Soul Hackers 2: Atlus' New Persona-Lite Has Major Tech Issues
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- Опубликовано: 7 авг 2024
- Atlus is celebrated for its Persona titles and Soul Hackers 2 follows in a similar vein - but the problem is that the unambitious technology and cut 'n' paste dungeons really let the game down. And as for the last-gen consoles? The outlook is bleak.
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For anyone playing Soul Hackers 2: You can DRASTICALLY reduce the loading times by just going into the options and switching load screen hints to "Display (Button advance)". After that the loading times are nearly instant! I am surprised they didn't mention that in the video, because the game has a lot (!) of loading screens and all are 10 seconds long.
Horizon forbidden west also has this option. Weird to hide the option in menus
Thanks for the hint. Those loading times were feeling awfully long for a new console game.
This is insane, thanks for mentioning this!
@@NaokiSummoner Atlus should directly mention it in the screen hints. I have no clue why they don't do this.
Thank you! I thought it had really long loadings for such "simple" game running on SSDs.
Physics being tied to framerate means they specifically went against how unity is designed. The whole engine is built around using a fixed timestep for physics and they managed to go outside of that. Even if your not using the fixed timestep they have delta time(time between frames) so you can avoid this problem. Unity also has interpolation for the purpose of ensuring that physics are not choppy even when the fixed timestep is low. This actually is kinda baffling because most of the time I had assumed that developers still did this because their in house engines were built that way but that literally is not the case. I just can't make sense of it.
Maybe it helps prevent pirating/modding? I have no idea either lol
Doesn't every unity game slow down below 30 fps?
@@siceastwood2714 DUSK begs to differ.
@@Riptitde777 not at all relevant to prevention of pirating/modding
@@Riptitde777 it was the standard in the early 2010s. My guess would be, they tried to use Unity the way they used their proprietary ancient engine
You can tell this wasn't made by the same team that worked on SMT V.
SH 2's development started sometime during SMT V's if I remember. And not long after SMT V's release, SH 2 was already teased.
They should've delayed the game to polish it
@@Makusensu As much as I love SMT V. The game's story is non-existent and a lot of the characters aren't memorable compared to SH 2 and P5. And this is coming from someone who isn't a big fan of P5.
Despite SH 2's current state, it really isn't a bad MegaTen game. I just wish that they could've delayed it to make it better than it is now.
@@CrimsonFrenchie
Disagree there sh 2 is very forgettable and nowhere near SMTV. This is eaily the worst of the newer atlus games hence the general public calling it mid. It’s hot garbage compared to the first SH game.
@@ghostofhallownest5300 To each their own.
@@ghostofhallownest5300 nah, if SH2 was garbage people would act like what they did with IVA but worse. SH2 is mid for most, wich means barely any hate, just lack of interest.
It's not exactly a mystery how this happened: It's Atlus. They develop their current game for one machine (in this case, PS4 basic) and then every other version that gets released either simultaneously or afterward is just an afterthought.
so another win for the Playstation. i'm honestly bored at this point.
@@crust5909 You really console wars circlejerking yourself over a studio having poor optimization?
In this case, the Xbox/PC ports were outsourced to ArtDink, who probably didn't even have the budget to properly optimize it for those systems.
Glad you guys are covering this game! Are you guys gonna cover Persona 5 Royal’s ports come October?
Well they have to do now.
I really hope they do
They 100% were going to if there's anything to talk about. If it's locked 30fps at 1080p on switch and locked 4k60 on next gen probably not though lol
@@iKickBullies Switch is 720p from my understanding, this is due to them getting the game to a 12.3GB file size. Handheld while I'm unsure seems to be 720x640 though again we still need to see the actual footage to confirm. I'm expecting Royal will run fine but will have slower loading times than PS4 and likely have audio compression issues.
@@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective The switch is only 720p on handheld mode but 1080p dock
One problem I have noticed on PS5 is that when you resume an activity from the cards it changes the game language back to english even if you have Japanese selected and saved as that lol
Atlus has long been in need of a solid tech upgrade, and I like their games.
They seem to had something going with UE4 with SMTV but seems to went flat with Unity for SH2. Technical problems and lack of resources and time more likely. Especially how basic the hallways dungeons seems to be.
UE4 does seem to be doing good for them after checking p3r
“Persona-lite” it’s literally part of the devil summoner franchise… why can’t Atlus make anything besides persona and people respect it? (Not talking about performance or quality of your great video just the title)
because it's not on persona's level
@@lolcat calling this a persona lite is like calling splatoon a mario like. Or dragon quest a final fantasy like, games made by the dame developer/publisher aren't going to always be like other ganes they make.
Let's be honest here they DID took away the Devil Summoner title, so people unfamiliar with the series already are not gonna know where it's placed.
they took away the devil summoner title my dude, soul hackers 2 barely has anything in common with the first game to begin with. it totally makes sense to call it persona-lite considering it has very little with the original material it's supposed to be inspired from.
Not on persona’s level? You should HOPE not, persona hasn’t been good since 2
Performance issues aside, the lack of design ambition here vs. what they did with SMT V on vastly weaker hardware is really disappointing.
Disagree. I like traditional dungeons better than the nondungeons found in SMTV, so I think ambition worked against that game.
@@captainthunderbolt7541 Nah man I disagree, this "classic" dungeon design in SH 2 is lacking in both variety and creativity. I'm basically paying 60 dollars for an SMT 1 and 2 dungeons lol. Hell, even dungeons in SMT If and SJ had more creativity to it than this game. At least in SMT V Atlus experimented with the open areas, for better or worse.
I really liked SH 2 artsyle and characters, but the boring dungeons really killed this game for me and that's disappointing.
@@captainthunderbolt7541 in SMTV’s defense, it also had an “open” world with more interesting level design and far more satisfying movement
Even if the dungeons sucked in SMTV, you can sprint through them and there was at least some verticality
The same really can’t be said for SH2
@@nhall129 Not to mention, SMT V only has like 2 dungeons and they are fairly short, plus the fixed enemy placement make a unique challenge on it's own vs SH 2 enemies that randomly appears.
@@geebon5850 well if you have estoma you can run right through the enemies anyway. I think the first dungeon was okay but the second one was terrible
If you go back through Atlus’ releases from 2019 onwards you can notice why they chose to use Unity as the game engine. They made the decision because Atlus is moving away from their clunky proprietary engines and adopting mainstream engines like Unity and UE.
Sadly though due to this game’s lack of manpower and budget they probably couldn’t get the engineers who worked on SMT 5 with UE4 experience to help with this project, so they went with Unity.
Unfortunately their only past experience of Unity was with the SMT 3 remaster, which was also a technical disaster.
So in the end, Atlus didn’t give the team the budget this team needed for the amount of firsts for the studio there was:
First time they got to use new rendering tech without dealing with the hardware limitations of the switch, first game on next-gen, first game since 2014 on Xbox, First new release launched on PC the same day as the console version in Japan and first new release built in Unity.
Nocturne remaster was actually outsourced to a company called Imaginative Technology Land
Thanks for the comment. I wanted to make a similar one. Given the results in this video, it seems like they didn't give the engineers here enough time to find their feet, let alone code the game at all effeciently. Hats off to them for actually making a working game tbh, lol :/
A buddy of mine was hired by a Japanese dev to teach them how to develop for unity, and it did not go well
@@techno-- I’m quite surprised I never found out about this, Especially given the Atlus’ history of outsourcing smaller projects, but this makes more sense to why they didn’t learn from their mistakes in that game.
SMT 3 Nocturne HD Remaster was outsourced, not made by Atlus. That is why is disaster.
The Xbox and PC versions were ported by Preapp Partners, who also did the Persona 4 Golden PC port.
I wonder what the exact budget for this game is. Because it's announced out of nowhere in between SMT 5, and Persona 5 Royal PC release. So they had to be exceptionally conservative with their spending for this game.
Feels like they wanted to try out unity and shot for complete multiplatform approach and just failed so hard they couldn't get it running on the switch.
I don't think games like this that use NPR (Non Photorealistic Rendering) techniques need PBR materials for the environments, and in fact, I think that using them can create a disconnection between the characters and the rest of the scene and end up looking weird.
That being said it is clear that the environments here are not the star of the show and look very dated. Even these simple assets could look decent with good lighting and post processing, but as it's pointed out in the video, those are very basic too.
As someone how makes 3d environments, it pains me to see them be second class citizens, the dungeons could look pretty sick with some GI and more emissive surfaces, given the aesthetic of the game.
Same, I work on NPR shaders and materials and it's painful to see.
I mean Persona 5 Strikers has PBR as far as I can tell, and it looked quite good. I was happy playing the game with more modern graphics.
That said, this fact is probably the only plus point over Persona 5 / Royal.
It's pretty clear, that Atlus Tech approach is simply outdated. Even if it was just an artistic choice, the game should run WAAAY better on all plattforms.
It feels like, they just used their Tech for P5R from 2016/2017 and made Soul Hackers 2. (I don't know which engine P5R was built in, but I just want to illustrate the point)
@@TheNerd Royal was built with the same engine as the standard Persona 5, which itself was built on the engine that was introduced in Catherine back in 2010. It does look like Atlus tried to use their development techniques on Unity like with their proprietary engine to mixed results. I do wonder how Soul Hackers would of turned out if they used Unreal Engine 4 like with SMTV.
@@ramiking745 Not really. The OG version of Catherine uses Gamebryo, different from Persona 5's and possibly the remaster version. (Who knows if they went Creation Engine route with Gamebryo).
I have to disagree that NPR characters don't mix well with PBR environments.
...if you mention even with additional post process work, like color grading and selective painterly effect.
Is it weird that I watched this video and now I'm more interested in the game than I was before? I came for the evisceration of (seemingly) poorly managed system optimisation, but some of the talk about the game's content itself seems interesting.
It's a good game.
@@captainthunderbolt7541 It's got a decent story, gameplay is satisfying to be fair.
The game is actually good. Not a masterpiece or something, but def above your average JRPG that was shat out
Also, this is not a knock on pretty much every Megaten game, but Soul Hackers 2 is the game in recent memory, to have a talking Protagonist with a Canon name. That's gotta stand for something, right?
inb4 someone brings up a side game like Devil Survivor or something of that sort. Not sure if that even had a talking Protagonist.
It's fun, I've been enjoying it.
playing it on PC and it's been running super well at 1080p 120fps. Some problems with multi-monitor though, it insists on launching on my laptop display instead of the external (default) monitor.
Whoa... Could this be the lowest frame-rate non-indie last gen release?
You cannot fathom how much of an insult that video title is.
Thank you for covering ATLUS games! ❤️
Virgin Atlus Multiplatform Vs. Chad Atlus Switch Game
I think the problem is that this is CLEARLY a low budget game, meanwhile P5 or SMTV are AAA games. I'm pretty sure this game wasn't even made by the same Atlus team that made SMTV or P-Studio
it wasnt, its the same team than for tokyo mirage session... but TMS was way better than that even on wii u on a technical level... this is some next level poor optimization.
Is SMTV considered a AAA game? I dont really see some crazy jump in game design / cutscenes from this game to that one (not necessarily fidelity or framerate since Soul Hackers is running on PC and PS5/Series X). Seems pretty on par if thats the baseline
@@PantsaBear remember, smtv is running on an underpowered ancient tablet processor.
@@PantsaBear it is indeed a AAA game. It had a big budget, and for a Switch game, it's impressive, specially if you consider that SMTV was developed on Unreal Engine 4
@Shin-Nioh SMTV has a potato resolution and terrible framerate, so it probably should have had a more simplistic graphical design.
I really liked the discussion of the tech performance, just don't like the clickbait title.
Exactly man I was thinking about this myself…. Not every Atlus title HAS to have something to do with persona! This is Devil summoner not persona! Love your content Larrue nice to see you here!
Totally disappointed as well, expected a little better from Digital Foundry.
@@Rapier14 same as I did. Hopefully people will respect other Atlus ip more in the future I’d say the tone towards them is disappointing. I mean “Persona Lite” are you kidding me ??
@@JNCGaming We've been hearing the Persona comparisons by game journos since what SMT IV? I don't think much will change to be honest.
@@Rapier14 your right
Looks like the xbox versions were an afterthought, I guess globally and in Japan it make sense to prioritise PS for launch, but I hope they can optimise xbox a bit more.
I was thinking the same. It could also be that they're not familiar with the hardware yet. It is after all their first Xbox title in 8 years (I think).
Or wildly more. Like, at all whatsoever to start with lol.
It seems like the game didn't do that well in Japan compared to other RPGs like Xenoblade 3, Live-A-Live and Shin Megami Tensei V. Don't know if international sales can save the game, not to mention I really doubt Atlus will port the game to the Switch later like they did with P3, P4 and P5
Just wait for the tools
Damn that framerate is lower than my grades
How is it that the same team behind Tokyo Mirage Sessions made a game that performs technologically worse than the game they made on the Wii U?
The engine, it deems they went for a multiplatform engine and failed
sticky mouth
Lol
Why are last gen consoles struggling to run this? The shaders don't seem complex & the models are low poly.
Soul hackers 2 on all other platforms other than PlayStation was handled by a 3rd party port company. Hence why the disparaging difference across platforms.
I never expected Digital Foundry to make a video covering Soul Hackers 2. Rad!
Strange performance issues, in my pc ryzen 3600x + rtx 2060 I'm running at 4k60 most of the time (I can run above 200 fps in 1080p, but the game has physics tied to framerate)
Yeah I was really looking forward to seeing DF's analysis on that but then this video is purely about consoles :(
Japanese games and physics tied to the framerate.
Name a more iconic duo
Yes, a very Atlus thing to do. You can always note that they are new to PC ports when they link systems to Framerate.
Why would you want to run this at high ass frame rates. You just want to make your pc run harder for no reason? It's an RPG that's turn base lol. Shit makes no sense to me. So any explanation to clear up my confusion, is welcomed.
@@Voidsway because you still move the character around outside of combat and it feels nicer to do that higher framerates...
I didn’t expect this 👀
5 fps on Xbox S ? Jesus Christ.
This game being more persona like upsets me haha. I miss the old artist
A lot about this project screams a bit of overscope and a hastened development time - especially if they left their dungeon assets looking so bland. A bit of a shame, hopefully it’s not an indication of Persona 6’s production.
Lol, it's definitely not indicative of the next Persona's quality, Persona is arguably Atlus biggest franchise at the moment, also have you seen P5, it still looks amazing and it came out in 2016. This game had a much smaller budget than Persona.
It's being done by a C or D team at Atlus. The same ones who made Tokyo Mirage Sessions. They are too provisional theres not even an art director or composer on the team, although the art direction and music composition by outsourced artists Shirow Mina and Monaca respectively, are commendable.
That's the shit I hate the most alongside micro stutters lmfao
Every time I hear a competently made game (like this one) was created using Unity3D, I'm in shock. It doesn't matter how many times it happens, I'm always baffled. It always feels like the developers were caught with their pants down, despite the constantly highlighted quality the engine has.
Why developers don't do their best to highlight their amazing game was made in Unity to offset the reputation is strange, as well. Like, my brother in Christ: you chose the game engine - you should at least be proud enough of that fact to share it with the rest of us
A lot of people don't know Genshin Impact was made in Unity.
this really doesn't feel like a competently made game considering it drops to 15fps on last gen
Unity can be good, but most of the issue is Unity. There's a reason most games made in Unity either run bad or have to be siimplified. It's a good engine to get work done. But clearly not great for optimization. Can it be? Obviously, but this showcases exactly what Atlus was talking about years ago with Persona. They would rather make a game and focus on 1 platform so they can make sure they create the best game possible. Porting later is a whole different thing. But for example, the PS4 and PS5 versions were clearly the only versions they optimized at all. If they cut the Xbox versions they'd have had more time to optimize it and it would have likely had the porting budget to add a bit more to the game. But at first I didn't understand why they didn't just use P5's engine because Royal 100% looks better as a PS4 title that was a rerelease of a PS3/4 title. And basically runs better. But it's Unity. Unity almost always uses more for less and I never really understood why. But it is what it is .
Guess this is what happens when atlus gives a smaller budget to a game. Game itself is really fun. Not no persona or anything levels of good. But it differentiates itself once you're actually playing quite a bit. Doesn't feel like persona surprisingly. Feels like its own thing which is great. Also surprised by the performance issues since I use PS5, Originally Graphics was no issues and now in performance I didn't even notice battle slowdowns because the alpha slowdowns in games is so common it looks like it's intentional at this point in gaming lol
"i love when cheap pay to win mobile games greet me with the "Made in Unity" logo, really makes me appreciate the engine and helps to build up its reputation" /s
@@iKickBullies Turn based games are naturally resistant to slowdown, since most slowdown occurs in sections of the game where the player can't really feel it.
I've been playing on Series X, and my only complaint about optimisation is that there is no excuse for a game like this to load so slowly from an SSD.
Megaten never beating the “persona with out the heart” allegations lol
Finished it today. Yes, it has some flaws, but if you like SMT and Persona you will like this game too. It's NOT a bad game.
Great review, the reviewer knew what he was talking about. Just don't call it Persona-lite... please..
How about I call YOU Persona-lite! Bahahahaha!
@@richardwilliams877 how about we call persona SMT-Lite hahahaha 🙃
@@DIEFORME173 I think the more complicated the better on this one 🤣🤣
@@richardwilliams877 🤷🏾
PSA: The game has a Game Trial (demo) available for it on PS+. For some reason, PS+ continues to not correctly show all available Game Trials when sorting by it, and the subreddit loves to bury any mention of games with available trials.
I'm really glad you guys decided to take a look at this game! I'm still on the fence but I love Atlus games so I'll probably buy it after some patches
The game is pretty good imo. This is a full blown dungeon crawler, so expect to spend 90% time in there.
It's a good game but it's not on the scale of smt5 or persona 5. If you enjoy ps2 era atlus or even Tokyo mirage sessions you'll enjoy this but it's not a big leap forward like other recent atlus stuff
The game is already fairly solid on Series X and PS5, so if you have either of those consoles then you don't really have to wait.
@@matiTEVE i doubt it’ll get any patches. The one we got at launch will probably be the only one.
🤦♂️ Calling it "Persona lite" is a misnomer. The only relation is both are Megami Tensei Spin offs.
I will say the PC version runs better and look better than all these options from what I've seen. Higher resolutions do help with the lack of aliasing, even though the actual AA option on PC appears to do very little. If you don't have a 4k monitor but have AMD you can turn on virtual super resolution to force 4k in the game's engine to basically force on super sampling, which is what I did.
Anti Aliasing on PC also doesnt work for this game, you can turn it on or off and it makes no difference.
Looks likke a beefed up PS2 game running at a high resolution.
You titled the video that specifically for outrage clicks, didn’t you.
game was probably a test to see demand for Megaten games outside of Mainline and Persona
Physics issue? But this is not an action game. Enemies won't run faster on 144fps. The real issue is that there is no option to turn off chromatic aberration, and plays like 1998 JRPG.
since it has denuvo it's a easy skip for me anyway :D
Not every games released by Atlus are big budget AAA titles, especially since this Soul Hackers is just the 2nd of this branched off series from SMT. Maybe the reason for the basic dungeon designs is them thinking that since current players have no complains about the basic repetitive dungeons on Persona 4 Golden and Persona 3, they would just continue with the same path
@@matiTEVE I haven't have a chance to play Persona 5 yet (but definitely will get the Switch version) so I don't know much about its dungeon design yet. But having played SMT V, I didn't see Atlus is changing their way anytime soon with the basic repeatitive dungeon designs. It seems that Persona 5 is the exception among SMT franchise.
Omg you actually covered it :D
Edit: one thing you didn’t mention, it’s that the game in Xbox one S seems to run at 60fps at times during combat, specially in enemy turns and sabbat attacks.
Not bad but we know they can do better, thats a really effective style visually. I get the criticism thought, when the engine can do much better for a bit more effort and already being super heavy without even AA.
"How long have you waited for a sequel?" I'm a Homeworld fan! so I know the pain XD
Im pretty sure no one remembers the sega saturn version and probably played the nintendo 3ds version instead
Persona lite ffs 🤦♂️
If it was free, I still wouldn't spend my time.
Looks like a stop gap until their next big release. Small budget, small side project (perhaps a passion project for certain long term staff) but lacking the real focus it should have been given. Which is a shame, it means this particular offshoot will likely never get additional games (or if they do it'll be relegated to similar quality or lesser).
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Great review of the game. I wonder how this stacks against say, their original cross-generational P5 release (Ps3 and Ps4) way back when. Back then P5 ran at a noticeable lower rez but performed...*decent* but hitchy.
An ancient ATI HD 5770 is the PC minimum so it should really run fine on last gen. I like the look of the game though!
Looking at the Shin Megami Tensei for Nintendo Switch... I've always had the feeling that for devs and 3d artist must be kinda sad that your art gets compressed and presented at 480p or 720p at best in 2022. 😮💨
The base xbox one performance is abysmal, how did that even pass? Makes me wonder if a switch version would be possible if atlus themselves worked on it and just lowered the resolution to 720p.
The performance almost makes me glad I cancelled my pre-order for the Xbox version of the game.
@@GenerationZ313 shame because I want more atlus games on Xbox but not half assed ports. They should have never released it in this state.
what about PS4 (pro) on PS5 ?
Does it fix the issues ?
1080p on base xbox one? Are they crazy?
The games graphics really look like a mix of Astral Chain and Tokyo Mirage Encore....with those games I could kinda understand bec of them being released on Switch and more closer to the launch of the console. This one is a big head scratcher for me and I dont think thats okay for the target platforms...maybe there was a lack of fund for further optimization OR a weaker dev team worked on this...sad either way. Definetly not worth 50 or 60€ to me
Does anyone know if the PS4 version hits a stable 60fps when running on a PS5?
Yes
@@annabeldomenech4806 Thanks, you are a saint
Please don't call this a persona-lite Jesus Christ lmao
Will you include Steam Deck in these videos, please?
It’s not persona light soul hackers came out a long time ago
They made their Unreal Engine 4 game a Switch exclusive, and their Unity game on every console but the Switch. I really don't get Atlus' thinking sometimes.
I don’t really mind the copy past dungeons, I got used to those from persona 4
No steam deck? Sadness :(
Considering how well it runs on pc, I really thought the consoles version would be fine. Strange.
That’s tragic what they did to ONE S
Wow what a surprise!
After seeing that god awful performance on One S makes not want a Switch version. Like, they thought that was acceptable.
I really do wish more Japanese titles make their way to the Xbox family of consoles, but not as an afterthought.
So running the PS4 version on a PS5 should lock that to 30FPS perfectly?
If Atlas have an in-house engine, why the sudden switch to Unity? Especially when they clearly don't have a firm grasp on it. Having to cap the frame-rate to 30 at those resolutions on 9th gen hardware is a joke. I swear I've seen PS3 games that look and run better with the resolution being the main concession.
I think smtv used unreal, so they seem to be testing out engines, probably aren't big enough to keep updating their own engine, specially if they want to go multiplatform.
They used unity for the smt 3 remaster and I’m pretty sure that ran poorly as well
@@butterflydreamer9649 unity should not be used by non indie devs, its meant to be easy, not to perform decently
Damn they really just called it Persona-Lite didn't they...
Can you guys review Destroy all humans 2?
Can you guys do a video on the Sony Inzone M9 please
"persona-lite" for frecks sake....
Can't speak for the consoles, but imagine they're running in parity with PC. Under the hood things are 540p, completely forward-rendered with no MSAA. They might as well be using D3D9, if they were driver-forced anti-aliasing would be a thing.
I'm surprised it struggles so much on even current gen hardware. My system although very powerful (R7 5800X, 3080TI) runs at 1440p 144 fps is only using the GPU at 40% and barely touching the CPU. Halfling the power of my GPU down to console you would still expect an easy locked 4K 60. Is this just a bad console port? and if so is Unity to blame?
You can get 144fps at 1440p but not a locked 4K 60? I've a similar setup and a 6800xt setup but don't think I'm going to get the game until there's a sale maybe.
Bad port. It's baffling that a turn based rpg, specially one as simplistic as this. Can't even reach 60 fps at 4k.
Atlus has always been incompetent at handling ports.
@@sirlimen333 If it was a "bad port" problem, we could expect it to run well on its intended platform. But here it seems to run badly everywhere with just a little bit more care in optimizing for PlayStation. But it still run badly there too.
@@TerraWare No you're reading my comment wrong. I'm saying considering the performance of my 3080 TI and how much headroom it has i'm surprised the consoles can't lock at 4K 60. Of course I can hit 4K 60 with ease with my GPU.
@@HalfpennyTerwilliger That's the thing, it runs badly everywhere except on PC. If I was to take my old 2070 Super (close to console performance) out of my sons PC I have a feeling it would lock on to 4K 60. May check it out when he's at school tomorrow. My 3080TI isn't even at 50% use at 1440p 144fps and it is more or less doubled performance of my old 2070S. I'm confident I could hit 4K 120 so that's where my thinking is.
Chonky curves, this isn't a benefit?
“Persona-lite” is one of the cringiest descriptions I’ve read for the game, smh
"Like Persona without the Heart" was a description for SMT lol
@@nicholassimmons5318 i would argue that's an accurate description for a storyless rehash of nocturne like smt v lol
Breh... did they really show a spoiler for the game at 9:30?
Not a spoiler. Literally the first 30 minutes of the game.
@@Kekorock1 I mean still somewhat of a spoiler for folks who want to experience it on there own.
@@soulreaperx7x it's really not though.
@@ZeniusFox ok.
Great video thanks!
I want Digital Devil Saga 3
12:58 Ported to Windows and Xbox One by Artdink. That is why the Xbox One version is so bad, outsourced
>no HDRP
good on them, that pipeline is dogshit
Oh no no
Wait, it's Atlus, of course it has tech issues haha. Good video
No support for PS4 Pro? That's a real shame, and another reason why I hope DF is right about there not being a PS5 Pro, as the PS4 Pro is still terribly undersuppported/utilized.
It's the PS Vita of home consoles.
So is soul hackers closer to persons or smt? i thought most smt spinoffs were closer to smt than persona.
Technically you right, most SMT spin-offs are closer to SMT (Persona 1 & 2, Devil Summoner, Soul Hackers 1, Devil Survivor 1, Digital Devil Saga 1 & 2, Raidou 1 & especially Raidou 2, Demikids, Majin Tensei 1 & 2), but some are closer to Persona 3-5, and unfortunalety all of them are newest spin-offs from same developer (Devil Survivor 2, Soul Hackers 2, Tokio Mirrage Sessions). There is no SMT spin-off closer to SMT than Persona, since Devil Survivor 1 (2009, and in this year Kazuma Kaneko left Atlus and made own last game - Strange Journey, after that Atlus took generic anime route, except maybe SMT IV).
@@nr2676 out if the small amount if games I've played Tokyo mirage, smt4, p3p and devil survivor, I find devil survivor to be a perfect mix of good combat system with good party building and good story line and it's a super fast play/replay. i found the party building in P3 to be almost non existing and the story of smt4 to be quite poor.
@@AntonioCardenasT story in smt 4 is great but have one big problem - how bad Law and Chaos Alignment was portrated (game force you to be a neutral, and Law / Chaos Ending in SMT IV / SMT IV Apo feels like a bad endings). the perfect mix with great story and good gameplay is also Digital Devil Saga (if you like classic jrpg's like Final Fantasy X) and Strange Journey (if you like classic dungeon crawling). And i agree, SRPG genre fits very well with SMT mechanics.
so, it's persona 5 without the soul?
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Makes even less sense that this isn’t on switch when persona 5 will be soon. And especially when seeing how good SMT V looks compared to this. Seems like it is badly optimized.
SMT V barely functions on Switch, so given how badly this game runs on more powerful hardware, it's no surprise the Switch version didn't happen. There must be some serious spaghetti code in this game.
@@JamesThomasJeans It actually runs and looks better than soul hackers on base xbox one. At least SMT V tried to be somewhat ambitious.
Atlus is still stuck in the PS3 era in terms of graphics.
Did DF really delete my comment because I pointed out that all this guy did was moan about everything? Yes, yes they did... How petty
Still enjoying the game but after xeno blade 3 content in sh2 is limited well more other smt spin-off the better I would like to see a new digital devil saga.
what about the pc version?
Easy to run even on older/lower end hardware, but has typical Denuvo issues and physics can get funky past 60fps
To me it seems like someone else ported the game to Xbox consoles while it was developed specifically for PS4/5. Not only performance is way inferior on Xboxes but also those resolution and fps uncap decisions are too weird.
Turn off the tips and game loads in like 1-3 seconds. I had tons fun with it and am working on my second playthrough it right now. It is satisfying to pull off like 6 stacks+ on a boss when you have the right set up and they just take that big extra chunk of damage at the end of the turn. Played it on my Xbox Series X.
“Persona-lite” 😐😐
Played it 2 times on PS5 Performance mode and it was great ! 😃