Review - UNFROSTED (2024)
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
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Jerry Seinfeld's Netflix history-spoof is a joyless breakfast-bomb that assembles an absurdly-stacked cast comedians and gigantic budget of nostalgic period props all to deliver a laugh-free, tone-deaf send-up of Boomer flashback kitsch ostensibly riffing on "Space Race" Cold War biopic cliches with a fictionalized retelling of the clash between Kelloggs and Post cereal companies to bring the "Pop-Tart" toaster pastry to store shelves ahead of one another in the early 1960s.
#unfrosted #netflix
"It's what AI movies would be if AI had enough soul to be this stupid."
Great quote.
This is when I realized this is a real movie and not a fake movie being marketed to sell Pop-Tarts with those RUclips ads
The baffling thing was when people online were complaining about it like "Oh god they'll make a movie about anything now!" and I'm like... "Guys, you do realize this is a Seinfeld thing, right? It's not a serious film about Pop-tarts. It's a farce."
Even though it's a real movie, I'm pretty sure it still exists largely to sell pop tarts. Kind of like how Adam Sandler movies are vessels for product placement and an excuse to give Rob Schneider money.
At this point, I feel like the one "celebrity roast" America really needs right now is of Jerry Seinfeld. Between his personal life, his now shop-worn standup style, and his mostly disastrous post-Seinfeld career, there's just such a treasure trove of downright vicious jokes which almost write themselves that I would not be at all surprised if Jeff Ross was already in aggressive negotiations to make it happen.
I think its safe to say Larry David is the more talented of the duo.
@@repulser93 I think it's safe to say that your point is one that would definitely get brought up in any worthwhile roast of Seinfeld.
He was on John Mulaney's talk show, clearly not wanting to be there and talking over Mulaney the entire time. Being the first episode, at first I thought it was a bit like Between the Ferns, but soon realized both of them looked very uncomfortable.
The only funny thing about Unfrosted has been the menswear guy on twitter savagely making fun of how much worse all the Mad Men guys' suits fit them now
The biggest surprise of this review is that there's actual history on the history channel again. How long has this been going on?
Not just the history of the gun? Or the history of power tools? Or the history of alien conspiracies? Or the history of some other gun?
@@andrewklang809 They stopped talking about WW2?
@@JohnZ117 Never. But even when most of their output was WW2, Rome, or whatever, they were legit documentaries. Even "The Guns That Won World War II" might have had some legitimacy as a documentary. But then they moved into the history of the guns themselves, not about talking about their used in a grander historical context. Then they made episodes like: "What if Julius Caesar duelled Shake Zulu, who would win?". And the channel was dead to me.
@@andrewklang809 Wasn't that Spike TV doing Deadliest Warrior? Or did History get into that as well?
@@MandolinMagi You may be right about that exact show, but The History Channel started veering into (a)historical speculation shows of a similar sort.
7:56 "It's sort of, you know, Jerry said he wanted it to be the anti-Barbie, and in terms of profitability, it certainly will be".
Slam. Dunk. End.
that statement of his is total bunk considering Unfrosted finished principal photography WAY back in 2022 before Barbie even came out.
Bob has managed the impossible: I now want to see a History Channel series.
You should really give The Toys That Built America a shot
@@jinpei05 Thanks for the tip!
Why does film feel like that bit in the Simpsons when Krusty the Clown tries to do stand up again? When he breaks out the old stereotype impressions and makes a TV dinner joke, only for a couple modern comedians watching to quip sarcastically "Take that, Stoffers."
Like, this movie might have been hilarious five or ten years ago and Seinfeld dusting it off was his attempt to stay relevant and prove he "still had it" when he clearly just...doesn't anymore.
Hell, at this point, "the food that built america" might be the last actual history on the "History Channel".
It's really telling that the most successful "big ideas" Seinfeld has had were:
-a sitcom where a stand-up comedian finds small little funny moments in everyday life
-a show where comedians get in a car, get coffee, and tell each other jokes.
The dude is only really good at packaging the simplest ideas into something enjoyable. Anything more complicated than that is outside his wheelhouse
Bee Movie was interesting at least, this film is just an overlong unfunny SNL sketch.
"a show where comedians get in a car, get coffee, and tell each other jokes."
Not even his idea. Only won his case because the person who came up with it didn't file within 3 years.
@@cameragod1 It was nice of Seinfeld to apologize to Bob Llewellyn for basically duplicating his 2009 web series "Carpool", mind.
The best thing Seinfeld had going for it was Larry David's writing.
It has the feel of one of the bad Adam Sandler films where it's just a bunch of SNL and standup talent laughing at their own jokes.
except Sandler's films are actually funny, this shit isn't.
It sounds like it gets a lot of the same criticism as The Phantom Menace. The writer/director had practically unlimited resources, and nobody was willing to tell him "no".
I saw this wasn't a Cornflake Homunculus horror movie and was disappointed
Then I saw it was a Jerry Seinfeld movie and was even more disappointed
Kellogg(Kellanova) must be trully out of touch to think an aging 90s comedian that hasn't been relevant in 15 years is the way to get some free advertising for their products.
2 big takeaways from this video:
1. The description of these dumb things makes me want to get ripped and watch this with some friends when it comes to streaming.
2. This is the first time since 2009 I've heard anyone use the history channel as a reference for interesting, even slightly factual programming.
"When it comes to streaming"... It's a Netflix movie.
This is how you know you made it in Hollywood: when you can come in with terrible ideas and everyone around you just yes-and's you until you're sitting in the theatre at the premiere drowning in unbearable silence as noone is laughing at your jokes
If so, that's a pretty bleak view from the top of mountain. It's also the opposite of what I expect Seinfeld wanted here.
Calling Seinfelds woke bullshit marketing is actually a really good take, this film is definitely aimed at an older demographic. Even the poster is a bit classic hollywood
Sad they didn't make the calculation that the youth are super into sanitized nostalgia. Always have been. Growing up I loved eating at 50's diners and I don't remember one person complaining that the burger place with the doo wop music just wasn't the same without the "whites only" signs.
IMHO he's just mad people realized he wasn't funny. Just mean.
His desire to make this the Anti-Barbie movie was also a red flag. He's got the Boomer brain worms now. He'll be telling the attack helicopter joke and palling around with Trump in 10, 9, 8...
@@TheBahamaat His claims aren't even true cause Unfrosted finished principal photography in 2022 a whole year before Barbie even came out so that does not hold water.
He may be trying to get out ahead of the accusations because he's done multiple interviews about how he was dating a 15 year old when he was on TV
The more I learn about the Bee Movie, accidentally and against my will, the more unhinged it sounds. Somehow.
4:39 The Food That Built America, and The Games That Built America, are *great* background noise.
My favorite example of “community theaterism”
in those shows was when they cast some 19-year old to play one of the real Parker Brothers in the scene where they Invent The Thing as young men, which makes sense for that specific moment in time, but then the majority of the episode has the same teenager as an old man running the company in the same makeup you’d use to “age up” the kid playing grandpa in the school play being like “Monopoly?!? It’ll NEVER work!” or whatever.
Personally, my favorite moment is when they casted an American to play the inventor of Tetris and didn' bother to instruct him to sound Russian.
Really strange how Seinfeld chose to blame "Wokeness" for killing comedy but he branded himself as being a "Clean" Comedian for most of his career. This is not a slam on Comics like Jim Gaffigan some of whom are really funny but you can't tell me that Pryor or Carlin weren't "Woke" when it came to politics and those 2 are miles above anything that Jerry Seinfeld could ever be. If anything is killing comedy, it's people like "Kramer" screaming the N-Word at the audience and how much $ you think is still going into all their pockets based on his role in the Seinfeld series?....
I feel like I saw Jerry Seinfeld doing some sort of masterclass-style thing writing a routine about pop tarts years ago. And on the show wasn't there a comically bad comedian whose routines were about 'anything that dissolves in milk?'
No joke, your review is the first thing I have ever seen of this movie. I haven't seen any marketing of this thing considering the names involved.
The Seinfeld show had Larry David.
I like that when you were saying “people who think they’re funny” you had Melissa McCarthy shots playing
Seinfeld thinks when people say no to his ideas it’s because they are woke when really his ideas just aren’t that funny. He’s known for being a great standup but seriously what’s his most famous bit? What was his biggest special?
So… like Dan Aykroyd, Seinfeld is unable to focus his creativity into a palatable final product… resulting in a bloated, indulgent mess…
Pop Tarts ❤
It’s bad, but Kelloggs was based out of my hometown and there’s a comedy festival with like five of the bigger acts in this movie this summer so I’m weirdly happy with it. Bill Bur as Kennedy was the biggest laughing can’t wait to see him live
“…If AI had enough soul to be this stupid…” gold bob, gold.
I remember Seinfeld's documentary Commedian, wich I found fascinating even with the decision to close out by talking to Bill Cosby. It's like Seinfeld never forgave the world for finding out about Bil Cosby being a wretched human being.
I miss the post credit scenes on your reviews
I feel like he adds them when he has material, though it might be based more on how many he's put out in recent days.
and Death to Smoochy is referenced. That is one underrated film, it's so over the top, it's hard to take it too serious, but it's so infectious I always recomend it.
They're.... Rocket ships. >_>
@@Ahrpigi best scene! Danny Davito wished he could edit down the film to be kid friendly. He always wanted a kid version, still amazined he tried, "I never got to see Paris." is forever in my mind.
@@crithon I'm glad he didn't, I think Smoochy is a great example of what "adult" comedy can be.
@@Ahrpigi true, but its an example why 80s childrens films had that EDGE to them.
@@crithon Smoochy was 2002, and are you maybe thinking of Don Bluth? NiMH, All Dogs Go To Heaven?
Why cant we have disaster movies, instead of, disaster movies?
I am a little disappointment that no one walking out of the commencement address that Seinfeld was giving shouted "No soup for you".
Probably too late to include it.
@@Alverant Bob's coverage of it? Yes. I blame to college kids for not having the gumption to dress as soup Nazis.
Long story short, not every movie can (or should) be Weird: The Al Yankovic Story. If you want to do a movie that just makes up a bunch of stuff for a laugh (while playing it straight), that's the bar you have to clear.
peak netflix is a money laundering operation vibes
Given how much they lose every year, it's hardly an unfair comparison. It also helps to think of it like this: they tried applying the Walmart model to streaming. To wit, be crappy and lose a little money by ultimately being the only game in town. It's obviously not working out that way.
I beg to differ, personally I think Seinfeld is a hack that was propped up by a better partner. Much like Ricky Gervais
Everything I have heard about this movie makes this sound like somebody tried to turn half a dozen halfway decent Super Bowl commercials into a movie and just failed miserably.
The weird thing about The Bee Movie being a meme is that I feel like people only meme it just because it's absurd on it's face, like what even is "The Bee Movie", but what makes it more memable is that the actual plot feels like it was being made up as it went along, which admittedly made it an interesting watch the first time through since it was difficult to predict where it was going. It's funny, though, my parents are kind of interested in seeing this movie, but now I'm more interested in it just to see how bad it is.
It hadn't occured to me till you mentioned it but I bet Seinfeld watched Food That Built America and it directly inspired Unfrosted
Jerry Seinfeld is a hack who got lucky.
So true. The ethan hawk of comedy. Just sorta showed up and failed upward haha. But at least Mr Hawk got good at the job eventually. Jerry...... No excuses brah you just suck...
@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 Yeah, it helped Hawke kept working at. Seinfeld always just coasted on his "talent".
My wife and I made it to minute 41 of Unfrosted, and then procedeed to watch Amazon's "puppy love" and sat through that whole movie. That should give you an idea how bad Unfrosted is...
Bee movie worked because it was the Jerry Seinfeld persona shoved into a "slightly absurd" but not too absurd theme. This allows him to slip back and forth between reacting oddly to normal things and having normal reactions to odd things. To me that is the Seinfeld persona. And bees fit that persona rather well because theyre actually a rather odd creature when you think about it. Sounds like this movie was just too absurd and that dynamic fell apart.
You consider a bee falling in love with a human woman and suing the human race is only "slightly absurd".
Bee movie didn't work at all.
@@McCheeseincakes Correct
@@Toppro No, Bee movie didn't work. That's why it worked.
@@VagabondTEI don't know if that's what they were going for when they made the movie, but I gotta admit that it's had a phenomenal post-theatrical life as an internet meme if nothing else.
If you want a meaner satire of corporatism, there are plenty. If you like 80s movies, try the first half hour of Joe Versus the Volcano. If you prefer 90s movies, try the Hudsucker Proxy.
Why it doesnt land? Because the 90s were the time of easy comedy. There was a time before that were comedy had to be smarter, and now there is a time after were comedy has to be smarter. Thats why so many 90s comedians struggle these days
And it’s not like they aren’t funny. Bill burr’s specials always make me laugh but old dads was bad
There was nothing easy about 90’s comedy and there’s absolutely no basis that comedy is smarter now. The show Seinfeld’s longevity is a rare achievement and there unlikely will be anything recently that will come close. It’s almost universally accepted that even halfway decent comedy movies are rare this day and age and smart comedy hasn’t been a regular thing in decades. And aside from being a stand up comedian who just made his directorial debut, he’s not struggling with anything.
@@timy9197 Seinfeld ran for 9 seasons. There are shows right now that ran for much longer. There were contemporary shows in the 90s that ran longer. It's not that special. And comedy shows have become smarter.
No, comedy's always hard. But it's extremely hard for an observational comic who gets really successful to keep their edge. There's the long-running trope that stand-up comics start out making witty and insightful commentary on everyday life, and then they get successful and all their jokes are about airports and hotel rooms. And it's even harder now when your new bits will be shared across the internet 5 minutes after they drop. That's why so many try to transition to dramatic acting or a sitcom (a lot fewer of those these days).
exactly, see Dennis Miller for a perfect example of that, dude got brain-worms even worse then Seinfeld did.
Aww man, they dragged poor Schmidt into this?
Glad I'm not the only one who loves "The Food That Built America" and immediately thought of the Pop Tart episode of that show while watching this movie! Listen to Bob. Go watch that instead!
It probably would be better if they actually filmed this like a serious movie about the nuclear-arms race, but it was about Pop-Tarts vs Country Squares. That's what Seinfeld was all about, making mountains out of molehills.
Seinfeld never realized that in the show with him as the title character--about nothing...the joke was literally on him.
Mom had me subscribe to Netflix for the month for this. I stayed in the living room as long as possible before joining here and I came in to learn there was an actual living ravioli loose in a lab and I knew I was in for a weird ride. I totally thought this was based off a true story. Oh man.
Seinfeld was clearly a talented comedian 20 years a go...
But now? Really?
You can never go home again.
Can we talk about how they made the mascots-the lovable, fluffy, blue collar, relatable guys-LOSE to the big corporations? And it’s not done in a message sort of way?
What a weird, confused film with basically 0 payoff for all the set ups
I think I would have liked a mockumentary satire on Genius/Inventor/CEO biopics. And this isn't it, oh well.
(I guess we have to stick with the podcasts and the books)
So, it's an allegory for Jerry's comedy.
How disappointing to see Thurl Freaking Ravenscroft in a modern movie and to be done such disrespect.
It weakens that Grant doesn't come close to Thurl's voice. I'm sure Thurl lived and breathed music, but all of the nonfictional characters were given obviously fictional stories, so I thought, "Thurl, a frustrated actor? OK, let's see what comes of it." I must be against the spirit of comedy to find his ending up both Jacob Chansley, and the guy who crapped in the Capitol, a bit sad.
Conceptually it’s more ambitious than a typical Adam Sandler movie where all his buddies laugh at their own farts and make a tax write off but it ended being just as bad if not worse.
This is the best review of the movie I’ve seen in terms of pinpointing the flaws and astutely describing them. Wonderfully done. There were a few bright spots in the movie but too few. It would probably have been more watchable if Jerry was channeling Ed Wood, because at least it would have been so bad it was good.
I saw the commercial and literally commented “there is no way this many names on a movie can be any good”
Just watched this last night. I enjoyed it because how just how absurd and insane this movie is. I laughed a few times but not really because it was funny, but because it’s just insane and chaos. It’s like a woody woodpecker cartoon. Just chaos. And for that it was “fun” but in no way is this a good movie whatsoever.
Bill Burr with hair is some thing I should never have to see
From you description it kinda feel like they were aiming for Zucker/Abrahams and ended up somewhere closer to Wayans (ala Scary Movie).
On the upside, I didn't know 'Food that Made America' was a thing (I'd only heard about the Netflix versions). Time to add that to the list.
Food that made America is great!!!
The Wayans family were some of the best sketch comedians of the 1990s, even if their collective output is pretty uneven. It's Friedberg/Seltzer (who took over the Scary Movie franchise) who are the unfunny hacks who drove parody movies into the ground in the 00s/10s.
Except Wayans are actually funny, this shit isn't.
@@digitaljanus This movie is so bad it makes every single one of those Seltzerberg films look like fucking Airplane by comparison.
@@digitaljanus ahh, so they did change part way through. My quick Google was a little vague on that.
Bill Burr as JFK was spot on though. And, I think Hugh Grant is in some financial trouble.
Americans insisting Seinfeld was ever funny is the most widespread cultural delusion I've ever seen.
I'm an American, and I agree with you.
It has it's moments but it's nowhere near the masterpiece it's made out to be, give me Friends or Will and Grace over it any day of the week.
@@KevinTheTimeGeek86 same, Cybill, Grace Under Fire and Caroline in the City were way sharper and funnier.
@@jadedheartsz all trash
When you say "Seinfeld," are you talking about the person, the show, or both?
The poster gives the impression of a 60s period comedy from the 80s.
It being the goofus of comedies almost makes me want to see it out of morbid curiosity. Not enough to spend money on it.
It’s funny this turned into a review of a history channel show instead.
Of course a movie about pop tarts would be toothless, they're basically sugar coated sandpapers for your teeth.
You made a really good sales pitch for that history channel show. I'm interested now. lol
That Food that Built America show sounds really interesting actually, thanks for the recommendation Bob.
So it’s The Bee Movie, but live-action and about Pop Tarts. That’s all I need to know.
Bee Movie was actually interesting though.
Seinfeld has been the worst part of everything he's ever been involved in.
Right, so my feelings about Seinfeld the TV series can be comfortably extended to cover this movie. Not worth my time.
I recognize and accept that 'nobody learns anything, nobody grows' was an artistic choice for the series, but it was a choice that made it feel like a slog of awful, selfish people making awful, selfish decisions and not even being good at being awful and selfish because they constantly screwed themselves over too.
So...the prototype of MAGA?
@@johnathonhaney8291 Selfish, not cataclysmically stupid and malignant.
Maybe it's a Freddy Got Fingered type of deal where they set out to make the worst movie they could get away with? That might be giving them too much credit though.
Now that’s what i call Postmodern poisoning!
Thank you for the great recommendation! I'm immediately off to watch The Food That Built America.
The movie that came to mind as you were describing things was Walk Hard, a pseudo-period piece with caricatures of actual historical figures. Hadn't heard of this movie, but good to know I'm not missing much (never been a big Seinfeld guy anyway)
Yeah, I tuned out this movie about halfway through, or so. It lost my attention entirely, and I’d just let look up every now and then. I think it was the funeral scene is when I said out loud, “this is so stupid”
Holy shit I love the food that built america! The tv dinner one was cool
I thought Unfrosted felt very similar to Bee Movie. Except that film flows from beat to beat effortlessly even in the more outlandish elements.
All pastry. No filling.
3/10 is honestly too high
Seinfeld has been a talentless hack his whole career
Also as a POC i strongly disagree with writing off Seinfeld's bigotry as "marketing"
rare bad take from moviebob imo
Given that Seinfeld notably refused to say the N-word when prompted I don't think it's a bad take, I do think it's just marketing to try and get ahead of the bad reviews.
@@jadedheartsz Wont say the N word but will pose with gun wielding baby killers in the IDF. Riiiight lol.
Nah I'm with jbmaz. Bob didn't go hard enough lol. This deserves a lower score than joker or bvs lol. Nothing more annoying than up its own azz movies that try to act like they are saying some deep crap when they are saying absolutely nothing...... Cept for this movie lol. This is actually some how worse than that annoying crapp lol.
Sounds like if Hudsucker Proxy was Rise of Skywalker
Except ROS is actually good, i'm with Bob on that one.
@@jadedheartsz Yo, fellow TROS defender. There really are more of us.
@@repulser93 hell yeah
@@repulser93"There are dozens of us! Dozens!"
@@andrewklang809 "There are more of us [andrewklang809. There are more. Of. Us!"
It wanted to be Weird: The Al Yankovic Story - but failed miserably.
Makes sense. I was wondering how it compared, since Bob didn't bring up Weird but it sounded like exactly the same premise and concept except with zero art.
The funeral scene was funny, otherwise hit & miss. At least for once a movie with Melissa McCarthy in which I didn't despise her.
WOW, absolutely for Baby Boomers, if you’re one, don’t miss it. If you’re not, sorry, you’re going to miss a lot of subtle HILARIOUS LAUGH OUT LOUD moments. If you know a Baby Boomer, watch it with them so you can get clued it, if you can get them to stop laughing. So much better than what appeals to current generations… witches, vampires, draculas, cults, murderers, werewolves… really, what happened to you young’uns?
Sounds like an insurance movie. You know, a movie that just exists for the sake of somebody getting all their actor friends a current movie credit so they can retain their Screen Actors Guild status (and health insurance) for a few more years.
Except, most of the actors in this thing are actively working on other projects, so... This is what happens when you don't have anyone who can tell your big ego talent "no".
I like unfrosted. Don't get me wrong, it's crap, but it's a quaint kind of crap. If I thought it was on purpose, I'd be impressed by how much it looks like a movie about the 60s, made in the 90s.
You know what it makes me think of? Greg Turkington's popcorn classics. And I don't mean that as an insult. Maybe it should be an insult, but it's the very best that a Seinfeld film could be in the present day.
I think there should be room for movies like this. I'm not gonna die on the hill or anything, but as someone born in the late 80s, this is very nostalgic for me. It's not nostalgic for the 60s, it's nostalgic for the 90s, when okayish comedies were in cinemas and even making a little money. And I like that. It's a kind of nostalgia that I don't feel constantly exploited by these days
I feel like if you have never reviewed a movie online this movie would be a good starter pack
Movie aside, I look forward to any making-of featurettes that come out of this.
It’s also ironic because Seinfiled is actually right about what’s wrong with modern comdey.
So that’s two strikes aginesr Moviebob and regular audience to
And two wins for Jerry Seinfeld 😁✊🏻👏❗️
I liked this better when it was called the Hudsucker Proxy.
Have Melissa McCarthy and Amy Poehler been in any GOOD movies lately?
maybe you just lack the ability to find women funny.
Since Spy, which was all the way back in 2015, McCarthy most certainly hasn't.
“Can You Ever Forgive Me?” Was an underrated drama that Melissa McCarthy was in.
@@madsgrams2069 Spy *was* amazing, though
Amy Schumer?
dang! I glanced at the thumbnail, saw the title, and thought this was going to be something about Jordan B Peterson kicking his drug habit.
That documentary series sounds really funny.
I also love the Foods That Built America. One of the few shows still in production on broadcast TV that I still like watching. 😃😆
Liking documentaries about mundane objects and the Seinfeld sitcom I’d assume I’m part of the target audience, but I didn’t get far in. Just dreary. Funny people often reach a point where they just don’t know what’s funny anymore.
It’s always fascinating if you can assemble talent like this and still create something this misbegotten.
Also not enough dunking on this movie. I miss the comedic anger from people making fun of bad media.
I suspect this one didn’t touch one of Bob’s nerves , I doubt Bob was ever a fan of Sienfield or 60’s nostalga or Celebrity Executive Biopics . He also has sworn off roasting bad movies.
Didn't expect you to get ten minutes of content out of this one. Well done.
Admit it, you just wanted an excuse to tell us all about The Food That Built America, didn't you? :p
Kudos for mentioning History Challenge foods show. Great show!
It's ironic how Seinfeld is always whining about how political correctness is ruining comedy when his comedy has about as much edge as a bowling ball.
exactly, Nostalgia Critic made that point years ago in an editorial.
He should go back to real life instead of this. Oh wait... What's he do in real life? Hang out with baby bombing IDF troops and try to pick up girls from high school?
Let's hope he goes back to making crapp movies lol. As bad as they are, beats him ruining actual lives. Just sayin.....
its better to be bad then mediocre is what I am hearing?
Wasn't gonna watch this but now I'm sold