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For those ones criticizing her the TCAS alert is sooooo extremly loud. It makes jump to the roof when you are concentrated on something and that is the purpose. She reacted very quickly and precisely without panic. That is professionalism !
It’s amazing how people can judge this pilot just because she was scared. A bus driver who sees a car coming in front of him can’t be scared? It’s the same situation… a worker who hears an alarm in his factory can’t be scared?? Human beings can feel fear, it’s normal, they have to deal with it and control it, which she perfectly did!! Bravo!
Exactly this. All we saw was a burst of adrenaline. That’s how our bodies are hardwired, but people’s outward response displays differently in different individuals. Obviously.
She didn't look scared to me. She looked startled first because of the abrupt traffic warning which sounds LOUD in the cockpit because its supposed to startle the pilots. She then just looked concerned when she immediately was scanning the instruments with her eyes, then tried to get a visual on the other aircraft, after she had acknowledged the alarm and that the other pilot had control of the aircraft. She did 100% of what is expected of her. Half the people here who are passing judgment on her have no idea what they are talking about.
Love how she reacted. Adrenalin extra large there. That is how a pilot should react. Immediately she started to check radar and around her. Real good. Exactly how I want a pilot to react when I am a passenger. Those who are just like “meh” hope I don’t fly with them ever.
As a pilot I can't understand the negative comments here. This is an example of team work. Captain and first officer should and do rely on each other. A good first officer is a joy to work with.
So many stupid comments here aimed at the first officer. She was suprised for a second, so what? Those alerts are designed to get your attention and they may take you by surprise. She reacted by communicating the type of alert and who's in control, the exact right thing to do. They then analysed the conflict to see if it was a threat. Swiss train excellent pilots. Human error is still the main cause of accidents, but it's absolutely tiny compared to the amount of safe flights every day.
I agree on everything you say. She might still be new to the job but I think in general it‘s not good at all if you get a scarejump like that from a basic traffic notification, the TCAS simply notified them of a plane in their surroundings on similar height, it was not even close or else TCAS would have advised to climb or descent. If I see right the separation with the other plane was 3500 feet the moment it did the alert (maybe 500 feet but looks more like 35 than 05) and she looked really scared even afterwards. Now imagine what happens if she got a double engine out bird strike like Sully or a real TCAS alert Still she handled the rest very well and like a pro saying the right things in a clear and fast way, also very professional so thumbs up to that
Yeah, she really jumps but that's probably because these alerts are so rare. I bet anyone would have the same reaction. Note that she later catches the captain dialing in the wrong descent rate (+1000 ft/min instead of -1000 ft/min). And then later he corrects her readback of the gate number from Z12 to J12. That's exactly why you have two pilots constantly cross-checking each other.
For anyone unfamiliar those TCAS alerts are REALLY loud and catch you off guard. If you're not expecting it and are super relaxed or focused on something they can give you one hell of a fright. In real life they are nothing like what you hear in video or on flight SIMs. All the aural warning systems are designed to be heard clearly over anything that may be happening so in an ordinary, quiet cockpit they really cut through your mind. It definitely doesn't help they are still quite early in the decent, where a TCAS TA is not normally anticipated. When flying around many smaller airports they can be reasonably common but catching one in the flight levels would certainly warrant the brown pants. Probably doesn't help that some airline sim instructors make really nasty exercises during training where they throw TCAS conflicts at the pilot and assess their performance harshly leading to a fear reaction. Whilst complacency shouldn't be introduced, realistically most TCAS warnings are not warranting immediate evasive action and serve to draw the pilots attention to a potential conflict. What you really don't want to hear is a TCAS RA (resolution advisory) in which case there is high probability of conflict.
I flew a Cessna Caravan with TCAS before . Just loud but no big deal. Besides, pilots should know at all times his position, look outside whenever possible and absolutely not rely on automation. American Airlines textbook 👍🏻🍺
@@wagnergitirana a Cessna flying at 120 MPH is alot different than a jet flying below 10,000 feet at 250 Knots while looking for little Cessna airplanes that are almost impossible to see.
For those thinking that she overreacted to the TCAS alarm, air traffic collisions and stall situations are among the most dangerous situations pilots can face so it’s pretty normal to be scared by these alarms she’s an human after all but still kept a cool head
So many old bolt pilots here! If you‘re super focused at something and you‘re getting shout at by a really important system, you‘ll react just as she did… …in real life. But maybe not in front of your Flight Simulator 2020. Great crew coordination, super professional cockpit work. Greetings, another real pilot.
the way she looks at the view with all the clouds is just breathtaking. when you can still feel the luck of enjoying such views almost every day you know you chose the right job.
By reading the comments I can tell most aren’t pilot and make it sound easy pretending to know what they’re talking about. As a pilot I can tell you I always get a little inner freak out when I hear the TCAS going off, for some reason you always feel like you’re about to collide mid air and you start looking out for the traffic ready to take evasive action, which is good because that’s the whole purpose of it. I think her reaction surprised us as much as it surprised her. Pilots aren’t robots and we can face unexpected situations that we have to deal with, so her reaction was totally human. Plus you need to think that she was focused on something else and going through some checklist and then that loud warning went off. Also the plane is descending and flying fast, an A330 isn’t a Cessna, and the traffic was less than a 1000ft below them. So yeah, you need to be quick because you never know. Pilots are humans and so are the controllers, no one is safe from mistakes and it can happen that the controller forgets to pay attention. That’s why we always cross check each other and don’t take anything for granted, otherwise you might hurt yourself pretty badly. Just a pilot having a normal human reaction and a professional reaction to that. Give her a break. Safe flights. ✈️
@@CasualGlassEnjoyer Hi, sure. I am a Flight Instructor in the United States so I fly different types of small aircrafts including Cessna, Cirrus, Piper and Diamond.
@@Arcadiez i disagree . i think i'll go with Dylan the flight instructor's substantiated point of view. she just seems alert, ready , confident, and in control. "nervouse" is fear+alert but not in control.
Very good video with an authentic pilot monitoring reaction. It's real life, not a training. For all those who judge the Pilot Monitoring reaction, get your APTL, MEP, IR, MMC + 500 Hrs + QT, cross the ocean during 8 to 9 hours, jetlag in your head and do better in one of the most congested area in the world with a sudden alert in the flightdeck's right seat in a heavy airliner full of passengers... We'll enjoy the show and comment behind a screen, comfortably sitting in a chair ! Authentic reaction, normal stress and good team work and actions. Period.
also she went straight from panic to concentrated work mode. id rather have someone witht his reaction fly the plane im in than a FO thats not taking things like this seriously...
I thought she handled herself perfectly. I know I’ve had that same reaction though not in a A330. Will still rattle you in an RJ coming through NYC airspace
There are internet knowitalls everywhere. "She panicked, hurr duuurrr!" As if commenting from the comfort and anonymity of keyboard gives it any importance. Nevermind that the pilot handled the situation perfectly after being startled. Nevermind that - she just "freaked out" (no she didn't).
Humans are prone to being spooked when they don't expect something. She appeared a bit panicked for a sec, but she didn't say a single word that could cause confusion with the captain. Impressive.
00:46 "TRAFFIC TRAFFIC" -- Wow! You can tell by the way she (the first officer) jumped that that is not something they are used to (or WANT to) hear!! That being said, kudos to their professionalism and how quickly they negated the situation. Well done.
They didn't negate anything. There never was a conflict, it was TCAS freaking out. They even remarked at the climb rate of the other aircraft because that's why the TCAS alerted them to something that wasn't a real conflict.
Captain is superb... he managed co pilot very well after the TCAS Alert. Joked around and calmed her back down.. great piece of work by the pilot and co pilot very efficient
@@anguyom an awful lot more happened regarding captains management of the situation, especially just after the end of the TCAS situation.. I guess he was so good you never even spotted it.
It means that another plane is close and may hit your plane... and the TCAS alert is extremely loud and it’s made to surprise and make you immediately know about what may happen, she reacted fast and well and that’s why you’re supposed to do...
Really excellent CRM. TCAS was handled very well. Great communication between pilot (Mr. Chocolate bar) and co-pilot. Everything is checked (as per procedures) and the small number of mistakes were quickly identified and fixed. This is teamwork
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I think its really cool that they allow this to be recorded for us to watch. I used to work on the ramp in ATL (C Concourse for ASA/Delta) Some of us really cared about planes and customers, while the majority didn't seem to really care. It was rough. But it was an awesome job.. just wish it paid more, hence my "used" to work there. But I have no regrets .. it was such an awesome experience.
Excellent presentation of teamwork and crew coordination. Quite impressive.. What's unique for me is how the two transition between English and their native language without missing a beat. That was cool. . .and awe inspiring to listen and learn.
Rob M it’s pretty common in Asia especially where most of the population are bilingual. As for India, many are trilingual and some even speak 5-6 language with ease. Just an average thing here.
99.87% of comments: "Huuur duuuur she got scared when the TCAS alert sounded! Huur duuuuurp!" Meanwhile, literally half a second later, she responds perfectly and takes care of the issue. How about you all get certified to fly a plane like this, get your flight hours racked up, fly in a congested area and see how well you do when your plane gives a warning of immediate danger?
Nice vid, as it shows the importance good apprenticeship and learning from senior personnel. Co-Pilot Jenny Knecht was really spooked by the TCAS alert and showed how important it is to learn and to adhere to accurate, to he point communication on flight deck. Now, 4 years later, she has more than 3500 flight hours per yt and is certainly a well-trained highly professional pilot. Tap my head for the honesty and openness to show the little bumps from the early days. This is how we learn, after all
That's very politically correct! I don't think she learned much from that captain that day. Instead, I would say she was an excellent FO, picking up the Captain's errors quickly and without fuss. I doubt very much that SOPs require the FO to say "TCAS You have control" which shows she reacted faster than the Captain could... so yes... she got an adrenaline rush! A good experience. Sometimes its hard to say nothing and wait.
For all you armchair sim-pilots, consider this: When you're driving a car, and someone you don't see blows his horn, you jump big-time. That's what she did--nothing more. She did not panic and shove the yoke to the firewall. She flinched and recovered in less than one second. If she hadn't jumped, it would have proven she knew nothing of TCAS. We wouldn't want that.
A10PANG She got a fright. The fright reaction serves the organism to quickly adapt to a threat. And that's what she did. Panic is something completely different.
I know some comments highlight how the copilot was startled by the TCAS alert, but that is only human. The copilot immediately dealt with the situation (although full disclosure I’m not a pilot). The copilot also seemed to be confident and competent when she corrected her captain when he entered a steep positive vertical speed during the approach. If I was a captain, I’d want a copilot like that to have my back.
Stefan McShane No question. I really enjoy this crew. Outstanding CRM, plus you can tell they love flying. I’m curious if either fly Sailplanes on off time?
Great job. I love this team and their clear communications in the cockpit. I miss my visits to Switzerland. My son moved from Breitenback to Prague due to a job change. Can't wait to fly there and take in the local culture.
You really think so, despite the number of 'mistakes/errors/deviations' they made in the footage? I'm thinking too, you don't actually know enough about what was occurring in the footage, to understand what mistakes were made?
In the 048 minute the scare that the first officer gave when TICAS warned, but very professional I congratulate her, since she resolved the problem in the best way,
superb teamwork , when you flying with so many souls on board and on your shoulders , its so natural to be over alert and senses higtened , tcas is a red alarm, i salute the captain and fo for amazing teamwork flying
Crystal clear visuals and editing. Even I jumped with Tcas, but could not see the traffic. I would have thought ATC would have kept separation, unless it was those balloons that was mentioned! A fantastic clip from the group. Loved it. 👍
At 1:04 if you look on your screen just under the “.” after the “210kt.” in the subtitles you can see another aircraft. It will be moving right to left on your screen.
Just shows how busy it can get. Imagine throwing in bad weather & bad visibility into the mix with a bit more traffic . I think everybody who has flown a plane has felt overloaded at some time.She is very quick with her responses. There is a lot happening here & they are really working as a crew.CRM in action. Great video . That TCAS alert made her jump. People who say some pilots are overpaid take note of all that going on here.
Steegie yes she was , He calmed her down though.. You could see everything build up on her.The TCAS message she wasn’t expecting . She wouldn’t be on video or an FO on a 330 if she wasn’t a very competent pilot . I went into Sydney with storms around in the jumpseat before 2001 & was stunned at how busy it got. I had felt it & seen it as a private pilot things started to overload, that is why in my very amateurish opinion CRM is so effective.
A beautiful display of human factors, good CRM and good airmanship. Although there were many minor mistakes as every human does the bigger picture and point was never lost and priority was given to flying the airplanes at all times.
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Thank you for sharing this with us. We greatly appreciate the professionalism and unique expertise you both bring to your roles. The complexity of tasks during approach, takeoff, and mid-flight is truly remarkable.
Seems that lady pilot is a bit nervous , But she didn't forget procedures even in panic situations. That's really awosome and they really enjoyed the flight and so as we..Hats off for this hero.
I agree. I'm sure, though, that any pilot's stomach might do a flip flop if the TCAS went off. I really enjoyed the cloud surfing!! Great video and great coordination among the pilots. Well done!
While both pilots seem good at their jobs, can we please not call everyone and everything a "hero" for just doing their job? A hero is someone who goes above and beyond the call of duty, putting themselves at risk for the sake of others.
Beautifull to watch. This is an example of great communication and good CRM in the cockpit. You have a skilled and keen FO with an experiensed CA that is showing appresiation for this. I am a Boeing guy so I dont know anythging about flying that plane, but I can tell that that it is an optimum approach from a communication and crew coordination point of view. Well done.
Even though this is about the TCAS alert, there were at least or 4 non-ideal things that happened in this video (the FO being startled by the loud TCAS is not one of them). The captain set the descent rate backward (ie. climb - which was caught by the FO), and the captain also missed a turn and had to be reminded by ATC. Then ATC gave a poor instruction in clearing them to land making it sound like they had to avoid crossing a runway (the latter was intended for a different aircraft but ATC ran them together and even I said "wtf?" to myself when I first heard it). The FO read back the instruction (ideally I think she should have questioned it right away) but ATC realized from her readback that it was misunderstood and immediately correected it.
good analysis, thanks. I was trying to figure out what they meant by hold short of 12 during the landing...? Didnt make sense. Thanks for clarifying that it was an ATC mistake.
@@fiveoboy01 okay, then I'm still confused. Can you break down exactly what he was saying because it sure sounded to me like he told her to hold short of another runway once he gave her the runway she was clear to land on. At this point I don't remember the exact phrasing, I'll have to watch it again.
@@gemini636501 ATC said “clear to land runway 9, traffic landing runway 12 will hold short of your runway.” The copilot didnt hear the controller and read it back incorrectly.
It was TCAS warning sounding off and it's likely she jumped since it wasn't expected but they took action quickly and identified where the "close" traffic was in relation to them. I would bet that TCAS doesn't sound off very often on commercial flights so it might startle some pilots. Very professional cockpit, good situational awareness and coordination.
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Ich hab noch nicht alle eure Videos durch, aber ne Frage: Habt ihr ein Video, wo man auch den Crew Rest Bereich sieht bzw. wie der Crew-Wechsel auf langen Strecken funktioniert?
This is a simulator. Not real flying.
dd you are talking shit! now fly away fool!
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For those ones criticizing her the TCAS alert is sooooo extremly loud. It makes jump to the roof when you are concentrated on something and that is the purpose. She reacted very quickly and precisely without panic. That is professionalism !
The only guy in the world, allowed to critize her, is her Capt! He applauded her handling. So zip it!
@@ManuelCastro-ns5sd lol i think it was just a joke..
Well she made completely the wrong callouts for the incident but sure, acted precisely lol
It’s amazing how people can judge this pilot just because she was scared. A bus driver who sees a car coming in front of him can’t be scared? It’s the same situation… a worker who hears an alarm in his factory can’t be scared?? Human beings can feel fear, it’s normal, they have to deal with it and control it, which she perfectly did!! Bravo!
You are absolutely right. She is sincerely doing her job, after more experience she will be great pilot 👍
@@narendraganu4996 absolutely
You are right I totally agree with you
Exactly this. All we saw was a burst of adrenaline. That’s how our bodies are hardwired, but people’s outward response displays differently in different individuals. Obviously.
She didn't look scared to me. She looked startled first because of the abrupt traffic warning which sounds LOUD in the cockpit because its supposed to startle the pilots. She then just looked concerned when she immediately was scanning the instruments with her eyes, then tried to get a visual on the other aircraft, after she had acknowledged the alarm and that the other pilot had control of the aircraft. She did 100% of what is expected of her. Half the people here who are passing judgment on her have no idea what they are talking about.
Love how she reacted. Adrenalin extra large there. That is how a pilot should react. Immediately she started to check radar and around her. Real good. Exactly how I want a pilot to react when I am a passenger. Those who are just like “meh” hope I don’t fly with them ever.
As a pilot I can't understand the negative comments here. This is an example of team work. Captain and first officer should and do rely on each other. A good first officer is a joy to work with.
So many stupid comments here aimed at the first officer. She was suprised for a second, so what? Those alerts are designed to get your attention and they may take you by surprise. She reacted by communicating the type of alert and who's in control, the exact right thing to do. They then analysed the conflict to see if it was a threat. Swiss train excellent pilots. Human error is still the main cause of accidents, but it's absolutely tiny compared to the amount of safe flights every day.
Paul Redmond hello i dont see which commentaries you mean to the copi by the captain After ticas alert ? ftr
Pascal J If you look down you’ll see loads of comments criticising the first officer and captain.
I agree on everything you say.
She might still be new to the job but I think in general it‘s not good at all if you get a scarejump like that from a basic traffic notification, the TCAS simply notified them of a plane in their surroundings on similar height, it was not even close or else TCAS would have advised to climb or descent. If I see right the separation with the other plane was 3500 feet the moment it did the alert (maybe 500 feet but looks more like 35 than 05) and she looked really scared even afterwards.
Now imagine what happens if she got a double engine out bird strike like Sully or a real TCAS alert
Still she handled the rest very well and like a pro saying the right things in a clear and fast way, also very professional so thumbs up to that
Yeah, she really jumps but that's probably because these alerts are so rare. I bet anyone would have the same reaction. Note that she later catches the captain dialing in the wrong descent rate (+1000 ft/min instead of -1000 ft/min). And then later he corrects her readback of the gate number from Z12 to J12. That's exactly why you have two pilots constantly cross-checking each other.
ApolloWasReal exactly right.
For anyone unfamiliar those TCAS alerts are REALLY loud and catch you off guard. If you're not expecting it and are super relaxed or focused on something they can give you one hell of a fright. In real life they are nothing like what you hear in video or on flight SIMs. All the aural warning systems are designed to be heard clearly over anything that may be happening so in an ordinary, quiet cockpit they really cut through your mind. It definitely doesn't help they are still quite early in the decent, where a TCAS TA is not normally anticipated. When flying around many smaller airports they can be reasonably common but catching one in the flight levels would certainly warrant the brown pants.
Probably doesn't help that some airline sim instructors make really nasty exercises during training where they throw TCAS conflicts at the pilot and assess their performance harshly leading to a fear reaction. Whilst complacency shouldn't be introduced, realistically most TCAS warnings are not warranting immediate evasive action and serve to draw the pilots attention to a potential conflict. What you really don't want to hear is a TCAS RA (resolution advisory) in which case there is high probability of conflict.
Every time I ear TCAS I remember what happened to Flight 2937 an DHL 611.. So sad for that..
What doesn't help is when both pilots are heads down watching instrument's
the two places I have the most TCAS alerts are Newark area and Florida. They will definitely get your attention.
I flew a Cessna Caravan with TCAS before . Just loud but no big deal. Besides, pilots should know at all times his position, look outside whenever possible and absolutely not rely on automation. American Airlines textbook 👍🏻🍺
@@wagnergitirana a Cessna flying at 120 MPH is alot different than a jet flying below 10,000 feet at 250 Knots while looking for little Cessna airplanes that are almost impossible to see.
For those thinking that she overreacted to the TCAS alarm, air traffic collisions and stall situations are among the most dangerous situations pilots can face so it’s pretty normal to be scared by these alarms she’s an human after all but still kept a cool head
Yes but people prefer judging without knowledge…
She is gaining valuable experience dealing with TCAS alarms. THIS is precisely what makes great pilots.
It made me jump and I’m reclining on my couch!
The man was cool and professional. That’s the kind of reaction I expect from a pilot.
So many old bolt pilots here!
If you‘re super focused at something and you‘re getting shout at by a really important system, you‘ll react just as she did…
…in real life. But maybe not in front of your Flight Simulator 2020.
Great crew coordination, super professional cockpit work.
Greetings, another real pilot.
the way she looks at the view with all the clouds is just breathtaking. when you can still feel the luck of enjoying such views almost every day you know you chose the right job.
By reading the comments I can tell most aren’t pilot and make it sound easy pretending to know what they’re talking about. As a pilot I can tell you I always get a little inner freak out when I hear the TCAS going off, for some reason you always feel like you’re about to collide mid air and you start looking out for the traffic ready to take evasive action, which is good because that’s the whole purpose of it. I think her reaction surprised us as much as it surprised her. Pilots aren’t robots and we can face unexpected situations that we have to deal with, so her reaction was totally human. Plus you need to think that she was focused on something else and going through some checklist and then that loud warning went off. Also the plane is descending and flying fast, an A330 isn’t a Cessna, and the traffic was less than a 1000ft below them. So yeah, you need to be quick because you never know. Pilots are humans and so are the controllers, no one is safe from mistakes and it can happen that the controller forgets to pay attention. That’s why we always cross check each other and don’t take anything for granted, otherwise you might hurt yourself pretty badly. Just a pilot having a normal human reaction and a professional reaction to that. Give her a break. Safe flights. ✈️
IHi Dylan I fly a airbus a330. Do you mind me asking what aircraft you fly?
@@CasualGlassEnjoyer Hi, sure. I am a Flight Instructor in the United States so I fly different types of small aircrafts including Cessna, Cirrus, Piper and Diamond.
Well said Dylan!
You can see her nervouse behaviour through out the flight. Could been her first flight to miami.
@@Arcadiez i disagree . i think i'll go with Dylan the flight instructor's substantiated point of view. she just seems alert, ready , confident, and in control. "nervouse" is fear+alert but not in control.
Very good video with an authentic pilot monitoring reaction. It's real life, not a training. For all those who judge the Pilot Monitoring reaction, get your APTL, MEP, IR, MMC + 500 Hrs + QT, cross the ocean during 8 to 9 hours, jetlag in your head and do better in one of the most congested area in the world with a sudden alert in the flightdeck's right seat in a heavy airliner full of passengers... We'll enjoy the show and comment behind a screen, comfortably sitting in a chair !
Authentic reaction, normal stress and good team work and actions.
Period.
also she went straight from panic to concentrated work mode. id rather have someone witht his reaction fly the plane im in than a FO thats not taking things like this seriously...
I thought she handled herself perfectly. I know I’ve had that same reaction though not in a A330. Will still rattle you in an RJ coming through NYC airspace
Christophe Folio Thanks for the lecture Captain Knowitall !
There are internet knowitalls everywhere. "She panicked, hurr duuurrr!" As if commenting from the comfort and anonymity of keyboard gives it any importance. Nevermind that the pilot handled the situation perfectly after being startled. Nevermind that - she just "freaked out" (no she didn't).
Humans are prone to being spooked when they don't expect something. She appeared a bit panicked for a sec, but she didn't say a single word that could cause confusion with the captain. Impressive.
Agreed. Was no more but a surprise. You could see that it vanished immediately and transformed into focus.
That's what the alarm is supposed to do. To get your attention immidiately. Looks like it worked ;) Both pilots handled it well.
00:46 "TRAFFIC TRAFFIC" -- Wow! You can tell by the way she (the first officer) jumped that that is not something they are used to (or WANT to) hear!! That being said, kudos to their professionalism and how quickly they negated the situation. Well done.
It's the shaker stick, that thing will make you jump if you're not expecting it.
They didn't negate anything. There never was a conflict, it was TCAS freaking out. They even remarked at the climb rate of the other aircraft because that's why the TCAS alerted them to something that wasn't a real conflict.
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Captain is superb... he managed co pilot very well after the TCAS Alert. Joked around and calmed her back down.. great piece of work by the pilot and co pilot very efficient
Indeed. he calmly took action to resolve the traffic alert and the co-pilot immediately handed over control upon the traffic advisory !
@@anguyom an awful lot more happened regarding captains management of the situation, especially just after the end of the TCAS situation.. I guess he was so good you never even spotted it.
It means that another plane is close and may hit your plane... and the TCAS alert is extremely loud and it’s made to surprise and make you immediately know about what may happen, she reacted fast and well and that’s why you’re supposed to do...
@@hivram OMG I know what it is you tool. Both pilots reacted well and the captain worked his man management to perfection....
@@litchfiedr i explained what the TCAS was because a few people were asking in other comments so it was faster to explain by just copy and paste 😂😅
Really excellent CRM. TCAS was handled very well. Great communication between pilot (Mr. Chocolate bar) and co-pilot. Everything is checked (as per procedures) and the small number of mistakes were quickly identified and fixed. This is teamwork
I took a few flying lessons, enough to realize I wasn’t cut out for it. Pilots truly have my respect.
I don't blame her. Those drums scared the shit out of me too.
These two are such pros. And really well produced too.
That TCAS got their attention!
Big respect to all pilots! I'm a lay person but I really underestimated how busy they are before a landing. Amazing job.
Thank you. As a pilot myself, I would like to say; Pocketa-Pocketa-Pocketa… )))))))
At the TCAS warning FO literally jumped while she was focused in her tasks. Nicely done.
0:47
Ein sehr gutes Beispiel für eine gute Crew! Beide Piloten ergänzen sich wunderbar.
I love these videos. Please, please, please; it does not need the dramatic music. These are so much better without the music.
She was terrific, first-class performance, and easy company on the flight deck. Well done !
I like how they instantly jumped into action with the collision alert.
Seems like both of them were a little shocked with the TCAS Alert :D
You can clearly see how their training kicks in ... exceptional work. It took just a milisecond and she was in control of the situation.
True realism, thank you. It's amazing how much takes place in the last 10 minutes of a flight that the average passenger never will understand.
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I am in awe of the amount of info Jenni has to process in such a short time during descent and landing
So...amazing for a woman, right?
The FO got me startled as well. I love that she took a deep breath and got her head back in the game
I think its really cool that they allow this to be recorded for us to watch. I used to work on the ramp in ATL (C Concourse for ASA/Delta) Some of us really cared about planes and customers, while the majority didn't seem to really care. It was rough. But it was an awesome job.. just wish it paid more, hence my "used" to work there. But I have no regrets .. it was such an awesome experience.
Confessing their mistakes is why they are good pilots. Good camaraderie between the two.
I totally agree.
Excellent presentation of teamwork and crew coordination. Quite impressive.. What's unique for me is how the two transition between English and their native language without missing a beat. That was cool. . .and awe inspiring to listen and learn.
It's an interesting phenomenon that happens with all multilingual people called "code-switching", if you're interested.
Rob M it’s pretty common in Asia especially where most of the population are bilingual. As for India, many are trilingual and some even speak 5-6 language with ease. Just an average thing here.
What native English speakers don't realise is that code switching is more of a norm than an exception
The traffic warning sounds very loud in the cockpit. Jenny probably jumped just because of the high volume level.
What a girl. She is so special.
99.87% of comments:
"Huuur duuuur she got scared when the TCAS alert sounded! Huur duuuuurp!"
Meanwhile, literally half a second later, she responds perfectly and takes care of the issue.
How about you all get certified to fly a plane like this, get your flight hours racked up, fly in a congested area and see how well you do when your plane gives a warning of immediate danger?
tubez4321
Yup, she started looking with the quickness, she'll be looking from left side instead of the right side before long.
Well said!
“Vertical speed -1000”
She: “oh you’ve entered +1000”
This girl saved the day 👍
Co pilot is adorable! Luv the accent!
Greg Smith
Yes Jenni is a very affable woman...she's a friend of mine on "messenger"(FB)
They are so professional, it’s inspiring to watch them.
The look on her face when she saw “traffic“, priceless..
Good job pilots
Nice vid, as it shows the importance good apprenticeship and learning from senior personnel. Co-Pilot Jenny Knecht was really spooked by the TCAS alert and showed how important it is to learn and to adhere to accurate, to he point communication on flight deck.
Now, 4 years later, she has more than 3500 flight hours per yt and is certainly a well-trained highly professional pilot.
Tap my head for the honesty and openness to show the little bumps from the early days.
This is how we learn, after all
A TCAS alert in that airspace will make ANYONE jump.
@@kingofcastlechaos The volume is so loud, "TRAFFIC!" would make anyone jump in any airspace!
That's very politically correct! I don't think she learned much from that captain that day. Instead, I would say she was an excellent FO, picking up the Captain's errors quickly and without fuss.
I doubt very much that SOPs require the FO to say "TCAS You have control" which shows she reacted faster than the Captain could... so yes... she got an adrenaline rush! A good experience. Sometimes its hard to say nothing and wait.
A+ for teamwork. I got goosebumps when they both said runway is in sight.
When the steward comes in at 13.20 I thought he was going to say " Good luck, we're all counting on you" !! LOL
hahaha love this comment.
literally LOL!!!!
That's GREAT!!!
Give me a vector, Victor
Totally awesome comment!
Very Professional crew . Well done guys. The captain and co-pilot did very well and thank God for ACAS
Whoops a typo ..that should have read TCAS
Dear Captain I watched your other videos. You are a true professional. I bet your first officers feel confident flying with you. Thank you sir
For all you armchair sim-pilots, consider this: When you're driving a car, and someone you don't see blows his horn, you jump big-time. That's what she did--nothing more. She did not panic and shove the yoke to the firewall. She flinched and recovered in less than one second. If she hadn't jumped, it would have proven she knew nothing of TCAS. We wouldn't want that.
She panicked for a sec dude. Get over it. Youre 1 of them guys that takes a dump but wont call it 1 arent you? lol
A10PANG She got a fright. The fright reaction serves the organism to quickly adapt to a threat. And that's what she did. Panic is something completely different.
I'm sick and tired!
@Mario I'm sick of losing.
'shove the yoke to the firewall'?
Why would she put the aircraft into a higher rate of descent, when the 'traffic' was below them?
PIC: "There's the airport, I'll fly it in visually..." ATC: "Swiss 64 heavy, get your ass back on course."
I know some comments highlight how the copilot was startled by the TCAS alert, but that is only human. The copilot immediately dealt with the situation (although full disclosure I’m not a pilot). The copilot also seemed to be confident and competent when she corrected her captain when he entered a steep positive vertical speed during the approach. If I was a captain, I’d want a copilot like that to have my back.
Horse Shit
The first officer is exceptional! The Captain is too comfortable plus he is working her to the max. Great work Jenny!!👏🎉
ERAU 80 CFIA&I ret.
Hey you guys what a sweet landing, I didn't realise the cockpit was so busy,, You guys rock, and work very well together,,
They both sucked
I have watched many cockpit videos, this one give me the sense what is actually happening in real life. Great for sharing
These two work great as a team and keep each other correct even when mistakes where made.
Stefan McShane
No question. I really enjoy this crew. Outstanding CRM, plus you can tell they love flying. I’m curious if either fly Sailplanes on off time?
As a native german speaker, I love their Swiss-German Dialect, really fun pronounciation.
First Officer, she is sharp!
I like the way she confirms all milestones to Captain.
She's a great team colleague!
Her accent makes everything great!! Great job crew..
she´s so awsome !
Thèse type of videos..... make you feel confident taking planes as normal passenger ! Well done !
the second pilot's face made me watch this, and the video really is incredible...
let's thank them for sharing their cockpit with us * * * * *
Excellent video, great CRM, thank you for sharing
Have you ever had one of those moments similar to the FO, Captain?
Great video would like more Videos from this channel
Great job. I love this team and their clear communications in the cockpit. I miss my visits to Switzerland. My son moved from Breitenback to Prague due to a job change. Can't wait to fly there and take in the local culture.
These are the exact type of pilots that I dream of having. What a team!
I like the reaction of the first officer when TRAFFIC is playing!Very reactive,very good job
The mix between english, german and swiss german 😂
Hottttt
5% Swiss xd
Love that 1st officer.... she ran that flight deck excellently.
This is the best crew ever imo
Total trust, perfect team work
You really think so, despite the number of 'mistakes/errors/deviations' they made in the footage?
I'm thinking too, you don't actually know enough about what was occurring in the footage, to understand what mistakes were made?
This is the realist flight video there is. I come back and watch a lot. The co-piliot was stunned
The co-pilot was “stunned”? You reckon. Within two seconds she was reacting completely by the book.
the first officer's reaction when the TCAS warning went off is priceless, well that was her 1st experience with the TCAS
She almost jumped out of her seat
@@TheRscott903 Hope she packed clean underwear in her overnight bag!
It's a very natural reaction i'd say.
wow people give her a break she got caught off guard, she was concentrating, but she got it together within 2 seconds ... it's human
In the 048 minute the scare that the first officer gave when TICAS warned, but very professional I congratulate her, since she resolved the problem in the best way,
Scare? To me it seemed more like a shock! :D
superb teamwork , when you flying with so many souls on board and on your shoulders , its so natural to be over alert and senses higtened , tcas is a red alarm, i salute the captain and fo for amazing teamwork flying
Fantastic relationship between the pilots.
Crystal clear visuals and editing. Even I jumped with Tcas, but could not see the traffic. I would have thought ATC would have kept separation, unless it was those balloons that was mentioned! A fantastic clip from the group. Loved it. 👍
I jumped too , I thought Oh Boy here we go !
At 1:04 if you look on your screen just under the “.” after the “210kt.” in the subtitles you can see another aircraft. It will be moving right to left on your screen.
This was incredible to watch the teamwork and the corrections was brilliant.
Awesome Swiss Airlines vídeo, a Great Job at cockpit for all the crews. A hug❤
Just shows how busy it can get. Imagine throwing in bad weather & bad visibility into the mix with a bit more traffic . I think everybody who has flown a plane has felt overloaded at some time.She is very quick with her responses. There is a lot happening here & they are really working as a crew.CRM in action. Great video . That TCAS alert made her jump. People who say some pilots are overpaid take note of all that going on here.
She seemed overly stressed to have jumped through her skin like she did at 0:49. Hopefully experience will take care of that.
Steegie yes she was , He calmed her down though.. You could see everything build up on her.The TCAS message she wasn’t expecting . She wouldn’t be on video or an FO on a 330 if she wasn’t a very competent pilot . I went into Sydney with storms around in the jumpseat before 2001 & was stunned at how busy it got. I had felt it & seen it as a private pilot things started to overload, that is why in my very amateurish opinion CRM is so effective.
0:45 she jumped on “TRAFFIC” but handled it beautifully! Amazing co-pilot!
A beautiful display of human factors, good CRM and good airmanship. Although there were many minor mistakes as every human does the bigger picture and point was never lost and priority was given to flying the airplanes at all times.
Thank you for the nice compliment. If the snippet whets your appetite, here's the full episode, including Greek subs. petv.co/vodmia
Have a good flight and have fun!
hope so !
Thank you for sharing this with us. We greatly appreciate the professionalism and unique expertise you both bring to your roles. The complexity of tasks during approach, takeoff, and mid-flight is truly remarkable.
Their voices are very soothing to hear.
Look at her reaction when she heard TRAFFIC WARNINGS.. that’s so natural for anybody.
Ich hab erstmal nen Herzinfarkt bekommen bei der plötzlich einsetzenden Action-Musik und dem Schreck der Co-Pilotin :D
I can always watch the DVD. It's so great. And Jenni told me few days ago, she still flies for SWISS. 🥰
Two fine pilots. Great team work. 👏
00:46 She about jumps out of the seat!!!!
It should be 0:47
FO got a little startled there when TCAS alert popped in there. 😃
happened to me probably 10 times, I jumped out of my seat each time. the volume is set really high on these suckers
Hello. Lots of work going on inside the flightdeck. Thank you for letting us visit you both (safely).
Love it. It amazes me how you repeat what the ATC says so well!
That is mandatory procedure, and it avoids any unnecessary confusion regarding requests and instructions.
When TCAS when off, I though she was going to jump out of her seat. So cool. I love this channel
Me too ! You know damn well she piddled a bit in her panties :-)
Thomas Frick is now COO of Swiss - his background and CRM is amazingly good.
Exceptional response to TCAS alert. You can tell their training is top notch!
Umm no it was very inappropriate.
Seems that lady pilot is a bit nervous , But she didn't forget procedures even in panic situations. That's really awosome and they really enjoyed the flight and so as we..Hats off for this hero.
I agree. I'm sure, though, that any pilot's stomach might do a flip flop if the TCAS went off. I really enjoyed the cloud surfing!! Great video and great coordination among the pilots. Well done!
@@nenblom u r right bro.
While both pilots seem good at their jobs, can we please not call everyone and everything a "hero" for just doing their job? A hero is someone who goes above and beyond the call of duty, putting themselves at risk for the sake of others.
I'm a recently retired 747 captain for United Airlines your CRM is perfect. Excellent job.
are you married? lol 😜
Like Ed Gunderson
Sehr gut gemacht
Cargospotter , was denn?
Hhhj
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Ctttttrsteie tea yew yy
@@htz26129 oo
Thanks for flying in the Cockpit with you two.
great video showing very nice teamwork from a very professional crew in a very complex aircraft....
why such negative comments...they worked well together
She reacted perfectly and professionally
Beautifull to watch. This is an example of great communication and good CRM in the cockpit. You have a skilled and keen FO with an experiensed CA that is showing appresiation for this. I am a Boeing guy so I dont know anythging about flying that plane, but I can tell that that it is an optimum approach from a communication and crew coordination point of view. Well done.
Wow, beautiful swing through that cloud gap!!
Even though this is about the TCAS alert, there were at least or 4 non-ideal things that happened in this video (the FO being startled by the loud TCAS is not one of them). The captain set the descent rate backward (ie. climb - which was caught by the FO), and the captain also missed a turn and had to be reminded by ATC. Then ATC gave a poor instruction in clearing them to land making it sound like they had to avoid crossing a runway (the latter was intended for a different aircraft but ATC ran them together and even I said "wtf?" to myself when I first heard it). The FO read back the instruction (ideally I think she should have questioned it right away) but ATC realized from her readback that it was misunderstood and immediately correected it.
good analysis, thanks. I was trying to figure out what they meant by hold short of 12 during the landing...? Didnt make sense. Thanks for clarifying that it was an ATC mistake.
@@gemini636501 it wasn’t an ATC mistake, she didn’t understand the landing clearance.
There was nothing wrong with the landing clearance phraseology. The FO misunderstood it.
@@fiveoboy01 okay, then I'm still confused. Can you break down exactly what he was saying because it sure sounded to me like he told her to hold short of another runway once he gave her the runway she was clear to land on. At this point I don't remember the exact phrasing, I'll have to watch it again.
@@gemini636501 ATC said “clear to land runway 9, traffic landing runway 12 will hold short of your runway.” The copilot didnt hear the controller and read it back incorrectly.
wow.... I wonder how loud "Traffic" was.... she jumped.
It was TCAS warning sounding off and it's likely she jumped since it wasn't expected but they took action quickly and identified where the "close" traffic was in relation to them. I would bet that TCAS doesn't sound off very often on commercial flights so it might startle some pilots. Very professional cockpit, good situational awareness and coordination.
Yes, within split second they went back to work it was so good. I would've screamed "HOLY F**K, WHERE IS IT WHERE IS IT" :)