Should Christians practise Yoga? Mike Shreve & Chris James
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Two former high-level Yoga practitioners, Mike Shreve and Chris James, tell their stories of converting to Christianity and engage the question of whether Christians should practise Yoga.
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You should bring on Rabi Maharaj. He’s a former Yogi from Varanasi, India who converted to Christianity. He later authored the book “Death of a guru” which is a must read especially if you’re into new age spirituality. There’s no one who can talk more authoritatively about Yoga/Christianity than him.
Just read his testimony, it’s on pdf online, quite a remarkable transformation. God doesn’t hide his face from anyone seeking for Him.
You've got it wrong on several counts. He was not a former Yogi. He is not from Varanasi; he is from Trinidad.
@@rnjan99 Wikipedia exists. Look it up.
@@rnjan99
I do see that’s he’s from Trinidad and has a wonderful story.
You are right. That is a wonderful book, though it is presently out of print. Used copies are probably still available on Amazon.
“But I will sing of Your power; Yes, I will sing aloud of Your mercy in the morning; For You have been my defense And refuge in the day of my trouble.”Psalms 59:16
"But I shall sing of Your strength, and chant gladly each morning Your kindness. For You were a fortress for me, a haven when I was in straits." (per Robert Alter's translation)
Whoa!!! This was AWESOME. I didn't want it to end 😆. Praise The Lord for the truth!!! Thank you for sharing. I will definitely forward this to others.
All Glory to Our Lord Jesus Christ.
This was a much more helpful discussion on this topic than other Christian discussions I've listened to. Appreciated the delineations of various kinds of yoga and their potential impacts and avoiding lumping everything together as totally demonic and leaving no room for a purely physical, therapeutic practice. Great points raised about public practice vs private with respect to 1 Cor 8.
I loved, loved yoga and believed I could do it only as exercise, based on what Paul says in 1 Corinthians 8. But last year I was praying a lot about it and kept doubting my own beliefs. Then one night, after doing lots of yoga to calm down my 2020 fears, I went to bed and had the scariest sleep paralysis experience - half awake, my eyes half open, I could see a purple light on my wall and feel a weight on my hip while I couldn't move. I couldn't say anything, but in my mind said the name of Jesus, and it all disappeared. It was the last time ever I did yoga. Even if someone convinced me otherwise, I would be too traumatised. Pilates for me. I don't need all that stuff. Jesus is my joy.
Absolute delusions
@@colindooley4422 Then I guess you’re also accusing Mike Shreve here of being delusional.
As well as every form of spiritual experience anybody else ever has.
"Totally madness 🤕. .. "the big joke here is all these religion are from the east .. 3 out of the sand dunes middle-east & the rest from far,far east! .. Yoga is Satanism 🤡 ?? .. from India and so on ..mind you in islam Yoga carriers the death- penalty especially in pakistan 👿🇵🇰..
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Ive had similar experiences ... the 1st was when i was woken from a dream and in the dream said i cant talk to X because hes into TM and astral projection and they are demonic ... paralysis panic difficulty thinking ...i spelt the name of Jesus in my thoughts as i couldn't say it n the force paralysing me left
Thank you for sharing this interesting conversation!
I am an evangelical follower of Christ. Former Hindu. Learned yoga while in India.
I respect what these gentlemen have to say about their doubts and fears and wanting to avoid yoga. For me, however, it is wonderful. It has done me a world of good physically, mentally, and spiritually.
Should Christians drink alcohol? Should Christian women wear hats and keep "silent" as indicated in the Bible? Many of their own fears, bad experiences and prejudices. I declare that we should not judge others because of our own personal bad experiences.
Mindfulness is Buddhist meditation. I did it for 12 years as a New Ager who was into Zen Buddhism. It is a spiritual technique although it's presented as secular.
Well, as one of the two gentlemen said in this interview, it's all about certain poses, mantra's and sayings. I practice the Wim Hof method; breathing exercises + cold showers. During the breathing exercises I just sit on my couch breathing deep and regularly. There's no spiritual about that.
@@ReligieVrij It really depends on what you mean by "spirituality". It's definitely not religious in the western, Protestant sense.
Very interesting discussion.. thank you.
On mindful meditation, or emptying the mind… why do you do that without a Prayer??
What do you think happens when you open or empty the mind without any protection?? Protection being a Prayer.
Would you leave your door open ?? No you wouldn’t.. why would you open the door of your mind without a Prayer?? Those who tell you or teach to do that some of them know the why, but they don’t tell you .. even if you ask, they will give you a very deceptive answer that appeases your ego. But think a very good Prayer or contemplation type of Prayer actually give a very safe and powerful connection to The Most High.. please contemplate on this verse below
“1 Peter 5:8
8 Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour”
Thank you..
If I cut some beef, I don't say I'm making some demonic ritual, I'm just making a stew. So if I do some fitness why should I say I'm making yoga?
Exactly. Walking under a ladder or breaking a mirror are believed to be bad luck, perhaps leftovers from older religions. To me, it's no more than what physically happens.
I do yoga for health reasons as I have a few issues. But I pop Christian music on while doing it.
I think it depends what type your doing. But I do yoga fit and it has really helped my health ..
Very good discussion
Christians should NOT practice Yoga. Exercising is one thing Yoga is something completely different. I don't have the time to go in to it, but there's some really good video's regarding this ancient Hindu practice.
Do they mention the devil? If not, why not? The devil is, after all, an ancient Christian practice. ;-)
I’m astounded by the levels of ignorance and judgement in these comments. God gave us free will to co-create. That means our health is in OUR hands. Not working out, staying flexible, controlling irrational thoughts and emotions, dealing with our emotional baggage so it doesn’t hurt others is OUR responsibility, not Gods. Jesus broke preconceptions and so should we. As long as you’re in “the loving” you’re doing it right - whether it be yoga or making dinner.
Thank you for some actual grounded rational and not indoctrinated dogmatic belief
What about the Orthodox meditation tradition of the ' Jesus breathing'?
“Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.”James 4:4
What is the wisdom in this passage?
@@jerklecirque138it's wisdom is crazy deep, it means: avoid God
You do not need to transcend the world so you can be in the presence of God.
Is there anywhere that you can be where God is not? If so, it would be an indication that God is very much limited.
The entire world is the body of Christ. The spirit of God is very much within us, which we have a tendency to forget, since we tend to think of God as somewhere out there, or up there in heaven.
Saying “namaste” actually might be a good practice to remind us of this, since it is not worshiping the other person as God, but actually means: the spirit of God within me honours the spirit of God within you.
It is simply acknowledging the divine spark in every person. We might even treat others with more kindness in the process.
As for vain repetitions of prayers, most of our prayers are some version of asking God to do something, fix something, or bring us some form of good fortune.
We talk to God, and we usually ask for things; they may even be good things, but we don’t listen.
If all you have is the repetitive chatter in your mind, you really don’t leave any room for God to get a word in at all. It’s very much a one way conversation, in which God has to listen to someone who is like a radio without an off button.
This is why Jesus said: be still and know that I am God. It’s a way to discover our off button. We can’t even come close to knowing God if we are incessant chatterboxes.
Unfortunately Christianity has become far too word centred, offering study of the scriptures, listening to sermons, and verbal prayers. It has basically become a belief system that is all about words, and is concerned more with doctrine than with spiritual practice and actual transformation, which is why people have flocked to Eastern traditions.
Thankfully, Christian meditation, which was part of the early tradition, has been revived. Also known as centring prayer, it employs a method to still the mind, so that the heart can be opened to the silent presence of Christ. It is the only way out of the limitations of words and the rational mind.
Silence was an essential part of the message and practice of Jesus, which we have largely not understood.
For an excellent and very informative book on silence in the history of Christianity, I would highly recommend Diarmaid MacCulloch’s: Silence, A Christian History.
Do you love to read the Bible?
@@carissamitchell8071
It’s not a question of whether one reads the Bible, but how one reads it.
A literal reading of the Bible without the requisite background knowledge of theology and the history of Christianity, is going to render a multitude of misguided interpretations.
There are many deeper layers of meaning below the surface of the text that are not revealed by just reading without both reflection and contemplation. This process is known as lectio divina.
To suggest that God can be known only by reading the Bible, confines God to both the Bible and our limited understanding of our reading of these scriptures. It is also in danger of becoming idolatrous by worshiping the Bible instead of God.
To put it more plainly, no matter how long and intensely you read and study the menu, you will not know the taste of food until you actually eat.
@@normaodenthal8009 Beautiful and comprehensive description of the value of scripture. Especially the last sentence. Bravo. Praise God.
Sounds like three deadly errors rolled into one - Pantheism, Syncretism and Universalism.
Incredible stories. 🙏
This was awesome!! Just try Jesus....this is our fountain of life! To know Him is eternal life!
Interesting discussion with in depth analysis on the new age Belief and the infactuation of so called yoga. Appreciate for this discussion.
Yoga is not a new age belief.
It has been in practice for centuries.
If anything is new age then it's these abrahamic religions.
I stopped doing yoga because I'm a Christian, not a Hindu.
Although I'm slowly returning to a faith in Christianity, this discussion bothered me somewhat. Let's say I take a yoga class because I want to improve my core strength and flexibility to improve my golf game and I try to use mindfulness meditation as a means to help develop focus and concentration in work situations or deal with depression or anxiety, then someone comes along and tells me "that's of the devil!!!" It's this kind of dogmatic, puritanical and superstitious attitude that partly led me reject Christianity in my younger days. How far does it go? Does the same hold for reading Harry Potter books, playing Dungeons & Dragons, or watching the movie Ghostbusters? It's this kind of dogmatism that led to things like the Satanic ritual abuse moral panics in the 80s or worse. It's the same vibe I get from the woke movement that rails against various forms of literature and art, condemning it as either "white supremacy" or "cultural appropriation". I would suggest that if Christians start becoming like the Church Lady in SNL, they're probably going to create more atheists than convert them.
Mike is a fraud. I think he enjoys the limelight exploiting christian fear.
I don't mind a bit of semi-solid food prepared from milk fermented by added bacteria sweetened and flavoured for dessert on the odd occasion.
Love this!!!
This was excellent thanks..
Top class discussion by 3 bright men. Re Christian meditation Lectio Divina is a traditional monastic practice of scriptural reading, meditation and prayer. Its promoted heavily by the Dominicans in the Catholic Church. It works !
Anyone else find those remarks about cosying up to people as "friends" to convert them horrifying and stomach-churning in the extreme?
Been there, done that.
And was chastened by the Lord.
Thanking God!
He wants us to be separate from the world.
Your feelings are so remarkably unimportant. I bet your favorite songs and favorite breakfast cereal are just as unimportant.
@@scottmcloughlin4371 You are a very insensitive and rude person.
Why would you say that?
Feelings are important. Unless you are emotionless and narcissistic, I suppose.
I prayed for your salvation.
@@user-bm4xd4ir5x yes, another manifestation of the perils of social media, I'm afraid: people say things in a manner they would not permit themselves face to face. But perhaps it us a case of "in social media veritas"? So many people seem to be seething with bitterness...
Thank you so much, Justin. I’m a Roman Catholic, raised in the southern most tip of India. I speak probably the oldest language in the world named Tamil. I had deep doubts with regards to Yoga. In fact I was promoting it long back. I did experience unexplainable effects twice, as I practiced Kundalini Yoga frequently. I thought I am getting united with God. I realised that it is an occult practice, via Father Vincent Lampert and understood why he said so. I could find Bible scripts supporting his claim. I’m not not doing it. I was eagerly waiting for channels like “Unbelievable” or “Pints with Aquinas” to answer from the base. I have now got what I wanted.
Tamil the oldest language in the world
I am Tamil and have not heard this but my Tamil is terrible
Dave Hunt wrote much against Yoga, watch Gods of the New Age or read his book, Occult Invasion.
I'm really tired of people turning to White Western Christians to speak as authorities on Hinduism, Eastern Philosophy, and Yoga. For Liberal Christians you turn to Liberal Christians. For atheists you turn to atheists. Why do you not give the same courtesy to real, educated Hindus?
I've just watched this video, and these White Western Christians refer numerous times to the subjects they're addressing, which you mentioned, "as practiced in the West " They're not speaking as experts about these practices and beliefs from an Eastern perspective, they do make that clear.
It is an undeniable fact that in the 60s and 70s, Eastern religions became very popular amongst young hippies. Many travelled to live and study in ashrams; the Beatles bought Maharishi Mahesh Yogi to the West where he taught Transcendental Meditation. Baghdad Shree Rajneesh came to live in the West & founded a community similar to an ashram.
But because Eastern spirituality was imported from one culture to another very different culture, it became a kind of hybrid form: it has continued to prosper in the West but it should definately be understood that Eastern philosophies & beliefs AS PRACTICED IN THE WEST are different to how they are practices in the East.
Why would you speak to Hindu's about whether Christians should practice Yoga? This issue is what is permissible under Christianity, why would a Hindu be a voice on that issue? Maybe they should have found an Indian Christian former Hindu on the subject, but to be honest, such an individual would probably take a more extreme anti-Yoga position given their history (speaking as an Indian Christian).
@@st89 That's a great question. You should include Hindus in discussions about Yoga for the simple fact that it is an integral part of Hinduism. This might not be clear to all Christians, and maybe Yoga does conflate with Christian doctrine, but at that point I don't care; that would be an internal issue for Christians.
However, there were many instances in which the host--which I quite enjoy--as well as the two guest speakers represented views and opinions that they don't hold and/or have never held. They spoke about those views and represented them when someone else could have been better suited for it (whether that person was a Indian ex-Hindu Christian or simply a Hindu). Of course, there's also the constant problem of 'strawman-ing' when someone inadequately represents a value/belief/opinion/argument that they themselves oppose.
@@juliemauger6183 I'm sorry but I have to disagree. The amount of times that both the host and the speakers conflate 'New Age' and Eastern Philosophy, Yoga, or Hinduism is... well, it's constant and throughout this whole episode. This whole episode reeks of inadequately addressed cultural/religious appropriation.
@@kalebmoore2945 This is an in-house Christian discussion and only has value to you if you hold to a Christian worldview. If Hindu's were debating whether they could allow Christians to take part in Hindu ceremonies, or debating whether Hindu's could participate in the religious acts of Christians (i.e. communion), then it would make sense to have just practicing Hindu's in the discussion since they all have the same basic worldview.
Or if the discussion was just whether Yoga was a beneficial practice, then it makes sense to bring in a Hindu.
But to discuss whether Christians should practice Yoga is only something worth discussing amongst Christians.
Yoga is not New Age. It is thousands years older then Christianity.
Yes, Yoga is old but the New Age takes older beliefs and puts them in new packaging. The New Age adopts Eastern spiritual views and practices.
@@TheExastrologer
I can agree with that cause we all know that Christianity of today isn't the same as it was 500 years ago and the Christianity of 500 years ago isn't the same as it was 2000 years ago. So...we can say that modern Christianity is New Age also.
Example: the resurrection would have never taken on the literal meaning, back then {two thousand years ago}, as the nonsense it has turned into today.
@@jackalsgate1146 I really think 2000 years ago people were even worsly (that a word? spellcheck don't know) superstitious then now.
@Miles Doyle
And do you really think that anyone is going to read all of that.? You didn't even bother to have a dialogue with anyone first and introduce your argument. You just wrote an entire book and expected someone to respond to that garbage.?
Brilliant exposition of new age practices, specifically yoga, as practised in the West
Mike Shreve. Yey.
The only criticism I have with this video is Mike actually dictating mantras. By his own admission, these words and phrases are Satanic in nature. Thus, he ignores his own caution and poisons us with his carelessness. Even if he were a competent yogi, or qualified Hindu priest, he would not be so casual with sounds that carry great weight. Either way, he demonstrates poor judgement in his action.
Transcendental. Meditation( TM) is the emptying of mind. Totally different than praying and Christian meditation.
If a Christian uses Yoga exercise and adjust the transcendental meditation to close prayer on scripture , would that make a difference ?
In my experience there really isn't a different between the two. Both are beneficial and I'd recommend practicing them in which ever way fits your spiritual practice best.
@@yep33whalesbebig60 It is a wrong methodology that won’t pay you anything in longer run.
@@dajusta87 Yoga falls under one of the occult practices. I suggest you to watch the videos of a Catholic Exorcist Fr. Vincent Lampert. I have commented for you to seek truth and not to debate or argue.
@@CanisDei I disagree. What's wrong with the methodology?
Yoga as physical exercise is okay. But yoga as a spiritual discipline is best left for the practicioners of Hindusim.
There are Christian forms of mediation like Lectio divina, hesychasm and centering prayer etc.
Spot on
I do not think anyone can separate the 2
@@carissamitchell8071 Why not? Haven't you done any stretching exercise before even knowing about yoga? Probably you've done a lot of exercises from yoga books. These are just what they are: stretching! But because you did in a gym, in your house, anywhere outside a Hinduism-like context, you never thought about it. I personally do not practice yoga (the stretching), because I don't like it. However, I have a lot of back pain and my brother (physical educator, personal trainer) helps me with back stretching. Some resemble a lot of exercises from yoga. Of course, we're outside the cult context of typical yoga. He helps me in my house or my parents' house. There is no "chant" music, no "mediation", nothing of the sort. Just relaxing music, perhaps the sound of rain on a thin roof and a piano. Would that be impossible to distinguish from spiritual yoga?
@@renancunha4799 why not just stretch then? Why do something that has roots in another religion?
I practice group naked yoga and it is a wonderful spiritual experience! PTL
Yes, they can. "Should" is a little strong. Yoga means "yoke." ** - Matthew 11:30.
You can practice DDPyoga without all the Alan Watts and religious expression. His program works and all he talks about is wrestling the whole time. He even renamed the moves to help people; think Roman adoption or including Gentile's favorite sandwiches instead of Gefilte fish
This conversation would’ve been more informative as a debate with someone who opposes the collective views of the panel members.
these arguments are forever trapped in semantic confusion and thinking their terms for a 'thing' is the most authoritive. its beautifully parodied by Monty Python in The life of Brian, where two fervant believers argue over one of Brian's lost shoes. 'It's a shoe!' ' no, it's a sandal!' ultimatly all religous confusion is based in our fidelity over some words over others and without an external supernatural event that we can personally witness, we'll forever remain in spirals of terms, words and culture interpretations forever and ever...amen. if god wishes to judge us. FIRST he/it must present us with unambiguous EVIDENCE first!!
Only the religious could possibly ask "Is it a sin to practice this peaceful, calming art?"
I would disagree, though on the surface it looks very peaceful and calming (I have taken part in yoga sessions in the past) it has some very serious consequences which even include bringing back traumatic experiences that were tucked away. There was a study published on this (don't remember who wrote it) that looked into the negative consequences of yoga and it turns out there there are quite a lot of them and are intense (the ones who were under study were professional practitioners, not noobs).
@@devanshroyal8372 A quick search yields nothing like what you're describing.
@@devanshroyal8372 what utter rubbish
Anyone who is interested in this compatibility question should read ' Christian Yoga ' by Jean-Marie Dechanet . Even as a fan of yoga I would say that kundalini yoga is best avoided . Having said that I think that the Patanjali yoga structure is a very effective way to bring one closer to the kingdom of heaven that is within you ( Luke 17 Vs 21) .
I practice yoga at home but don't go to outside classes. I do it to christian music and for me its just away of9
Thank you for this deep revelations on yoga
This sounds like a headline from the Babylon Bee....I do Yoga....you have the spirituality of it if you want, but I don't. I have used it as part of a programme set by my Physiotherapist to rehabilitate me after serious injury....long since recovered but I need to maintain and enhance myself. Yoga is terrific for flexibility. Cannot recommend it highly enough. You can just use the breathing techniques that kinda go with it if you don't want the more spiritual aspects. It has very broad application in day to day life to...
I hear you, but from what I understand each pose in yoga is also a form of worship to a particular deity.
It is also a missionary tool of Hinduism to bring people into eastern views through physical exercise
@@Alex.Kalashnik Imagine a god so petty that stretching in the wrong way is a sin.
@@jerklecirque138 we got whole books about such god(s)
@@jerklecirque138 God is not petty. He is , however a jealous God. He wants all of us. I have learned in my walk to trust God. Whenever there is a command in scripture it is to obey and worship God only. It ends up being for my benefit as well. All to often well push aside things when we should consider
They criticized Christ for casting out demons too. So, if Shiva the God of Destruction is repulsive to you, perhaps the worship of Chist is beyond you as well.
I'm so glad I don't look at everything in the world through a biblical lense. The analysis paralysis has got to be mind boggling 🤣
what's 'analysis paralysis', you godforsaken heathen?
Satan claims the unwary or the incomplete. A true man may flinch away its embrace, if he is stalwart, and he girds his soul with the armour of contempt.
@Doug Reformed
Paul had a vision that others with him didnt see after jesus died. Try reading the book of horrors before you try to talk about it
Yoga is sitting comfortably for 20 minutes. These guys dont know what they are talking about. Surprise
No it isn't. If you think that, you don't know what yoga is. By that logic, medieval Christian monks who never even heard the term yoga were doing exactly the same thing as Hindu spiritual gurus of the same time. I can absolutely guarantee that the Hindu spiritual gurus, the experts in yoga, will vehemently disagree.
In the USA, we use the word "yoga" to refer to *yogic asanas* (postures). Look up the words on Wikipedia. Wikipedia works fine for basic terminology.
real hardcore yoga is sitting/standing/lying uncomfortably for 20 hours!
@Miles Doyle You are certainly energized by the Pneuma Hagion! I'll just editorialize that residents of North America have no other cultural grounding of significant mass and volume other than Christianity. Without Christian acculturation, Americans are little more than haters and charlatans sprinkled with a few naïve utopians and infantilized escapists. Now, with our inheriting thousands of protestant denominations and the hubristic globalist ambitions of British imperial geopolitics, some (many?) American Christians are sadly haters with Christian acculturation, but ecumenical endeavors and interreligious outreach are alive and well across most of the larger denominations and many of the smaller ones. Apart from my intolerance of obnoxious whiners raised on TV and TV dinners, I'm motivated by two historical observations that dominate much of my frontal cortex for the last few years. First, Christian monks spread literacy to illiterate geographies and classes within geographies, created new literacies such as for musical notation, and most importantly, copied all those manuscripts over centuries by hand. We digerati can't give out enough well deserved gold medals for those centuries of patient labors. Second, religious institutions quite clearly outlast everything we know as laws, dynasties, kingdoms, currencies and states. Until the 20th C, those institutions ran nearly everything we today call schools and hospitals. I suppose we can forgive ahistorical colonial North American gearheads and food addicts for not internalizing and foregrounding that obvious truth, but history likely won't forgive them for long. For now, I will argue that finer points of apologetics, soteriology, theology and (my favorites) even hermeneutics and philology should take a back seat to reach and relevance. For now, America's university faculty have cloistered themselves within pay walls and focus most of their time on grant seeking or mischief making. Nobody but Christians (alongside Buddhists and Muslims) have any literate interests in gathering sheep wandering far afield of the flocks. Peace be with you.
@Miles Doyle there are no first hand accounts of anything Jesus said or did and the people you named who wrote about him did not live at the same time as Jesus, Josephus' father Matthias did, an elder at the temple, yet he never mentioned Jesus.
Look into the book “deceived by the new age” - Will Baron
will baron deceived by the new age
No
repulsive how superstitious and hateful these folks are. I wonder how they would react if told that Easter was originally celebrated in honour of the pagan Goddess Eostre (related to the Hindu Goddess Usha).
There is an abundance of scripture that clearly tells you what God thinks of any man made tradion or ritual. If it didn't come from Him, then it's pagan. You are not to mix the traditions or rituals created by men with anything that is God's. I think tolerance has been confused with exceptence. We are to hate the sin not the sinner. That doesn't mean we go out and say what you are doing is okay, in fact I will do it with you. That's exceptence, that's saying I condone what you are doing even though it's wrong. Tolerance is living in a fallen world and saying, what you are doing is wrong, and I can not pollute myself by doing it, but I love you and when you're ready to repent I'm here. It's like the story of the prodigal son. The father didn't go after him and join him in his sin, he waited for his sun to return and welcomed him back with open arms. If you are trying to rationalize anything pagan by saying, but we made it about God, then you are mixing God with Pagan and we all know what God says about lukewarm Christian on judgment day.
He said a demon slammed into his forehead. But 1 John. 5. 18 says the evil one cannot touch or harm a believer. IMO it was sleep paralysis.
and yet we are told to beware of wolves that stalk around ready to pounce on the unwary.....and if we invite demons disguised as angels?
Mary magdeline had several times when she needed demons to be cast out of her (seven times)
If you have faith as small as a pea, you can move mountains ..... and here is a person who thinks he would loose his christian faith if he practices an exercise regime for the body? truly the end days are here when such weak people become church leaders .....
2 mad men, btw i know Mike S from incel imageboards lets meditate on that one.
According to the Scriptures, Rev 4:8, don’t the 6 wing Seraphim night and day never cease to say “Holy,holy,holy is the Lord God Almighty…….., Is that vain repetition? According to one of your guests the Angels are engaging in it, but I cannot agree with him.There are Christian meditation traditions(example the Jesus Prayer) that do involve repetition of a short verse or piece of scripture that follow the example the Seraphim provide us with.
I am a Christian by birth and practice yoga. Buddhist and Hindu Yoga, when analyzed, are a both simply a Philosphy and they don't get in the way of being a Christian. If they did it would be like saying somebody who studied Philosphy couldn't be Aa Christian.
To study it and to practice it are two different things. Each pose in yoga is a form of worship to a particular deity.
What do you think of someone who identifies themselves as bhakti?
And you know some yoga poses are just lying and breathing right? That's worshipping a god of some sort, you realize that sounds pretty silly.
@@yep33whalesbebig60 it’s always more than that. Are you a Christian?
@@carissamitchell8071 I identify most with something called bhakti, but I definitely use Christian prayers, practices, and adhere to some of the ideologies. I want my worship to be as pure as I can make it and believe that many of the Christian religious leaders will corrupt me if I follow, so I choose to not participate in any organized religion.
is god an atheist?...
does Jesus do yoga?
@Miles Doyle Respectfully, your syntax is absolutely horrible; run on sentences, terrible punctuation, and extremely poor sentence structures. Nonetheless, you took the time to write 1829 words, so, I’ll take the time to reply. I highly suggest that you take writing courses to teach you how to write a coherent sentence and paragraph. RUclips has great free writing courses. Just go to RUclips, type in the search box--inquiries like: How to write a proper sentence; How to write a proper paragraph; How to write creatively; or How to write an essay. Writing is a learned skill. The more you learn how to write, the better you will be able to comprehensively write. The better you write, the better you can make your points and the more people you will be able to reach/teach. After improving your writing skills, rewrite me your ‘above synopsis’ and we can go from there…
Stop lying please
I think Chris James has some growth and development of the principles of biblical Christianity, I pray he will continue on his journey, but he is a baby Christian and is not really in the position to give wisdom other than sharing the journey that Yoga is incompatible with Christ.
The best reason for not practicing yoga is it's harmful to the spine and joints. Sanskrit is Indo - European.
This is a Christian "should I / shouldn't I" click bait channel.
You should at least watch the video before you make a snap judgement. God bless you friend.
Not click bait. It’s a good question. Do you know Jesus?
The yoga poses are demonic.
By your comment I can see your an old man nearly 46 .
Which ones? Be more specific. Is stretching demonic? How about breathing alternatively thru each nostril?
The mind is the playground of the devil
How fortunate, then, that there are so few.
The idle mind is the devil's playground.
Yoga heals the body.
No. True chrisitans should be handling snakes and trying to convert yoga people. Though it seems people ignore all the stuff they don't want to do. Which makes me wonder why they don't just throw away the whole book of ancient fables and terrible ideas.
Better that Christians gave up their imaginary friend and start doing things for real.
Who decides what is real or imaginary? Are you willing to consider that what you consider "real" is imaginary to other people?
@@nobleprince1238 Logic, common sense and evidence decides.
Also it is not me 'considering' what is real, but what is actually real based on reality.
Reality is not a perception.
@@MrAuskiwi101 Sounds like rationalism, scientism and evidentialism. Nothing new! All those are products of a meaningless, dog-eat-dog evolutionary process, aren't they? While they make you appear like you REALLY know what you're saying, they don't make you better than Christians. Sorry.
Now that you've conceded that reality is not a perception, what will you say about ex-Satanists and witches who testify that they were involved in spiritual battles with Christians before they became Christians?
Will you say you lack spiritual reality or you will deny spiritual reality because you can't SEE/KNOW what they are talking about? But you can SEE how the Big Bang happened and how fish became birds 10000000000... years ago?
@Miles Doyle May I suggest you prove bible god and JC existed before claiming they do or say anything. Thanks.
"For God so loved The World that gave his only begotten son that whoever should believe in him will not perish but have eternal life!!"
Yeah that is complete nonsense. Let me translate it for you.
Once upon a time an always existed all powerful all knowing invisible sky wizard sent itself as a sacrifice to itself so it could allow itself for forgive humanity for how it made it in the first place.
@nobleprince1238 Common sense decides. Try it sometime, providing it doesn't conflict with your belief
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