Idk but i do know that She only claimed her Indian side when she became a senator. She only started claiming her Jamaican background when she realized she could benefit from it.
This is so interesting. My niece's husband is bi-racial and they have three sons. When the oldest was about 3, he said to his mom, "Daddy's brown." She said, "That's right." He then said, "You're yellow and I'm yellow." He was obviously noticing the differences in color before learning the terms Black and White. Thanks for sharing this information.
Thanks for sharing. This is a good example I think why we need to teach kids that it is okay to see color but it is not okay to discriminate based upon color. They naturally see color just like we all do.
culture is belief structures and artistic practices and creation that derived from adaptation of the environment in which the live CULTURE has no biological or genetic origins .Race is definition of people that symbolizes the genetic and biological characteristics that relate them to environmental adoption to place of origin.Skin colour ,and other PHYSICAL features. Race cannot defined by convenience/personal preferences.
@@LifewithDrTrishVarner just wanted to let you know Candace Owens has been able to prove that who Kamala claims to be her grandmother is not, that she listed in her book.
No. Candace Owen’s most certainly DID NOT prove anything. She was blatantly inaccurate. I’m very concerned that so many people believe her lies without doing their own research. I highly suggest checking out this response to Candace Owens’ video. ruclips.net/video/CASzCjg52rc/видео.htmlsi=PjqL-HlSaIzIFcPn
Well ,her mother isn't Black and her father doesn't look fully Black or at all just because he's from Jamaica. Which a lot of people associate being dark with a thick accent as being Jamaican.
Kamala father is black, lots of jamaican, look just like him. Some people who are black in jamaica look full white. my family some very pale skin green eyes, and hazel, eye. People think am from india all the time, but i am a black jamaican, my grandmother look white.it was three sisters of them. What i think we all are mixed with something because of slavery.
I'm Jamaican with that of African and Indian heritage with a slave owner also in my DNA and I have never though about racial identity until I came to the US. This is so ridiculous! It has nothing to do with my intelligence or anything else. I am proud to identify as Black. Black, Black, and Black 🔳
Jamaica is an Island of less than 3 million people with over 90% Afro-Jamaican. A pretty homogeneous place. America is one of the most countries. Some regions/cities are extremely diverse were folks can mingle and appreciate all the cultures peacefully and respectfully. Some regions/cities are more homogeneous and can be prejudice based on race, religion, sexual orientation, etc…….. you can live in diverse areas or ethnically homogeneous areas. Can’t paint Americans/America with a broad brush.
I wondered about Vice-President Kamala Harris' ethnicity: the debate about her ethnic origins during the election mirrored what any person of mixed ancestry experiences. She’s so beautifully multicultural and pantheistic it’s hard to put her in a census box. But the main thing I was interested in was how she identified herself. Which led to an important question: Can you choose how you identify yourself vs how you are identified? I found out you can choose but sometimes race is chosen for you.
I have seen quite a few times where she has said she identifies as Black. She has acknowledged her mother's heritage as well though. I think the problem comes when people want to put everyone neatly into a box.
@@rightofcl i agree. You can't be black and have a non black biological parent, it's just illogical. If the roles were switched and a biracial person (let's say half black and half White) identified as white, people would litterally disagree and not let them ID themselves as white, but if this person says they're black its okay because of racist historical laws, "tradition", and societal expectations. I'm 1000% not here for that. Mixed people are just mixed, period.
I am physically unmistakably a black man. However my DNA profile lists me as about 50% European, 45% Sub Sharan African and around 5% Chinese and Desi. Not a very unusual mix of ancestry for a Caribbean male. many find it however surprising because I look so black. Karmala and I are both of Jamaican ancestry where the racial classification language is similar but not the same as the USA. In JA. mixed race people could consider themselves coloured or black it was their choice. However for me, history tells the tale. The history of black people in the new world has been one of interbreeding with whites since the day they dragged the first female enslaved African was dragged onboard the first slave ship. Many females arrived in the new world pregnant. So few Diaspora Africans have no European ancestry that the very definition of being black is and always has been being of mixed race ancestry. Kamala's specific mixture Desi, African and Irish ancestry in Jamaica is not even a little unusual, its as common as dirt. However in British culture which is the standard for Jamaica, both of her parents were black. The English even used the N word to refer to both Africans and East Indians.
There are 100% Africans living in an African Country that have the same color as Kamala's Father. Skin tone doesn't define one's blackness. Glad you touched on that.
@samleo75 Remember that Kamala's mother is Indian, so the focus shouldn't only be on her father's ancestry...she has more Indian ancestry than White or Black in my opinion.
I read that in America if you have just one black ancestor you are considered black. "The drop blood rule". I am Hispanic with African and European ancestors according to my DNA. My skin is really light but I am a black Hispanic, even though I am from different ethnicity groups.
The dumb ass claim of the one drop rule... the baseline of the rule was SUB-SAHARAN AFRICA... so your DNA would have to show lineage from SUB-SAHARAN africa....
That definition was created by white people who mean that as long as you have any trace of black blood you can never be classified as white,even if you have white skin. There were white people who were slaves simply because of mother who was mixed race and a white father. Even if they were basically white. white people did not want accept these as white .That is the issue.
I think the classification ‘black’ is more of an America thing in America.... people outside of America tend to identify by their cultural identity eg ghananian jamaican Sudanese Indian Sri Lankan etc but when people venture out of their country of origin this label is established upon afro people by non afro people ..... there’s no black land or black passport ...... I don’t tend to use the term ‘black’ I prefer to identify people by their cultural background or ethnicity ..... it’s more appropriate and also refer to people as mixed cultured as when I travel people can see you colour and are more interested in your cultural identity or ethnicity not your skin colour.... we need to drop the colonialistic labels put upon people of african origin especially in the diaspora.
Thank You. The term black comes from the Spanish word negro which translates to black in English. It is a racist term put on us by the slave masters. Asians don't call themselves yellow. They consider it racist and rightly so.
I say this a lot, if I go to other countries, I'll identify as an American. Race and ethnicity wouldn't matter as much as an identifier because even as an immigrant, I'm still an American. The term "Black" or even more specific "Black American," is an identifier to a distinct racially ethnic community in the US. Afro-american is another term for that community. The thing is that because of the history of the US and Black Americans, that ethnic community doesn't have a specific country that we can define from Africa because of The Trans Atlantic Slave Trade. Various tribes became one "tribe," so we define ourselves from that perspective. Even after taking DNA tests, it's confirming a Pan West and West-Central African genome and honestly, Afro-american doesn't fully capture this unique history of that Community because most of us aren't Fully African, we have multi generational admixture from other places, more or less Northwest Europe. So I use the term of Black American to refer to the ethnic community that I belong to. Black in America is unique to the US wrt racial and ethnic identification so I speak from that perspective.
@@lizabetx483 Asians don't have the same history that Black Americans with Pre US Civil War roots have. Asians know where they're from(i.e what country they're from), the term Asian is general for their origin from the continent of Asia. Black Americans don't know exactly what specific country we descent from Pre Trans Atlantic Slave Trade. Our ancestry before that are from various places in West and West-Central Africa, which BTW didn't go by the names that they're named now when my ancestors were brought to America. Then add in the fact that most of us aren't Fully African, then it's a valid reason why most of that Community refers to themselves as "Black." It's not offensive to that community because of that history.
And a good question to ask, is why don't a lot of us know our cultural identity. It was stolen from us. If we go back far enough in history our people were made to identify themselves at that time with these classifications and "black" meant a slave. Black has no classification in law and from my understanding may still mean "Slave". Try doing your genealogy, and most will come upon a road block near the 1860's because at that time you were only known as an "age" or "color" no other identifying marks. In slave records your family members only had a first name. It takes some diligent research to get beyond that point and some expertise. Calling ourselves "black" benefits no one. I agree with your comment.
@@curtiswilliams8285 here is the problem with that. Anyone born(almost ) in the US is an American citizen anyone (just about) can immigrate and become naturalized. A person who was both in Togo but is naturalized is Black American. A person born in America to parents from Belize is Black American ( going by the ancestry of the typical Belizean). They may not publicly behave any different from a Black American whose ancestors have been here for generations. You would not notice any difference unless you went to their home to eat dinner.
My family is from Jamaica. There's definitely an Indian culture there. I was always told we were part "coolie",but the dna pretty much was just black and white. If I had to describe Kamala to the cops,I'd say she was black
I would explain to the cops if asked, that KH - she's bi-racial (mixed race Indian & Black) would be the description I'd use, I would say the same of BObama, he's bi-racial (mixed White & African) I think the cops would understand this description, it's not so hard.
Amen! KAMALAZOO and JIM CROW BIDEN have completely forgotten about Black Americans in this country with all this racist tension against Blacks and the deaths and missing persons of people of color are astonishing! We need protection against racism back drought before a lot more unjust policing happens to our Black babies who are our future! 😚❤☺️❤🥰
Are they not working on them? There is a promise tracker that shows how many have been completed, those in the works, broken promises, and stalled promises. Takes a village which includes the courts, congress, and local governments.
Before 1838, Jamaica had a population of "free coloured," who often were as much as 7/8 European, certainly 1/2 European. They intermarried and created a "coloured" population that could be at least 50% British. The United States didn't have this, other than the free groups who were descended from the earliest African population brought to America (17th century). So Kamala's father was probably 50% or more British, meaning that she may be something like 25% African, 25% European, and 50% Indian.
@@LifewithDrTrishVarner In Jamaica, slaveowners tended to acknowledge their children born by "free coloured" mistresses. I've done a fair amount of genealogical research there. Those children weren't legitimate in legal terms, but they were called "reputed" children in legal documents. They might receive money, land, apprenticeship dues, etc. Donald's ancestors undoubtedly belonged to this class. Distantly there would have been slave ancestors --- since the free mistresses (often described as quadroon or mulatto) had African ancestry. At the time the slave trade ended (1808), slaves in British colonies were required to be registered. Nearly all slaves at that time were born in Africa, which is another major difference between Jamaica and the mainland colonies. It was only after 1808 that slaves were encouraged to reproduce and form a creole population. But the "free coloured" population had ancestry that had been on the island for a long time. The light-skinned population married among themselves, so today in some neighborhoods in Jamaica one sees a lot of blonds.
Sometimes please specify which African countries these comments are coming from. Africa has 54 countries which hold different identities. For example Cape Verde has a high mixed population, East Africans usually have a different look to west africans and people from Mauritius have a heavy indian mix. Not all Africans look like Nigeria or Ghana. I am South African and we have the highest population of white people in Africa, we have a race for multiracial people (Coloured people- are usually of Indonesian, Malaysia, South/Central Asia, African and European decent). We also have plenty of lightskinned black people these people are accepted as black and nothing else here in South Africa. There is also a huge boom of Biracial people here, those people usually tick "other" and identify as both races.
I know quite a bit of people from South Africa, so I'm aware how the culture there is different than other parts of Africa. Sometimes, the individuals from Africa leaving comments do not indicate which countries they are from. Lately, I have gotten comments from West Africa and East Africa -- both indicating they don't view Black Americans as African or Black.
@@LifewithDrTrishVarner I'm from Mauritania. I'm a fulani. I think African Americans are black like, I never viewed them as lesser black as I am. Some of fulani are lighter than some biracial people. So there's no such thing as west African features or phenotype, in Mali there are fulani, tuaregs and arabs, and they are west Africans as well.
Hi Dr Trish~ 1st I'd like to take a minute to Thank You for the work u do in sharing with us❣️ I feel we as individuals get to define ourselves & it's not for others unless it's professionally addressed it's personal & belongs to "me" I noticed too many times others put in their opinion where it's just not necessary. IMHO💖
I wish people would read about the history of slavery, there's also a book by a professor dr. Robert Davis.. it would be nice to educate people worldwide to also know that white were enslaved in some places over 300 years before blacks were enslaved, and in certain times in certain places over 600 years there were the Muslims slave owners that captured white Christian people and use them for slaves I don't know why it's not talked about much but there has been a lot missing from history to show that white Christians were enslaved I come from a line of Irish and Scandinavians who were enslaved in later centuries they were indentured. I think it would be a good idea for people to watch not only videos like this but dig deeper into Mankind's history to learn a lot of people have been enslaved of a lot of nationalities
She’s an American! That’s the story of America. We are all mixes. One of the lightest pigmented people that I’ve ever met, with golden brown hair and super blue eyes has 15% Ethiopian in her. She wasn’t surprised at all though. I guess one of her great great grandparents on her moms side was an Italian that had fallen in love with a lady that had said she was an Arab right after one of the world wars and the rest literally was history. It was really cool to hear that story though. My point is, most of the people in the US are a bit of everything, and it’s honestly one of my favorite things about American culture. I just wish people weren’t so negative and used it to unite us instead. We could have so much power as an actual UNITED States, and it feels like the media just wants to break us apart.
In africa your skin doesn't define your blackness as we have africans with different skin tones who don't have white ancestry at all,for instance am light skinned but don't have white ancestry, it's only in europe,latin america, carribbean and north america where.I have seen that colorism and blackness is a big issue
I'm part black, part white and part Indian, but I also am seen as black, I don't feel it's right to be seen as one color, when your multiracial, black. But Kamala Harris has even claimed being Asian. She has never claimed to be Jamaican. Her father has no Jamaican blood in him, just because he was born in Jamaica, it doesn't make him Jamaican if his parents are not full blood Jamaicans or half. No she doesn't. She definitely doesn't.
She also identifies as Indian (carrying a bit of East Indian blood with my North to South Afrikan I understand) but it is also a state of mind (Black). This should depend on what you are willing to do for your people's advancement, if you call yourself Black and are you for Europeans well being over your people, you are a traitor hands down.
Would I be considered mix race according to my dna results im 71%of African decent and 19% European and both of my parent's are Black thats why I consider myself black and not African-American I saw a video where in some parts of Africa people consider African people black Whites White and people like most Black people in America colored because they have European and other ethnicities crazy 😕
Look up Brahmin Indians. That's what Kamala is, the highest caste of Indians. The The media often says her father is Jamaican to aid the pretense that she's half black, since people automatically associate African ancestry with Jamaican. But plenty of Indians live in Jamaica as well, and were in the slaveholder class, as was her father. A woman from the highest caste in India would have never been allowed by her family to marry a regular black Jamaican as her mother did, in a big wedding.
@@LifewithDrTrishVarner unfortunately they've scrubbed the truth from Google to protect the lie that she's black. Of course big tech/ the govt wouldn't want the truth on this matter to be easy to find. Not sure how you'll be able to validate it.
@@resonanttruth1 I happen to be a distant cousin of Kamala. Yes I am Jamaican. I too have mixed ancestry but I am black. She is black. Also Jamaica has similar european mixture in the population as African Americans
Indians were brought over by the English to supervise the slaves..this is why they still have delusions of grandeur and always try to get away with not paying cleaners and builders and the like! This happened in Uganda and Guyana and probably many other places.
This video has answered some questions I have had for some time. As a genealogist, I have always had an issue with blanketedly calling all black people African-American as one can not tell by looking at someone where there ancestors came from necessarily, African-American is used as a descriptor but it isnt a true description to all that are called it. Any ethnic, cultural, national, religious, , or heritage group should only be self-assigned because of this reason. My DNA shows that I am from Scotland, Irish, Welsh, and English all from the British Isles region. I am fair skinned, redhair, and blue eyes. My cousin who has fair skin, redhair, and brown eyes DNA indicates she has between 20-30% Nigerian. She calls me up and asks if she is considered bi-racial. It is my opinion that we should only use descriptive words such as white, black, brown, etc when we need to identify one specific person of another. I give the example of a missing persons alert information, drivers license or passport. Otherwise, we are self-labeling or self-assigning not as a specific person but to a certain group like Scot-Irish American, Black American, Jewish American, etc
I think it was Tony brown from the longest running talk show in America, who said there are no races only different cultures. If I remember correctly he said when he worked in Chicago decades ago he worked with a black gentleman who talked and acted as a typical white man, he said at first it was comical, but after getting to know the fellow and talking to him he found out his story the guy was raised in a small town in North Dakota I believe. He grew up around all Caucasians, his family very rarely visited relatives, he parents wasn't very black cultured to begin with. The point is how you are raised have a major impact on you ! For those that don't know, Tony brown was a black talk show host on PBS for decades !
This is an interesting topic. I don't think the issue with debating on whether VP Harris has African ancestry(a pretty good amount as a bi-racial) because she does from her paternal lineage. The real discussion is that she's not a descendant of The Pre Civil War Black American Population, like President Obama and so when she's called The First Black American Female VP, that is the distinction that needs to be made. Condoleeza Rice is the highest ranked person in executive branch ever as a descendant of The Pre Civil War Black American Population and she doesn't get enough credit for this BTW. Another thing is that her results are very interesting too(She actually has a high amount of European admixture at about 40% but like most Black Americans, it's multi generational admixture). So I feel like wrt discussions like this, these are the distinction that needs to be made. She has already made history by being the first woman VP and she happen to be a woman of color(a woman with African heritage multi generationally passed down) and that's different than being a Descendant of The Pre Civil War Black American Population who is their own unique ethnic community.
I’ve always liked Condoleezza Rice ..whenever she speaks,I listen ..I never knew the percentage of her DNA Thank you for sharing 51% African 40% European and 9% Asian or Native American descent ..one can never tell by a person’s complexion My African DNA% is higher than 51% Condoleezza Rice is an Extraordinary woman! She was the first-ever female National Security Advisor of the United States. She was the first black women to serve as United States Secretary of State. She is a piano virtuoso and played alongside World Renown Cellist Yo-Yo MA at the National Medal of Arts Awards. She became the first female Provost of Stanford University. She can speak Russian.she is a teacher, author, policy maker and eloquent speaker etc..
I am a black immigrant and I do tend to correct people when they refer to me as African American , because I view that as the designation of a specific ethnic group which I am not a member of by birth and I do not wish to presume to appropriate African Americans history or culture no matter how much I appreciate and study it. However I must remind you that the first Slaves brought to the English colonies in North America did not come from Africa the were Caribbean. After the British banned the slave trade, the British navy made it their policy to stop and search suspected slave ships and if slaves were found onboard liberate them. This in concert with the US congress making it illegal to enslave any man who had been born free meant slave masters had only three avenues from which they could precure fresh slaves buy them from among the already enslaved blacks of the colonies, import them from the west indies or grow their own ( the most expensive option) the The pre civil war exchange of black flesh for filthy coin was substantial and the post civil war migrations from the Caribbean has also always been substantial. So its safe to conclude that very many African Americans have some ancestral connection to the Caribbean . What concerns me is if the line between the two ethnic groups become so calcified that black immigrants no longer have the option of exchanging their previous identity for and African American identity then we my be forced to leave the African American group and Identify as some kind of other. I cant see how that kind of splintering of alliances could be beneficial to either group or black people as a whole. Karmala sees herself and an African American because that is how she was raised to see herself. its not like she is actually Jamaican herself or Indian, She is the American progeny of foreign born parents and we do not normally assimilate to become generic American culture . We assimilate into the African American culture.
I am a second-generation Jamaican immigrant. I don't identify as African American, because my lineage doesn't come from the pre-Civil War Black American population. My parents came to America as immigrants from Jamaica and built themselves up. I identify with my cultural and ethnic heritage more so than anything. Of course, I respect the cultural achievements of the Black American community and try my best to give them accolades, but I didn't descend from them. Everyone should have boundaries when it comes to establishing and gatekeeping their culture and ethnic group.
@@hiddenbeauty2828 This is a great post and a very good discussion. Somewhere in the comments said that other countries, people go by their ethnicities especially if they're immigrants in those countries so what your post does is explain why Black Americans identify as they do because it's an unique American shaped history. It's why some who are part of that Community can identify as they do regardless of how much Sub Saharan African genomes they have. It's a respect thing all the way around not just with the Black American ethnic community but with how other groups identify wrt their own history in the US as immigrants. As I said, as an American, if I immigrated to another country, my race/ethnicity wouldn't matter because how I identify come from the perspective of my ancestors and my history in the US. It may not make sense to many but it should be respected just as other perspectives should be respected.
@@clementmckenzie7041 Not really because we know that The Black American Population as an ethnic community were established by The Civil War. The descendants of The Pre Civil War Black American Population has numerous sub ethnic groups going back to The Atlantic Creoles who were the first African descent people in the 13 colonies. John Punch who is a direct ancestor of President Obama was one of those people. Yet that community was established as a distinct community long before the masses of immigrants especially after 1965. Caribbean Americans just like all American immigrants should have no problem with these kind of distinctions to affirm themselves as their own communities.
I identify, like my Dad before me, as a mutt. However, I have NEVER identified as “white” or “Caucasian”. Also, my national heritage is problematic, since I have some ancestors who came from Flanders (no longer a nation) and my paternal grandfather’s parents were Galician Jews, Galicia being a crown province of the Austrian-Hungarian empire; Galicia was Never a Nation. My paternal grandmother had Plantagenet ancestry, so I have always felt more affinity towards dark-skinned people with a regal bearing than towards vulgar light-skinned people.
When I grew up, we weren't called black; we were called Colored. To me, that was more fitting than Black because we are all different shades. The color Black has a negative connotation such as the black heart. If being black and the one-drop rule then there are many more blacks that are just passing. Everyone was originated from Africa, even whites. As a biracial person, I can not deny one side of my heritage when I am both. Most people like myself would call me German if I lived in Germany and only here in America is color a part of it. Only here in America do we call ourselves White, Black, Hispanic instead of just being Americans.
And the 'One Drop Rule', more and more, is being abandoned by many of us White folks; especially if the 'Black' person being discussed has light skin, hazel/blue/green eyes, etc. These days, they're defaulting to simply 'White'. Now there's Colin Kaepernick; the first times I laid eyes on the man, I pegged him as an Arab man and Middle Easterners, as a group, are still (mostly) 'White'.
I know a lot of light skinned Black people with hazel/blue/green eyes who definitely wouldn't dare default to being labeled white, especially if they have two Black parents.
It should not have have the negative connotations but it does, because people wanted to force an idea. That does not mean that idea should remain, nor was it the original meaning. black comes from the ether and source.
She is black. Her jamaican family are black. and mother indian. Google black people in st Elizabeth Jamaica ,and see what they look like. Light skin jamaican.
4 of my grandchildren are mixed race. The oldest has the darkest skin but is obviously mixed. Her DNA is 55% white European and 45% African. She identifies with her blackness as her skin tone but her entire life she was raised in the white culture. She is now tryin to embrace her black culture
Well I'm like 5% African which I still can't track down and 8% papuan (which generally appear like Indian or black) along with my largest amount British, Scandinavian, Iberian, native American, Asian, Welsh, and other European. Wonder what I am? I've been raised white and look like I could be of Caucasian and native or Asian decent. The odd thing is I can't track where the African, papuan, or Asian .
I generally like your videos. Most of the time, your information is presented in a balanced way. Also, it seems that there is not a universally agreed-upon definition of what defines...in this case...black. The old mantra comes to mind "You can't please all the people all the time". However...in this video, you skirted around at least 50% of the obvious and omitted a full half to 75% of Harris' culture and background by overlooking the South Asian heritage she has and was raised with. Harris' mother is fully South Asian, and her father has that heritage, as well. They had an arranged marriage as is customary with those of South Asian culture. In addition to that, India has always used--sadly--the caste system to classify people by the color of their skin, but even those with the darkest skin tones there could never be considered to be of Sub-Saharan descent. It doesn't make judging someone based on the color of their skin right...but it has happened all over the world since time immemorial. Thus, when South Asians were brought to Jamaica, only those with the darkest skins were considered "the lowest of the low"...even among those of their same culture. Having a culturally-arranged marriage meant that Harris' father was--for all intents and purposes--considered of Indian descent and thus fit to marry in said culturally-arranged marriage. Some of his own ancestors were fully South Asian, and he was raised IN that culture. As well...in the world of politics (and theatre) people have long created a pseudo-character to appeal to the majority of their constituents, but it may not be based in actual fact. If no one takes the time to question the actual facts...and no one who might have been around to verify whether there was truth to the given narrative. Most times, the truth eventually comes out. I highly doubt the tale of Kamala's mother taking her--at least on a regular basis--to black-led rallies. Kamala's mother has never been considered black, although some cultures may consider her "a person of color". I just thought I'd point out some of the details you didn't cover.
I specifically chose to not address her South-Asian lineage more than just mentioning her mother immigrated from India because the video is about the criticism Kamala Harris gets about being called a Black woman. Thus, I traced her Black lineage according to how Black is currently defined. I addressed how Kamala said she was raised. She said her mother raised her to be a Black woman. Does that mean she wasn't involved in her mother's culture? I don't think so. However, I imagine her mother understood the times Kamala was being raised in and how the United States would see her. I did not think how her parents married or the caste system India uses was relevant to this video. This video is not to look at Kamala's full history but only to take a look at her Black ancestry only as to address why she calls herself Black. Her father's parents and grandparents did not look South Asian, and they have acknowledged their African ancestry. It sounds like you have chosen a side when it comes to how Kamala should be viewed though, and that's fine. Everyone won't agree on everything. Thanks for coming by to watch another video.
@@LifewithDrTrishVarner I agree...we all won't agree. I have a difficult time with encapsulation of heritage that focuses completely only one aspect and ignores/divorces the rest of the heritage. But that's just me. Is there more to existence than just being of one heritage? I think so, and--my opinion--the sooner we embrace all heritages, the sooner there will be no divisions based on race in this world. But again...that's me. What do I know?!
I agree there's more to existence than just being of one heritage. I embrace all heritages and how anyone chooses to racially identify. I am not bothered how someone sees themselves. I typically prepare videos based on viewer interest (and of course my own interest). There was an interest regarding Kamala's African ancestry, and thus I decided to do this video on that point only.
If you have any amount of a particular ethnic group, just remember that you would not exist without it. You would not be you. This goes for any identity. The truth is that we are all mixed anyway. According to my ethnicity results, I am one thing but according to my actual genealogy, it goes everywhere including Iberia, France, Cleopatra, Arabia and such which would also include Africa for sure because going back ten (10) generations, you have one thousand (1,000) great grandparents and Muhammad Ali is actually a cousin of mine through his ancestors. When I was growing up, black wasn’t used. It’s probably because colored could be or was being used in a derogatory way that it was switched to black. Sometimes the more mixed race people are the more sensitive they are about race but I always admired people of mixed race and the truth is that there is no pure race. Everyone is a mixture. In reality, it could be that the more mixed you are, the better off you are in some ways genetically but there always seem to be inherited genetic problems of one kind or another. (Don’t tell anyone, I have mixed Brazilian kids… which includes Nigeria : )
I would regard kamala Harris as mixed cultured person who is jamaican Indian and has a nationality which is American. I wouldn’t say she is black as she is 50% jamaican and 50% Indian ..... I see her as being mixed cultured. 95% of jamaicans are of african decent and see themselves as being just Jamaicans of african origin which is reflected in the culture..... most jamaicans are not that mixed and tend to have about 90% plus african ancestry.... due to the many rebellions in the Caribbean especially Jamaica and Haiti where the mixing between slaves and slavers wasn’t that much unlike in America..... this is reflected in the dna tests taken by those jamaicans who have taken the test. I guess most afro people don’t aspire to the 1drop rule which is American.... we all have a cultural identity eg African American is just as valid as any other and should be claimed as such
I am not sure about the whole 1 drop thing. My mom has 1% Nigerian. I call her white because she is 99% white. But I guess it is up to the individuals, which us ok.
You would usually hear people described as black, yellow, brown, etc., even within the same community. Sub-Saharan Africans don't racially describe themselves as "black" people. Sub-Saharan Africans describe themselves as Africans, not Blacks.
I just started listening. It's interesting that you mention not being able to get an answer for the term black being the label for anyone dark skinned of African descent I remember how that came about. It was the late 1960s and the term colored was in common usage. But then the entire civil rights and other parts of the culture came about and people of color simply say Black is beautiful. In other words it isn't necessary to talk of " colored" as politely referencing something not so good Black is beautiful became a battle cry, Ebony magazine came out. I think even Vogue had elegant black models.
Us African Americans and African Caribbeans share the same ancestral roots from Africa because of the Transatlantic Slave Trade. We are connected and represent the African Diaspora.
Thank you for providing this information. My DNA shows I am more than half African, regardless of my completion. I have always identified as black, and my family encompasses all shades. It is hard to understand why some of our people would question if I am black. White people know I'm not white.😮
I’ve come to the conclusion that white women can give birth to white children as well as to children of other racial groups, whereas women of other racial groups cannot give birth to white children. If mixed-race individuals should not identify as Black, then how should they identify? I see being mixed race not as a distinct race but as a state of being. Can a biracial person identify as white? I once read that in many South American countries, the phenomenon of 'whitening' has led to many people denying their Black ancestry and identifying as white instead. Does being white mean the same thing as being Caucasian?
Vice President Kamala Harris has ever right to identify as a black woman…Her father has African DNA He is Afro-Jamaican & Irish ..I was taught the One Drop Rule by my parents that are both black. if a person has a single drop of black blood and one black ancestor that person is black. one can never tell what a person’s ethnicity is ..I have more African DNA than European DNA I’m black, some people think I’m white.
@@AJ-mt9zt Like it or not, The One Drop Rule shaped the collective genome history of The Descendants of The Pre Civil War Black American Population. Many of us wouldn't be considered Black in other countries just because we have multi generational European admixture and even European origined haplogroups according to how they establish race from their perspective. And that's fine because it's their perspective but that shows that we're our own unique ethnic community in the US and this has impacted our identification no matter how much African and European admixture that we have. BTW, I don't believe in The One Drop Rule myself. For example, if I had a recent ancestor who wasn't Black American, I would call myself "mixed." I just believe that there's a nuanced discussion to be had on a topic like this and that's what this video about VP Harris is about.
@@curtiswilliams8285 I don’t consider myself mixed my father is brown skinned my mother is light skinned I’ve never met a white ancestor they were born in the 1800’s ..the definition of a mixed person to me ..example ..one parent is black one parent white.
@@curtiswilliams8285 We can’t have it both ways ..I don’t recall people calling Former President Obama Mixed ..his mother is white…I remember us as a black society celebrating our first black President.
@@AJ-mt9zt And I'm speaking specifically on the US and how much The One Drop Rule impacted the genome history of The Descendants of The Pre Civil War Black American Population. It's the best way to explain the difference between having multi generational admixture going back to the Civil War when European ancestry dates back to and those with recent ancestry from other races/ethnicities.
In parts of the Caribbean such as Trinidad and Tobago and Guyana Harris would be called a "dougla" a non insulting term simply meaning a mix between African/black and (East) lndian.
Is there a degree to the measure of blackness; as measured by the black society? Relatively different than how a Caucasian measure’s their whiteness or the measure of other races?
I think her mom knew she'd be seen as black, or non white so she said. So she raised them to deal with that. I think the problem is is that people now question how much she's leaning on that to be elected. This is what her mother wanted for her. Whether it's weird or good it's how she was raised. When my daughter was in school she wanted to attend some kind of club in her school for Latin children. I was told because she wasn't "Spanish enough" meaning of 50%, she could not. She was deeply hurt by that.
Genealogy is always interesting but just see the possibility of a person being related to someone from Greek mythology or the Bible that would be incredible to be related to a legendary figure but there is no way to really know .
I wanted 2 do my DNA search. Then i realised that i might have more 🐷 blood than I'd like 2 admit. My Daddy was high coloured with blue eyes I took my mums beautiful Black Skin
It's difficult for me to comprehend how the descendants of those who forcefully removed my ancestors from Africa, transported them to an unknown land, traded them as commodities, and subjected them to inhumane labor and sexual abuse, can now question my heritage as a person of African descent. Despite their imposition of their genetic makeup while inflicting lasting damage, they dare to challenge my identity as a black descendant.
I'm a very light skinned person with a Afro. My family married other light skinned people to keep this color. But i have so many Black ancestors. So to me i'm Black and i don't care who thinks i'm not.
Hi Dr. Trish, I enjoy your thought provoking videos. I am not Black, but found some cousins we didn't know about through my test. They are about of 1/3 to 1/2 African descent . They identify as Black, and that is their right. Who is anyone to judge?
I label myself respectfully " a man of color. I'm Lightskin and in the summer get very brown. In the winter I get much lighter again with red undertones.
I want to know about Civil Rights Activist Diane Nash's ancestry because she identifies as black even though she could pass for white. So what makes Diane Nash, Kamala Harris, Barack and Michelle Obama, Amara La Negra, Beyonce, Lala Anthony, Rihanna, Tyra Banks, Malcom X, Fredrick Douglass, Hallie Berry, Nikki Minaj, Megan Markle, Cardi B, Naomi Harris, Megan Good, Tia and Tamara Mowry and Dorthy Dandridge any different from one another if they all have black, white, latin, indian, etc ancestry in there bloodline, but identify as black, afrolatino, but are biracial or multiracial. Black skin tone comes in all shades, just like black, caramel, almond, hazelnut, toffee, java, espresso, ebony, deep ebony, brown, cinnamon, and beige, etc. I identify as afro-bi-multiracial latino because I am half puerto rican from my mom (and they all mixed there) who is light skinned and my dad looks black with is ebony skin complexión, has 4a hair and speaks Spanish, and he's half Belize Garífuna and West african decent and Mayan from Guatemala, which there because of colorism puts in a class as black race, just like here in the U.S. so my question is that I to be truly black or African-American, you have to be 100%, or both pare ts to be black, but no one is 100%. I also heard that at least 50% of your ancestry as well has to be black or African decent. So who can say they are black or who identify as black. Please clarify some more for me based on what I wrote on these celebrities because I'm still do not understand. Your response is much appreciated.
In my country Zimbabwe she would classified as mulatto, colored, biracial not black but in the USA it's different and it's no big deal here in my country if anyone is of mixed race as we call mixed race people our cousins, nephews and nieces and grandchildren(mzukulu)
If Vice-President Harris wants to call herself black, that is her business. I would like to point out that not all black peoples come from Africa. Australian Aborigines, Torres Strait Islanders(Tasmanians), Papuan New Guineans, Solomon Islanders, Trobriand Islanders, Andaman Islanders, Dravidians in India, and Negritos in The Philippines, Thailand, Cambodia, Viet Nam, and Indonesia are black.
I am 97.4 European, 2% sub saharan african, but never knew it until i did my ancestry. I have curly hair. But I have never been considered Black. I think my 4th great grandmother was actually a slave.
She’s mixed race ,there’s obviously Indian ,European,African and even likely Native American….she’s a true mixed race and call herself what she likes….why are “blacks” unable to accept that mixed race people are just as proud to identify as black as full bloodied black …I wouldn’t be surprised if those who say they’re black are also mixed race
Is this important Black is Beautiful . We need not to worry what they think about us. It's 2021 and we are still worried about what they think. I'm black and I'm proud. I'm light skin and I'm proud.
Kamala is welcome in the Caribbean as mixed race. We love her intelligence. She fits in easily in Trinidad with our Indians and Black populations. Both her parents fit there too, plus she is beautiful. I love her Bay Area connections. You Americans waste time debating stupid, petty shit. We will take her, her sister, nieces, uncle from India, toute bagaille, and they would love the islands. Our ex Prime Minister named Kamala, was educated at UWI in Jamaica and danced to reggae music really well.
@@gaildelima2755 I appreciate your perspective and was agreeing with your comment until I got down to your statement insulting the discussion as petty and stupid (which almost didn’t get posted). People can agree or disagree without hurling insults at one another. Please keep this in mind if you choose to comment in the future. I also do not allow cussing in the comments.
No! Black Americans do not have to reclassify our Blackness based on who it displeases internationally. That is weakness, not strength! Each group of people must define who they are geo-internally once you penetrate their nations. As the oldest, and majority Black people in the USA, Black Americans get to define the standard of Blackness. If you go to another nation outside of the political borders of the USA, the majority in those nations get to define what their Black idealism should stand on. Just sayin'.
I remember watching UK news. There were angry yt ppl yelling about the nword ppl. They were referring to Indians. Also just seen a Korean show where an Indian was called black.
I believe Pam is going for the winn8ng side. To her it seems as if black Americans do not seem to be winning. If she thought that blacks in USA were winning. She wo u ld proudlly admit she is black American.
One drop rule I can’t follow especially knowing it came from a racist, many Hispanics will be considered MultiRacial, for my race I choose Black and I only have 26% sub Saharan African, my mother is 30% African and also picks Black for her race, I tell people there are Black people of different shades and color, my Grandmother was a Black woman but born in Puerto Rico and didn’t speak English she was darker than most of my African American friends.
Anabel...I agree with you! My first husband was Puerto Rican. His father's family had issues with him marrying his mother because they considered her heritage to be "less pure" than them...and that was within Puerto Rico. They married anyway and raised their family. My mother-in-law was a selfless, giving person with soooo many traits worth emulating, and raised a wonderful family!!! She clearly was a mixture of Taino, Black, and Spanish, but it didn't change the person she inherently was.
@@LifewithDrTrishVarner I will say mainly because of my mother, 1st time I saw her signed some papers I was 7 and she checked black for race, I never asked y but as I got older I did the same, I couldn't choose white, oh anything else, funny thing is from my siblings I'm the only one who checks black for race, they perfer not to pick anything.
"We're not Americans, we're AFRICANS who happen to be in America. We were kidnapped and brought here against our will from Africa. We didn't land on Plymouth Rock - that rock landed on us!" --Malcolm X Word.
When you say 'Irish' its Ulster Scots is what you are talking about Without going into a long complicated History. Its like saying Isreal when you mean Palestinian.. Also Uster Scots were the first into America. Irish came much later after the famine
Kamila is mostly Hindu Indian from her Mother side 50% and her Father is Bi Racial mostly on the Jamaican side and a Slave ownership on his side of the family tree 🎄..
Black does mean color you are. Black means people of enslaved African ancestry. Because when you say African American you don't know wheather we are from Africa or from America.
She has the right to claim to be a human being first and second to be socially accepted but in my heart and soul she's a black woman or better yet a black lady
Idk but i do know that She only claimed her Indian side when she became a senator. She only started claiming her Jamaican background when she realized she could benefit from it.
Your content is always put together very well. Moreover, it is thought provoking while providing a valid argument! Keep up the good work...
so glad i found your site - you are wonderful. learned something new from both of you videos i have watched. excited about seeing more.
This is so interesting.
My niece's husband is bi-racial and they have three sons. When the oldest was about 3, he said to his mom, "Daddy's brown." She said, "That's right." He then said, "You're yellow and I'm yellow." He was obviously noticing the differences in color before learning the terms Black and White.
Thanks for sharing this information.
Thanks for sharing. This is a good example I think why we need to teach kids that it is okay to see color but it is not okay to discriminate based upon color. They naturally see color just like we all do.
culture is belief structures and artistic practices and creation that derived from adaptation of the environment in which the live CULTURE has no biological or genetic origins .Race is definition of people that symbolizes the genetic and biological characteristics that relate them to environmental adoption to place of origin.Skin colour ,and other PHYSICAL features. Race cannot defined by convenience/personal preferences.
@@LifewithDrTrishVarner just wanted to let you know Candace Owens has been able to prove that who Kamala claims to be her grandmother is not, that she listed in her book.
No. Candace Owen’s most certainly DID NOT prove anything. She was blatantly inaccurate. I’m very concerned that so many people believe her lies without doing their own research. I highly suggest checking out this response to Candace Owens’ video. ruclips.net/video/CASzCjg52rc/видео.htmlsi=PjqL-HlSaIzIFcPn
@@LifewithDrTrishVarner Yes, I watched the Useful Charts video a few weeks ago. Matt Baker does excellent research.
She looked mixed to me. Her parents doesn't look "black". But it doesn't matter to me what she is or isn't.
Well ,her mother isn't Black and her father doesn't look fully Black or at all just because he's from Jamaica. Which a lot of people associate being dark with a thick accent as being Jamaican.
To me Kamala look like a light-skin BLACK PERSON
Her dad is most likely part Scotch-Irish
Mother/Indian, Father/Black.
Kamala father is black, lots of jamaican, look just like him. Some people who are black in jamaica look full white. my family some very pale skin green eyes, and hazel, eye. People think am from india all the time, but i am a black jamaican, my grandmother look white.it was three sisters of them. What i think we all are mixed with something because of slavery.
Your presentation is well done. I find it to be quite convincing.
Thank you for this video. You make many excellent points, as always.
I'm Jamaican with that of African and Indian heritage with a slave owner also in my DNA and I have never though about racial identity until I came to the US. This is so ridiculous! It has nothing to do with my intelligence or anything else.
I am proud to identify as Black. Black, Black, and Black 🔳
America has too many hangups.
It is ridiculous! You are right. Btw. your black, black reminded me of Jamie Foxx's blackity black 😂
Jamaica is an Island of less than 3 million people with over 90% Afro-Jamaican. A pretty homogeneous place. America is one of the most countries. Some regions/cities are extremely diverse were folks can mingle and appreciate all the cultures peacefully and respectfully. Some regions/cities are more homogeneous and can be prejudice based on race, religion, sexual orientation, etc…….. you can live in diverse areas or ethnically homogeneous areas. Can’t paint Americans/America with a broad brush.
I wondered about Vice-President Kamala Harris' ethnicity: the debate about her ethnic origins during the election mirrored what any person of mixed ancestry experiences. She’s so beautifully multicultural and pantheistic it’s hard to put her in a census box. But the main thing I was interested in was how she identified herself. Which led to an important question: Can you choose how you identify yourself vs how you are identified? I found out you can choose but sometimes race is chosen for you.
I have seen quite a few times where she has said she identifies as Black. She has acknowledged her mother's heritage as well though. I think the problem comes when people want to put everyone neatly into a box.
@Curly Cocoa she went to Howard university which is a historically black university.
People should identify as what they genetically are
If that means taking a dna test than so be it
@@rightofcl i agree. You can't be black and have a non black biological parent, it's just illogical. If the roles were switched and a biracial person (let's say half black and half White) identified as white, people would litterally disagree and not let them ID themselves as white, but if this person says they're black its okay because of racist historical laws, "tradition", and societal expectations. I'm 1000% not here for that. Mixed people are just mixed, period.
I am physically unmistakably a black man. However my DNA profile lists me as about 50% European, 45% Sub Sharan African and around 5% Chinese and Desi. Not a very unusual mix of ancestry for a Caribbean male. many find it however surprising because I look so black. Karmala and I are both of Jamaican ancestry where the racial classification language is similar but not the same as the USA. In JA. mixed race people could consider themselves coloured or black it was their choice. However for me, history tells the tale. The history of black people in the new world has been one of interbreeding with whites since the day they dragged the first female enslaved African was dragged onboard the first slave ship. Many females arrived in the new world pregnant. So few Diaspora Africans have no European ancestry that the very definition of being black is and always has been being of mixed race ancestry. Kamala's specific mixture Desi, African and Irish ancestry in Jamaica is not even a little unusual, its as common as dirt. However in British culture which is the standard for Jamaica, both of her parents were black. The English even used the N word to refer to both Africans and East Indians.
Enjoyed listening to this topic very much.. Thank you for the highlights!
It’s my believe, any person with kinky or curly hair, regardless of their skin color, has afro blood.
Agree. That would be me with 3bc4a curly, coiled hair with afro decent in my blood through my father.
Ikr...
I concur..
There are 100% Africans living in an African Country that have the same color as Kamala's Father. Skin tone doesn't define one's blackness. Glad you touched on that.
@@samleo75 it's also the mindset and cultural up bringing.
@samleo75 Remember that Kamala's mother is Indian, so the focus shouldn't only be on her father's ancestry...she has more Indian ancestry than White or Black in my opinion.
@@sangene1 In Jamaica, Vice President Harris wouldn’t be categorized by race but rather described as a "Brownin," a fair-skinned Jamaican.
Some people in India are just as dark as me or even darker. Of course people in India have different hair then Africans.
Exactly& they still get called the n word!!!!!
I read that in America if you have just one black ancestor you are considered black.
"The drop blood rule". I am Hispanic with African and European ancestors according to my DNA. My skin is really light but I am a black Hispanic, even though I am from different ethnicity groups.
The dumb ass claim of the one drop rule... the baseline of the rule was SUB-SAHARAN AFRICA... so your DNA would have to show lineage from SUB-SAHARAN africa....
You are just a mixed-race AFRICAN. Like Obama, an African....with a Caucasian mother.
Word.
That definition was created by white people who mean that as long as you have any trace of black blood you can never be classified as white,even if you have white skin. There were white people who were slaves simply because of mother who was mixed race and a white father. Even if they were basically white. white people did not want accept these as white .That is the issue.
Excellent explanation
I think the classification ‘black’ is more of an America thing in America.... people outside of America tend to identify by their cultural identity eg ghananian jamaican Sudanese Indian Sri Lankan etc but when people venture out of their country of origin this label is established upon afro people by non afro people ..... there’s no black land or black passport ...... I don’t tend to use the term ‘black’ I prefer to identify people by their cultural background or ethnicity ..... it’s more appropriate and also refer to people as mixed cultured as when I travel people can see you colour and are more interested in your cultural identity or ethnicity not your skin colour.... we need to drop the colonialistic labels put upon people of african origin especially in the diaspora.
Thank You. The term black comes from the Spanish word negro which translates to black in English. It is a racist term put on us by the slave masters. Asians don't call themselves yellow. They consider it racist and rightly so.
I say this a lot, if I go to other countries, I'll identify as an American. Race and ethnicity wouldn't matter as much as an identifier because even as an immigrant, I'm still an American.
The term "Black" or even more specific "Black American," is an identifier to a distinct racially ethnic community in the US. Afro-american is another term for that community. The thing is that because of the history of the US and Black Americans, that ethnic community doesn't have a specific country that we can define from Africa because of The Trans Atlantic Slave Trade. Various tribes became one "tribe," so we define ourselves from that perspective. Even after taking DNA tests, it's confirming a Pan West and West-Central African genome and honestly, Afro-american doesn't fully capture this unique history of that Community because most of us aren't Fully African, we have multi generational admixture from other places, more or less Northwest Europe.
So I use the term of Black American to refer to the ethnic community that I belong to. Black in America is unique to the US wrt racial and ethnic identification so I speak from that perspective.
@@lizabetx483 Asians don't have the same history that Black Americans with Pre US Civil War roots have. Asians know where they're from(i.e what country they're from), the term Asian is general for their origin from the continent of Asia.
Black Americans don't know exactly what specific country we descent from Pre Trans Atlantic Slave Trade. Our ancestry before that are from various places in West and West-Central Africa, which BTW didn't go by the names that they're named now when my ancestors were brought to America. Then add in the fact that most of us aren't Fully African, then it's a valid reason why most of that Community refers to themselves as "Black." It's not offensive to that community because of that history.
And a good question to ask, is why don't a lot of us know our cultural identity. It was stolen from us. If we go back far enough in history our people were made to identify themselves at that time with these classifications and "black" meant a slave. Black has no classification in law and from my understanding may still mean "Slave". Try doing your genealogy, and most will come upon a road block near the 1860's because at that time you were only known as an "age" or "color" no other identifying marks. In slave records your family members only had a first name. It takes some diligent research to get beyond that point and some expertise. Calling ourselves "black" benefits no one. I agree with your comment.
@@curtiswilliams8285 here is the problem with that. Anyone born(almost ) in the US is an American citizen anyone (just about) can immigrate and become naturalized. A person who was both in Togo but is naturalized is Black American. A person born in America to parents from Belize is Black American ( going by the ancestry of the typical Belizean). They may not publicly behave any different from a Black American whose ancestors have been here for generations. You would not notice any difference unless you went to their home to eat dinner.
My family is from Jamaica. There's definitely an Indian culture there. I was always told we were part "coolie",but the dna pretty much was just black and white. If I had to describe Kamala to the cops,I'd say she was black
I would explain to the cops if asked, that KH - she's bi-racial (mixed race Indian & Black) would be the description I'd use, I would say the same of BObama, he's bi-racial (mixed White & African) I think the cops would understand this description, it's not so hard.
So would the cops.
But she only claims "Black" when it's beneficial to her desires.
I personally don’t care what color she is, her and Biden need to go abide by their campaign promises…
Amen! KAMALAZOO and JIM CROW BIDEN have completely forgotten about Black Americans in this country with all this racist tension against Blacks and the deaths and missing persons of people of color are astonishing! We need protection against racism back drought before a lot more unjust policing happens to our Black babies who are our future! 😚❤☺️❤🥰
Are they not working on them? There is a promise tracker that shows how many have been completed, those in the works, broken promises, and stalled promises. Takes a village which includes the courts, congress, and local governments.
Great video! ❤
Before 1838, Jamaica had a population of "free coloured," who often were as much as 7/8 European, certainly 1/2 European. They intermarried and created a "coloured" population that could be at least 50% British. The United States didn't have this, other than the free groups who were descended from the earliest African population brought to America (17th century). So Kamala's father was probably 50% or more British, meaning that she may be something like 25% African, 25% European, and 50% Indian.
Per Kamala's father, his family descended from slaves and slave owners in Jamaica.
@@LifewithDrTrishVarner In Jamaica, slaveowners tended to acknowledge their children born by "free coloured" mistresses. I've done a fair amount of genealogical research there. Those children weren't legitimate in legal terms, but they were called "reputed" children in legal documents. They might receive money, land, apprenticeship dues, etc. Donald's ancestors undoubtedly belonged to this class. Distantly there would have been slave ancestors --- since the free mistresses (often described as quadroon or mulatto) had African ancestry. At the time the slave trade ended (1808), slaves in British colonies were required to be registered. Nearly all slaves at that time were born in Africa, which is another major difference between Jamaica and the mainland colonies. It was only after 1808 that slaves were encouraged to reproduce and form a creole population. But the "free coloured" population had ancestry that had been on the island for a long time. The light-skinned population married among themselves, so today in some neighborhoods in Jamaica one sees a lot of blonds.
She is a dark Caucasian Aryan race east Indian
I don’t see why those labels matter why can’t we just stop worrying about color and worry about the person in general their personality and character.
Preach that 2 your white people
. America is full of racist people that is why.
It's wrong to steal and use another peoples history for personal ambition. It does matter.
Sometimes please specify which African countries these comments are coming from. Africa has 54 countries which hold different identities. For example Cape Verde has a high mixed population, East Africans usually have a different look to west africans and people from Mauritius have a heavy indian mix. Not all Africans look like Nigeria or Ghana.
I am South African and we have the highest population of white people in Africa, we have a race for multiracial people (Coloured people- are usually of Indonesian, Malaysia, South/Central Asia, African and European decent).
We also have plenty of lightskinned black people these people are accepted as black and nothing else here in South Africa. There is also a huge boom of Biracial people here, those people usually tick "other" and identify as both races.
I know quite a bit of people from South Africa, so I'm aware how the culture there is different than other parts of Africa. Sometimes, the individuals from Africa leaving comments do not indicate which countries they are from. Lately, I have gotten comments from West Africa and East Africa -- both indicating they don't view Black Americans as African or Black.
@@LifewithDrTrishVarner I'm from Mauritania. I'm a fulani. I think African Americans are black like, I never viewed them as lesser black as I am. Some of fulani are lighter than some biracial people. So there's no such thing as west African features or phenotype, in Mali there are fulani, tuaregs and arabs, and they are west Africans as well.
@@LifewithDrTrishVarner Interesting. Well I view Black Africans as Africans. You guys are a wonderful extension of us.
Thanks for the reply. It's good to have your feedback.
Thanks for commenting!
My mother is peanut butter colored and 95% African. My dad is chocolate colored but is much more European than my mother.
Genes can wipe out other genes.
@@thebattleswithinlife5339 It's called a Haplotype.
Hi Dr Trish~
1st I'd like to take a minute to Thank You for the work u do in sharing with us❣️
I feel we as individuals get to define ourselves & it's not for others unless it's professionally addressed it's personal & belongs to "me"
I noticed too many times others put in their opinion where it's just not necessary.
IMHO💖
Thank you! I love my Black heritage.
I wish people would read about the history of slavery, there's also a book by a professor dr. Robert Davis.. it would be nice to educate people worldwide to also know that white were enslaved in some places over 300 years before blacks were enslaved, and in certain times in certain places over 600 years there were the Muslims slave owners that captured white Christian people and use them for slaves I don't know why it's not talked about much but there has been a lot missing from history to show that white Christians were enslaved I come from a line of Irish and Scandinavians who were enslaved in later centuries they were indentured. I think it would be a good idea for people to watch not only videos like this but dig deeper into Mankind's history to learn a lot of people have been enslaved of a lot of nationalities
She’s an American! That’s the story of America. We are all mixes. One of the lightest pigmented people that I’ve ever met, with golden brown hair and super blue eyes has 15% Ethiopian in her. She wasn’t surprised at all though. I guess one of her great great grandparents on her moms side was an Italian that had fallen in love with a lady that had said she was an Arab right after one of the world wars and the rest literally was history. It was really cool to hear that story though. My point is, most of the people in the US are a bit of everything, and it’s honestly one of my favorite things about American culture. I just wish people weren’t so negative and used it to unite us instead. We could have so much power as an actual UNITED States, and it feels like the media just wants to break us apart.
In africa your skin doesn't define your blackness as we have africans with different skin tones who don't have white ancestry at all,for instance am light skinned but don't have white ancestry, it's only in europe,latin america, carribbean and north america where.I have seen that colorism and blackness is a big issue
I'm part black, part white and part Indian, but I also am seen as black, I don't feel it's right to be seen as one color, when your multiracial, black. But Kamala Harris has even claimed being Asian. She has never claimed to be Jamaican. Her father has no Jamaican blood in him, just because he was born in Jamaica, it doesn't make him Jamaican if his parents are not full blood Jamaicans or half. No she doesn't. She definitely doesn't.
If you're living in America. You are Black! Society and the
police are going to ensure you know it!
She also identifies as Indian (carrying a bit of East Indian blood with my North to South Afrikan I understand) but it is also a state of mind (Black). This should depend on what you are willing to do for your people's advancement, if you call yourself Black and are you for Europeans well being over your people, you are a traitor hands down.
I see Kamala as a mixed race woman who identifies as black, and refers a lot to her Indian Mom. I really appreciate her as Vice President.
Would I be considered mix race according to my dna results im 71%of African decent and 19% European and both of my parent's are Black thats why I consider myself black and not African-American I saw a video where in some parts of Africa people consider African people black Whites White and people like most Black people in America colored because they have European and other ethnicities crazy 😕
Look up Brahmin Indians. That's what Kamala is, the highest caste of Indians. The The media often says her father is Jamaican to aid the pretense that she's half black, since people automatically associate African ancestry with Jamaican. But plenty of Indians live in Jamaica as well, and were in the slaveholder class, as was her father. A woman from the highest caste in India would have never been allowed by her family to marry a regular black Jamaican as her mother did, in a big wedding.
Can you cite a credible source that proves this?
@@LifewithDrTrishVarner unfortunately they've scrubbed the truth from Google to protect the lie that she's black. Of course big tech/ the govt wouldn't want the truth on this matter to be easy to find. Not sure how you'll be able to validate it.
@@resonanttruth1 I happen to be a distant cousin of Kamala. Yes I am Jamaican. I too have mixed ancestry but I am black. She is black. Also Jamaica has similar european mixture in the population as African Americans
@Marie Gold what is a white admixture?
Indians were brought over by the English to supervise the slaves..this is why they still have delusions of grandeur and always try to get away with not paying cleaners and builders and the like! This happened in Uganda and Guyana and probably many other places.
This video has answered some questions I have had for some time. As a genealogist, I have always had an issue with blanketedly calling all black people African-American as one can not tell by looking at someone where there ancestors came from necessarily, African-American is used as a descriptor but it isnt a true description to all that are called it. Any ethnic, cultural, national, religious, , or heritage group should only be self-assigned because of this reason. My DNA shows that I am from Scotland, Irish, Welsh, and English all from the British Isles region. I am fair skinned, redhair, and blue eyes. My cousin who has fair skin, redhair, and brown eyes DNA indicates she has between 20-30% Nigerian. She calls me up and asks if she is considered bi-racial. It is my opinion that we should only use descriptive words such as white, black, brown, etc when we need to identify one specific person of another. I give the example of a missing persons alert information, drivers license or passport. Otherwise, we are self-labeling or self-assigning not as a specific person but to a certain group like Scot-Irish American, Black American, Jewish American, etc
I think it was Tony brown from the longest running talk show in America, who said there are no races only different cultures. If I remember correctly he said when he worked in Chicago decades ago he worked with a black gentleman who talked and acted as a typical white man, he said at first it was comical, but after getting to know the fellow and talking to him he found out his story the guy was raised in a small town in North Dakota I believe. He grew up around all Caucasians, his family very rarely visited relatives, he parents wasn't very black cultured to begin with. The point is how you are raised have a major impact on you ! For those that don't know, Tony brown was a black talk show host on PBS for decades !
What does talking and acting like a typical white gentleman even mean? That doesn't even make sense.
This is an interesting topic. I don't think the issue with debating on whether VP Harris has African ancestry(a pretty good amount as a bi-racial) because she does from her paternal lineage. The real discussion is that she's not a descendant of The Pre Civil War Black American Population, like President Obama and so when she's called The First Black American Female VP, that is the distinction that needs to be made.
Condoleeza Rice is the highest ranked person in executive branch ever as a descendant of The Pre Civil War Black American Population and she doesn't get enough credit for this BTW. Another thing is that her results are very interesting too(She actually has a high amount of European admixture at about 40% but like most Black Americans, it's multi generational admixture).
So I feel like wrt discussions like this, these are the distinction that needs to be made. She has already made history by being the first woman VP and she happen to be a woman of color(a woman with African heritage multi generationally passed down) and that's different than being a Descendant of The Pre Civil War Black American Population who is their own unique ethnic community.
I’ve always liked Condoleezza Rice ..whenever she speaks,I listen ..I never knew the percentage of her DNA Thank you for sharing 51% African 40% European and 9% Asian or Native American descent ..one can never tell by a person’s complexion My African DNA% is higher than 51%
Condoleezza Rice is an Extraordinary woman!
She was the first-ever female National Security Advisor of the United States.
She was the first black women to serve as United States Secretary of State.
She is a piano virtuoso and played alongside World Renown Cellist Yo-Yo MA at the National Medal of Arts Awards.
She became the first female Provost of Stanford University.
She can speak Russian.she is a teacher, author, policy maker and eloquent speaker etc..
I am a black immigrant and I do tend to correct people when they refer to me as African American , because I view that as the designation of a specific ethnic group which I am not a member of by birth and I do not wish to presume to appropriate African Americans history or culture no matter how much I appreciate and study it. However I must remind you that the first Slaves brought to the English colonies in North America did not come from Africa the were Caribbean. After the British banned the slave trade, the British navy made it their policy to stop and search suspected slave ships and if slaves were found onboard liberate them. This in concert with the US congress making it illegal to enslave any man who had been born free meant slave masters had only three avenues from which they could precure fresh slaves buy them from among the already enslaved blacks of the colonies, import them from the west indies or grow their own ( the most expensive option) the The pre civil war exchange of black flesh for filthy coin was substantial and the post civil war migrations from the Caribbean has also always been substantial. So its safe to conclude that very many African Americans have some ancestral connection to the Caribbean . What concerns me is if the line between the two ethnic groups become so calcified that black immigrants no longer have the option of exchanging their previous identity for and African American identity then we my be forced to leave the African American group and Identify as some kind of other. I cant see how that kind of splintering of alliances could be beneficial to either group or black people as a whole. Karmala sees herself and an African American because that is how she was raised to see herself. its not like she is actually Jamaican herself or Indian, She is the American progeny of foreign born parents and we do not normally assimilate to become generic American culture . We assimilate into the African American culture.
I am a second-generation Jamaican immigrant. I don't identify as African American, because my lineage doesn't come from the pre-Civil War Black American population. My parents came to America as immigrants from Jamaica and built themselves up. I identify with my cultural and ethnic heritage more so than anything. Of course, I respect the cultural achievements of the Black American community and try my best to give them accolades, but I didn't descend from them. Everyone should have boundaries when it comes to establishing and gatekeeping their culture and ethnic group.
@@hiddenbeauty2828 This is a great post and a very good discussion. Somewhere in the comments said that other countries, people go by their ethnicities especially if they're immigrants in those countries so what your post does is explain why Black Americans identify as they do because it's an unique American shaped history.
It's why some who are part of that Community can identify as they do regardless of how much Sub Saharan African genomes they have. It's a respect thing all the way around not just with the Black American ethnic community but with how other groups identify wrt their own history in the US as immigrants.
As I said, as an American, if I immigrated to another country, my race/ethnicity wouldn't matter because how I identify come from the perspective of my ancestors and my history in the US. It may not make sense to many but it should be respected just as other perspectives should be respected.
@@clementmckenzie7041 Not really because we know that The Black American Population as an ethnic community were established by The Civil War. The descendants of The Pre Civil War Black American Population has numerous sub ethnic groups going back to The Atlantic Creoles who were the first African descent people in the 13 colonies. John Punch who is a direct ancestor of President Obama was one of those people. Yet that community was established as a distinct community long before the masses of immigrants especially after 1965.
Caribbean Americans just like all American immigrants should have no problem with these kind of distinctions to affirm themselves as their own communities.
I identify, like my Dad before me, as a mutt. However, I have NEVER identified as “white” or “Caucasian”. Also, my national heritage is problematic, since I have some ancestors who came from Flanders (no longer a nation) and my paternal grandfather’s parents were Galician Jews, Galicia being a crown province of the Austrian-Hungarian empire; Galicia was Never a Nation. My paternal grandmother had Plantagenet ancestry, so I have always felt more affinity towards dark-skinned people with a regal bearing than towards vulgar light-skinned people.
When I grew up, we weren't called black; we were called Colored. To me, that was more fitting than Black because we are all different shades. The color Black has a negative connotation such as the black heart. If being black and the one-drop rule then there are many more blacks that are just passing. Everyone was originated from Africa, even whites. As a biracial person, I can not deny one side of my heritage when I am both. Most people like myself would call me German if I lived in Germany and only here in America is color a part of it. Only here in America do we call ourselves White, Black, Hispanic instead of just being Americans.
And the 'One Drop Rule', more and more, is being abandoned by many of us White folks; especially if the 'Black' person being discussed has light skin, hazel/blue/green eyes, etc. These days, they're defaulting to simply 'White'.
Now there's Colin Kaepernick; the first times I laid eyes on the man, I pegged him as an Arab man and Middle Easterners, as a group, are still (mostly) 'White'.
I know a lot of light skinned Black people with hazel/blue/green eyes who definitely wouldn't dare default to being labeled white, especially if they have two Black parents.
It should not have have the negative connotations but it does, because people wanted to force an idea. That does not mean that idea should remain, nor was it the original meaning. black comes from the ether and source.
No she’s not black and she knows she’s not that’s why she’s helping her people she done nothing for us
She is black. Her jamaican family are black. and mother indian. Google black people in st Elizabeth Jamaica ,and see what they look like. Light skin jamaican.
Her Jamaican family is bi racial she has Irish Jamaican roots as well
Where did this hate toward black people start and why?
It's biblical, just go study it from the Bible...🙏🏽
The name Kamala is actually used to name males from one of the tribes in the Western parts of Kenya, East Africa.
Most African Americans have 17-22% European DNA…..
4 of my grandchildren are mixed race. The oldest has the darkest skin but is obviously mixed. Her DNA is 55% white European and 45% African. She identifies with her blackness as her skin tone but her entire life she was raised in the white culture. She is now tryin to embrace her black culture
Thank you for doing this. I found it very interesting and I do say she is Black. We come in all shapes and sizes and backgrounds.
My husband is Mexican and darker than most of “black” Americans. My kids are dark skinned too! I love my dark baby’s & hubby
Do you know “most” Black Americans? That’s a bit of a generalization.
Well I'm like 5% African which I still can't track down and 8% papuan (which generally appear like Indian or black) along with my largest amount British, Scandinavian, Iberian, native American, Asian, Welsh, and other European. Wonder what I am? I've been raised white and look like I could be of Caucasian and native or Asian decent. The odd thing is I can't track where the African, papuan, or Asian .
How can a mother who is not a strong black woman, raise a strong black woman?
I generally like your videos. Most of the time, your information is presented in a balanced way. Also, it seems that there is not a universally agreed-upon definition of what defines...in this case...black. The old mantra comes to mind "You can't please all the people all the time".
However...in this video, you skirted around at least 50% of the obvious and omitted a full half to 75% of Harris' culture and background by overlooking the South Asian heritage she has and was raised with.
Harris' mother is fully South Asian, and her father has that heritage, as well. They had an arranged marriage as is customary with those of South Asian culture.
In addition to that, India has always used--sadly--the caste system to classify people by the color of their skin, but even those with the darkest skin tones there could never be considered to be of Sub-Saharan descent. It doesn't make judging someone based on the color of their skin right...but it has happened all over the world since time immemorial.
Thus, when South Asians were brought to Jamaica, only those with the darkest skins were considered "the lowest of the low"...even among those of their same culture.
Having a culturally-arranged marriage meant that Harris' father was--for all intents and purposes--considered of Indian descent and thus fit to marry in said culturally-arranged marriage. Some of his own ancestors were fully South Asian, and he was raised IN that culture.
As well...in the world of politics (and theatre) people have long created a pseudo-character to appeal to the majority of their constituents, but it may not be based in actual fact. If no one takes the time to question the actual facts...and no one who might have been around to verify whether there was truth to the given narrative. Most times, the truth eventually comes out. I highly doubt the tale of Kamala's mother taking her--at least on a regular basis--to black-led rallies. Kamala's mother has never been considered black, although some cultures may consider her "a person of color".
I just thought I'd point out some of the details you didn't cover.
I specifically chose to not address her South-Asian lineage more than just mentioning her mother immigrated from India because the video is about the criticism Kamala Harris gets about being called a Black woman. Thus, I traced her Black lineage according to how Black is currently defined. I addressed how Kamala said she was raised. She said her mother raised her to be a Black woman. Does that mean she wasn't involved in her mother's culture? I don't think so. However, I imagine her mother understood the times Kamala was being raised in and how the United States would see her. I did not think how her parents married or the caste system India uses was relevant to this video. This video is not to look at Kamala's full history but only to take a look at her Black ancestry only as to address why she calls herself Black. Her father's parents and grandparents did not look South Asian, and they have acknowledged their African ancestry. It sounds like you have chosen a side when it comes to how Kamala should be viewed though, and that's fine. Everyone won't agree on everything. Thanks for coming by to watch another video.
@@LifewithDrTrishVarner I agree...we all won't agree.
I have a difficult time with encapsulation of heritage that focuses completely only one aspect and ignores/divorces the rest of the heritage. But that's just me. Is there more to existence than just being of one heritage? I think so, and--my opinion--the sooner we embrace all heritages, the sooner there will be no divisions based on race in this world. But again...that's me. What do I know?!
I agree there's more to existence than just being of one heritage. I embrace all heritages and how anyone chooses to racially identify. I am not bothered how someone sees themselves. I typically prepare videos based on viewer interest (and of course my own interest). There was an interest regarding Kamala's African ancestry, and thus I decided to do this video on that point only.
Is there credible documentation of an arranged marriage? I don't see it. Thanks.
News articles state that Kamala's mother rejected her parents' suggestion of an arranged marriage. She chose her husband herself.
If you have any amount of a particular ethnic group, just remember that you would not exist without it. You would not be you. This goes for any identity. The truth is that we are all mixed anyway. According to my ethnicity results, I am one thing but according to my actual genealogy, it goes everywhere including Iberia, France, Cleopatra, Arabia and such which would also include Africa for sure because going back ten (10) generations, you have one thousand (1,000) great grandparents and Muhammad Ali is actually a cousin of mine through his ancestors.
When I was growing up, black wasn’t used. It’s probably because colored could be or was being used in a derogatory way that it was switched to black. Sometimes the more mixed race people are the more sensitive they are about race but I always admired people of mixed race and the truth is that there is no pure race. Everyone is a mixture. In reality, it could be that the more mixed you are, the better off you are in some ways genetically but there always seem to be inherited genetic problems of one kind or another. (Don’t tell anyone, I have mixed Brazilian kids… which includes Nigeria : )
I would regard kamala Harris as mixed cultured person who is jamaican Indian and has a nationality which is American. I wouldn’t say she is black as she is 50% jamaican and 50% Indian ..... I see her as being mixed cultured. 95% of jamaicans are of african decent and see themselves as being just Jamaicans of african origin which is reflected in the culture..... most jamaicans are not that mixed and tend to have about 90% plus african ancestry.... due to the many rebellions in the Caribbean especially Jamaica and Haiti where the mixing between slaves and slavers wasn’t that much unlike in America..... this is reflected in the dna tests taken by those jamaicans who have taken the test. I guess most afro people don’t aspire to the 1drop rule which is American.... we all have a cultural identity eg African American is just as valid as any other and should be claimed as such
I am not sure about the whole 1 drop thing. My mom has 1% Nigerian. I call her white because she is 99% white. But I guess it is up to the individuals, which us ok.
Jamaicans came from Africa.
@@patriciamitchell9365um not all Jamaicans did there are white Indian Chinese Portugese Jamaicans etc
She is black when it is convenient.
You would usually hear people described as black, yellow, brown, etc., even within the same community.
Sub-Saharan Africans don't racially describe themselves as "black" people.
Sub-Saharan Africans describe themselves as Africans, not Blacks.
No. She’s an immigrant. Not a black American and barely of African descent
I just started listening. It's interesting that you mention not being able to get an answer for the term black being the label for anyone dark skinned of African descent
I remember how that came about. It was the late 1960s and the term colored was in common usage. But then the entire civil rights and other parts of the culture came about and people of color simply say Black is beautiful. In other words it isn't necessary to talk of " colored" as politely referencing something not so good
Black is beautiful became a battle cry, Ebony magazine came out. I think even Vogue had elegant black models.
Us African Americans and African Caribbeans share the same ancestral roots from Africa because of the Transatlantic Slave Trade. We are connected and represent the African Diaspora.
I love all people but I am from Jamaica 🇯🇲 so I am from many we are one people.
Thank you for providing this information. My DNA shows I am more than half African, regardless of my completion. I have always identified as black, and my family encompasses all shades. It is hard to understand why some of our people would question if I am black. White people know I'm not white.😮
Love it
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I’ve come to the conclusion that white women can give birth to white children as well as to children of other racial groups, whereas women of other racial groups cannot give birth to white children. If mixed-race individuals should not identify as Black, then how should they identify? I see being mixed race not as a distinct race but as a state of being. Can a biracial person identify as white? I once read that in many South American countries, the phenomenon of 'whitening' has led to many people denying their Black ancestry and identifying as white instead. Does being white mean the same thing as being Caucasian?
Vice President Kamala Harris has ever right to identify as a black woman…Her father has African DNA
He is Afro-Jamaican & Irish ..I was taught the One Drop Rule by my parents that are both black.
if a person has a single drop of black blood and one black ancestor that person is black.
one can never tell what a person’s ethnicity is ..I have more African DNA than European DNA
I’m black, some people think I’m white.
@@AJ-mt9zt Like it or not, The One Drop Rule shaped the collective genome history of The Descendants of The Pre Civil War Black American Population. Many of us wouldn't be considered Black in other countries just because we have multi generational European admixture and even European origined haplogroups according to how they establish race from their perspective. And that's fine because it's their perspective but that shows that we're our own unique ethnic community in the US and this has impacted our identification no matter how much African and European admixture that we have.
BTW, I don't believe in The One Drop Rule myself. For example, if I had a recent ancestor who wasn't Black American, I would call myself "mixed." I just believe that there's a nuanced discussion to be had on a topic like this and that's what this video about VP Harris is about.
@Curtis Williams I agree with you. If I had a recent ancestor of another race, I would call myself mixed too.
@@curtiswilliams8285 I don’t consider myself mixed my father is brown skinned my mother is light skinned
I’ve never met a white ancestor they were born in the 1800’s ..the definition of a mixed person to me ..example ..one parent is black one parent white.
@@curtiswilliams8285 We can’t have it both ways ..I don’t recall people calling Former President Obama Mixed ..his mother is white…I remember us as a black society celebrating our first black President.
@@AJ-mt9zt And I'm speaking specifically on the US and how much The One Drop Rule impacted the genome history of The Descendants of The Pre Civil War Black American Population. It's the best way to explain the difference between having multi generational admixture going back to the Civil War when European ancestry dates back to and those with recent ancestry from other races/ethnicities.
No. U. Could. Clearly. See. Shws. Not. Black. As. A. Boot u. Could coearly. See. Shes. Not. Black. Shes. More. Redish. Color. And. Light. Skinned.
In parts of the Caribbean such as Trinidad and Tobago and Guyana Harris would be called a "dougla" a non insulting term simply meaning a mix between African/black and (East) lndian.
Is there a degree to the measure of blackness; as measured by the black society? Relatively different than how a Caucasian measure’s their whiteness or the measure of other races?
Love the background music
If we are honest we are so mixed with other blood, we aren't pure African. We are mixed blood.
I think her mom knew she'd be seen as black, or non white so she said. So she raised them to deal with that. I think the problem is is that people now question how much she's leaning on that to be elected. This is what her mother wanted for her. Whether it's weird or good it's how she was raised. When my daughter was in school she wanted to attend some kind of club in her school for Latin children. I was told because she wasn't "Spanish enough" meaning of 50%, she could not. She was deeply hurt by that.
Genealogy is always interesting but just see the possibility of a person being related to someone from Greek mythology or the Bible that would be incredible to be related to a legendary figure but there is no way to really know .
I wanted 2 do my DNA search. Then i realised that i might have more 🐷 blood than I'd like 2 admit. My Daddy was high coloured with blue eyes
I took my mums beautiful Black Skin
Kamila Harris is an Anchor ⚓ Baby
It's difficult for me to comprehend how the descendants of those who forcefully removed my ancestors from Africa, transported them to an unknown land, traded them as commodities, and subjected them to inhumane labor and sexual abuse, can now question my heritage as a person of African descent. Despite their imposition of their genetic makeup while inflicting lasting damage, they dare to challenge my identity as a black descendant.
Well said I express the same thoughts and feelings.
I'm a very light skinned person with a Afro. My family married other light skinned people to keep this color. But i have so many Black ancestors. So to me i'm Black and i don't care who thinks i'm not.
Hi Dr. Trish, I enjoy your thought provoking videos. I am not Black, but found some cousins we didn't know about through my test. They are about of 1/3 to 1/2 African descent . They identify as Black, and that is their right. Who is anyone to judge?
I agree. I tend to live and let live. I am not bothered by how someone chooses to racially identify.
In Africa, at least in Malawi, my country, you'd be looked at as another fellow black person
I label myself respectfully " a man of color. I'm Lightskin and in the summer get very brown. In the winter I get much lighter again with red undertones.
Great grandmom of a back to black family my great grands are mostly brown and appear black. They all consider themselves mixed race
I want to know about Civil Rights Activist Diane Nash's ancestry because she identifies as black even though she could pass for white. So what makes Diane Nash, Kamala Harris, Barack and Michelle Obama, Amara La Negra, Beyonce, Lala Anthony, Rihanna, Tyra Banks, Malcom X, Fredrick Douglass, Hallie Berry, Nikki Minaj, Megan Markle, Cardi B, Naomi Harris, Megan Good, Tia and Tamara Mowry and Dorthy Dandridge any different from one another if they all have black, white, latin, indian, etc ancestry in there bloodline, but identify as black, afrolatino, but are biracial or multiracial. Black skin tone comes in all shades, just like black, caramel, almond, hazelnut, toffee, java, espresso, ebony, deep ebony, brown, cinnamon, and beige, etc. I identify as afro-bi-multiracial latino because I am half puerto rican from my mom (and they all mixed there) who is light skinned and my dad looks black with is ebony skin complexión, has 4a hair and speaks Spanish, and he's half Belize Garífuna and West african decent and Mayan from Guatemala, which there because of colorism puts in a class as black race, just like here in the U.S. so my question is that I to be truly black or African-American, you have to be 100%, or both pare ts to be black, but no one is 100%. I also heard that at least 50% of your ancestry as well has to be black or African decent. So who can say they are black or who identify as black. Please clarify some more for me based on what I wrote on these celebrities because I'm still do not understand. Your response is much appreciated.
She is dougla a black and Indian mix
In my country Zimbabwe she would classified as mulatto, colored, biracial not black but in the USA it's different and it's no big deal here in my country if anyone is of mixed race as we call mixed race people our cousins, nephews and nieces and grandchildren(mzukulu)
If Vice-President Harris wants to call herself black, that is her business. I would like to point out that not all black peoples come from Africa. Australian Aborigines, Torres Strait Islanders(Tasmanians), Papuan New Guineans, Solomon Islanders, Trobriand Islanders, Andaman Islanders, Dravidians in India, and Negritos in The Philippines, Thailand, Cambodia, Viet Nam, and Indonesia are black.
I am 97.4 European, 2% sub saharan african, but never knew it until i did my ancestry. I have curly hair. But I have never been considered Black. I think my 4th great grandmother was actually a slave.
well in Kamala Harris case ,there is the obvious:her mother was Indian ,born in Indian,leaving her half black .
She’s mixed race ,there’s obviously Indian ,European,African and even likely Native American….she’s a true mixed race and call herself what she likes….why are “blacks” unable to accept that mixed race people are just as proud to identify as black as full bloodied black …I wouldn’t be surprised if those who say they’re black are also mixed race
Is this important Black is Beautiful . We need not to worry what they think about us. It's 2021 and we are still worried about what they think. I'm black and I'm proud. I'm light skin and I'm proud.
Kamala is welcome in the Caribbean as mixed race. We love her intelligence. She fits in easily in Trinidad with our Indians and Black populations. Both her parents fit there too, plus she is beautiful. I love her Bay Area connections. You Americans waste time debating stupid, petty shit. We will take her, her sister, nieces, uncle from India, toute bagaille, and they would love the islands. Our ex Prime Minister named Kamala, was educated at UWI in Jamaica and danced to reggae music really well.
@@gaildelima2755 I appreciate your perspective and was agreeing with your comment until I got down to your statement insulting the discussion as petty and stupid (which almost didn’t get posted). People can agree or disagree without hurling insults at one another. Please keep this in mind if you choose to comment in the future. I also do not allow cussing in the comments.
No! Black Americans do not have to reclassify our Blackness based on who it displeases internationally. That is weakness, not strength! Each group of people must define who they are geo-internally once you penetrate their nations. As the oldest, and majority Black people in the USA, Black Americans get to define the standard of Blackness. If you go to another nation outside of the political borders of the USA, the majority in those nations get to define what their Black idealism should stand on. Just sayin'.
I remember watching UK news. There were angry yt ppl yelling about the nword ppl. They were referring to Indians. Also just seen a Korean show where an Indian was called black.
🇯🇲 Respect 🇺🇸 🌎
I Think it is Black indians though it is a caste system in India and the Black ones are called "untouchables"
I believe Pam is going for the winn8ng side. To her it seems as if black Americans do not seem to be winning. If she thought that blacks in USA were winning. She wo u ld proudlly admit she is black American.
One drop rule I can’t follow especially knowing it came from a racist, many Hispanics will be considered MultiRacial, for my race I choose Black and I only have 26% sub Saharan African, my mother is 30% African and also picks Black for her race, I tell people there are Black people of different shades and color, my Grandmother was a Black woman but born in Puerto Rico and didn’t speak English she was darker than most of my African American friends.
Thanks for sharing. Do you think you identify as Black because your mother and Grandmother did?
Anabel...I agree with you! My first husband was Puerto Rican. His father's family had issues with him marrying his mother because they considered her heritage to be "less pure" than them...and that was within Puerto Rico. They married anyway and raised their family. My mother-in-law was a selfless, giving person with soooo many traits worth emulating, and raised a wonderful family!!! She clearly was a mixture of Taino, Black, and Spanish, but it didn't change the person she inherently was.
@@LifewithDrTrishVarner I will say mainly because of my mother, 1st time I saw her signed some papers I was 7 and she checked black for race, I never asked y but as I got older I did the same, I couldn't choose white, oh anything else, funny thing is from my siblings I'm the only one who checks black for race, they perfer not to pick anything.
@@joannathesinger770 sadly many Puerto Ricans are racist within each other, I'm glad that you got to see what a great person she really was
We all needed to read the Bible from Genenis to Relevation, to find out about how Black came about.❤❤❤❤❤❤😂😢😅😊😮🎉
"We're not Americans, we're AFRICANS who happen to be in America. We were kidnapped and brought here against our will from Africa. We didn't land on Plymouth Rock - that rock landed on us!"
--Malcolm X
Word.
When you say 'Irish' its Ulster Scots is what you are talking about
Without going into a long complicated
History.
Its like saying Isreal when you mean Palestinian..
Also Uster Scots were the first into America. Irish came much later after the famine
Kamila is mostly Hindu Indian from her Mother side 50% and her Father is Bi Racial mostly on the Jamaican side and a Slave ownership on his side of the family tree 🎄..
Can you please Mariah Carey
We are all human blacks comes in color tan black yellow white brown.
Black does mean color you are. Black means people of enslaved African ancestry. Because when you say African American you don't know wheather we are from Africa or from America.
She has the right to claim to be a human being first and second to be socially accepted but in my heart and soul she's a black woman or better yet a black lady
She is mixed biracial
Your family is genetically similar to mine.