How Altering Shigure Changed EVERYTHING | Fruits Basket | BriThi

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  • Опубликовано: 5 мар 2020
  • If you haven't seen the original and the remake of Fruits Basket then you know how truly different these two versions are. A big part that affected this changed was the personality shift of Shigure Sohma. I want to explain to you how this change altered everything!
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  • @BriThi
    @BriThi  4 года назад +104

    If you enjoyed this video then I highly recommend you check out another in depth analysis like this except on Kyo's two FATHERS! Thanks for checking this out :)
    ruclips.net/video/DpDvGhLc964/видео.html

  • @kimberly472
    @kimberly472 4 года назад +4923

    “Is he lying to them or telling the truth?”
    Yes.

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  4 года назад +117

      So vague you are haha. Thanks for commenting Kimberly :)

    • @SakiBlablabla
      @SakiBlablabla 4 года назад +34

      Yes indeed 😂

    • @PianoGirl091
      @PianoGirl091 4 года назад +129

      LOL. As someone who has read the manga twice, I can say that this comment is absolutely, 100 percent accurate. 😂

    • @jewelweed6880
      @jewelweed6880 4 года назад +2

      Hey, it's Kosh! Succinct as always.

    • @TygrasKittenKori
      @TygrasKittenKori 4 года назад +4

      i'd say a mixture of both!

  • @KoiPuff
    @KoiPuff 4 года назад +3643

    “Who’s side is he really on?” The answer is Shigure. He will always put himself first because he’s selfish and greedy, he admits as much to Hatori. But the flip side is that if he feels like your absence would hurt him he’ll fight tooth and nail for you.

    • @frozenfire3428
      @frozenfire3428 4 года назад +107

      Wrong he's not selfish he's doing it to break all the curses and make everyone happy

    • @toastied
      @toastied 4 года назад +51

      @@frozenfire3428 dont spoil?????

    • @itsamaniarts
      @itsamaniarts 4 года назад +223

      I actually disagree. I haven't watched the new adaptation but in the manga though he does have a different side to him he's kind of selfless in a selfish sort of way? This is just my opinion and i'm not trying to spoil!!! However, Shigure is not putting himself first, he's trying to teach someone else something and is in some warped way putting them first. But I do agree that he will fight tooth and nail for that goal/ person. Shigure is an amazing character with so much depth and even though his story was very much hidden between the lines it's so sad, but sweet! He's not a character that would destroy other peoples lives to get what he wants though. He uses them sure, but it's partly for their benefit and his own.
      That's just my opinion tho.

    • @frozenfire3428
      @frozenfire3428 4 года назад +5

      @@itsamaniarts ok thanks I just like shigure and I believe he's doing some good.

    • @frozenfire3428
      @frozenfire3428 4 года назад +3

      @@toastied sorry I couldn't help it I like shigure so much so yeah.

  • @squiddy3382
    @squiddy3382 4 года назад +2891

    he is so much scarier in the remake!

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  4 года назад +269

      He really is! It kind of shocked me honestly.

    • @Moonlightchant
      @Moonlightchant 4 года назад +344

      Not only in the remake, he's like that on the original source a.k.a THE MANGA

    • @Skedadlee
      @Skedadlee 4 года назад +266

      As he should be! Hes quite a complex character in the manga

    • @s2sHoXXs2
      @s2sHoXXs2 4 года назад +212

      @@Moonlightchant I remember him being pretty silly in the beginning though, and then as you read more it became more apparent that he was hiding things. In fact, the tone of the manga starting out changed overtime iirc.

    • @Tia-Marie
      @Tia-Marie 4 года назад +22

      I thought I recalled Akito becoming mildly personable eventually

  • @Flummoxyn
    @Flummoxyn 4 года назад +1705

    Shigure is straight up chaotic neutral, he's on the side that interests or benefits himself or his goals

    • @silentshadow3894
      @silentshadow3894 3 года назад +23

      i think he is sort of a cross between chaotic neutral and chaotic good but yeah probably leaning more towards neutral.

    • @skullsquad900
      @skullsquad900 3 года назад +29

      No, he's True Neutral.
      Chaotic, would imply he doesn't put thought into it and randomly decides on a whim...he's obviously playing the worlds longest game.

  • @Jessielynn1516
    @Jessielynn1516 4 года назад +2541

    *Manga Readers Cackling in the Distance*

    • @karmaakabane4419
      @karmaakabane4419 4 года назад +42

      whichwitchdoctor this is making me nervous 😂

    • @Jessielynn1516
      @Jessielynn1516 4 года назад +11

      @@karmaakabane4419 🤐

    • @allura9163
      @allura9163 4 года назад +57

      Karma Akabane *cackling intensifies*

    • @MrConredsX
      @MrConredsX 4 года назад +18

      Is Akito a man or a woman?

    • @TheNyleve16
      @TheNyleve16 4 года назад +31

      @@MrConredsX No spoilers! 😂

  • @infinitekurosoul
    @infinitekurosoul 4 года назад +1788

    Oh ho ho, as someone who's read the manga, it's so entertaining to watch people trying to scramble for answers. It truly is a mysterious and twisting journey. Seeing other people experience it for the first time is bringing back all the feelings I had when I first read it. I'm sure you'll be as captivated as I was!

    • @rosielavenders
      @rosielavenders 4 года назад +31

      Same here, but still I cry at all the sad moments because I'm a huge softy.

    • @infinitekurosoul
      @infinitekurosoul 4 года назад +26

      @@rosielavenders Oh same. No matter how many times I see/read it I will never be emotionally prepared enough NOT to cry. This story will bust my heart open every time.

    • @elysosome2570
      @elysosome2570 4 года назад +11

      I remember I tried watching the 2019 anime, but I just couldn’t without finishing the manga. So the next day I sped through that story like my life depended on it. It was worth it.

    • @infinitekurosoul
      @infinitekurosoul 4 года назад +9

      @@elysosome2570 Lmao now that's dedication. I hope the anime does it justice, now that we're finally getting the later part of the manga on screen

    • @rosielavenders
      @rosielavenders 4 года назад

      @@elysosome2570 *clap clap*

  • @jayistrying4558
    @jayistrying4558 4 года назад +1400

    As a manga reader who read this and currently the spin off... Prepare your tissues for tears of sadness, frustration and anger.

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  4 года назад +88

      Oh no oh no. Everybody says that and I am just not ready T T

    • @OdyLoveMusic
      @OdyLoveMusic 4 года назад +22

      Really? then I should probably just watch S2 after all the episodes are out....
      i can't take it if i have to wait every week for an episode just to cry or to feel angry...

    • @jayistrying4558
      @jayistrying4558 4 года назад +24

      @@OdyLoveMusic I'm actually hoping they bring the same intensity of emotions in the manga to this production. But with the cast from manga about to appear in season 2, it looks pretty promising.
      Also, they are fleshing out the characters better than in the 2000s version, so things will start to make more sense.

    • @OdyLoveMusic
      @OdyLoveMusic 4 года назад +1

      @@jayistrying4558 guess i'll prepare cloth to wipe my tears... :')

    • @saphexteni
      @saphexteni 4 года назад +5

      As well as tears of happiness and laughter :) It's truly a roller coaster of emotions.

  • @rosepalitsky5812
    @rosepalitsky5812 4 года назад +756

    The reason why this version of Fruits Basket is so much more complicated and mysterious and leaves us questioning and earning for answers is because this version is totally based on the manga. Fruits Basket is so much more than what is seems from outside and it teaches us so many things. I am waiting for 2nd season to come out soon!!

    • @ashleypark18
      @ashleypark18 4 года назад +2

      anupama nath same

    • @DJDancin4theheart
      @DJDancin4theheart 4 года назад +22

      Also because the production team knows where the story ends. The big *story* difference between the new and old is because the old production team didn’t know the truth. At the time of the original the manga artist had broken her arm, hadn’t drawn anything past the visit to Ayame’s shop and didn’t know when she’d be able to draw again.

  • @torillama4275
    @torillama4275 4 года назад +258

    “Subplot”? Honey he’s the entire story

  • @fuckbored4724
    @fuckbored4724 3 года назад +77

    Shigure is low key the driving force behind the whole story of Fruits basket.

  • @milkychu8869
    @milkychu8869 4 года назад +604

    Saguna went from ‘sir I lost you daughter’ to ‘your daughter calls me daddy’-

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  4 года назад +36

      This comment made me laugh haha. Good one XD

    • @milkychu8869
      @milkychu8869 4 года назад +4

      BriThi ofc I try my best 😩✊

    • @izzydarosa1953
      @izzydarosa1953 4 года назад +17

      Milky Chu bow I just read that as “daughter, I lost you sir” and “your daddy calls me daughter” lol whyyyy brain

    • @milkychu8869
      @milkychu8869 4 года назад +2

      Scarlett this comment made me cackle like the witch I am-

  • @moniqueroman7704
    @moniqueroman7704 4 года назад +2397

    *Me smiling like a Chesire Cat when people are watching this blind without having read the source material*
    You have no idea what you're in for ^^

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  4 года назад +69

      Oh no Monique don't do this to me. I'm not ready T T. Thanks for commenting !

    • @sed9385
      @sed9385 4 года назад +42

      Ahahahahaha say hello to my _anime only but spoiled as hell ass_ 🤣

    • @ariapeachy0_08
      @ariapeachy0_08 4 года назад +22

      Oof these guys are in for a ride...

    • @BeanieO
      @BeanieO 4 года назад +5

      Same! Lol

    • @lmsandoval95
      @lmsandoval95 4 года назад +25

      For real 😂 this whole video got me 😬 cuz i know whats gonna happen!!!

  • @Zer0_ooo
    @Zer0_ooo 4 года назад +636

    That feeling when you are a manga reader but you only have the first half, lol.
    Shigure was definitely my favorite in the 2001 version, but when I read the manga/saw the remake... I fell the hell in love. That's my man, flipping the series on its head! I'm really happy that you talked about it and that you're excited about Shigure's new layers. And you also made really good points about Akito, too. The original really left too many mysteries with him in my opinion. Mysterious is good, but a character needs roots and reasons to be how they are. Anyways. Big fan. Of your channel and Shigure.
    Loyal viewer, signing off.

    • @drakenfist
      @drakenfist 4 года назад +16

      Shigure in the original just had me confused. He was really silly, but the worst part was at the end when he broke down crying in front of Tohru and it made no sense, then when she comes back with Kyo, he starts laughing hysterically. Its like he went mad or something.

    • @Zer0_ooo
      @Zer0_ooo 4 года назад +5

      @@drakenfist I enjoyed all of his gags and stuff so much. Also, I really love dogs. But also? I don't remember exactly how old I was when I saw it, ha. But... New Shigure? Brilliant. Love. Him.

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  4 года назад +7

      I'm glad you enjoyed it!! I remember you actually asking about this video and I was thinking you would enjoy it haha. But I AM SO EXCITED TO FINALLY LEARN MORE ABOUT THIS GUY AHHHHH. Season 2 just a few weeks away!!

    • @Zer0_ooo
      @Zer0_ooo 4 года назад +1

      @@BriThi I am literally SO ready. I'm glad your channel is here to make the wait more bearable.

    • @psionichelmsman
      @psionichelmsman 4 года назад +5

      As a note, Akito's gender is a secret for a reason. Keep an open mind to what their gender might be! It might be a different reveal. Akito's a terrible person, but they're not a monster. There's reasons as to why Akito is the way they are, same with everyone else in the cast. Each of them have suffered trauma and abuse in different ways. This is very much more apparent in the TMS/8PAN version than the Studio DEEN version. Each of them contend with the pain of tragedy, mistreatment and abuse in very different ways-and our lovely Tohru's positive and gentle nature, as well as not being a part of the tragedies of that family provides the compassion and understanding that family needs.
      Part of why the 2001 anime veered off track is that it passed up where the manga was at the time, which only finished in 2012. The TMS/8PAN version has a full, finished story to work with and draw from where the DEEN version did not.
      As for being an anime-only person... I think Shigure knows exactly what Akito's deal is and wants to set Akito free from a self-imposed prison of trauma and pushing everyone away. Akito's clearly not mentally stable and doesn't understand how to empathize with the plights of others at this point in time.

  • @larainethorpe2847
    @larainethorpe2847 4 года назад +696

    I know what is up with Akito and shigure and I can't wait for all the anime only fans to see it. You will not be expecting this

    • @jackmaul5668
      @jackmaul5668 4 года назад +21

      I am very tempted to make a mother joke but.
      For once.
      I will refrain for the sake of keeping RUclips

    • @DeathnoteBB
      @DeathnoteBB 4 года назад +43

      Laraine Thorpe It’s wild to me that people haven’t seen the manga. This is maybe the only manga I ever read all the way through and also own. I saw some of the 2001 anime but I don’t think I ever saw all the episodes, it was so different lol

    • @chevaliedelareverie
      @chevaliedelareverie 4 года назад +36

      I grew up with the manga (disliked the first anime), and am loving the remake! But the best part is seeing my husband's reactions to the mystery and surprises as the story progresses! (and the soft parts get him in the heart, too!)

    • @anonymousfellow8879
      @anonymousfellow8879 4 года назад +5

      Oh I know what’s up with Akito (manga reader), but Shigure’s Character is...A Lot Of Hot Air.

    • @noemiepace9020
      @noemiepace9020 4 года назад +6

      They don't know what's coming towards them haha

  • @kisara16
    @kisara16 4 года назад +301

    Something I don't understand is Shigure and Hatori's hair color. I thought it would also be the color of their animal but it's not.

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  4 года назад +49

      You know Emily I never really thought of that huh. That is kind of strange lol. Good eye thou!

    • @IsuzusanH6
      @IsuzusanH6 4 года назад +60

      For Hatori I think it can be explained by the fact his animal doesn't have fur. As for Shigure, his hair has always been a mystery to me (especially when I tried to draw him) x)... But I guess it's quite close to the fur color of the Dog. A very dark gray

    • @kisara16
      @kisara16 4 года назад +5

      @@IsuzusanH6 oh yeah seahorses that's true! Thanks

    • @erwanasuzumiya6347
      @erwanasuzumiya6347 4 года назад +7

      @@IsuzusanH6 yes but ayame doesn't have fur either and his hair are white. Either it's a sign of (spoiler)
      The curse weakening
      Or it's just that the dragon was dark

    • @IsuzusanH6
      @IsuzusanH6 4 года назад

      @@erwanasuzumiya6347 ah yeah, that's true, I didn't think about Ayame!

  • @tigerprincevincey
    @tigerprincevincey 4 года назад +193

    “Just like an onion” oh my god shigure is shrek...

    • @laurapastor1822
      @laurapastor1822 4 года назад

      @yangirekun thats what I thought too!! Lol

    • @okiku6007
      @okiku6007 4 года назад

      same

    • @imhere4sake525
      @imhere4sake525 4 года назад +1

      This! Exactly the comment I was looking for!

    • @PichuElric
      @PichuElric 3 года назад

      Wtf lmaoooo both their names start with "Sh" too

  • @itsamaniarts
    @itsamaniarts 4 года назад +131

    "Is he lying or telling the truth?" No
    "Who's side is he on?" Yes
    I really wanna spoil since i've read the manga sooooo many times and was born with the show, grew up with the lessons and loved each story. Each time I get older I appreciate the messages more, and I don't wanna rip that away so I'm not gonna do dat.
    Enjoy the show guys, I can't bring myself to watch it DX
    Y'all are in for a ride. Bring the tissues, and the eye drops ;-;

    • @Bee-cz6xi
      @Bee-cz6xi 4 года назад +4

      Please I wanna know who's side Shigure is on

    • @cleoblue1001
      @cleoblue1001 4 года назад

      Same please tell us

    • @itsamaniarts
      @itsamaniarts 4 года назад +1

      @@Bee-cz6xi he's on his own side. He's kind of on both sides since he wants the best for everyone.
      ...especially Akito. But that's a spoiler for another time.

    • @itsamaniarts
      @itsamaniarts 4 года назад +1

      @@cleoblue1001 he's on his own side, he wants the best for everyone. But literally Shigure is the beeeeest. One of the most underated characters in my opinion.

    • @julycat2650
      @julycat2650 4 года назад

      I recommend you to watch it though.
      The second season is only updated till ep 12, but the storyline really fascinating.
      Highly recommended anime for anyone who want some drama, fantasy, slice of life and psychological.

  • @jackmaul5668
    @jackmaul5668 4 года назад +321

    You: I'm fascinated about the Shigure and akito relationship
    Me, manga reader: ahahha ahahahha AHHAAHA YES. Yes.
    (I am very fascinated by them too, believe me. :'))

    • @claireisabella7186
      @claireisabella7186 4 года назад

      Schnuffel NawNom current mood

    • @aoaoli
      @aoaoli 4 года назад

      Mood

    • @zahara5472
      @zahara5472 4 года назад

      Schnuffel NawNom lmao SAMEEE

    • @vawexa123
      @vawexa123 3 года назад +4

      I usually love characters with dark motivations but shigure... damn I hate him

    • @kirikake5414
      @kirikake5414 3 года назад +9

      Same. I was like, TF? Like really? Gure is probably the most twisted and screwed character in the whole series. And unlike everyone else, he doesn't change at ALL.

  • @marcelm103
    @marcelm103 4 года назад +362

    So can't wait for Season 2, this year has me excited for a few things. 2020 is going to be great for anime fans.

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  4 года назад +9

      Only a few more weeks to go!! I cannot wait ahhh. Thanks for commenting ^^

    • @sarahs922
      @sarahs922 4 года назад +4

      :( re:zero season 2 got delayed

    • @JessycaLunawoona
      @JessycaLunawoona 4 года назад +3

      @Karma Akabane
      The event where they were gonna be featuring the first episodes of season 2 in theaters was cancelled.
      But season 2 itself wasn’t delayed. It’s still premiering April 6th.

    • @sarahs922
      @sarahs922 4 года назад

      Oh thanks :)

  • @previoustimtamthenusedtobe744
    @previoustimtamthenusedtobe744 4 года назад +81

    An easy away to put it is that Shigure's side has always been Shigure. He does care about others but his number one side is himself

    • @JustAPrayer
      @JustAPrayer 2 года назад +8

      Yes and yet ironically his actions do benefit others in the long run. He takes Yuki in and gets him out of that house and away from his abuse when no one else would. He gives Kyo advice on how to deal with his anger which tremendously helps Kyo in forming relationships with the others including Tohru. He facilities Tohru’s meeting with Kureno and gives her plenty of clues about the curse. He calls out Akito every time they interact on how bad her behavior is, although just like everyone else he can’t do much to stop it, Akito is still his God after all. He’s also the first and for a long time, only character to question Akito on whether locking Kyo up is the right thing to do. Remember all of the Sohma’s just accept his eventual imprisonment as inevitable for most of the story (which makes Kyo’s anger and inability to get along with the others a lot more understandable).

  • @kayb933
    @kayb933 4 года назад +39

    I find it funny how people who've only seen the anime consider him 'altered'. He starts out as a sleazy idiot in the manga, too (though I love him; I love all the characters), and watching his rather speedy escalation into a lying, self-centered, self-aware-of-his-self-centeredness, sleazy not-so-idiot was one of the best background parts of the manga. I'm so happy that all this important detail is in the new anime!!

  • @itsmangobean
    @itsmangobean 3 года назад +34

    in conclusion ; the existence of their relationship is the root of this series lmao

  • @lapislazuli06
    @lapislazuli06 4 года назад +104

    Trust me, season 2 will be really good!

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  4 года назад +3

      Ahhh can’t wait! Thanks for commenting Haru :)

  • @lacabraasada2326
    @lacabraasada2326 3 года назад +7

    "Does your dog bite?"
    "No, but it can hurt you in other ways"

  • @theultimateusukfan
    @theultimateusukfan 4 года назад +133

    i am VERY excited and happy with the remake shigure. manga shigure/remake shigure is the best. the dark sides to his character is amazing and i get a smile whenever dark shigure makes an appearance in the remake anime lol

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  4 года назад +3

      Oh my gosh same! I can't wait to see more of him in season 2 hopefully! Thank you for your support! I very much appreciate it ^^

    • @theultimateusukfan
      @theultimateusukfan 4 года назад +1

      @@BriThi i subbed because of the fruits basket content! love ur videos so far

  • @Kyurengo
    @Kyurengo 4 года назад +205

    Well, both Akito and Shigure are completely different characters in the original than the current one, and more based on the manga, because it happened the same as Full Metal Alchemist (the story hadn´t developed enough to know who they were in truth).
    The only thing I can say that itsn´t a spoiler is that Shigure is THE dog, a very determinated one.
    I think that Shigure's wish is the key factor to this story (something that we'll know in the third season, because I don't think one season is enough for all that's left... We've only reached the 6th-7th volume, and it has 23)
    I like both Shigure, the comical one gave his support to the MC, and the real one gives the story the push it needed.
    (Momiji is still my favourite one)

    • @valerienavarrete1907
      @valerienavarrete1907 4 года назад +7

      Momiji's story still gives me complex feels 😖 but yeah, he's definitely a favorite.

    • @Kyurengo
      @Kyurengo 4 года назад +2

      @@valerienavarrete1907 Just wait to know all of his story. You can't help but love him afterwards

    • @valerienavarrete1907
      @valerienavarrete1907 4 года назад +3

      @@Kyurengo I wish I could unknow it because the first time I read through fruits basket, at Momiji's parts, I kept crying 😭. As a then teen, fruits basket destroyed my emotional control.

    • @Kyurengo
      @Kyurengo 4 года назад +5

      @@valerienavarrete1907 Right? You can't read Furuba without tissues close. And I still think that Momiji has the worst story yet the best way to deal with it (Kyo and Rin also have bad ones but they don't deal with them in a healthy way). He 's so strong!

    • @valerienavarrete1907
      @valerienavarrete1907 4 года назад +4

      @@Kyurengo Yes, this! Exactly this! Momiji as a character should have had a more extensive story, especially at the end.

  • @amatullahm2384
    @amatullahm2384 4 года назад +124

    Honestly, i love both versions. 2001 ver braught this story to me. But i must admit, the 2019 version is doing a spectacular job at portraying the story of the manga. I think the only problem with the manga is that the truth of the curse is revealed quite ambiguously. So while some people understood it, many didn't (though im greatful i finally understood it AFTER ready it 3 times, definitely not on my first read). The 2019 anime is actually adding a lot of foreshadowing alongsite certain parts of their dialogue that parallel certain aspects of the curse to make it easier to pick up on later on (though im not gonna spoil that).

    • @violetstarlight5561
      @violetstarlight5561 4 года назад +3

      Amatullah M I get the feeling we getting a season 3. It won’t unravel soon. It’s a whole lot.

    • @nuclearseahorse
      @nuclearseahorse 4 года назад

      @@violetstarlight5561 did season 2 come out already? My friend stopped paying for crunchyroll so i havent checked it out yet (not watching no ads, you kidding me?)

    • @joellavanbatenburg3289
      @joellavanbatenburg3289 4 года назад

      uwu boi It will air at the 6th of April!

  • @cerooscuas
    @cerooscuas 4 года назад +59

    Him laughing at thohru in her tent in ep 1 made me laugh so hard it got me to watch ep 2 and after that i was hooked hahah also 1000% shes going to end up with the cat dude there is genuine development for that at the end of season 1 it became pretty apparent

  • @starrybun
    @starrybun 4 года назад +31

    Fruits Basket is the one manga series that I've kept for years, since I was a teenager. I'm so excited for this remake. People who are new to the series have No Idea what's in store!

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  4 года назад

      I am so excited for season 2! It's going to be so good :)

    • @JenJenTokyo
      @JenJenTokyo 4 года назад

      They have to read the manga. But some people they watch the anime but not read the manga none at all.

  • @agentofagents640
    @agentofagents640 4 года назад +18

    Shigure 2001: obnoxious pervy author outside and inside
    New Shigure: obnoxious pervy author outside but a mysterious inside
    i like that change because they could finally tidy fruits basket up and put it on its path to the climax and the original was kinda just cute and all over the place

  • @Chewi_
    @Chewi_ 4 года назад +18

    Oh man, I can't wait. The manga was like a bible to me as a teenager lol. I made a notebook with all my favorite qoutes and reread the manga all the time. I watched the OG anime like over 7 times lol. I remember the excitement I felt when the new anime was announced and was said to cover the entire manga! I'm super in love with it, I love the new art style and the new voice actors.

  • @maia_06
    @maia_06 4 года назад +22

    2001 version has my heart..
    but..
    2019 version has my soul.

  • @dogti2959
    @dogti2959 4 года назад +32

    I'm glad you make this video. I see a lot of 2001 fans be sad and angry about the changes in Shigure personality and behavior. Well, that's what he was in the source material, who he always was.
    I liked the firts adaptation when I was younger, but compared with what they did in the remake and what's coming in april and later, it can't compete. It was too comic and after rewatching it, especially the episode when Thoru's best friends come to the house, it's just too much. Gags and gags to make it longer.
    Shigure is a fascinating character in this season : a main one who live and take care of the young ones, but also manipulated everyone around him for one goal who even seem different from Akito's. "You rip what you soar" he say to them, we don't know what he's really thinking as Thoru and Yuki pointed it in the Valentine's day episode. Only Hatori seem to understand what's going, not being his allies 'cause he don't want Thoru and the others to be hurt, but not being his enemy either 'cause making that dream a reality is probaly the only chance for Shigure to find happiness, like the few months he live with Kana himself. They're cursed and no one can truly blame them for wanting what everybody is looking for. I like their relationship 'cause their still friend after all these years and even if Shigure is not really a "good" person. I wish we had more of Ayame and Shigure discussion like that, 'cause the snake know as much as Hatori in that matter 'cause he had the dream too. I hope for it in season 2 and 3.
    Well, that's pretty much all, sorry for the big but Shigure has a real purpose in the story, not just a comic role. Can't wait for season 2, it's like waiting one more month is harder than waiting 1 year. And I'm a manga reader so I know what's coming but it's just... We're finally gonna have the rest of the story in anime !!

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  4 года назад +1

      Thanks for your comment :) it was a good read! Don’t ever feel bad for commenting long post!

  • @princesspikachu3915
    @princesspikachu3915 4 года назад +13

    Shigure is a very complex character in the manga. Oddly enough he IS hinted at having a sinister side in the 2001 anime but it’s never explored as the 2001 anime series adapted a manga that wouldn’t be finished for another 5 years later (manga finished up in 2006). Shigure has a very manipulative personality that does some very terrible things for the good of the others. Shigure isn’t really evil but he knows that he and the other zodiac members are unhappy and suffering and will do anything to end the suffering even if that means causing more suffering initially before relief is achieved (think putting rubbing alcohol on a bleeding sore so that the infection doesn’t get worse. Hurts like hell but you feel better later). I don’t really like Shigure’s character but I see where he is coming from.

  • @crystalr6461
    @crystalr6461 4 года назад +17

    He became my favorite character in 2019 adaptation. He was just so complex. He was super nice but you know that there is something behind all of his actions.

  • @miyahana79
    @miyahana79 4 года назад +18

    I can see he's twisted even in the OG anime, that's why I love him. I guess because it's such a fluffy rom-com, I noticed him more. His dark side is more obvious in the remake.

  • @xWhoLeSoMe
    @xWhoLeSoMe 4 года назад +8

    I really characters like that, Shigure Sohma and Kisuke Uruhara. Funny person but mysterious af!

  • @gabyflores4516
    @gabyflores4516 4 года назад +55

    I feel like a wise man when you ask all these questions that I know the answer to simply cuz I read the manga 😆😅

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  4 года назад

      haha hopefully season 2 answers all my questions >:)

  • @monzerattevereniceleyva1835
    @monzerattevereniceleyva1835 4 года назад +9

    They also showed Kyo and Tohru’s relationship and how they grew to love each other as well!!

  • @Xre99
    @Xre99 4 года назад +12

    Loved this video, I’m getting flashbacks of feeling really bad for shigure’s editor lol.. I’m so excited to see how they’ll expand on the story in season 2! Great video as always!

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  4 года назад +2

      Thanks for your support man as always man ^^

  • @BriThi
    @BriThi  4 года назад +208

    Hey you, yeah you! Thank you for taking the time to comment on this video. You guys really are an amazing community and I am thankful for you all. Have a good one ^^. Also subscribe please :0

    • @Butterflygirl244
      @Butterflygirl244 4 года назад

      I just subscribed ^-^

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  4 года назад +1

      @@Butterflygirl244 You rock! Thank you :)

  • @marquin7672
    @marquin7672 4 года назад +56

    Avoid spoilers at all costs. In my opinion, Shigure is one of the best ________________ in manga history, especially in a shōjo manga. I don't read shōjo nowadays as I have switched to Seinen/Shônen (nowadays, I prefer tragic, suspense, thriller, psychological/mind warfare, battle/action/fighting scenes genre).
    However, I am sticking to Fruits Basket because of the mystery and tragic backstories despite the strong shōjo, romance-comedy undertones...

    • @Trisha_Yuu
      @Trisha_Yuu 4 года назад

      SHHHH! Shigure is NOT AN **********! DX

    • @marquin7672
      @marquin7672 4 года назад

      @@Trisha_Yuu I edited my reply to avoid spoilers :D

    • @Trisha_Yuu
      @Trisha_Yuu 4 года назад

      @@marquin7672 hahaha ok I edited my reply too XD

    • @ragsrare3771
      @ragsrare3771 Год назад

      There are many dark shoujo, but I guess you are the type of people who judge a whole demographic from one manga.
      Hopefully the boring shounen with nake girls never tried you out.

  • @coRynnstar
    @coRynnstar 4 года назад

    Nice! As someone who's read the series and looooves it to pieces, it's always interesting to hear takes from fans who haven't gotten to the parts of the story past the revelation of Kyo's "true form". I enjoyed the video - keep doing what you do!

  • @fadznuzu3341
    @fadznuzu3341 3 года назад +6

    Shigure is a really well written character to say the least

  • @SiymaK
    @SiymaK 4 года назад +36

    Me to people who haven't read the manga: Ooohohohohhh buckle up boiiissss, is gon be a bumpy riidddee

    • @SiymaK
      @SiymaK 4 года назад +1

      @@reebs_113 Ep 7 would be chapter 55 in manga! Enjoy!!!

    • @SiymaK
      @SiymaK 4 года назад +1

      @@reebs_113 i think the anime condenses a few chapters into each episode which is great. The author is very heavily involved with this current anime adaptation and storyline so I think alot of the changes aren't too significant or altering. Also, the manga was written in the 90s, so couple small details would naturally be a little traditional

    • @SiymaK
      @SiymaK 4 года назад +1

      @@reebs_113 LOL YEAH IT BE LIKE THAT. THAT WAS ME TOO. THATS STILL ME

    • @SiymaK
      @SiymaK 4 года назад +1

      @@reebs_113 im so excited to see how everything will play out in the anime, like will there be any major changes or if they'll add some new parts. There is one scene in particular im very curious about cuz the English translation didnt make sense to/sounded too awkward. Its a major scene too but i dont know if itll be in this season

  • @victoriapark1104
    @victoriapark1104 4 года назад +18

    When I watched the old version I never understood that shigure was bad. I thought that hatori was the enemy. With the remade version I only just realized this

    • @Great_Lake_Surfer_
      @Great_Lake_Surfer_ 4 года назад +1

      Wait. He's bad ..? ;-;

    • @victoriapark1104
      @victoriapark1104 4 года назад +3

      Not really he just was very manipulative and gave off a sinister vibe IM NOT SPOILING ANYTHING FOR THE MANGA THO DONT WORRY. The anime comes out like next week.

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  4 года назад +1

      It's actually 2 weeks but yeah thank you for no spoilers :) Also I appreciate you commenting!

    • @SakiBlablabla
      @SakiBlablabla 4 года назад +5

      Basically, without spoiling anything ...He is kind of a Slytherin !

  • @monrque
    @monrque 4 года назад +7

    I knew from the start that Seigure character was more then just a light-hearted individual. I picked up on the subtle signs they were giving. Maybe if you re-watch it now you be able to find more of those subtle hints. I knew he had something going on with the head of the family. I knew his upfront disposition was nothing but an act.

  • @NeonshiAmor
    @NeonshiAmor 4 года назад +8

    I'm a manga reader with a brother whose favorite character is Shigure and my brother can talk for literal HOURS about Shigure's character and his role in the story. He's an incredibly complex character that is SOOO well written

  • @kathrinadc2
    @kathrinadc2 4 года назад +5

    i really enjoy your analysis of canon!shigure and aaa i cant wait for you to watch season 3 since that's where akito and shigure's relationship will be explored! (it's too far huhu) everyone is so hyped for s2 and i cant wait for your reactions because i find them very entertaining and very deep!

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  4 года назад +4

      Thank you so much for your support! I'm looking forward to season 2 so badly ahhh.

  • @strangerdaysss
    @strangerdaysss 3 года назад +9

    i've finished the manga (10+ years ago) and all the anime episodes up to this date and correct me if I'm forgetting something but why is everyone making shigure seem like such a bad person? sure he is manipulative and selfish but he was also the one to pull all the pieces of the puzzle together (you'll know what i mean if you've finished the manga as i am referring to the ending). i honestly do not think shigure deserves all the hate.

  • @SneachdaCole
    @SneachdaCole 3 года назад +1

    Lord, I am SOOO glad they did a remake of the anime. The first one BARELY followed the manga at all, and it really just upset me. They left SOOOOOOO much out, namely Kureno and Rin, who are really important to the story. I've been wishing for a remake for so long, and I'm so happy we now have one. Sure it's been making me cry, by the manga did that as well. I'm so very grateful for the remake and seeing the characters the way they're supposed to be

  • @mikomiakari3949
    @mikomiakari3949 4 года назад +5

    I was introduced to Furuba by the original anime. I originally fell in love with how quirky it was and then, started reading the manga. It's my favorite manga for sure. It has a nice blend of the quirky humor and the serious tone of the remake. I'm was excited to learn about a remake. Without spoiling anything, I'll just say your analysis of Shigure is pretty on point. If this stays the course, it's about to start getting real crazy.

  • @talkshh
    @talkshh 4 года назад +5

    Yes this is why Sinistergure and Akito are my favorites, can't wait to watch the rest animated

  • @melina_0455
    @melina_0455 4 года назад +4

    Your comments and excitment for s2 give me life! I hope you'll do reaction videos or review videos on the the new episodes. Above all: DON'T GET SPOILED !

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  4 года назад +3

      I probably will be doing those! I promise I won't get spoiled haha. I've made it this far...

  • @reemahlynch
    @reemahlynch 4 года назад +1

    i just started watching it (2019) today and i love it!! i've already seen half of it hehe shigure is an amazing character and i love the tone of this series! one day i'll watch the original and love that too :) thank you for the video and can't wait to watch more

  • @EvoWatches
    @EvoWatches Год назад +2

    He just wants akito’s love

  • @Styx_
    @Styx_ 4 года назад +4

    Honestly, Shigure is one of my favs too so I'm so glad they show his complexities in the remake.

  • @Trisha_Yuu
    @Trisha_Yuu 4 года назад +19

    "Whose side is he really on?" Dude... do you even know ALL the sides that he can be on at this point...? omg the pain of knowing what's ahead... (spelling edit)

  • @shreya446
    @shreya446 4 года назад +1

    yes I’m so glad there will be a second season! this is one anime that just absolutely deserves many, many seasons,
    it’s a healing anime for me and I love it beyond words 🥺💕

  • @maytalacedo1284
    @maytalacedo1284 2 года назад +1

    I definitely would love to see more of what shigure is up to while also being scared of what's going to happens if he does win.

  • @bia5141
    @bia5141 4 года назад +15

    I loved Shigure in 2001 but I love him even more in 2019 version (although now m feelngs about him are more complicated) I am also only anime watcher so I cant wait whats to come

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  4 года назад

      I also really like his character but he just confused me in the 2019 version. I am so excited to really dive into his character!

  • @steviehendrix9859
    @steviehendrix9859 4 года назад +6

    I appreciate this comparative look at Shigure’s 2001 vs reboot character development! That being said, I do believe the 2001 make did actually hint at the probability of Shigure’s in-depth role in a potential plot build up on many occasions.
    I remember always feeling somewhat unfulfilled that this plot was never really “revealed” or built on in the original anime. I am however, ecstatic to see where it will go in the reboot. Shigure has always been one of my favorite characters, and I’ve found that my fondness for him has grown over time as I’ve grown closer to Shigure, Hatori & Ayame’s age group.
    On another note, VERY pleased with the choice of Japanese voice actors for the reboot!

  • @Bobrob1597
    @Bobrob1597 2 года назад +2

    He's my favorite character in the series. I view him as one of the main villains in the series. (at least in terms of the 2019 version.)

  • @mollyabercrombie5889
    @mollyabercrombie5889 3 года назад +2

    There were hints to this personality in the first one but it’s so much closer to the manga now I love it

  • @bunny_starss
    @bunny_starss 4 года назад +8

    i have picked up the manga sires from the library back in summer, it was a great story, and i was sad the anime did not have the whole story, i love the ending it was well done, and how some character connections came to be like Kyo and another character, and to find out Akito secret will shock you, and what happen to tohru on the second to last manga or last of the thick one will leave you in tears.

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  4 года назад +1

      I'm excited to see the rest of the story! Season 2 is going to be here so soon! We can finally learn the rest :)

    • @guessilldienow7447
      @guessilldienow7447 4 года назад

      Please tell me what happend ill die from curosity

  • @TwistedE13
    @TwistedE13 4 года назад +39

    Anime only fans: HE'S SO SCARY!! WHY DID THEY CHANGE HIM SO MUCH?!? HE'S NOT THE SAME!!!
    Manga fans who have known all along: * sips tea and snickers quietly * 😏☕

  • @greenpuppy54
    @greenpuppy54 4 года назад

    This video was a delight. I hope noone spoils the series for you.

  • @shinypetxls4470
    @shinypetxls4470 3 года назад +6

    at first he was like 2% villain, but now, he's about 98% villain.

  • @muffinpandas8034
    @muffinpandas8034 4 года назад +5

    Shigure was always my favorite character and when these things were unmasked I was very surprised. I like the change honestly. I was very excited because the original always left me most confused about Akito and even his minimal relationship with Shigure. But as it was stated, it feels so much darker😂

  • @RyujinRoot
    @RyujinRoot 4 года назад +10

    shigure is actually the darkest character very manipulative in a way its like its his world and everyone lives in it.....and thats why hes my fav character

  • @kagusumire
    @kagusumire 4 года назад +43

    You're pretty hopeful if you think second season will open the can of worns
    You will know everything season 3

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  4 года назад +4

      Season 3?!? Mind = blown. Can't freaking wait for it thou :0

    • @kagusumire
      @kagusumire 4 года назад +2

      @@BriThi Yeah, the manga is 23 volume long and the first season end around vol 8

    • @drakenfist
      @drakenfist 4 года назад +4

      @@BriThi It's a big series!. Season 1 only adapted like 42 and a half chapters out of 136!, with pacing at 2 chapters a episode and the odd special episode adapting only 1 chapter (the Uotani episodes took a alternative at adapting 1 and a half chapters a episode). So unless they start rushing stuff (which is the last thing any of us want). If they keep going at this really good pace. I can easily see this being a 3 season series of 25 episodes each. Heck may even be 4 seasons, as there were a couple storylines in the manga that didn't get enough detail, that could be fleshed out more.

    • @kagusumire
      @kagusumire 4 года назад

      @@drakenfist mmmm 4 season seems a bit much to be honest. No, 3 season will be perfect enough (I think season 2 will end around vol 15)

    • @jenniferlee9112
      @jenniferlee9112 4 года назад

      Wow a lot of us anime only folks are gonna have to get a copy of the manga series I don’t think we can wait for two more seasons for answers

  • @no.1garlicbreadenthusiast984
    @no.1garlicbreadenthusiast984 4 года назад +1

    This was such a great video dude 😊.

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  4 года назад

      Is that a wild Zoe Harris commenting again??? I haven't seen your name for awhile hope you have been great Zoe ^^

    • @no.1garlicbreadenthusiast984
      @no.1garlicbreadenthusiast984 4 года назад

      @@BriThi Yeah sorry about that I've just been busy stressing about this virus & I've subbed to so many youtubers resecently that I often seem to miss out on certain notifications so I actually thought you'd stopped making Fruits Basket videos for a while but I'm glad to find out that I was mistaken & am intrested in your reaction to the new season & I have to say I think this vedio is your best one so far.
      Also a warning please don't watch the newest season 2 trailer as though it's amazing it is very spoilery for non manga readers.
      I'm sorry I didn't reply to you sooner I was just playing a quiz with some internet friends & I couldn't post pone it as I was the one asking the questions & I'd already bailed on them serval times before.

  • @kookilenakkk8779
    @kookilenakkk8779 3 года назад +4

    The first anime honestly softened his character a loooooot
    He’s always been scary but the fact that he hides his wicked side under a cheerful and normal personality makes him look so... twisted and manipulative ?

  • @KagaKusanagi
    @KagaKusanagi 4 года назад +17

    Random, but Pokémon music!!

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  4 года назад +5

      How did you know?? Such good ears wow :0

  • @yotsuba361
    @yotsuba361 3 года назад

    As usual, keep the good ones for the last. That was worth it damn

  • @MariaPhs
    @MariaPhs 4 года назад

    Great video, keep up the good work! Subscribed!

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  4 года назад

      Thanks for subbing and commenting :)

  • @pikaluv8
    @pikaluv8 4 года назад +3

    As a manga reader im so excited to see someone experience this thought process about shigure for the first time

  • @kitsune0626
    @kitsune0626 4 года назад +3

    The manga is one of my favorites and I love that the new take on the anime is actually following the tragedy that is Fruits Basket. Akito especially is a tragic story.

  • @JerzaStark14
    @JerzaStark14 4 года назад

    I’m happy the remake is sticking to the manga! I’ve watched the original last summer and almost finished the manga! It’s great to see it sticking so close to it this time around! Such a great story!

  • @btsarmyredeta482
    @btsarmyredeta482 3 года назад +2

    Here I am watching this while waiting for season 3. Damnnn it's gonna wrap it all up. I'm dying for certain scenes to be animated

  • @sems0485
    @sems0485 4 года назад +9

    But Shigure 2019 wasn´t altered from his original version, he IS the real Shigure. And Fruits Basket is actually a drama, a very deep and hard one trust me

  • @kasurinjung
    @kasurinjung 4 года назад +5

    The 2001 ver brought me this amazing series but the original manga made it my ultimate favourite of all time so I’m extremely excited knowing they remake the original manga in anime. My reaction was like you when I realised how dark Shigure actually is when read the manga. Also please stay tunes for the twist on the relationship between Shigure and Akito. I’m pretty sure you will be surprised and like it a lot. The thing that makes me love this series is because the darkness that it brought. You laugh a lot but cry a lot too. I cried so much reading the manga so I can already see myself crying my eyeballs out when those scenes being animated for the first time. I honestly adore every character from this series bc they are very well-written

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  4 года назад +1

      Yeah the characters are seriously well written. It makes for a really great story honestly. Thanks for writing this well thought out comment :)

    • @kasurinjung
      @kasurinjung 4 года назад

      @@BriThi haha np. I hope you will enjoy the whole story as I do. Just really hype when someone likes my babies. Looking forwards for more videos from you

  • @livetogetrad
    @livetogetrad 4 года назад

    I’m so glad you picked up on the difference in Shigure! You have no idea what you’re in for with the future eps. 😅

  • @m3yr1n
    @m3yr1n 4 года назад

    Nice analysis.. i like how you could grasp the mystery and twists the author put in the series. You are right about Shigure too, he's so much more than what is seen on the surface

  • @UndeadExorc1st
    @UndeadExorc1st 4 года назад +8

    I only watched the first episodes of the re-make, so I went into this video blindly because I was curious.
    Wasn't there hints of Shigure's darker side in the original as well? I remember there was something that made him seem really shady to me which made my young self dislike him because he scared me...
    If I re-watch the original and find out why, I will go back and edit this comment (unless someone else corrects me before that)

  • @truptipatil9348
    @truptipatil9348 3 года назад +3

    Shigure is the only character in the entire anime whom I have not understood at all.

  • @hypemynizzle
    @hypemynizzle 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for using Emotion from Pokemon Black and White. Made this 10x more beautiful.

  • @cowboydevil5993
    @cowboydevil5993 3 года назад

    Unwavering hearts in the background.. nice choice

  • @danacamara8412
    @danacamara8412 4 года назад +6

    I already read the manga i can’t wait to see al of your reactions hehe

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  4 года назад

      It'll be crazy~! Thank you for commenting Dana ^ ^

    • @ermocostamagna9050
      @ermocostamagna9050 4 года назад

      I've also already read the manga too.

  • @nol5152
    @nol5152 3 года назад +3

    i'm gonna be honest with you....i clicked because there;s Shigure in the thumbnail that's all....you don't understand,i'm obsessed with this old man and it's not ok

  • @lolawhiterabbit
    @lolawhiterabbit 4 года назад +1

    I read the manga when I was in High school before the first anime adaptation, it’s such a heart wrenching/heartwarming story. You really get the depths and layers of each character and you get to see what really drives them forward exposing their inner most vulnerable and ugly side to them. It’s honestly such a beautiful story and so sweet, pure and sorrowful. I loved the first anime adaptation but I have to agree when they lacked some of the depths and part of the story just to make it more light hearted and comedic. Not that the manga is not light hearted and funny because it was but it also had a different side to it, an undertone that kept you uneasy and somewhat nervous. I’m so happy with the remake and how close it is to it’s original source because it’s truly such a beautiful story and it does the characters justice by revealing them and correctly telling their side to give us a better understanding of where they stand and how the story will progress.

  • @queenmelodee283
    @queenmelodee283 4 года назад +1

    I can't wait to see what season 2 brings (what with following the manga now and everything)!

  • @hopefuljillian7621
    @hopefuljillian7621 4 года назад +72

    "I've never read the manga, i know nothing about anything!'
    *refers to Akito as 'them'*
    i smell a lie

    • @raspberrysoda372
      @raspberrysoda372 4 года назад +19

      To be fair. It might be that he heard that spoiler without reading the manga. It is pretty easy to find out that spoiler just by googling Akito. That is a big reason I tell people who watch this series to never google anything about it becuase it is such an easy spoiler.

    • @Isabella.botto.
      @Isabella.botto. 3 года назад +1

      @@raspberrysoda372 true, i've never read the manga but since the first anime version of fruits basket , there where people spoiling it on the comments lmao

  • @trystkinkou5542
    @trystkinkou5542 4 года назад +5

    "Haven't read the manga...." oh..oh you poor poor lambs to the slaughter. *cackles* I hope it keeps true to the manga so you can really experience the twisted beauty that is fruits basket. I will say the driving force for all characters in a way is love denied either for others or amongst themselves.

    • @deathfangz1609
      @deathfangz1609 4 года назад

      Tryst Kinkou i really want to read the manga but are there any websites i can read the manga online??

  • @megamiet1210
    @megamiet1210 4 года назад

    There is so much going on and I for one can't wait.

  • @maddyd3422
    @maddyd3422 4 года назад +2

    I can’t wait until you see the story unfold :) Akito and Shigure are my two favourite characters.

  • @pandarama816
    @pandarama816 4 года назад +147

    Manga readers: oooohh, you have NO idea 🤫😉😈

  • @danielleheart6434
    @danielleheart6434 3 года назад +3

    I have always had the hots for Shigure but the new Fruit Baskets made him even more attractive and I am also the year of the dog 🐶

  • @karleabramow4736
    @karleabramow4736 4 года назад

    So excited for season 2!!!