "average" strategies. It is hard to measure exactly as there are possibilities to swap to a faster build for the fleet mission for example, but you need to then perfect the fight with low firepower (pilebunker one shot sand such, terminal armor heal skip was also a discovered bug that sometimes happens there etc). Even then I still believe that even with the most optimal strategy for each mission, this ending would be a faster thanks to some of the checkpoint skips.
edit: there are now multiple strategies found that might point towards FIRES OF RAVEN being the faster run, at least until we find faster strategies in this ending. Such as the rusty terminal armor skip has been made 100% consistent and is no longer a theory.
wait, so is this from a fresh new game or a new game+?
fresh new game as you can see at the start, you can just make your ac data presets beforehand (if you know what you are going to buy) to save time going to the assembly and putting the parts on individually and such, they are saved similarly to how key config and such is saved and do not disappear when you delete your save progress.
hugee
ダブルショットガンとレーザーキャノンでそんな早く撃墜できるんか、知らなかった
This game is so fast if you watch it on 480 you don't see anything. everything is become blur.
guessing those turnner buffs really speed up the tutorial?
Only few seconds as only the first 2 missions, but the RANTSETSU RF buff (over 35% more dps) did save a lot, which is the 2 rifles I buy at start. Made strider leg kill practically free fast kill.
In their time. It was like maybe several weeks and such. For 621?... give em less than two hours
im 27 hours in and still at chapter 4 LOL
balls to the walls
Wow...
Anyone else having a hard time watching this video at 1080p?
... what is that damage...
old patch shotguns :) although they are still quite strong
Ah I see you don't count load screens.
correct, it is the norm for fromsoft games, and generally most pc games to be timed using in-game time (IGT), to make sure loading speed does not give advantage to people with more expensive hardware
speed runs really annoy me. Feels like it just takes the fun out of everything
You're not supposed to play like this on your first playthrough, I put solid 50 hours into the game to finish everything, all logs, S ranks and all and only then went for the speeeeeed.
For me speedruns give a reason to continue playing a mechanically fun game where you have finished all the content, and AC6 is really enjoyable to control just quite short. Similarly it goes for randomizers and mods which can extend your time with a game, just making a quick new content in a way.
This game looks insanely boring and having that guy talking to you the entire time would make me never play this
this is the kind of shit you love to see