Hang on ... the bit where I’m zoomed into the timetable. The 13:51 DOESN’T have an ‘X’ by it! Did I just manage to get the only non-request stop train of the whole week by chance?
I think they omit Hawarden Bridge during the week because the turnarounds on the Borderlands Line are very, very, very tight. Just two minutes at the Bidston end, and if the timetable is to be believed it's only got negative one minutes(!) at Wrexham Central. Adding in the stop at Hawarden Bridge (even on request) would significantly risk reliability just to serve a lightly used station that's just a short walk from Shotton. They do this to get an hourly service using just two trains. However, there's a lower frequency on Sunday so the trains have more time at each end. This makes it easier to fit in stops at Hawarden Bridge.
5:36 That is Dee Marsh SB, controlling the sidings of Dee Marsh, for steel trains to/from Margam, and where cement trains to Avonmouth stop for the loco to run around So, it is still in use.
@@markwright3161 nope it's a rather awkward station to stop at really - I was amazed that TFW Kept it open yet temporally stopped services elsewhere in wales
Don't know if you've done a "bikes on train" video. If not, I for one would be very interested to see that. I've been taking bikes on trains since the 1970's. As you'll imagine, things have changed a lot in that time. No brake vans these days for a start. Barrow crossings were great for pushbikes 'cause they could save you having to lug your bike up and down stairs. Nice vid Geoff. Ta.
Many years ago that was one of the most used stations on the Borderlands line. Hundreds of people used it to get to work at Shotton Steelworks. I was one of them.
I used to cross that crossing to walk from my office to the visit the personnel dept when the station was in the middle of Shotton Steel works. The plant has retreated somewhat in recent years as you discovered. There was a road tunnel under but no pavement. Hence we crossed the railway to the personnel building which was right next to the station if we walked. Your final clip in the distance shows what was the head office overlooking the Dee. Really nice building with lovely tiled staircase
You can't trust automated announcements for pronunciation - the prerecorded ones don't always use local knowledge! I like the arguments between the conductor and the computer on the TransPennine stopping trains: 📻 The next station is ... Slay-thwaite 👩🏻💼 We are now approaching Sla-wit 📻 We have now arrived at *Slay-thwaite* 👩🏻💼 *Sla-wit* ... this station is *SLA-WIT* 👩🏻💼 [disappears off to the back cab with a determined expression and a lump hammer]
Love the use of good old Rail Alphabet for the station name. Geoff, your monochrome mime seems to be pushing a trolley. Surely a barrow crossing would be traversed with a barrow (just 2 wheels, and you'd need to lift it as well as push it). You'll need to go back and re-mime :)
And the trolley was pushed onto the rails before checking it was clear, that was potential to have to mime a nasty accident and some disgruntled passengers who's luggage is not spread all over the tracks :)
Give them time. There are a *LOT* of videos on RUclips for the Dislike All Group, AKA (rather appropriately) DAGs, to get around to. The Like/Dislike ratio will, in all likelihood, tend toward a ten to one ratio over geologic time.
I thought the same, although you can see how his friend has tried to guide his pronunciations (dd="th", but the wrong 'th' sound), so at least he's tried. "Must try harder" for the next Welsh visit though :-)
@@whyamiwhat i like to think it was someone in a windowless office in Whitehall who saw that Wrexham, Buckley, Brymbo etc were in the north-east (of Wales) and decreed they had to be in the LNER
The line was operated by the Great Central Railway which became part of the LNER in the 1923 grouping. The same is true for the line to Chester Northgate and the route from Chester to Manchester via Delamere. At Caergwrle station, there is still an old LNER waiting shelter and the signal box is an old Great Central one. There are local links to the Goods Consortium relating to the old Cheshire Lines Committee.
Not far from me have cycled that path a lot! I’ve noticed TFW are in the process of painting a lot of the station fixtures etc out of the old blue Arriva into the new TFW Wales colours. I’m English but live in Wales it’s taken me a few years to get the say the Welsh names correctly. The electronic announcements are pretty terrible 😂. Great video
Hi Geoff, I watched this and I too was interested in why on a Sunday, this station has a lot of services, but on other days, hardly any. It reminded me of a local bus service where I live, the Number 2, from Westcroft to Newport Pagnell (Both in Milton Keynes). The main service, which is run by Arriva to make a profit, is usually only run once per hour. However, on evenings and weekends, the Arriva buses are partly funded by Milton Keynes Council so they run more frequently (Usually every 1/2 hour) and they extend the route from its usual terminus, to a few miles along, to Renny Lodge, a new housing estate.
Another awesome video Geoff, thanks. Not sure if the completionist in you is interested, but you have a missing station on the map 2:06. It’s missing Upton by Chester that closed just before Bache opened and would appear just north of it. You can still see the remains of it from the buses that run up Liverpool Road in Chester.
I guess lower passenger numbers and thus shorter stopping times on sunday always allow for the additional stop. When you look at the timetable, for proceeding to following station it states 11 minutes including the request stop on weekdays. It is 10 minutes including the request stop on sundays. We have similar situations with train schedules around here. Once peak hour is reached, the train starts skipping 1 or 2 stops on every journey. Otherwise they would not be able to make the given time table.
Transport for Wales/Vivarail are currently testing 2 of 5 Class 230s on this line. They will eventually replace the Sprinters. 230006 and 230007 are the 2 that have been delivered so far. I was hoping Geoff would capture them.
Barrow crossings.....on this line alone, Hawarden Bridge, Harwarden, Buckley, Penn-y-fford, Hope, and Gwersyltt. Harwarden also has a footbridge, and is the only intermeadiate station to do so.
You should come to Bristol one day and go along the Bristol to Bath cycle path, it’s an old railway alignment that’s now a cycling path but it goes through the old railway tunnels and some of the station platforms remain and there’s even some station building remains, not to mention the over bridges and underpasses
You went a few months early Geoff! TFW are currently test-running D-trains (ex-London Underground) on that line, I presume with a view to introducing them on service trains soon. You could have had a little bit of London in North Wales!
Harwarden Bridge is also the least used station in Flintshire as well. But it also bizarre that it get more trains on a Sunday than the weekday, I think that exit which was locked took people to a steel works if I remember, becuase I did visit Harwarden Bridge back in January but I did it on a weekday by walking it from Shotton... and yes the pronunciation is very difficult! great video.
For some reason, Geoff haunting that empty station on the Borderlands Line with all of its fences and clanging gates had a bit of a Sapphire & Steel vibe to it.
There is a gated crossing at Carlsbad, California that passenger use to cross a single high speed track between the train platform and the connecting local buses, as well as the west side of downtown. There are electric bells and warning lights to alert people when a train is approaching. This is very important because all the Amtrak trains pass this station at about 65 MPH, and there is a curve on the north end of the station. Anyway, I don't know if the gate is interlocked with the bells. Obviously, it has to swing open if someone is crossing the tracks when the bells start to ring -- or simply in the name of humanity of a train should be bearing down on them. However, I'm not sure if the gate locks automatically to prevent people from crossing the tracks when a train is approaching. I thought about all that when I saw and heard how many gates there are at this little station. The gates do not seem to have much function, unless they are electrically locked when a train passes, as well.
There are 10,000 of foot crossings on the railways and all are risk assessed. Most rely on the walker checking for trains approaching. Some busy ones are fitted with lights and yodels. In 2012 Network Rail (NR) were fined £1m after 2 teenage girls were killed. NR had assessed the crossing in 2002 as high risk (presumably based on numbers using and sight lines). They recommended that the gates be electronically locked but never got round to fitting. The gates did have working warning lights and yodel alarms but the girls crossed after a train had passed, not realising a 2nd train was approaching in the opposite direction. The 1st train had stopped in the adjacent station and was blocking the sight lines.
Geoff, maybe you could announce your where abouts on social media sometimes when making these videos so that local fans could come and meet you and snap a picture, maybe think about doing this in the future as im sure that avid viewers of the channel, like me, would love it!
I could understand the motivation for not doing so to be fair: if you're on a tight schedule you may lose a bit of time from what you planned to do (and also bear in mind it should still be social distancing time now!)
The LNER face mask was quite appropriate, Geoff, as this line was, I think, the most western outpost of the Eastern Region. As a youngster in the 50s I remember LNER tank locos hauling passenger trains on this line. The disused line, now the cycle way, was the link using a Cheshire Lines involvement and the LNER had a terminus on the banks of the Mersey near Birkenhead. It's also possible that this line is being currently trialed by converted class 230 'D' stock, though the gradient from Shotton to Hawarden (not Bridge) station has given rise to slippage issues, me thinks. Not as bad as the Conwy Valley line at Roman Bridge though ... I think an accountant planned that route to be used for the 230s!! Pre-1970s this would have been a very well used station; its' similarly named steelworks employed thousands.
The Wrexham trains used to run to Seacombe until it closed in 1960. An unusual set up there as an LMS station the LMS stopped using when the Wirral lines were electrified in 1938, so you had all its passenger services being operated by another company.
Nice Video again. Opened by the LNER in 1924???? A bit out of area there one would think but the path to LNER ownership and opening is via the fortunes of the Great Central Railway.
Heyyy, my local line! Not quite right with the pronunciations but a valiant effort! They are indeed disused entrances to the steel works except the turnstile which I think is still in use (if you have a key card). Most of that line could use a bit of TLC from TfW but hopefully that will come in a few years when they're supposed to double the amount of trains on that line.
Oh interesting I hadn't realised there are two stations called Hope. When you showed the station Hope my first thought was "But that's in Derbyshire" (I know it's not the only such example, e.g. there are two Bentleys too, just wasn't aware of this one).
There's also 3 stations called Whitchurch - one up in Shropshire, between Shrewsbury and Crewe; another in Cardiff, on the Coryton branch; and the third in Hampshire, between Salisbury and Basingstoke
awesome video! thank you as always!! :D just a small improvement: in Welsh 'dd' is, indeed a "th" sound, but as in "that" "therefore" "the"; the other 'th' sond also exists, but it's simply written "th"
Have you done New Clee yet? The only station I've used where I had to stick my arm out to stop the train. Maybe you could do a video combining the four closely adjacent stations Grimsby Town, Grimsby Docks, New Clee and Cleethorpes (seaside terminus)
there are 4 request stops on the atlantic coast line but only from newquay to par ( they are St Columb road, Roche, Bugle, Luxulyan) can you feature them soon. thx
My question about that timetable leaflet is how does a train leave Neston at 0744, call at Shotton Low Level at 0804, and then get to Shotton High Level at 0755.
Sometimes I miss some public transit-line-station-nerd like you. The bus I usually take is a ringbus. For me, normally, the eastbound is quicker. But due to a massive construction-related detour on the eastbound (~15 minutes longer), the westbound could now be quicker. It would be interesting to have a "race", but none of my friends are keen on riding the bus for fun while I take my bus home only to see which one is actually faster...
Caergwrle is like Kire Goor Leh Cefn-y-bedd is Kev'n u' beth (with a th as in the word that). Cefn is pronounced like Kevin, but without the i. The Dd digraph makes a voiced th sound, and the th in welsh is similar to the the th in words like thing or sith.
Not exactly. I live down south in Caerphilly but my mam grew up in Y Fflint. As a consequence when I speak welsh, it's some sort of franken-dialect mix of north and south welsh
I've caught a train to Shotton, walked across that bridge, got the train across just to buy a ticket as a souvenir, then walked along the Greenway to Chester. Is the river crossing the shortest ride between two stations by time? By distance?
I love your videos. To what lengths you go just to show us this special train station. I wonder if a train approaches at max line speed (which is? 60 mph?) how can the driver notice you waving, and than get the train to stop at the station? And when the train comes from the other side, the curved side, the train driver will get sight of the station even later! In Switzerland they have a system where you have to press a button on the platform that activates a special signal indicating to the train driver that a passenger wants to board the train. Did you bring your own drone to shoot the view from the air of the bridge? I can tell that you at least used two cameras on small tripods! Tnx for making and sharing this video!
Hang on ... the bit where I’m zoomed into the timetable. The 13:51 DOESN’T have an ‘X’ by it! Did I just manage to get the only non-request stop train of the whole week by chance?
Yea I think lol
probably
i like the LNER mask :)
Did you notice that the 16:53 train also didn’t have an X? I think there are 2 non-request stop trains on that day.
@@OliversElevators Same with the 11:20
Geoff is back at the request stops - the world can be at peace once again.
Nature is healing
You've actually solved world peace.
I think they omit Hawarden Bridge during the week because the turnarounds on the Borderlands Line are very, very, very tight. Just two minutes at the Bidston end, and if the timetable is to be believed it's only got negative one minutes(!) at Wrexham Central. Adding in the stop at Hawarden Bridge (even on request) would significantly risk reliability just to serve a lightly used station that's just a short walk from Shotton. They do this to get an hourly service using just two trains.
However, there's a lower frequency on Sunday so the trains have more time at each end. This makes it easier to fit in stops at Hawarden Bridge.
perman17 excellent info, thanks!
I needed what feels like "a chat with a friend" , today. Getting ready to retire and riding the heart of wales is for sure on the list.
5:36
That is Dee Marsh SB, controlling the sidings of Dee Marsh, for steel trains to/from Margam, and where cement trains to Avonmouth stop for the loco to run around
So, it is still in use.
i think so
Wahey, my local request stop! A 40 min bike ride from me
6:29 (British Transport Police looking at CCTV footage from the station) Oh great, Geoff is acting weird again. What is he doing?
What do you mean again? That assumes he sometimes acts not werid.
He's on more train CCTV than anyone else........
I bet they have him on facial recognition just to know they don’t need to worry
The signal box is still used due to the freight sidings nearby which gets a few workings a day too
Could that be why the passenger trains are most frequent on a Sunday, freight is using the line the rest of the week?
@@markwright3161 nope it's a rather awkward station to stop at really - I was amazed that TFW Kept it open yet temporally stopped services elsewhere in wales
When did the steelworks close?
@@michaelgreen1515 1980 But parts of it are still open & the company at the time refused to employ anyone over 40 which Is Terrible for the local area
Don't know if you've done a "bikes on train" video. If not, I for one would be very interested to see that. I've been taking bikes on trains since the 1970's. As you'll imagine, things have changed a lot in that time. No brake vans these days for a start. Barrow crossings were great for pushbikes 'cause they could save you having to lug your bike up and down stairs.
Nice vid Geoff. Ta.
Many years ago that was one of the most used stations on the Borderlands line. Hundreds of people used it to get to work at Shotton Steelworks. I was one of them.
I used to cross that crossing to walk from my office to the visit the personnel dept when the station was in the middle of Shotton Steel works. The plant has retreated somewhat in recent years as you discovered. There was a road tunnel under but no pavement. Hence we crossed the railway to the personnel building which was right next to the station if we walked. Your final clip in the distance shows what was the head office overlooking the Dee. Really nice building with lovely tiled staircase
Love that your giving us a chance by showing our station
You can't trust automated announcements for pronunciation - the prerecorded ones don't always use local knowledge! I like the arguments between the conductor and the computer on the TransPennine stopping trains:
📻 The next station is ... Slay-thwaite
👩🏻💼 We are now approaching Sla-wit
📻 We have now arrived at *Slay-thwaite*
👩🏻💼 *Sla-wit* ... this station is *SLA-WIT*
👩🏻💼 [disappears off to the back cab with a determined expression and a lump hammer]
stevieinselby Not sure when you were last on a TPE service, but the announcements have had the correct pronunciation for quite some time now...
I wonder where else there might be arguments like that. "Shrewsbury" ... "Shroozbury" ...
@@DubStu So the hammer was utilised some time ago? :)
shwrozburry
It's slath weight ow u say it
Geoff, can we have "All the Barrow crossings"
Would Barrow-in-Furness count?
Love the use of good old Rail Alphabet for the station name.
Geoff, your monochrome mime seems to be pushing a trolley. Surely a barrow crossing would be traversed with a barrow (just 2 wheels, and you'd need to lift it as well as push it). You'll need to go back and re-mime :)
And the trolley was pushed onto the rails before checking it was clear, that was potential to have to mime a nasty accident and some disgruntled passengers who's luggage is not spread all over the tracks :)
So far this is the only RUclips video I’ve seen that was just uploaded that has no dislikes
Shawzy - Roblox & More. Sorry, there’s 8 now... must be people from request stops Geoff hasn’t visited yet.
Give them time. There are a *LOT* of videos on RUclips for the Dislike All Group, AKA (rather appropriately) DAGs, to get around to. The Like/Dislike ratio will, in all likelihood, tend toward a ten to one ratio over geologic time.
Oh my, Geoff, some of those pronunciations! Caergwrle = kire-goor-lay, Cefn-y-Bedd = kevn-uh-bathe (“back of the grave”).
Pen-y-ffordd as well
Kai-er Girlie.😀
Which grave? Kevin's?
I thought the same, although you can see how his friend has tried to guide his pronunciations (dd="th", but the wrong 'th' sound), so at least he's tried. "Must try harder" for the next Welsh visit though :-)
I went to Shotton Once when was a wee bit Younger ,Once in a Lifetime is enough !!
I grew up round there and can confirm this
That was fun. Superb scenery. What a bridge! Lovely video Geoff - thank you
1.50 Geoff dons his LNER face cover on, at a Transport for Wales station. Weird.
Hawarden Bridge was actually built (if that is the right word) by the original LNER.
@@whyamiwhat i like to think it was someone in a windowless office in Whitehall who saw that Wrexham, Buckley, Brymbo etc were in the north-east (of Wales) and decreed they had to be in the LNER
The line was operated by the Great Central Railway which became part of the LNER in the 1923 grouping. The same is true for the line to Chester Northgate and the route from Chester to Manchester via Delamere. At Caergwrle station, there is still an old LNER waiting shelter and the signal box is an old Great Central one. There are local links to the Goods Consortium relating to the old Cheshire Lines Committee.
@@whyamiwhat like LMS had a line to Southend on Sea!
When I'm back in chester for uni and getting fit I'll have to ride to this station along the Greenway!
Slow day in quarantine? Fear not, Geoff Marshall's back with a new request stop video!
Looks like a nice request stop
Helloooioooo
@@deltastransportadventures4083 Hi
Doesn't have a timetable board but it has a barrow crossing and the train is in Arriva (RIP) livery so it's a win for me
Geoff should do a series where he goes to rundown stations and do them up with the locals (and permission)
Not far from me have cycled that path a lot! I’ve noticed TFW are in the process of painting a lot of the station fixtures etc out of the old blue Arriva into the new TFW Wales colours. I’m English but live in Wales it’s taken me a few years to get the say the Welsh names correctly. The electronic announcements are pretty terrible 😂. Great video
So weird seeing somewhere I’m so familiar with on RUclips
Hi Geoff, I watched this and I too was interested in why on a Sunday, this station has a lot of services, but on other days, hardly any.
It reminded me of a local bus service where I live, the Number 2, from Westcroft to Newport Pagnell (Both in Milton Keynes). The main service, which is run by Arriva to make a profit, is usually only run once per hour. However, on evenings and weekends, the Arriva buses are partly funded by Milton Keynes Council so they run more frequently (Usually every 1/2 hour) and they extend the route from its usual terminus, to a few miles along, to Renny Lodge, a new housing estate.
Another awesome video Geoff, thanks. Not sure if the completionist in you is interested, but you have a missing station on the map 2:06. It’s missing Upton by Chester that closed just before Bache opened and would appear just north of it. You can still see the remains of it from the buses that run up Liverpool Road in Chester.
Dee Marsh signal box is very much in use - one of two on the Borderlands line (the other being at Pen-y-Ffordd)
6:55 Sounds like a very accurate weather report for the next 8 months!
Would love to see a video about the old railway(now a bike path) that goes from hawarden to Chester. Lots of history behind it
Love your work sir. Good to see you back.
Watch all your videos Geoff but nice to see one from beyond London again- from a Midlander!
I guess lower passenger numbers and thus shorter stopping times on sunday always allow for the additional stop. When you look at the timetable, for proceeding to following station it states 11 minutes including the request stop on weekdays. It is 10 minutes including the request stop on sundays. We have similar situations with train schedules around here. Once peak hour is reached, the train starts skipping 1 or 2 stops on every journey. Otherwise they would not be able to make the given time table.
Thanks Jeff for the video beautiful area and good to see you back on the rail network!!😎🐓🐓🇬🇧
Hey Geoff! In the description you spell the Borderlands Line "the Borderlands Lane" just thought you might like to know. Great vid as always.
thx!
Love your videos Geoff, I'm a new subscriber let's get him to 200k!
Transport for Wales/Vivarail are currently testing 2 of 5 Class 230s on this line. They will eventually replace the Sprinters. 230006 and 230007 are the 2 that have been delivered so far. I was hoping Geoff would capture them.
Barrow crossings.....on this line alone, Hawarden Bridge, Harwarden, Buckley, Penn-y-fford, Hope, and Gwersyltt. Harwarden also has a footbridge, and is the only intermeadiate station to do so.
Beautiful camera work and editing as always Geoff, I loved that shot at 5:31 👌
You should come to Bristol one day and go along the Bristol to Bath cycle path, it’s an old railway alignment that’s now a cycling path but it goes through the old railway tunnels and some of the station platforms remain and there’s even some station building remains, not to mention the over bridges and underpasses
Thanks for another great video Jeff.
I'll never need this information, being quite far from North Wales, but I had so much fun "exploring" with you and flagging down the train. :)
Liked this one very much. Good to see you keeping safe and well.
Lovely scenic footage there thank you. Geoff, do come and visit Worcestershire Parkway station (opened Feb 2020) soon.
Lakenheath is very similar
0 trains Mon - Fri
2 trains Sat
8 trains Sun
Approx.
@6:14 - yes it did go in, from someone who used to use it as an access point (when I worked in the building in the background :-) )
I love these railway stations which are just a bit different!
You went a few months early Geoff! TFW are currently test-running D-trains (ex-London Underground) on that line, I presume with a view to introducing them on service trains soon. You could have had a little bit of London in North Wales!
You need to make a whole video just on the bizarre pronunciations! As a Canadian, I was flabbergasted by some of the pronunciations. 😂👌🏼
Try Slaithwaite in West Yorkshire
It's Welsh
Harwarden Bridge is also the least used station in Flintshire as well. But it also bizarre that it get more trains on a Sunday than the weekday, I think that exit which was locked took people to a steel works if I remember, becuase I did visit Harwarden Bridge back in January but I did it on a weekday by walking it from Shotton... and yes the pronunciation is very difficult! great video.
Im so happy that Geoff Post New videos🤗
Visited this one last year, parked up in Shotton, got the train over and walked back.
Could you do request stops on heritage lines once you have finished this series
Cool. However Geoff, we pronounce, but it's pronunciation ( nunc not nounce). Love your post 😄
That's the joke
For some reason, Geoff haunting that empty station on the Borderlands Line with all of its fences and clanging gates had a bit of a Sapphire & Steel vibe to it.
There is a gated crossing at Carlsbad, California that passenger use to cross a single high speed track between the train platform and the connecting local buses, as well as the west side of downtown. There are electric bells and warning lights to alert people when a train is approaching. This is very important because all the Amtrak trains pass this station at about 65 MPH, and there is a curve on the north end of the station.
Anyway, I don't know if the gate is interlocked with the bells. Obviously, it has to swing open if someone is crossing the tracks when the bells start to ring -- or simply in the name of humanity of a train should be bearing down on them. However, I'm not sure if the gate locks automatically to prevent people from crossing the tracks when a train is approaching.
I thought about all that when I saw and heard how many gates there are at this little station. The gates do not seem to have much function, unless they are electrically locked when a train passes, as well.
There are 10,000 of foot crossings on the railways and all are risk assessed. Most rely on the walker checking for trains approaching. Some busy ones are fitted with lights and yodels. In 2012 Network Rail (NR) were fined £1m after 2 teenage girls were killed. NR had assessed the crossing in 2002 as high risk (presumably based on numbers using and sight lines). They recommended that the gates be electronically locked but never got round to fitting. The gates did have working warning lights and yodel alarms but the girls crossed after a train had passed, not realising a 2nd train was approaching in the opposite direction. The 1st train had stopped in the adjacent station and was blocking the sight lines.
Hawarden Bridge was built for workers at the nearby steel works.
Geoff I’m bloody sick of this, you being in my area and me not knowing!!
Geoff, maybe you could announce your where abouts on social media sometimes when making these videos so that local fans could come and meet you and snap a picture, maybe think about doing this in the future as im sure that avid viewers of the channel, like me, would love it!
I could understand the motivation for not doing so to be fair: if you're on a tight schedule you may lose a bit of time from what you planned to do (and also bear in mind it should still be social distancing time now!)
fetchstix™ this is true!
The LNER face mask was quite appropriate, Geoff, as this line was, I think, the most western outpost of the Eastern Region. As a youngster in the 50s I remember LNER tank locos hauling passenger trains on this line. The disused line, now the cycle way, was the link using a Cheshire Lines involvement and the LNER had a terminus on the banks of the Mersey near Birkenhead. It's also possible that this line is being currently trialed by converted class 230 'D' stock, though the gradient from Shotton to Hawarden (not Bridge) station has given rise to slippage issues, me thinks. Not as bad as the Conwy Valley line at Roman Bridge though ... I think an accountant planned that route to be used for the 230s!! Pre-1970s this would have been a very well used station; its' similarly named steelworks employed thousands.
The Wrexham trains used to run to Seacombe until it closed in 1960. An unusual set up there as an LMS station the LMS stopped using when the Wirral lines were electrified in 1938, so you had all its passenger services being operated by another company.
Nice Video again. Opened by the LNER in 1924???? A bit out of area there one would think but the path to LNER ownership and opening is via the fortunes of the Great Central Railway.
Heyyy, my local line! Not quite right with the pronunciations but a valiant effort! They are indeed disused entrances to the steel works except the turnstile which I think is still in use (if you have a key card). Most of that line could use a bit of TLC from TfW but hopefully that will come in a few years when they're supposed to double the amount of trains on that line.
Wales 🏴 is beautiful.
Don’t you agree?
👇🏻
I was supposed to go to Wales this month 😭
Oh interesting I hadn't realised there are two stations called Hope. When you showed the station Hope my first thought was "But that's in Derbyshire" (I know it's not the only such example, e.g. there are two Bentleys too, just wasn't aware of this one).
There are 2 river Dees as well. I used to live near that one, I live near the Scottish one now.
@@astronomenov99 In Welsh of course its Afon Dyfrdwy!
There's also 3 stations called Whitchurch - one up in Shropshire, between Shrewsbury and Crewe; another in Cardiff, on the Coryton branch; and the third in Hampshire, between Salisbury and Basingstoke
Great video Geoff have a great day
More trains on Sunday: maybe more time in the plan because there are less people on other stations on the line, so less time required there.
awesome video! thank you as always!! :D just a small improvement: in Welsh 'dd' is, indeed a "th" sound, but as in "that" "therefore" "the"; the other 'th' sond also exists, but it's simply written "th"
Have you done New Clee yet? The only station I've used where I had to stick my arm out to stop the train. Maybe you could do a video combining the four closely adjacent stations Grimsby Town, Grimsby Docks, New Clee and Cleethorpes (seaside terminus)
Still using the old bull head track on one line I see - I wonder how old the track and sleepers are?
there are 4 request stops on the atlantic coast line but only from newquay to par ( they are St Columb road, Roche, Bugle, Luxulyan) can you feature them soon. thx
Have you done a video on Deganwy request stop? I live 10 minutes away so would be more than happy to meet you if you haven’t done that station Geoff?
In the US state of Iowa, we have a town named Hawarden, which is (mis)pronounced “HAY ward en” and not at all like Hardin County across the state.
Brilliant video Geoff!
I didn't see your "famous" American Beauty swinging bins on either platform - or did I miss them?
My question about that timetable leaflet is how does a train leave Neston at 0744, call at Shotton Low Level at 0804, and then get to Shotton High Level at 0755.
You should go to hampton train station and see how nice it is
The train announcer used to say HA-WARDEN rather than Har-den. Was hilarious
Love the LNER mask. Got one just like it.
Yess
Epic video Geoff! Keep it up!
You havent watched it yet
What if its REALLY BAD!!!
@DON'T HATE ME I know it was a joke
Luke Alford but I have
Glad your back love your cool vids
Sometimes I miss some public transit-line-station-nerd like you. The bus I usually take is a ringbus. For me, normally, the eastbound is quicker. But due to a massive construction-related detour on the eastbound (~15 minutes longer), the westbound could now be quicker. It would be interesting to have a "race", but none of my friends are keen on riding the bus for fun while I take my bus home only to see which one is actually faster...
There is talk of building a new station just north of here called Deeside Parkway which will serve the Deeside industrial estate
I grew up in oswestry (gobowen) an ive not seen that one... i will look for it
Caergwrle is like Kire Goor Leh
Cefn-y-bedd is Kev'n u' beth (with a th as in the word that). Cefn is pronounced like Kevin, but without the i. The Dd digraph makes a voiced th sound, and the th in welsh is similar to the the th in words like thing or sith.
You are a local too then?
Not exactly. I live down south in Caerphilly but my mam grew up in Y Fflint. As a consequence when I speak welsh, it's some sort of franken-dialect mix of north and south welsh
I've been here to stay at the nearby Gladstone's Library!
Lovely place! I'm from that area and used to go there for lunch during work sometimes.
Can you do Deganwy next time you’re up that way please Geoff?
bucknell is a request stop Geoff Marshall
Nice Geoff!
I've caught a train to Shotton, walked across that bridge, got the train across just to buy a ticket as a souvenir, then walked along the Greenway to Chester.
Is the river crossing the shortest ride between two stations by time? By distance?
I would guess the increased Su service would be a WTT re route around section 4 possessions.
I haven't swung since the 60s, either.
I love your videos. To what lengths you go just to show us this special train station. I wonder if a train approaches at max line speed (which is? 60 mph?) how can the driver notice you waving, and than get the train to stop at the station? And when the train comes from the other side, the curved side, the train driver will get sight of the station even later! In Switzerland they have a system where you have to press a button on the platform that activates a special signal indicating to the train driver that a passenger wants to board the train. Did you bring your own drone to shoot the view from the air of the bridge? I can tell that you at least used two cameras on small tripods! Tnx for making and sharing this video!
Request stops only exist where the line speed and sight lines make them practical.
@@norbitonflyer5625 Ok I see. Tnx.
My local request stop. Must make a proper visit one day.
2:18 All those -WCH endings are the imperative in Welsh.
Hey Geoff, please come to Germany and visit Uphusum. It's an _international_ request stop!
geoff will towyn get a request train station or do u have to walk to abergele or rhyl cause i heard some rummors about it
Have you made your intent clear Geoff?