Who's the Biggest Data Hoarder at LMG?

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  • Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
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    CHAPTERS
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    0:00 Intro
    0:39 Andy the photo hoarder
    4:11 David the game hoarder
    7:25 Mark the wedding hoarder
    13:08 Linus the HDD hoarder
    16:02 Jake the unnecessary hoarder
    18:57 How Acronis helped us back up
    19:59 Conclusion
    20:22 Outro
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  • @iceleon25
    @iceleon25 2 года назад +6471

    With more experience, Dan will become a fantastic host. He has the natural charisma

    • @sumaoncrack2251
      @sumaoncrack2251 2 года назад +43

      67 likes no replies let me fix that

    • @alexfinns6162
      @alexfinns6162 2 года назад

      @@sumaoncrack2251 492 now

    • @yessirr3551
      @yessirr3551 2 года назад +4

      yes

    • @evangreavu9621
      @evangreavu9621 2 года назад +60

      I love Dan's dry humor

    • @Superagent666
      @Superagent666 2 года назад +20

      He seems a little combative with some of the other hosts in videos I've seen. Hopefully he can learn to share without talking over/cutting off other people

  • @maxzeidler4972
    @maxzeidler4972 2 года назад +2910

    I freaking love Dan, we haven't seen much of him yet, but he's becoming one of my favorite personalities at LTT!

    • @Vincent-ye6pe
      @Vincent-ye6pe 2 года назад +86

      Fr, he's funny but so chill, we can see that in their other video when they "build" Linus's house

    • @minidude993
      @minidude993 2 года назад +39

      Yeah I've def been enjoying him! I also like Jake too so this video was great

    • @EnsignLovell
      @EnsignLovell 2 года назад +39

      Dan is indeed the man. Knowledgeable about hardware, friendly, will happily roast Linus.

    • @jspurg
      @jspurg 2 года назад +4

      I was just thinking this in the last video. Dan tech tips now

    • @sandzhs
      @sandzhs 2 года назад +1

      Same

  • @shortanimationz
    @shortanimationz 2 года назад +1605

    "He probably got so much dopamine saving the day that he's never gonna delete any of this"
    Dan is hysterical without even trying

    • @PetrFlosman
      @PetrFlosman Год назад +1

      When does he say it? I cannot find it. Also can someone explain this sentence please, it doesn't make sense to me.

    • @eflarsen
      @eflarsen 9 месяцев назад +6

      @@PetrFlosman saving the day made him super happy so he's gonna keep all the videos just in case he gets to save the day again, basically. It's in the Mark the wedding hoarder section.

    • @raw_000
      @raw_000 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@PetrFlosman 10:18 in the segment about "Mark the wedding hoarder"

  • @WahrerKuroKiba
    @WahrerKuroKiba 2 года назад +275

    It took me to long to remember "linux isos" means pirated stuff
    because I genuinely have linux isos on my backup/NAS/whatever server

    • @ctyoung0271
      @ctyoung0271 Год назад +64

      Yeah, I've gotten so accustomed to r/datahoarders that I didn't even question the idea that someone would have like every version of Ubuntu just for the sake of posterity...

    • @billeckert6614
      @billeckert6614 Год назад +5

      I realized about a month ago

    • @connoisseurofcookies2047
      @connoisseurofcookies2047 Год назад +9

      @@billeckert6614 I realized about 5 minutes ago. I genuinely hoard disk images and I thought I wasn't the only one.

    • @Firepulser
      @Firepulser Год назад +16

      I didn't realize it until I read your comment lol, for I too actually have Linux ISO on my backup drives. Ubuntu 9.04, 5.10, Lubuntu 10, 11, 12,14, etc and various obscure distros for "ancient" hardware like Tiny Core Linux. So that joke sailed right over my head. I just thought they were avoiding the subject of their pirated goods altogether.

  • @Holly1000
    @Holly1000 2 года назад +2427

    Dan's such a good host, enjoying seeing him more

    • @mavd5831
      @mavd5831 2 года назад +8

      Agreed! More Dan!

    • @MickySarge
      @MickySarge 2 года назад +10

      Dan is a natural! Great fit here.

    • @beatsbyandrew
      @beatsbyandrew 2 года назад +10

      How do they keep finding people who are more and more likeable?

    • @aserta
      @aserta 2 года назад +1

      Agreed! Very cool cat.

    • @shinramiddlemanager7949
      @shinramiddlemanager7949 2 года назад +1

      Looks like Alisson Becker

  • @WitchyRhia
    @WitchyRhia 2 года назад +1747

    dan is great, you can tell he's knowledgeable plus he's naturally got that snappy witty rapport with everyone, hoping to see him more often on LTT!

    • @ConnorHammond
      @ConnorHammond 2 года назад +40

      10:18 When Dan said "I mean, he probably got so much dopamine saving the day that he's never going to delete any of this." I laughed quite loudly.

    • @hushpuppi3
      @hushpuppi3 2 года назад +17

      Plus he's funny without it feeling like he has 'too much' personality, or overtly loud. Just an enjoyable person to have on camera and/or interacting with other people on camera

    • @ketroucioued-sly3942
      @ketroucioued-sly3942 2 года назад +5

      I liked him, since the first moment I laid eyes on him.

    • @fredwerza3478
      @fredwerza3478 2 года назад +12

      Dan might be the biggest rising star at LTT

    • @Katjaneway
      @Katjaneway 2 года назад +2

      I'd like this comment but you're at 669 and I don't want to ruin it. lol

  •  2 года назад +175

    I find it so funny how they find it sooo weird that a photographer keeps backups of his work but super reasonable that someone keeps recordings of all the games they have played

    • @Naokarma
      @Naokarma 10 месяцев назад +15

      While I agree overall, at least the game recordings are your own, and not just a bunch of strangers.

    • @sminem6572
      @sminem6572 5 месяцев назад +13

      @@Naokarma To be fair, you never know how many years down the line you'll get a call from a family asking if they still have the videos because they lost all of their stuff in a fire, etc. If you can afford it and it doesn't become a waste of time to maintain it, no reason to not just do it.

  • @xperia5295
    @xperia5295 2 года назад +748

    Dan is actually quickly becoming one of my fav personalities at LTT.

    • @Bayofthe91st
      @Bayofthe91st 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@lucasburlingham877 Would be cool if he has a channel and called it Dantech's Inferno

  • @Elixir140
    @Elixir140 2 года назад +823

    "He's not storing Linux ISOs, he's storing other people's weddings" had me in stitches XD

    • @MikkoRantalainen
      @MikkoRantalainen 2 года назад +8

      I agree. I'm becoming huge fan of Dan. As a bonus, Linus seems to sometimes pronounce is name so that I hear "dad".

    • @fredwerza3478
      @fredwerza3478 2 года назад +8

      I dunno who would store 100's of other people's wedding videos for decades --- some weird kind of fetish

    • @Deltatron
      @Deltatron 2 года назад

      Same lmao

    • @brettcherry3481
      @brettcherry3481 2 года назад +3

      Give the tapes to the people who's wedding it was; problem solved 🙌🏼

    • @fredwerza3478
      @fredwerza3478 2 года назад

      @@brettcherry3481 good idea but he said there are literally hundreds of different weddings on those tapes!

  • @JeffGeerling
    @JeffGeerling 2 года назад +3250

    I think they should sponsor another challenge: someone at the office gets to pick one storage system/NAS for each of these data hoarders and take it offline. The victor is the one who can get back up and running with all their data intact the quickest.

    • @jaiden051
      @jaiden051 2 года назад +37

      Ooh a verified person. Hello

    • @modcolocko
      @modcolocko 2 года назад +74

      @@jaiden051 All hail Jeff Geerling

    • @jasperfaren371
      @jasperfaren371 2 года назад +121

      That's a very red shirt Jeff thing to say

    • @cmusgrave
      @cmusgrave 2 года назад +11

      Unleash a chaos monkey? :)

    • @angerthosenear_yt
      @angerthosenear_yt 2 года назад +25

      Only 192 days with your Petabyte Pi project!

  • @hoodzie9671
    @hoodzie9671 2 года назад +729

    Dan is already getting camera comfy, he's fitting right in at ltt

  • @lev_e3201
    @lev_e3201 Год назад +116

    Capturing lossless vhs footage actually requires a huge amount of data. I started doing the same and a single 6 hr vhs tape (recorded in extended play) is about 240 gb. Of course, you can save a ton of space by compressing the video file to a lossy format, but then you would be losing a little data and that wouldn’t be data hoarding. Those bins of tapes could easily comprise another 25-50 tb of data.

    • @namesurname4666
      @namesurname4666 Год назад +9

      digital tapes (dv) also use a lot more than regular codecs like h264/mpeg2

    • @namesurname4666
      @namesurname4666 Год назад +8

      capturing analog footage in lossless is also better because the signal has noise and a lot of movement

  • @Sirdustetryne
    @Sirdustetryne 2 года назад +1023

    Dan the man! He has the foundation of a great LTT host.

  • @jacobeaton4042
    @jacobeaton4042 2 года назад +670

    Dan is quickly becoming one of the best LTT hosts, need more of his snarky ass lmao

    • @jacobeaton4042
      @jacobeaton4042 2 года назад +1

      @🏳️‍⚧️KeebeTheKirbyPlush be gone trans flag freak 🙏🏼🙏🏼

    • @randomactsofcar310
      @randomactsofcar310 2 года назад +3

      Really? I find him rather unlikable

    • @blackarnold
      @blackarnold Год назад

      @@randomactsofcar310 thats just you, hes just like every other nerd at lmg

  • @eruannster
    @eruannster 2 года назад +113

    I just want to shower some extra love for Dan. He seems like that lovely, knowledgeable, dry humor best friend everyone needs to have. More Dan!

  • @astral6749
    @astral6749 2 года назад +83

    I'm data hoarding my Zoom classes right now. I'm thinking that I might use them in the future if I ever want to re-educate myself (probably won't ever happen tho).

    • @monsman566
      @monsman566 Год назад +1

      mannnnn me too! i really wanna delete it but felt like it might be useful in the future

    • @Nobody7720
      @Nobody7720 Год назад +1

      Let me get those

    • @Muhluri
      @Muhluri Год назад

      Damn I might consider that

    • @Axodus
      @Axodus Год назад +2

      send zooms

    • @ReidvinK
      @ReidvinK Год назад +2

      remember to tag your stuff

  • @_noize
    @_noize 2 года назад +678

    Dan is already a legend, what a great addition to LTT.

  • @lefunghi6151
    @lefunghi6151 2 года назад +549

    I’d love to get a Linus Tech Tips Guide on how to properly set up an all around data storage and backup system for personal usa cases. Perhaps in Tiers from light users to professional? Would both be super convenient to have and probably make for a nice video!

    • @jsutrov
      @jsutrov 2 года назад +11

      The problem is they'd need to make a ton of separate videos or cram loads of methods into a supercut because needs are not uniform. Short answer for most people is managed off-site ('cloud').

    • @chrisbaker8533
      @chrisbaker8533 2 года назад +30

      @@jsutrov Yeah, as long as you encrypt everything you put on there, and pray their algorithm doesn't decide that 'a' is now 'offensive' and deletes everything.
      I'm being a bit hyperbolic, but you should be aware of what the cloud storage's policies and procedures are, and just like local, don't trust it completely.

    • @jsutrov
      @jsutrov 2 года назад

      @@chrisbaker8533 okay

    • @iClone101
      @iClone101 2 года назад

      @@chrisbaker8533 I mean, the only time that's ever happened was because the FBI seized all the servers and refuse to take the machines online ever again.

    • @thachester
      @thachester 2 года назад +12

      @@chrisbaker8533 Yea....I had a online storage drive I used just for some stuff I used in multiple sites. It wasn't important but it was a decent collection of stuff I've obtained over the years...well I left the field I was in as a career but kept the stuff as I still did some minor private work. Well I forgot to update my credit card and because I wasn't active using it anymore and an old email address, I let the payments lapse and they deleted all my stuff. It wasn't anything that would affect my life but it's something that could easily be overlooked. Offsite storage is smart as protection against fires, floods, crazy girlfriends, but it's not an end all be all and no solution is.

  • @XTJ7
    @XTJ7 2 года назад +16

    Jake got me at "That's a 1660 Ti, that's for linux ISO encoding" :D Good old linux ISOs

  • @Balekkar
    @Balekkar 2 года назад +45

    This video made me feel so much more justified about my drive situation. My desktop has 5 hard/solid state drives for a total of 7TB of storage. Most people treat me like some kind of weirdo because I have so much. But I don't hold a candle to any of this.

    • @rrecee2639
      @rrecee2639 2 года назад +4

      Me too. I thought I was excessive with about 12TB of storage half of which is a backup copy. A lot I know I could do without. I keep it because it doesn't physically take up any more space.

    • @Exponaut_R-01
      @Exponaut_R-01 2 года назад +1

      I needed this video for sure. Sadly, it takes forever to backup even if we don't have dozens of terabytes worth.

    • @Windows98R
      @Windows98R Год назад +6

      My PC has 32TB total so you aren’t in the weird category at all. Storage is one of those things that if I can afford to, I never want to deal with “oh no, I need to delete this n that” so I can fit my new game in here, or backup a phone etc.

    • @Naokarma
      @Naokarma 10 месяцев назад +1

      1TB SSD on my pc, and that's all I need. I'd like 4 total in the future, but I'm not even close to filling up my 1TB. Watching this video feels like aliens talking due to how wildly different our lives are, with storage. Genuinely, what are y'all doing with all that space?
      I think it just comes down to profession, cause everyone questioned is obviously involved with video content production, and all I got is some Steam games and a couple bits of art I thought was neat that I never even look at, which are backed up on Mega, and that's it.

  • @xyzzy64
    @xyzzy64 2 года назад +385

    honestly, i understand the "hoarding" of wedding footage and would do the same. who wants to be that guy who has someone reach out in a desperate effort to reclaim footage of their wedding and have to say "sorry i deleted it".

    • @michaelbacqalen1109
      @michaelbacqalen1109 2 года назад +22

      True, and I don't think it is going to take a lot of storage for those wedding footage and using HDDs, it is not going to be expensive either. Heck, my mum wants to get her wedding footage back too, but she couldn't find her wedding photographer anymore

    • @joelbates6499
      @joelbates6499 2 года назад +33

      Start a email campaign to the old customers: "I'm performing a life cleaning. I have video of your wedding. Would you like it all? This is how much $ I'd like for it." Then "Pfft"

    • @bruh-tx7tb
      @bruh-tx7tb Год назад +9

      @@michaelbacqalen1109 nah it's not the photographer job to store that shit. It's weird to store other people's wedding photos. Just give the photos to the couple and delete their shit. Problem solve. If they lost it that's their problem.

    • @TechnoBabble
      @TechnoBabble Год назад +4

      @@bruh-tx7tb photographer here. My "keeper" raw files are kept forever. If a couple wants them again at some point in the future they pay a fee for that, it also allows me to print their stuff for them in the future as printing the delivered JPEGs isn't great.

    • @bruh-tx7tb
      @bruh-tx7tb Год назад

      @@TechnoBabble That's creepy bruh.

  • @StudioNirin
    @StudioNirin 2 года назад +366

    Joining in the love for new guy Dan. Super chill, deadpan wit, perfect fit for the team. Hope to see more of him.

  • @EAGLEMANFREEDOM
    @EAGLEMANFREEDOM 2 года назад +22

    I love how fondly Jake speaks about things in Linus’s house.

  • @komocakeps527
    @komocakeps527 2 года назад +11

    440gb of HOMEWORK

  • @saccaed
    @saccaed 2 года назад +359

    The overestimate is understandable. I remember helping someone with transferring their linux isos to a NAS unit and before starting they wildly overestimated the data on discs. 1TB of CD storage is ~1400 CDs. I've also done the same when I migrated a bunch of linux isos from DVD to a NAS and similarly overestimated; 1TB is ~250 DVDs. If any one person estimates they have more than 1 TB of CDs or 2 TB of DVDs that is a sign to ask for disc counts instead. 1400 discs is a ~1.68 meter tall stack.

    • @gljames24
      @gljames24 2 года назад +7

      How would Blu-ray or M-disk affect this?

    • @GODAXEN
      @GODAXEN 2 года назад +7

      3.28 TB and 611 disk betwen cd and dvd, this is an underestimate as this are only the cataloged discs.

    • @saccaed
      @saccaed 2 года назад +9

      @@gljames24 M-Disk can be DVD or Blu Ray capacities. Standard bluray is 25GB or 40 per 1TB. Dual layer disks for DVD or Blu Ray can be a consideration as those are double capacity. I would assume single layer capacity though unless otherwise is known.

    • @TheOrthodoxWaffle
      @TheOrthodoxWaffle 2 года назад +19

      Oh my god i'm a dumbass. I was like "why are you backing up linux isos, just download them from the repo". This video makes so much sense now. thank you.

    • @saccaed
      @saccaed 2 года назад +1

      @@GODAXEN Working on a small child sized stack.

  • @Zsaisse
    @Zsaisse 2 года назад +340

    I've never just loved a new lmg personality quite like Dan, last time it was Anthony, but Dan is so enjoyable to watch, and I kinda dig the Dan x Jake format, I'd like to see more of this unlikely duo.

    • @nemtudom5074
      @nemtudom5074 2 года назад +3

      Dan + Jake is EASILY a straightman duo, with Dan being the straightman and Jake being the agent of chaos

  • @Lizlodude
    @Lizlodude 2 года назад +89

    Definitely want more of Dan, was fun to watch him in this and the house move-in.
    Not a fan of the way the video was structured though, I assume there were some limitations in having the interviews shot first, but it felt a bit disjointed; sometimes it seemed like you were addressing the person being interviewed, and sometimes not. Just my 2 cents (not Jay's though)
    Lastly, a word of advice: TEST YOUR BACKUPS! The worst time to find out the backup has an issue is when you're trying to restore it after a failure.

  • @macoxynormous8569
    @macoxynormous8569 2 года назад +12

    I thought I was a hoarder with a 4tb drive.

  • @brainlessdude
    @brainlessdude 2 года назад +565

    Dan will be a great host on its own in no time. Let him get more experienced and get comfortable. He is already such a great addition to the team. Hold him tight and never let him leave!

  • @orrygel
    @orrygel 2 года назад +130

    Linus is a legend. He listens to the viewers and gave us more DAN!!!

    • @JonManProductions
      @JonManProductions 2 года назад +7

      We may have lost Taran the Macro Man, but now we got Dan The New Man.

    • @nit-Inundate
      @nit-Inundate 2 года назад +5

      @@JonManProductions I still miss Taran, man

  • @MisterRorschach90
    @MisterRorschach90 Год назад +52

    If I would’ve had patience and waited to get more space rather than constantly deleting files, I too would also be a data hoarder with bedrooms full of storage. Though honestly it would get to a point where I would consolidate everything. Back in the day an external 250gb drive was a big deal. I literally still have 512mb thumb drives lying around.

    • @RedstoneMiner18
      @RedstoneMiner18 Год назад +2

      I got a 64mb thumb drive, they rare tho and i want more of them

    • @plexnbrown760
      @plexnbrown760 Год назад +1

      P

    • @SiphonRayzar
      @SiphonRayzar Год назад +1

      @@RedstoneMiner18 I still have my 16mb USB 2.0 thumb driver from over 15 years ago.

    • @RedstoneMiner18
      @RedstoneMiner18 Год назад

      @@SiphonRayzar where does one find one?

    • @SiphonRayzar
      @SiphonRayzar Год назад +1

      @@RedstoneMiner18 I got mine from walmart way back in the day. No idea where to find one that small now.

  • @jennymckenzie5304
    @jennymckenzie5304 Год назад +6

    Dan is beyond hilarious omg.
    "Hundreds of terabytes... Of someone else's wedding..."
    The delivery is so perfect

  • @johnsakosky1160
    @johnsakosky1160 2 года назад +72

    I had a dual hdd failure on a raid 5 array a few years back. Lost 10 years of family photos. There were tears. Now I have 2 separate raid 6 arrays each with redundant power supplies, battery backup, cold spares, and cloud sync of important files. Some lessons you only really learn after you get a kick in the gut.

    • @maotio
      @maotio 2 года назад +13

      The chances of both drives failing are very slim... that sucks

    • @jensenambrose3333
      @jensenambrose3333 2 года назад

      Yep, I only started using back blaze after I had an external Seagate drive fail that was holding backups as well as some data that wasn't backed up. Now I use back blaze after I had to go through that painful process.

    • @vamwolf
      @vamwolf 2 года назад

      Am the same way with family photo

    • @gregdaweson4657
      @gregdaweson4657 2 года назад

      *laughs in Mdisc*

    • @redpheonix1000
      @redpheonix1000 2 года назад +10

      This isn't meant to rub salt on the wound or anything, but this is exactly the reason there's a saying that goes " *RAID is not a backup* "

  • @TylerAdler
    @TylerAdler 2 года назад +167

    More Dan please he's great

    • @mdukasa
      @mdukasa 2 года назад +4

      @🏳️‍⚧️KeebeTheKirbyPlush stop spamming every comment

  • @Gizfreek
    @Gizfreek 2 года назад +10

    Video aside, you guys made an excellent job with your new hires, especially Dan and Adam. It baffles me that they are just there and perform on spot in their first videos, huge props to them and the team!

  • @hotrod54chevy
    @hotrod54chevy 2 года назад +7

    I always wanted to see Jake's NAS, and would actually like a full video on it 😅 But the server stuff really does it for me anyway, so I'm looking forward to future videos on this!

  • @25Dzone
    @25Dzone 2 года назад +306

    Dan is like a less snarky, more subtly funny Lewis Brindley from Yogscast

    • @jekanyika
      @jekanyika 2 года назад +29

      The Bristol pusher.

    • @curtisss
      @curtisss 2 года назад +5

      I haven't watched Yogscast in forever, what do they do now? I watched back in the shadow of israphael days

    • @blessedbull1
      @blessedbull1 2 года назад +14

      @@curtisss the triforce podcast is pretty good to listen to if you are doing something mundane like driving.

    • @monkeyman0759
      @monkeyman0759 2 года назад +9

      @@curtisss unfortunately they just churn out gmod or whatever is currently popular as much as possible instead of making quality stuff. Sips is still going great though and has never lost me. What a guy.

    • @curtisss
      @curtisss 2 года назад

      @@monkeyman0759 I used to love the chemistry between Simon and his friend (who's name escaped my head now)

  • @ArunavaVishalDutta
    @ArunavaVishalDutta 2 года назад +254

    It was from LTT video I came to know about Acronis. Visited their website and casually went to their career page and was lucky to see they have openings in India and now working with Acronis. 🤞🏻

    • @RaphaelSwinkels
      @RaphaelSwinkels 2 года назад

      acronis is good sofware just a bit slow for my liking

    • @random36745
      @random36745 2 года назад +20

      Can you ask some of the devs why they hate error messages that are useful?
      -Sincerely Acronis Cyber Backup customer.

      Acronis software - "Hey, something went wrong. You should probably fix this".
      User - "sure, what's the error message? Can't be a big deal".
      Acronis - "oh this is super simple. Dhfh4&7/'!&cbskc-zhfe".
      Google - "don't look at me. I don't know what they are talking about"

    • @ArunavaVishalDutta
      @ArunavaVishalDutta 2 года назад +12

      @@random36745 actually there’s log files *mms0.log* etc which keeps track of all error messages and everything, you can check those logs actually and supply it to acronis support team they will surely look into that and fix it.

    • @ArunavaVishalDutta
      @ArunavaVishalDutta 2 года назад +9

      @@RaphaelSwinkels will pass the feedback, you can put in a support request as well. Team will surely check the performance and perform any optimizations if needed.

    • @SonofTheMorningStar666
      @SonofTheMorningStar666 2 года назад +6

      Congrats!

  • @henyourface
    @henyourface 2 года назад

    More of these please! Enjoyed this and the one where you showed what your rigs were

  • @maxyp
    @maxyp 2 года назад

    Yes Dan! Welcome to the team, 3rd video iv seen you in are you are so good on camera. Can’t wait to see more of you!

  • @Neoxon619
    @Neoxon619 2 года назад +394

    I figured it’d be Linus considering that he at least backs up all of his Blu-Ray movies. Not to mention that massive server at his new house.

    • @lunatic_gaming123
      @lunatic_gaming123 2 года назад +48

      Technically it is Linus because he wanted to keep all of the ltt footage

    • @sumaoncrack2251
      @sumaoncrack2251 2 года назад +1

      100 likes i fixed it, i think

    • @erichb4530
      @erichb4530 2 года назад +2

      used to be able to mount full bluray ISO's with media center software on my HPTC to keep the menus and uncompressed audio etc, but I gave up trying to figure out anyone supporting this anymore. sad

    • @erichb4530
      @erichb4530 2 года назад

      @Bobbybob thanks I appreciate you pointing out that option, but browsing windows folders to launch an ISO with VLC would be a pretty terrible couch experience

    • @carl2k6
      @carl2k6 2 года назад +1

      @@erichb4530 doesn't Kodi do this out of the box?

  • @Asdasdas1337
    @Asdasdas1337 2 года назад +48

    "Do LMG staff practice what they preach?" duude, LMG staff didnt even set up scrubs on their production storage server.

    • @IamBananas007
      @IamBananas007 2 года назад

      whatttt. that's insane. it's so easy to do.

    • @Intel-i7-9700k
      @Intel-i7-9700k 2 года назад

      @@orangejuice6286 You just cancelled LTT because they did an oopsie. Nah man.

    • @nickcollins1052
      @nickcollins1052 2 года назад

      Yeah and they've admitted their mistake but like they said they have been figuring all this out as they go. That server was set up years ago and it wasn't an automatic feature back then I do believe.
      Plus as Linus has always said the petabyte project has always just been a flex and not actually practical. He doesn't need to store every second of footage they've ever shot it's just a fun project that gives them an excuse to dable in the more insane and expensive side of data storage

    • @Intel-i7-9700k
      @Intel-i7-9700k 2 года назад

      @@nickcollins1052 Exactly. Tech is you live and you learn. And you learn by venturing out to new projects and areas.

  • @mabbaa
    @mabbaa 2 года назад +4

    Dan is the kind of person we all love and want to have a coworker/friend/host/person we all want in our lives. Also, the Jake and Dan duo, love it.

  • @m0nkeyman911
    @m0nkeyman911 2 года назад +50

    "It's unnecessary because he's not storing Linux ISOs"
    Dan is good

  • @danielsouders5553
    @danielsouders5553 2 года назад +72

    Dan is quickly becoming one of my favorite members of the team

  • @shaneofcanada7042
    @shaneofcanada7042 2 года назад +60

    Well, today I learned that I'm a data horder... This whole time I just thought a good way of backing up data was - fill drive - remove drive and place in drawer - buy and install new drive... It's worked so far!

    • @danieljensen2626
      @danieljensen2626 2 года назад +11

      TBH that's not that terrible, although it's not really a backup unless you have 2 copies of all of the drives. Powering them on once every year or two can help a bit with bit rot.

    • @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena
      @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena Год назад

      Honestly i say it depends on what you do, also depends on how big the drives were as filling up 10tb drives at a time makes for great storage considering you can get 14tb drives for around $200 USD and 2tb SSDs for around $60 USD

  • @jubuttib
    @jubuttib 2 года назад +28

    Dan has been an absolute delight ever since he first showed up. Hopefully he likes being on camera, because I like seeing him on it. =)
    I'm in the Drobo situation myself. It's been great for me honestly, managed to keep my data through multiple hard drive failures, and my original unit only broke when I was stupid and forgot to take the drives out while moving house. Didn't break completely, but the connectors got a bit flaky. I got a replacement unit without a hassle and it has been working great too.
    The PROBLEM is that all that was a couple of years back. Drobo right now seems to exist in a weird limbo, where none of their stuff is available in stores, they barely communicate with customers, and they just seem like they're not there anymore, or won't be in a while. And that's not a good thing. So I'm trying to figure out a replacement ASAP, will probably go with Synology. Just annoyed that I can only get a NAS, not a DAS these days...
    No physical backups of my own, if I could afford those I'd have more storage full stop, but I do have basically all of my data (some filetypes skipped) backed up on cloud should something catastrophic happen, so I'm not actually that worried. It'd be a huge inconvenience, but not the end of the world.
    EDIT: And before anyone asks "why DAS?": Main reason is that my cloud backup provider doesn't support NAS backups on my service level, and the level that would support them is 5x the price. Secondary is that I don't want to have to rebuild the libraries of all of my media servers (Plex, Ubooquity, etc.), and a DAS would allow me to just stealthily assign the same drive letter to a new one and none of the software would be any the wiser... =)

  • @maxman1244
    @maxman1244 2 года назад +2

    I friggin love Dan so much, just clicks on camera, naturally funny (doesn't feel like he's "trying" iykwim)
    Knowledgable of course, and personally, I really love his softer voice, it adds to the hilarity of the jokes

  • @keoki82
    @keoki82 2 года назад +7

    It would be helpful to cite sources for the claim that keeping backups on unplugged external hard drives is unsafe and/or leads to bit rot. I run a full surface scan of all my externals once a year and I've never had any problems. Keeping HDD backups running 24/7 seems far more risky to me. Power outages and surges happen, and not everyone can afford a UPS. Also, USB externals are not designed to run 24/7, most of them park heads very frequently. Leaving them plugged in all the time will wear them out very quickly.

  • @demofighter
    @demofighter 2 года назад +98

    My wife lost her phone in a porter potty and we thought we lost the first 11 months of our first child's life. Years later, facebook, and google photos started doing those memory things. We started bawling the first time google was like "here are some memories!" We pay for a backup service now, because of that experience.

    • @psycronizer
      @psycronizer 2 года назад +10

      are you seriously telling us that you just left all your data of that nature on a phone ? you didn't think it important enough to have a hard backup on a DVD or USB drive ? or S.S.D ? why would you PAY for a backup service ? that's nuts ! cloud data is just , ugh...

    • @nemtudom5074
      @nemtudom5074 2 года назад +6

      Please tell me you stopped sharing your important files with those data mining pieces of filth
      Backblaze, or someone trustworthy, please

    • @demofighter
      @demofighter 2 года назад +15

      @@psycronizer I was completely new to any sort of data that was precious enough to back up, it just wasn't important for any reason yet. My wife also took all the pictures with her phone, and I didn't consider what was at stake because I had a digital camera before that and always had to make backups by putting them on my PC, and sharing them via USB sticks. Why would I back up crappy phone pictures was probably my reasoning.

    • @psycronizer
      @psycronizer 2 года назад +1

      @@demofighter fair enough, everyone starts somewhere, but a backup service? Maybe someone as time poor as Linus but....

    • @demofighter
      @demofighter 2 года назад +1

      @@psycronizer it's basically just Dropbox. And it's just for the mission critical stuff. Everything could be destroyed tomorrow in a fire and I wouldn't be heartbroken.

  • @chevyspeed6368
    @chevyspeed6368 2 года назад +1

    Need to see more of these 2 together. Great chemistry between the two.

  • @OrenjiArms
    @OrenjiArms Год назад

    one of the best things to come out of quarantine was linus growing out a beard, its crazy just how much better he looks with it, even with all of his quirks its still so much easier to take him seriously and he definitely gives off a more chill vibe now

  • @zerokun2655
    @zerokun2655 2 года назад +88

    Lol, i cried when i almost(i was able to recover them) lost 10GB of photos i didn't backup and these guys have tens of terabytes of stuff and some of them don't even do backups.
    I feel less bad about my bad backups habit now xD

    • @CALIBA88
      @CALIBA88 2 года назад +4

      thats a quite small pronfolder

    • @michaelf.2449
      @michaelf.2449 2 года назад +7

      At this point it's almost incompetent because they've lost work related data TWICE and both times were support serious and still no backups

    • @zerokun2655
      @zerokun2655 2 года назад +5

      @@michaelf.2449 yes it is lol

    • @zerokun2655
      @zerokun2655 2 года назад +3

      @@CALIBA88 do you mean i have few photos? Well mostly they are really low quality old photos but they are memories, besides the smaller the better.. all of my backups(dot files from linux, game files, documents, code, photos) is about 28GB

    • @MTGeomancer
      @MTGeomancer 2 года назад +5

      They're beating around the bush a lot because they're on camera, but a lot of that storage is ripped movies ... of questionable legality. Whenever someone says Plex, that's what they're talking about.

  • @neomaster341
    @neomaster341 2 года назад +5

    Yeah, I do the 3-2-1 strategy:
    3 decades of precious memories and irreplaceable files
    2 TB Seagate drive from 2011 that stores everything
    1 week spent crying when it dies

  • @NavyDood21
    @NavyDood21 2 года назад

    Really looking forward to more vids with Dan. His humor is awesome.

  • @HardWhereHero
    @HardWhereHero 2 года назад +2

    I'm so glad to see someone still playing Sega Saturn's guardian heroes! The 6 player arena mode is insane on that game especially if you can get 6 people playing it at once! That low key looks just the game room in our basement with all the consoles and wires.

  • @iris4547
    @iris4547 2 года назад +4

    thank you this video was the kick i needed to finally go through my nas (which is 9 years old now so the hard drives are living on borrowed time) and finally track down the last few things i dont have extra copies of elsewhere and finally get them backed up to the cloud.
    unless ive missed something i should now be safe in the event both my nas and pc were to suddenly die at the same time.

  • @zacks4186
    @zacks4186 2 года назад +38

    Dan is great. We need more Dan

  • @barongerhardt
    @barongerhardt 2 года назад +1

    As someone that once backed up to cd and dvd for personal and professional backups. At my worst I had rows of spindles of disks. I maybe had 10k worth of dvds (single layer). We were just starting to move over to bluray when the business direction changed and it wasn't needed as much.
    As for what, we produced several CE devices that would get new OS images built once, or more, a week (per device) to be made available for manufacturing and/or installer updates. Any image I made I kept two copies of. Old versions were rarely looked at, but it did happen and was very useful when an issue was reported in the field to replicate and debug.
    The other major data source we had was video. We made a lot of digital video and original 3d animations. Cinema 4d and Maya projects could take days to render. The resulting size of raw or intermediate codexes was crazy. Once a project was done, we would rip the high quality footage off to data dvd and we might keep the compressed (encoded) versions on the SAN. Here it was a little more common to reuse old work. New projects with an old customer or even just reusing an old 3d model or render job would come up.

  • @MeriaDuck
    @MeriaDuck 2 года назад +1

    I had data in a striped setup (mainly photos, irregularly backed up to NAS), linux filesystem. After a few years I found quite a lot of stuff in /lost+found one day... that was a scary reminder that it was a close call saving that data. Amongst the data I almost lost was the first moment my oldest kid saw the younger sibling.
    That data is now backed up off-site in a data center where I rent a vps plus storage.

  • @codygibson2809
    @codygibson2809 2 года назад +77

    Being a member of r/datahoarder I don’t think I’ve ever clicked on a LMG video faster

    • @ALZlper
      @ALZlper 2 года назад

      How much you got? 😆

    • @Smitty_Werbenjagermanjenson
      @Smitty_Werbenjagermanjenson 2 года назад +1

      These guys are rookies by comparison

    • @rudysal1429
      @rudysal1429 2 года назад

      I'm a noob in the data hoarder space but I don't have 1k to spend on bigger drives. Barely have a raidz2 with 6x 4tb drives. Want to go to 14tb drives though

    • @Iceman259
      @Iceman259 2 года назад

      My man

    • @andrewt.5567
      @andrewt.5567 2 года назад

      Then went "Pfffff...."

  • @AzziesPersonalRecordings
    @AzziesPersonalRecordings 2 года назад +7

    I wish I could afford just a few drives for backups like this. Excellent video and backup planning.

  • @MarriedWithBackpacks
    @MarriedWithBackpacks 2 года назад +1

    Wow loving these videos with Dan! What a funny dude!

  • @BobSentell
    @BobSentell 2 года назад +9

    I'm with Linus. Since I got out of doing video editing, there is almost no reason to keep data locally to my computer. Even when I take pictures on the good camera, I always import directly to my OneDrive folder so it syncs automatically to the cloud. With the exception of a few documents that are also in that folder for immediate back-up, I keep nothing locally. My SSD on my laptop is almost exclusively apps and games.

  • @patrykbubela
    @patrykbubela 2 года назад +10

    easily one of the best videos lately, love to see more server and networking content. Congrats Jake!

  • @ImmuneToKnives
    @ImmuneToKnives 2 года назад +5

    Mark would be able to relate to my dad. He has a basement will with VHS Tapes. Filled with weddings, family footage, local events and so on. I would say 25 years worth of footage (he loved recording on his 2/3" shoulder camera). He retired a while back so he's slowly converting his footage into digital...

    • @BushidoBrownSama
      @BushidoBrownSama 2 года назад

      Well atleast it's all SD & probably composite at that

  • @indujain1424
    @indujain1424 2 года назад

    Linus Tech Tips your videos of storage and data is always very interesting.

  • @Madivnar
    @Madivnar 2 года назад +1

    Two of them are a great host combo! more plz

  • @Alpakka91
    @Alpakka91 2 года назад +5

    One of my hd's had a hard loss of partition data. It was so hard, that it thought it had no space, and the data was of RAW value.
    Really fun to rebuild, if you have HDD, but unfortunately I had an SSD.
    I got all the space back, but most of the data was gone, so I had to format the whole disk. Lost all my Wallpapers, Music I had ripped of my own cd's since 2013, some home movies and photos.
    Now I'm glad for DropBox, OneDrive and such, for they keep my precious memories incase I lose the hard copies.
    I had made some backups earlier, but still some things that can never be restored, were lost.

  • @cortesacrawford
    @cortesacrawford 2 года назад +6

    Yo shoutout for Dan for being an amazing host. After 2 videos he's already one of my favorite to see on camera.

  • @kentonschroer2347
    @kentonschroer2347 2 года назад

    Great episode guys, this was awesome.

  • @NateWheeler1
    @NateWheeler1 2 года назад

    Great video, guys!! Jake and Dan are a fantastic duo!

  • @Morpheus-em1el
    @Morpheus-em1el 2 года назад +5

    @Linus I can absolutely feel your need to backup Family photos. That's actually the most critical data i backup. I use my Nas/unRAID PC at home, 1Tb of onedrive storage and Photobooks. I would definitely cry if I'd loose it.
    BTW I really like this style of video! You guys are really great!

  • @ninja829
    @ninja829 2 года назад +3

    Totally cool with seeing more Dan/Jake combo videos they work great together.

  • @XDM_Studios
    @XDM_Studios 2 года назад

    Backup is VERY important! I had a total loss one day with no backup and that was 7 years ago. It was in recoverable and un replicatable data and I had no way of getting it again. It STILL to this day haunts me. So now I have redundant backups of backup drives (4tbx2) and a encrypted container that uploads to the cloud monthly.

  • @TurtleSauceGaming
    @TurtleSauceGaming 2 года назад +3

    I'm up to 69tb of storage between 2 pcs. My oldest 10tb on my server PC has been replaced with a proper 16tb wd gold (giving me more space as well) and the 10tb external it replaced now sits as a backup. I've lost a 3tb drive, and 2 1tb drives in the past for that plex server pc. It was rough.

  • @HyperLethalNova
    @HyperLethalNova 2 года назад +41

    Lmao I always feel like no amount of storage will ever be enough...

  • @whitestar618
    @whitestar618 2 года назад +6

    I could listen to Dan and Anthony pontificate on things all day! Smooth voices for the internet!

  • @ragavansuresh5035
    @ragavansuresh5035 2 года назад +1

    I love that Dan packages the straight man and the funny man in one. More of him please, I live for that dry wit.

  • @p.k.953
    @p.k.953 2 года назад +1

    I was waiting for this video since my whole life 😭👍🔥

  • @cordite7207
    @cordite7207 2 года назад +5

    Not working in visual media or recording my gaming these numbers are mind boggling. Im so glad I dont need that kinda storage

  • @bfvader
    @bfvader 2 года назад +5

    Drobo isn't Mac-specific, they're a DAS device provider that have been around for years. They were popular in the wedding industry for a while until people realized how slow, proprietary, and unstable they are.

  • @server642
    @server642 2 года назад +1

    11:03 one of the first colour tv engineers; /engineer/ engineer making new ones or as a repair tech per his background? Either way, that’s a pretty cool thing to be muttered under one’s breath but not circled back to!

  • @theauthenticsteve
    @theauthenticsteve 2 года назад +2

    As a typical person with terrible backup practices, I did actually have an issue with a dead HDD with all our family photos and important data on it and no backup and Acronis came to my rescue. In my case I was able to freeze my HDD which gave me a small amount of time to copy the data using Acronis, unfortunately there was some regrettable loss due to corrupted files but Acronis saved us from an absolute loss. And now I feel terrible because my current backups are out of date and about the same as LMG staff in this video.

  • @slowfudgeballs9517
    @slowfudgeballs9517 2 года назад +21

    The video we've all been waiting to for. Who's really the biggest tech nerd of them all?

  • @bierba
    @bierba 2 года назад +3

    5:59 ouch that hurt my ears

  • @piggypoo
    @piggypoo Год назад +1

    15:53
    "That's nice!"
    "That's bad!"
    **glances at Jake waiting for the reaction

  • @obewanjacobi
    @obewanjacobi 2 года назад

    For offsite backup i find aws glacier to be a great and cheap option. Synology nas has a package that can make that backup very easy as well

  • @sherlockmaverick
    @sherlockmaverick 2 года назад +8

    I loved the "He's not storing Linux ISOs" reference

  • @goshtic9565
    @goshtic9565 2 года назад +21

    I'm at 130TB (116TB used, 14TB free) and easily expected Linus to beat this (vs his personal storage, not his business), a little surprised he didn't. Though, if he wanted to, he can easily do it obviously. However, didn't expect Mark to blow it out of the competition with his combination of storages. All my CD storages is dead. I used to horde on CD solutions in the late 1990s. But never reached over 1000, but I would say I was getting there. Since I regularly purchases 100pks. Though, filesize content back then weren't as bloated compared to today. Images were 5kb to high quality 250kb and not 5mb to 25mb of today on average (of course can be even much bigger).

  • @Peter12029
    @Peter12029 11 месяцев назад

    I used to have a mixed match of different sized hard drives finally consolidated into two 16 TB one as a copy. I also backed up my CDs VHS and two large boxes of family photos using Epson FastFoto FF-680W.

  • @icexiro
    @icexiro 2 года назад

    I've took like weeks to fix my data hoarding, i've managed to get it down to 1tb ish, when doing backups, all the unused space is trimmed and stored on tapes :) it's a beauty, it's full redundant backup, but not offsite, that will come at a certain point in my life

  • @larry365
    @larry365 2 года назад +20

    LMG should offer a backup solution for all its staff. Would make a very good sponsored video.

    • @3nertia
      @3nertia 2 года назад

      That would be a good usage of a sponsor, in my opinion

    • @redangel745
      @redangel745 2 года назад

      This would take petabytes of storage, major cost for what?

    • @larry365
      @larry365 2 года назад

      @@redangel745 Doesn't have to be unlimited storage does it? I'm assuming the majority if not all of the cost would be covered by LMGs biz model but I'd be interested why this particular project would be an exception. Reasons vary from simply for a video to an actual decent backup solution for LMG staff members.

  • @sturdybutter
    @sturdybutter 2 года назад +8

    Really like Daniel as a host! He does a great job.

  • @ConfusedRaccoon
    @ConfusedRaccoon 2 года назад +1

    We have less than 1 mbps upload speed and Back Blaze actually got in touch to say "it's not feasible for you to use our service, here's a refund." After my Mother-in-law spent over a year trying to back up all her photography stuff. I don't know how much it is but it only ever got to about 40% done.

  • @timothyrichens-gray1751
    @timothyrichens-gray1751 2 года назад

    YAAAAAAAY So pleased to be seeing more Dan!

  • @Nadiv555
    @Nadiv555 2 года назад +3

    Loving dan in the recent videos!

  • @SubtractZero
    @SubtractZero 2 года назад +20

    The amount of value people put into 1,000's of photos they'll never look at or use again is astonishing.

    • @_VortexLord_
      @_VortexLord_ Год назад

      I've literally deleted everything, I only have steam games on my PC cause as great as the memories are, I literally look at my photos once, and it's after the vacation lol

    • @jubies6286
      @jubies6286 Год назад

      You may leave them untouched for years or even decades, just taking up space from one drive to the next. But when you're old, you'll be glad you saved them.

  • @Manu__R
    @Manu__R 2 года назад

    A good cheap backup solution I use is Backblaze B2 with Duplicati, great as a failsafe if the whole house blows up or whatever.

  • @nickroberson2780
    @nickroberson2780 2 года назад

    Jake, if you are reading this, a chassis I can recommend for the double digit drive counts is the supermicro 836 family since it can handle 16 drives and they can be JBOD or RAID depending on your HBA or PCIe add-in card and you can have a full blown server for unraid with VM's and stuff, it is what I am building my storage server in

    • @Sir-Blaze
      @Sir-Blaze Год назад

      omg wow bro you won gg