Thank you!! Recovering from profound Catholic and cultural gaslighting and endless narratives of perpetrators and abusers - being 'wounded' - and how I must tolerate them and be kind and forgive them, even if they are not sorry, haven't stopped and no matter what they do to me... A whole childhood of confessing 'SINS" in particular the sins of pain and anger at being abused. The response every single time..... To pray for the abusers and to say an act of contrition for my terrible sin of being angry or sad, as a 6,7,8,9,10, 11, 12 year old child and some admonishment and a few other prayers along with the acts of contrition and me having to promise I'd try to do better.. How are we still alive??
You're very welcome! I'm so sorry you went through that. It can really be mind twisting. Where is the compassion for the victims? When is the church going to grow a backbone and stand up to the people it needs to? Instead of putting pressure on the abuser to change, it puts pressure on the young, the weak, and the vulnerable to change, as if it was their weight to carry in the first place.
@@FurnaceForged The problem is abusers are constantly infiltrating and controlling narratives, especially those around victims. Number 1 tactic claim to be a victim themselves or to have been one in the past. Number 2 tactic claim to be a defender of victims (great tactic for accessing vulnerable people) Number 3 tactic be a philanthropist or raise money for victims (Jimmy Saville) Simultaneously - subtly and overtly undermine victims. For example criticising the victims voice as they try to share their pain or situation... calling it f 'thinking like a victim' you have to be a 'survivor not victim' any and every narrative twist to prevent true victims from actually getting to call a spade a spade. Abusers don't like that. What they do is so insidious. How can an organisation identify and expel abusers? You have to have criminal evidence. But that's assuming the head of the organisation isn't an abuser themselves and actually wants this. So many systems are rotten to the core. Do they even have policies or systems to keep them out? Look at the news stories of abusers in Creche's, Boyscouts etc.. A police check is hardly enough. I found the book 'Wolf in Sheep's Clothing' by Dr. George Simon helpful.
@@FurnaceForged Thank you yes.. absolutley.. I'll share some of what I've found over many years of research. The problem is abusers are constantly infiltrating and controlling narratives, especially those around victims. Number 1 tactic claim to be a victim themselves or to have been one in the past. Number 2 tactic claim to be a defender of victims (great tactic for accessing vulnerable people) Number 3 tactic be a philanthropist or raise money for victims (Jimmy Saville) Simultaneously - subtly and overtly undermine victims. For example criticising the victims voice as they try to share their pain or situation... calling it 'thinking like a victim' you have to be a 'survivor not victim' any and every narrative twist to prevent true victims from actually getting to call a spade a spade. Abusers don't like that. What they do is so insidious. How can an organisation identify and expel abusers? You have to have criminal evidence. But that's assuming the head of the organisation isn't an abuser themselves and actually wants this. So many systems are rotten to the core. Do they even have policies or systems to keep them out? Look at the news stories of abusers in Creche's, Boyscouts etc.. A police check is hardly enough. I found the book 'Wolf in Sheep's Clothing' by Dr. George Simon helpful.
Thank you!!
Recovering from profound Catholic and cultural gaslighting and endless narratives of perpetrators and abusers - being 'wounded' - and how I must tolerate them and be kind and forgive them, even if they are not sorry, haven't stopped and no matter what they do to me...
A whole childhood of confessing 'SINS" in particular the sins of pain and anger at being abused.
The response every single time..... To pray for the abusers and to say an act of contrition for my terrible sin of being angry or sad, as a 6,7,8,9,10, 11, 12 year old child and some admonishment and a few other prayers along with the acts of contrition and me having to promise I'd try to do better..
How are we still alive??
You're very welcome! I'm so sorry you went through that. It can really be mind twisting. Where is the compassion for the victims? When is the church going to grow a backbone and stand up to the people it needs to? Instead of putting pressure on the abuser to change, it puts pressure on the young, the weak, and the vulnerable to change, as if it was their weight to carry in the first place.
@@FurnaceForged The problem is abusers are constantly infiltrating and controlling narratives, especially those around victims.
Number 1 tactic claim to be a victim themselves or to have been one in the past.
Number 2 tactic claim to be a defender of victims (great tactic for accessing vulnerable people)
Number 3 tactic be a philanthropist or raise money for victims (Jimmy Saville)
Simultaneously - subtly and overtly undermine victims. For example criticising the victims voice as they try to share their pain or situation... calling it f 'thinking like a victim' you have to be a 'survivor not victim' any and every narrative twist to prevent true victims from actually getting to call a spade a spade. Abusers don't like that.
What they do is so insidious.
How can an organisation identify and expel abusers? You have to have criminal evidence. But that's assuming the head of the organisation isn't an abuser themselves and actually wants this. So many systems are rotten to the core. Do they even have policies or systems to keep them out? Look at the news stories of abusers in Creche's, Boyscouts etc.. A police check is hardly enough. I found the book 'Wolf in Sheep's Clothing' by Dr. George Simon helpful.
@@FurnaceForged Thank you yes.. absolutley.. I'll share some of what I've found over many years of research.
The problem is abusers are constantly infiltrating and controlling narratives, especially those around victims.
Number 1 tactic claim to be a victim themselves or to have been one in the past.
Number 2 tactic claim to be a defender of victims (great tactic for accessing vulnerable people)
Number 3 tactic be a philanthropist or raise money for victims (Jimmy Saville)
Simultaneously - subtly and overtly undermine victims. For example criticising the victims voice as they try to share their pain or situation... calling it 'thinking like a victim' you have to be a 'survivor not victim' any and every narrative twist to prevent true victims from actually getting to call a spade a spade. Abusers don't like that.
What they do is so insidious. How can an organisation identify and expel abusers? You have to have criminal evidence. But that's assuming the head of the organisation isn't an abuser themselves and actually wants this. So many systems are rotten to the core. Do they even have policies or systems to keep them out? Look at the news stories of abusers in Creche's, Boyscouts etc.. A police check is hardly enough.
I found the book 'Wolf in Sheep's Clothing' by Dr. George Simon helpful.
Some very good points! Thanks for sharing this!
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Thank you! Good video!
Thank you, too! Glad you liked it!
There is a really high pitched interference on your video. I’m not sure what it is.
Not sure what that is. Will check into it. Thanks! Hope it didn't totally distract you!