'Both Ovaries Have to Come Out' | Chicago Med
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Dr. Halstead is struggling to figure out what is wrong with his 30 year-old patient, in a very last resource he opts for an ovariectomy.
Season 04, Episode 04, Backed Against the Wall
Dr. Halstead gets an unplanned visit from the CPD while Ethan is skeptical of a woman who is experiencing chronic pain. Natalie tends to a cancer patient whose brother has strong feelings on why he is refusing to lend his assistance.
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Honestly, I'd rather lose the ability to have biological children (since adoption is always an option) than be dead...
Yeah plus u can give kids nice homes
Not everyone feels the same way
@@Taz48930 yeah true but if they didnt go thru with the surgery she wouldve died there. But I understand what ur saying
@@esmatheegg some people would rather die than not have kids, specially people that have struggled with infertility for years and years
@@Taz48930 that is depressing, you are more than your reproductive system.
"that sort of teratoma is really rare"
"yes, but this is a TV drama"
Well said, well said
no its amazing that they are putting it in TV
There's at least one teratoma in every medical show. It's a bit annoying.
this is very accurate, as well as being diagnosed in one episode 💀
Rare equals there
"you said you didnt have a choice, so how tough could it have been". wow
Why children when you can have a dog
Right?! I don't think I'd want her as my doctor; she's too cold!
@@-mrgd1-384 odd way to spell ‘cat’ but otherwise right on
Lol
I, still alive not dead to clarify
Im a little baffeled that he did not ask her about wanting to have children but made the assumption based on her age. Could have well been that she would have much rather had them taken out than risk complications and such. I just wish that in a real life situation the patient would be consulted.
they couldnt consult her she was dying
Actually damage can be permanent there is no solution except to remove it
@@hyewire she was able to speak when they initially discussed it. At least keep her in the loop, so they can make decisions based on her actual wishes. Some women are ready to get their tubes tied at 25. She could have been one of them.
@@angelicasmodel My experience with doctors, they wouldn't have listened anyway. I had a uterine tumour that was growing so fast it was outstripping its own blood supply. I was bleeding so heavily and so often that I ended up anemic enough to develop a heart murmur. I had repeatedly said that I do not want kids, have never wanted kids, so please do surgery to remove the tumour, and my uterus, if need be. My GYN refused for months, on the grounds that "surgery might affect [my] ability to have kids some day." My GP backed her up on this. Meanwhile, I was getting sicker, and if an ER doc hadn't been able to feel the tumour through my stomach and admitted me to the hospital, effectively forcing everyone's hand, I would have continued to get sicker while a bunch of doctors remained so obsessed with the babies I didn't want that they refused to actually help their actual patient.
So yeah, while it's frustrating as heck to watch this clip and see a TV doc go, "Oh no, I won't do the only thing that makes sense to me because future babies, even though I didn't ask about babies at all," it makes way too much sense to me that this would really happen.
I mean this is the same character that ignored a DNR because he apparently knew better than the patient that she wanted to enter a clinical trial
His reservation about removing her ovaries at first was that she was only 30 and she might not be able to have kids. So, why not ask her about it?
Yeah exactly!
the doctors were discussing options and they she siezed and it became an emergency before they could ask the patient.
Because the imaginary future children are more important than her comfort and life. It's the same reason drs don't let women get their tubes tied “in case they might want kids”
@@MorganVsTheInternet Actually, her condition was rapidly deteriorating, so they could't ask her (the show is set in some sort of emergency unit, so the span of this happening needs to be short, otherwise she would have been transferred to another unit). Also about the "they might want to have kids" thing, Americans sue for tiniest things, so it's more like "so I don't get sued if she changes her mind".
@@MorganVsTheInternet yeah they refused me when i was 19 even though i didnt want to have kids and had never wanted kids and then i accidently ended up pregnant when i was 21 i kept my son and he is now almost 4 and i still dont want to have anymore kids but they are still refusing to give me it incase i want more kids so im left confused trying to figure out where the doctors are getting their logic from
Lmfao at the medical student. She absolutely refuses to play her part in a Drama show, she's just there to do her job as a med student. It actually kind of grounds the show in a way since most people would act just like her; reality isn't a TV show, after all.
I had this condition exactly! So interesting to see it on a medical drama, haha!
Hope your OK
Hope ur alright💕
woah hope you're OK
@@armouredavenger3000 love your username and pfp lmao
same here! my teratoma didn't affect my brain though. and luckily I still have one intact ovary
I’m so pissed at this episode, they should’ve just asked her if she wanted her ovaries removed.
Not all women want to have children, or biological children.
I may want a child but I’m not bringing one into this world so I’d adopt one.
She went from lucid and functional to slurring and barely concious to seizing in what seems to be a span of hours. I doubt she would be able to consent at that point (or even be concious enough to notice she's being talked to) and that's the same notion the screenwriters seem to be using here
@@nikdozajimavy1277 yeah, but at the point when they were talking about removing her ovaries when she was still lucid and could very well make that choice.
Hell, I’ve seen person consent to surgery(life threatening surgery at that)a few seconds before going into a manic episode so I don’t think that this would have been a problem foe the writers to put in the show.
Either way, i still think they should’ve at least had something that showed the women having her own thoughts on the matter because if it were up to me, I’d rather be alive and not be able to have biological children than be dead
So do I, if i ever decide to have kids I'll adopt before even consider have one of my own. but i am childfree so i hardly se it happen but still, adoption before giving birth.
Not being able to have children is not the only problem. I don't wan't to have children but I don't want a premature menopause. I had a teacher that had her ovaries removed when she was in her thirties, to prevent some medical problem that wasn't urgent. She regretted it because she had bad menopause symptoms since then.
@@PatriciaXara that’s a very good point, if it wasn’t urgent I’d probably not do it just in case of a bad menopause.
I do feel that the situation in the show was a bit different. I wouldn’t have blamed the women if she choose not to remove her ovaries, but I’m more focused on the part that she actually has a choice to begin with and that she knows what’s going on.
I’m 24 but I don’t want kids. If my doctor said he needed to remove my ovaries I’d be fine with that. Even if I do change my mind down the road and decide I want to be a parent I’d rather adopt.
3:20 _“she’s seizing”_
wow I *REALLY* couldn’t tell
Every other doctor/nurse when a patient seizes: THEY'RE SEIZING!
The doctor assisting doctor Halstead: she's seizing *so calm*
(I'm sorry I don't know that doctors' name aha)
Her name is Miss Curry
@@sorchagalvin5976 Ok thanks!
(With no change in her voice) her SATS are plummeting 💁♀️ 😐
@@kathrynclare9966 ikr 😂😂
I’m more in awe how all these patient-actors simulate all these symptoms.
Plot twist: they aren't simulating
0:44, Dude! You do not ghost Hank Voight.
why do they have great chemistry !!!
All I've seen is this clip and there was zero conversation with the pt about removing her ovaries. Imagine waking up and finding out both your ovaries were removed because a dr had a hunch? Regardless if he was right, that would be very difficult for someone to process
The dr would get sued in real life.
She seized and they took her up for surgery cause they thought she was going to die. There was no time to ask her, plus she was unconscious. She had no legal guardian with her so it was the doctor's call.
Also imagine having a seizure and neurological dysfunction but still not addressed because they couldn't get a definitive scan of the teratoma. Wait, that is if she was still alive by the time they confirm it before undergoing surgery.
I mean if they didn't do it she wouldn't have woken up at all.....cuz she'd be dead
l love this video so much keep the hard work you are doing Chicago official 💙💙💙
Thank you so much!!
I feel like she was too cold and I wouldn’t want her as my doctor 😅
Im so mad he automatically assumed she wanted kids, and pushed for new tests, causing her possible brain damage from the seizures. Even if she did, SHE COULD HAVE DIED.
Not to mention you can have kids without ovaries??? You could get IVF or adopt an already existing child.
Strongly agree with your comment, but I thought you needed ovaries to have IVF? They need your eggs. That is unless you use someone else’s.
@@hawaii3231 you can get someone elses, thats what alot of people do. Thats why people can donate their eggs
It's not just that though, having your ovaries removed means you either have to go on hormone therapy or go through menopause, which both have their side effects and downsides. And if he didn't wait, he may have removed her ovaries for no reason
@@isobel6739 he did wait, and had to remove both anyways
@@sagekatt5334 yeah but if she hadn't have gotten worse or if a different, new symptom appeared they would've removed them for no reason
bro what if she didnt want kids. give her the option???? no need to put her life on the line bc you think all women want kids bruh
He couldn't ask her because her brain was under influence and even if she didn't people change their minds. He did the only thing a decent doctor could in that situation
She shouldn’t be given the option in these circumstances
And doctors should fight to keep organs or limbs up until the point when it is no longer an option
It’s a big deal
And it’s not sexist… there’s a big difference between not wanting kids and not being able to have them
In my experience people who didn’t even want kids are still often devastated when they unexpectedly find out that they can no longer have them
*edited for inclusivity
Actually no a doctor should exhaust all possibilities before presenting a patient with an idea as terrifying as removing a body part. No need to put a patients life on the line to save their leg because you think all people want to walk everywhere bruh.
Removing a body part, even if you're not planning on using it is extremely risky and daunting, I'm gay, I'll never get a woman pregnant but i was terrified at the thought of losing a testicle during a medical emergency. She'd get the option as a last resort, as it should be
I heard that certain women, depending on their state, has to get written permission from her husband just to have her tubes tied
@@caitswildecake2582 Depends where you live. In my country, you need to have at least one kid, more than 35 years and your husband permission. What is ridiculous, since many women want to tie their tubes while young so they don't have children.
Oh no I have to choose between a womans life and some imaginary future children, whatever will I pick?
ok but the docter with blonde hair is so pretty
"She's only 30, i do this and she can never have kids again"
"That was the toughest call I ever had to make..."
If only Dr Halstead ever bothered to talk to his patients and make decisions based on ehat they want rather than what he thinks is right... As my dad likes to say, he wouldn't "take on so"....
Hi everyone..the first time I came across this channel and watched one video I was interested, and I will watch another video
There is always room for adoption. Many children don’t have families. I don’t think blood defines who family is.
It's so weird to hear Americans talk of adoption like it's about as complicated as buying a carton of milk. Where I live, a couple can wait 5-7 years for a child to become available for adoption. That's after they go through the vetting process. And adopting more than one child just isn't on the table.
@@Galastel Its not easy in any country, but what the fk is your point?
a child is a child. if you want to adopt and have the means, you will do it.
theres also foster care in america (and many other countries), which requires a lot less hastle
@@vermilion6966 If I want to adopt, but there are no children in my country who need to be adopted, I suppose I can go abroad, to some third-world country that allows adoption by foreigners, but you do realise that's a complicated additional process, right?
It's just crazy but I think women should have a medical waver that's says if it comes down to my life or my ability to have kids please choose to save my life. It's that bad.
Wouldn’t it be lovly if all Drs were as gentle when incubating??🙏🏻
I mean it's an emergency you have to go fast so your patient isn't dead and/or severely brain damaged from lack of oxygen
Why does it sound like their voices are high pitched
Maybe ask her if she's even interested in having kids lmfao
Does anyone else learns alot in one video?😕
Earliest i will ever be for one of these videos XD
same😂
Can I just say you don't incubate someone when they are seizing that is false. I have seizures all the time. Unless something happens after the matter but thats not the first thing to do. I'm just confused by that they always tend to incubate someone when they seize
I have a question. Why don't they take 1 ovary out and if its not the correct one take the other one out.
She could still have kids through IVF if she wanted. they only took the ovaries not a total hysterectomy.
They collect the eggs from the ovary right..
@@mehnazsreya or they use donated eggs you know women donate eggs like men donate sperm right only difference is the a womens eggs have to be collected in a different way
@@stephanierobinson3860 ahh ok thank you that makes sense!
@@mehnazsreya yeah most people forget about egg donations
IVF is expensive though. And it can take a long time to work
so sad
enjoy it as always✨
Is it just me or am i getting angered by the female doctor..
Why not do a biopsy of the 2 suspicious masses??
When she said she was seizing I thought oh really is that whys she moving like that 😂
Kinda surprised by the lack of empathy from the student. ''You said you had no choice, how tough could it [the choice] have been?'' Jeez blondie, youre a young woman, i'd think you would be able to understand how devastating it would be to lose the ability to have children.
Nice video.
Thanks!
Why did both ovaries have to come out if only one had the teratoma?
They couldn't tell which one had the teratoma
blondie is pissing me off 😒
Miss gurl looks like Gabby Tanner
Hello eu romania
I hen voight called I was like :🤔🤔🤔🤔😟😟😟 no not jay hallstead
Why does he care about her having kids and her age
@Ariana Rose yeah sure have a partener make a decision for her, maybe she'll be dead by that time
Can anyone tell where can I watch the full the episodes
Good
It is back on Netflix⁉️because I didn't finished it 💔
only the first 4 seasons (in the UK anyway)
@@lucybufton7147 in Germany too 🥴💔
HOW THE HELL can u keep sum tubes in ur throat I choke on water
Hi
Yesss
I felt sad for she wasn’t able to have children anymore at least not biologically
Sheesh
lol
wow Fox
Come on guys you should be used to "super rare" conditions by now.
OK Wait isn't he a plastic surgeon how is he doing a cysts surgery is that even possible?????
He’s a surgeon after all?
@@guillaumem9953 yes but not a gynecologist so how??🤔🤔
@@sakshi8060 He studied medicine, they study the anatomy of the human body? In addition he is a surgeon of the human body in general above all
@@guillaumem9953 OK it's just that maybeee I haven't seen that happening in my country so (I might even be wrong as I am not a medical profession.😅😅)
lets go
I'm not to early but I am early
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2:52 she a Karen for sure
How do you manage to spell a common name incorrectly?
early
First
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