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Linguistics professor Louise Banks (Amy Adams) leads an elite team of investigators when gigantic spaceships touch down in 12 locations around the world. As nations teeter on the verge of global war, Banks and her crew must race against time to find a way to communicate with the extraterrestrial visitors. Hoping to unravel the mystery, she takes a chance that could threaten her life and quite possibly all of mankind.
Arrival is a 2016 American science fiction drama film directed by Denis Villeneuve and adapted by Eric Heisserer, who conceived the project as a spec script based on the 1998 short story "Story of Your Life" by Ted Chiang. The film stars Amy Adams as Louise Banks, a linguist enlisted by the United States Army to discover how to communicate with extraterrestrials who have arrived on Earth before tensions lead to war. Jeremy Renner, Forest Whitaker, Michael Stuhlbarg, and Tzi Ma appear in supporting roles.
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What a fantastic, wild, confusing at moments film! Cast and crew did awesome with this! What was your reaction? What did we miss?
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I'd seriously recommend all of Denis's filmography, starting with Incendies. It's one of his first movies but it's one of the greatest films of the last decade, tbh. His later ones have been phenomenal for sure, but do definitely check that one out.
Did you notice that Abbott is late to arrive the last time because he knows he is arriving to his death.
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One of the beautiful things about this movie to me is that she isn’t seeing the future, she’s just experiencing different parts of her life all at the same time. She’s not manipulating what happens in order to avoid a certain outcome; instead, all these experiences intertwine and inform each other. In her mind, her daughter doesn’t die in the future; she is both present, yet to be born, and already gone, and Louise just chooses to experience it all. She doesn’t choose not to tell Ian this time because he leaves; she already will tell him, already has, and knew he would leave all along. It’s incredible, and I loved rewatching it with you all.
Very well said. Louise did say that time is not linear.
but she could change it
This is well put!
Edit: let me correct that, this is *REALLY* well put!
@@musicmashup9597 i used to agree but, im gonna be honest, i don't think she can
what she experiences is pretty much the Doctor Manhattan experience-she lives every moment in time at once. She can focus on one moment, of course, but not stop experiencing it all. And when you're everywhere in time, everything is already in the past. Done and gone. Even if she tried to do something different in one moment, she's already in the future and in the past
@@fernandoc5536 But then why does she asks Ian whether he would change his life or not if he knew his life from start to finish?
Keep in mind the alien knew he was going to die but still went through with it.
That’s why he’s late to the chamber. He already knows, but he also knows he dies in minutes. Talk about nervous!
Anyone who learns their language will be able to perceive time as the aliens do - not just Louise. She was the first. In 3,000 years they need our help collectively, not Louise specifically. Louise is the one to bring their language to the world.
There's also a little detail on how Abbott was always the second to arrive, as if he was late. The thing is that he was not late at all; he was dreading his own death, that's why he was always the second one, like if it tooks him a lot knowing that in that room he was going to die. It's sad.
That is an interesting thought. I guess you might be right. But he had to do it anyway.
Even more beautiful fact is that they accept the names "Abbott and Costello". Names that Louise and Ian gave them.
The first time they hug she says "I forgot how good it felt to be held by you." Insanely, cool, sad, brilliant writing. Also, Denis Villeneuve is a genius, best contemporary director.
that is the single most powerful line to me.
The very first lines of the movie basically tell you the reveal. "Memory is a strange thing. We are so bound by time, by its order." Love that
My favorite thing about this channel is that Oak is always the most skeptical about movies like Arrival and Harry Potter, and then, once he’s done with them, he is always is the most impacted, the most moved, the most permanently changed. That’s precious.
When the credits roll on this one, everyone is chattering excitedly, but he sits there, somberly, quietly, really absorbing the sheer gravity and sorrow of what he just witnessed.
And at the same time, as soon as this video started, I noticed that he’s the only one with like three pieces of Harry Potter memorabilia on his desk 😆.
He genuinely takes something away from seeing these incredible, powerful films.
And I love that so much about him.
He’s hesitant and mentions lots of movies that he started and didn’t finish or somehow lost interest in. Sit him down and make him watch something and he really gets invested. Great stuff!
Love this movie, it means a lot to me. Personal story: about a month before this movie came out my first daughter died. I went to this on a whim just hoping for some easy sci fi adventure story, I had no idea what I was getting into, and an usher had to help me out of the theater afterwards. The message at the end was so important for me to hear, and it's impossible for me to watch without crying. Really looking forward to watching your video, you guys are a really emotionally intelligent crew, I know it's going to be nice to watch this with you.
So sorry about your loss🙏 virtual hugs!
Thank you for just being here and being a testament for glimpsing the bigger picture of what life is. I'm glad this movie helped you see some of that, and while I am sorry for your loss and would never want to experience it, that you got to experience your time with your child is a gift, and I think despite the grief you are blessed.
So so sorry for your loss. May your happiest memories of your daughter lighten your darkest days.🌹
@@denisesf5 I never know what to say to someone that has lost someone but I'm gonna use this from now on
I just teared up reading this 😢💖 My heart goes out to you. I'm glad this film provided some light and comfort.
To clarify, their language, really learning it and becoming fluent, is what makes you able to experience time all at once. Implication is that Louise will start the process of teaching whoever can learn and push humanity forward toward a new era.
It’s not just that she can “see the future” it’s all happening at the same time, it’s a circle. Those moments where she “sees the future” she’s actually living those moments at that time hence the Chinese genral giving her his number and info and her knowing them in her past.
Yeah, they all kept saying that she has the ability to change things, but that’s not exactly how it works. Even in the future she has to ask Hannah what day it is because she’s living just as much in the past as she does in the future and vice versa.
Exactly, as Ian explained that the heptapods see time as non-linear.
And hence why she decided to have Hannah. It wasn't just about journey vs destination or giving Hannah a chance to live what life she had. It was also because she ALREADY knew Hannah and loved her, before she was born.
@@Steelburgh Louise didn't decide to have Hannah despite knowing what would happen to her. She'd already had Hannah. It had already happened.
i think Ian kind of gets a bad rap because of the line "he doesn't look at me the same way anymore." it sounds like she is implying she feels he suddenly loves her less, but i think its just that he knows she is going to die and this has created a change in his demeanor he can't hide, that she has noticed, which i think should be expected. he left Louise because he can't forgive her for forcing such a loss onto him that he could have avoided, but like Louise says, he didn't leave Hannah, he still loves Hannah and is seeing her regularly and is making himself openly available to her, helping her with her homework, just like a normal father, albeit a divorced one.
You trying to dig dipper and it's nice, But statisctically man almost always leave women if the child has got badly sick or/and died, or if the child was born sick or disabled, or when wife got really sick or, my favourite one, got raped. It's just statistics. That's why women should always know how to provide for themselves and their children and don't put much trust on men.
@@LSG101097 For this story, he was angry that he wasn't informed by his wife that she knew his child would die early from terminal illness. It's a total understandable reason for them to divorce, as it was a huge betrayal. For him, this was a preventable tragedy.
As they said. They put their hands on both sides and meet in the middle. That's what they did with the film. They started with the end and the beginning. Then we met in the middle.
We are trained to assume continuity if shots are cut after another unless specifically pointed out as flashback/-forward. Otherwise it confuses viewers. But here they deliberately break that rule to emphasise the point of the movie. To give us a glimpse of how she percieves time now. And on top of that a great message.
I loved the film when I first saw it. Usually I don't like "alien invasion" movies too much. And this film kinda shows why because it takes such a different approach and doesn't do the things I usually dislike. It also feels very realistic, like how our world would actually react to aliens showing up.
Holy- I'm gonna have to quote you on that "meet in the middle" when explaining the fascination I have with this movie to other people
I also think it’s interesting to think about maybe Ian wasn’t mad at her like “why didn’t you tell me sooner” about the daughter but maybe he was like “why did you tell me that at all” ???? maybe rather than wishing he already knew, he actually couldn’t cope with knowing and just waiting for it to happen and he would rather have been in the dark? Could be either way and honestly I don’t know which way I’d feel either!
Well I could see how cruel that is from his perspective, she knowingly brought him into that painful scenario without giving him a choice.
I always read it as him being mad that she went through with having a child knowing that they would lose her.
@@gingetomassi8153 That is exactly the reason, it is made explicit in the original book "Stories of my life" by Ted Chiang.
@@marslaraactually we don't know that. She held the burden alone way before the pregnancy. Knowing she will one day have a daughter and she will die from a disease. Without him knowing.
And maybe one day they discussed about that burden. These flash forward memories that come and maybe he wanted her to tell him what's going on. And in the end... He couldn't bear it.
@@MaafaxKelen I mean regardless of how or why she decided to tell him I still think it's understandable why he would be upset. Again she knowingly went throught with it without telling him what she saw until it was too late.
He probably would have left no matter what, but the issue was as a partner she didn't even give him a chance of being able to choose. Whether it's locked in stone or not that was not fair of her.
The only exception is if for some reason she wasn't able to figure out the time thing and basically found out too late herself.
I knew the Oak was going to absolutely love this.
Also, because the aliens have an understanding of time and can see the future, that means that Abbott ALWAYS knew that he was going to die as result of the soldiers that planted the bomb. He chose to go forward with the mission, even knowing the outcome- just like Louise.
One of my favorite songs ever is in this movie as well as episode 3 of The Last of Us, it’s called On the Nature of Daylight by Max Ritcher. Its use in this movie is also significant in that it was composed as a protest to the Iraq war and war in general, and here Louise’s ultimate goal is to prevent war. This is one of my top 5 movies it’s so well put together, the shots and sound design and Amy Adam’s performance are all so outstanding to me
Yes! That song was amazing! I finally found it 2 days ago from this film. Really good!
That song matched with the ending always gets me choked up.
I remember this song mainly from Shutter Island
Can you send me a link to that song? (I don’t know how to find it,) but I loved TLoU, episode 3. I definitely would make the choice Bill made in that situation!
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Y'all did a very good job at understanding the movie but I just wanna add some stuff that slips most people's analysis of the movie: Louise's timeline becomes non-linear when she obtains the gift. She is able to perceive her life from the past POV and from the future's POV, essentially connecting her timeline into a circle (non linear). This is also why Louise chose to name her daughter Hannah, which can be written or 'drawn' starting from either side (like a circle)
Also: Louise asks at the end 'if you could see your whole life ahead of you, would you change things?' This implies that Louise's future is also non-linear because she has the OPTION of changing her future decisions. Through that fact, her past ALSO becomes non-linear because her 'future past' will change depending on what she decides to do with her non-linear future.
This movie is my all time favorite.
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What broke my heart about this was that she didn’t tell him because she wanted him to be full of joy and hope and to embrace this beauty knowing she would tell him eventually their child would die and he’d leave her in anger. How could she not tell him? She wanted him to be able to have a normal and happy life until their child was about to be sick. And she’s thinking (experiencing) the end and hugging him, knowing he’ll leave her because he will see it as a betrayal. So not just the child, but also the husband l, the happiness of being with him for those years alone…
I know, it's so selfish!
Loved your reaction and one of my favourite films of all time.
The General's wife’s last words are “In war there are no winners, only widows.”
One of my favorite things to have learned about the movie and I really wish they’d show the final words for everyone in the movie, cause they’re pretty significant to plot imo
@@coruscanta I understand however, the beauty of the Mandarin Chinese non-subtitled/non-translated duologue is that it's open to speculation and that hits hard. We as an audience fill it because it hits the general hard with his reaction enough to stand down.
@@IndySidhu88 that’s very fair! The mystery can be a nice touch too!
Thanks for the translation!!! You improved an already perfect movie!!
@@coruscanta Appearently the director chose not to translate it
It’s sad once you realize that Abbott and Costello (with their language) knew and understood that one of them was going to die.
It had to be done in order for Louise to finally understand. Brutal.
It's kind of funny because watching the movie you feel anxiety about the rogue agent sabotaging the ship, thinking the aliens may take that as a sign of hostility. Meanwhile, the aliens know all along it's going to happen! 🤣
The best on these Arrival reactions is imminent impact on parents. You can definitely see how the twist affected The Oak. Learning that Louise knows her whole life and knows how her daughter's life ends is brutal and it's making the movie one of the best "life purpose" movies of all time. It's not sci-fi about aliens, it's about being parent and its life journey despite it's tough sometimes. I'm tearing up every time.
Louise wasn't special, she just understood the language. The language itself is the weapon. Like the theory they were talking about earlier in the movie, learning it rewired her brain, so she perceived the world differently. Once she really understood the language she could experience the future and past at the same time. Time for her became non linear like the language. Since the language requires the writer to know everything they want to say, starting from the end and the beginning and meeting in the middle, and know how much space it takes up before it is written, they need to be able to perceive time in the same way they write in order to do that effectively. The film itself is simply trying to replicate that by giving flashes of the future during the movie even though, Louise wasn't necessarily seeing her future at that point in time. Once she understood the language, the movie is essentially how she experiences her life.
She was the only one person on earth who understood that language..... so she's special
@@the_jolly_bunny yes and no, it's not said directly in the movie but it's implied that at least the russians linguists also understood/were beginning to understand but they were killed before they could move forward cause their government was scared. every other side had somewhat been learning the language in some way, china deciding to attack made everyone panic, louise just refused to let her own government make the wrong choice by actually using the "weapon". she's a linguist to her very core, that's why she never gave up on understanding and I'm pretty sure any other linguist that had that same passion would've been the same if they were in her place, and since she does teach the language later on it means it's not that she's special for learning, she was just the first one to open her mind towards the knowledge.
I'd call it a tool, not a weapon.
@@TheRealGSmith Me too.
I love when people watch this movie... when the realization of what's really going on hits... it's something not to miss. I'm glad you guys chose this to react to, it's an incredible movie. One of my favorite sci-fi movies with aliens. This movie is 100% re-watchable... Once you know what's going on, you can go back and catch all those small details you missed because you were so confused... and honestly, this maybe is always beautiful no matter how many times you see it. And you guys were right, while there were aliens in the movie, it was not about the aliens at all... the aliens were the catalyst, they were what caused the scenario of "if you knew... would you change anything." Without them, she would not have known. She might have still somehow met Ian if it was meant to be, and they would have had the baby, and both of them would have been in the dark, but they would have still enjoyed their daughter, and loved her... and I guess that's the point, why would you change it?
There is a great interview with Eric Heisserer, the writer of the film who adapted the short story for Villeneuve. The short story was a little different and the aliens only communicated with the humans from space. So the writer actually changed a lot of stuff to make the story more „cinematic“ while keeping the main theme of Luise, her daughter and her painful future at the center of the script. I think this is as good as an adaption can get
It hits even harder when that shot of her daughter shouting “I hate you” in the beginning was the moment she put together that her mom knew all along that she would die. I’m assuming she remembered the conversation with Louise a few years earlier about why her father left and the disease she mentioned.
I didn't get that take-away from the shot: Just that Hannah (before she got sick) had grown from small child to adolescent - with the emotional 'drama' that comes with that. :)
@@anorthosite I thought that at first too, but I think that’s the takeaway you’re supposed to have on first watch when you don’t know Louise sees time in a loop and before we see the conversation with Hannah about her father leaving years prior to her diagnosis. I don’t think there’s any right answer, but after a few rewatches and knowing what we know about the plot, that shot seemed more intentional than typical teenage angst like it’s originally presented.
I cried after the first viewing. Everything that happened was so unobtrusive and difficult to comprehend. For me, this film is in line with the Interstellar
Both are top 5 all time for me.
I loooove movies that you can't "shake off". You just keep thinking about them even after hours of watching them. Arrival is just that. Great reaction as always guys😍
We talked about that off camera. Those kind of films are great when they do that. Impactful and leaves their mark.
The Oak is genuinely (or has become) amazing at calling stuff in movies. From a movie he caught a few minutes of to calling the time loop craziness in this movie! So awesome!
(This is an added edit): wow! Wow, wow, wow. The Oak knocked it out of the park with that analysis. I can’t say it better, so I’ll just leave it at that, but wow. Such an insightful commentary.
I loveeee this film! I like how they told the story with subtlety. Most sci fi films are so wild and go all out, but this movie had a very simplistic approach in terms of tone, special effects, and even colors.
Idk if I explained it right hahaha
So amazing that learning the language was the gift they intended for humanity to help them in 3000 years time and as to why she was having "flashbacks" as time isn't linear so she was subconsciously time travelling while learning the language. One of my favorite movies of all time. Thanks for reacting.
This… movie made me weep when I first saw it. It’s absolutely captivating for me. Glad ya’ll enjoyed it
I love the director’s visual style and storytelling, which is seen throughout the rest of his films as well (BladeRunner 2049, Dune, just to name the big ones).
It makes me weep every time I see it. I have tears in my eyes right now.
LOVEEEEEE this reaction, loved the theories you were throwing at each other. Love the moment you guys were discussing what was really going on, love it, love it, love it. I would be the girl saying "thank you for being smart and making me understand". I really enjoyed the collaboration, can't wait to see if you guys do it again.
Glad you enjoyed! This movie was wild!
@@BaddMedicine it really is. Still watching the review, I liked the way Diamond did a recap of the movie, amazing review.
I ADORE this film and LOVE your guests. If you haven’t done Contact, with Jodie Foster, you MUST! Seattle is sending you love. 💜
Cheers from Wisco! We can add that to the list. Glad you enjoyed! And thanks for watching with us.
I get what Mason was saying about not being able to recapture that experience of that reveal at the end, but this movie is definitely one to rewatch now that you know it. There are so many little things that will take on new meaning on a rewatch.
I highly, highly recommend reading not just the short story by Ted Chiang that this was based on ("Story of Your Life") but other works by him- he's an incredible writer and has some really great ideas. This story is not about time travel, so there's no discrepancy about her telling him one time and then keeping it from him another time. The movie is just told out of order, in a circular fashion, as that is how the aliens see time, and taught Louise. It's a brilliant, brilliant experience.
Really glad Oak loved this one and gave it a well deserved 5/5. No offense to the others but I felt like they just didn't fully understand the movie and it's emotional weight, and it was kind of frustrating to watch but Oak's analysis saved the day.
This is easily one of my favorite movies ever because the of the writing and reveal of the plot, I love stories that take you for a ride and make you really think about everything. I don’t get how they think this is confusing, they literally explain everything in the movie. He doesn’t understand that the reason the movie started with the daughter dying is because its an explanation of the whole non linear language, the end is the start and the start is the end.
Language is the "weapon."
In 3000 years they need humanities help.
The language is the key to changing human thought. If we all understand time differently, we will cooperate instead of misunderstanding each other.
ahhhhh!!!! That makes sense.
Thank you Mr flix about the cancer thing?!! I lost my dad 3 years ago to cancer it's the hardest thing to watch them just to shrink away to nothing and the pain they experience is unbelievable!!!
Makes me sick that so many people think it's totally OK to willingly put a child through that just so the parents will have good memories. What about the child's feelings? Their memories? Their pain? My uncle died a few years back from a liver cancer. We went to go see him in his last days. He wasn't awake. He was on a very strong painkiller which kept him out. Otherwise he'd be screaming in pain. Who in their right mind would put anyone through that?
@@druidriley3163 I totally agree with you 100%
Yes, I've been waiting for this one!!!
Little fact about the movie : the dying words of the General Shang's wife was "In war there are no winners, only widows" which I believe really ties everything together. Thank you for this reaction, it was absolutely lovely! 💛
The whole movie is a palindrome, it starts and ends the same way. The beginning is _actually_ the future, not just a vision. However, the movie makes you think she’s already experienced it, but actually gives away the whole twist in the opening narration: “We are so bound by time, by its order…now I don’t believe in beginnings or endings anymore.”
People seem to get tripped up thinking that the opening was known to Louise before they arrived but that was just a narrative choice to throw viewers off.
All of the actual “flashbacks” we see of Louise’s daughter only start _after_ she starts understanding the heptapod language. If you rewatch, after the first time she starts grasping it she sees the first real vision of Hannah.
This movie is incredible and Amy Adams’ performance becomes even more impressive the second time around. You may not consciously _get_ it but there always feel like something is _off_ when we see Amy reacting to the images of Hannah. It’s only after you realize that she’s confused because she doesn’t have a child to you really appreciate how amazing of an acting job it is.
There is one line from “Steel Magnolias” that really hits home with me while watching this film….
“I’d rather have one minute of happiness instead of a lifetime with nothing special.”
That’s exactly the choice given to Amy Adams’ character, Louise, and that quote was her answer. (Too Bad y’all wouldn’t watch that film.)
If you noticed, all of these scenes with Amy and the daughter were all at sundown, the twilight of the day, representing the end.
When she is with Abbott & Costello and Renner, it was always foggy/cloudy. She couldn’t think clearly as she fights with what she thinks is a past memory that she knows she did not have, and comes to understand that it is the non-linear future she sees. Then she comes to terms with the fact that she will have a child that dies. Her thoughts are more clear, even though they are still dark (late evening). It is a dark future that she chooses.
This film (not movie), this film completely captured my brain. I was deeply engaged the entire time and that’s what a film should do. Take you completely out of your world and existence and send you into a world where you are totally engrossed. You have no other thoughts of, like, “did I leave the stove on?” Or “what am I going to make for dinner tomorrow night.” It’s great that they took an everyday, old trope of flashing back to your past and it influences your future, to flashing forward to your future and it influences your future.
How original is that!? Mind bending! I agree with Mr. Oak. Nothing less than 5 out of 5 over here. Thanks for watching and sharing.
Original score is by Johan Johansson but the opening and closing track is by Max Richter called 'On the Nature of Daylight.'
The worst thing is after discovering his body of work, and being enthralled due to this soundtrack, Johannssen passed away a few years later. His loss is so hard, he wasn’t even 50, I don’t think.
@@crowquillgal1016 yeah he was great composer, Arrival and Sicario OST are some of the best made.
I knewwww Oak would understand the movie deeply, again awesome insight from him. This movie made me cry more than any other movie/show I've seen.
This is one of my top 10 movies of all time. I'm with Oak on this one, 5 out of 5 hands down, not even close. And let's not forget they created an actual language for this movie. The commitment of that alone makes this top notch. So many layers to this, and perfectly executed. Amazing movie. Im surprised no one ever mentions the curiousity of what the hell happens in 3000 years that aliens would need OUR help?! That is intriguing in and of itself. What a story. Thanks for the reaction!
The thing is, Louise never had a choice to change things. She wasn't seeing the future with the possibility of changing things. She was seeing exactly how her life played out. Their writing is from both the beginning and the end. Everything is already predetermined.
There is a parallel between Hannah's situation (their daughter) and Abbott. Abbott knew that he would die saving Ian and Louise from the explosion all along. He had no choice in the matter.
I studied this movie in a film course I took a couple years ago and I was so mesmerized by it! The way it teaches us how language changes people's perception of the world and time is so mind-blowing, I remember I was confused too when I finished it but then our teacher explained to us that Louise was able to have these little visions of the future from the very beginning because of the Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis that says the language you speak determines how you think and see everything, since she is a linguistics professor and knows a lot of languages she has developed this ability to conceive the world and time differently therefore see the future. I'm really happy you guys watched it and appreciate it as much as I do! Keep on the great work, you guys are amazing :D
It's a good hypothesis, but alas, not true. They discuss this in the behind the scenes of the DVD
So interesting to watch people analyzing things as it goes along, not opening their minds, instead of flooding with their own expectations. So easy to follow if you just let it in; not fighting it.
Oh my God! This is one of my favorite movies!!! I've seen it like 6 times, i showed it to like 3 different groups of people and it just gets better and better the more you watch it.
I'm so excited to watch this right now.
Oh right! I forgot to say why I love this movie so much.
I'm a translator, and an interpreter! I love language.
Everything you all were guessing at the begging was correct. But it just didn’t happen yet. This movie is like a magic trick.
Speedy road to recovery for Renner.
I always enjoy The Oak's post reaction comments and analysis. He really hits the nail on the head with this one. This movie hits so much different when you have children. I was crying like a baby at the end the first time I watched it
Appreciate you guys for having us on🙏🏼 god bless!
Watching your reaction made me appreciate the film more.
She can't change the future, she just perceived time in any order.
When she talked to the president of China, she didn't go back in time and know what to tell him. She "lived" the future before she lived the past, being able to hear what she said before she ever said it.
i love this movie so much, everytime i hear the first note of the first song, "On the Nature of Daylight" by Max Richter, i get teary eyed immediately.
"If you could see your whole life from start to finish, would you change things?" and entire movie based on one of the most profound questions i've ever heard
I think there is an extra reasons for the confusion we viewers go through - we are meant to be confused the same way the characters are confused, we try to figure out what's going on the same way the characters are trying to figure out the language. And...like Jeremy's character brings up at one point - learning a new language can rewire your brain. Amy learns their language and it rewires her brain - it makes time non-lnear for her. And the movie kind of rewires your brain to stop seeing it as linear storytelling.
The alien's language is their weapon, their tool, and their hope. If you learn it - truly learn it - you'll change, you'll have a power other humans don't have, you'll be able to manipulate others (and leave messages for yourself to make sure you do what is necessary). They kind of assimilate Amy to some extent and maybe other humans will eventually learn this as well, if they are studying the language. It's probably incredibly rare to have the compassion, empathy, and openness Amy's character has but there were probably at least 12 possible candidates around the globe.
Really for me this movie is a total 5. No matter how many times I watch it, the ending always tears me apart because it's absolutely heartbreaking to think of myself in a situation like this. It's in my top 5 movies. The perception of time in this is incredible. Fantastic reaction from everyone.
Have to tip my hat to The Oak. Deeply felt reaction to a deep film. Spot on analysis. Thanks for that...💐
Such a good movie. Amy Adams deserved the Oscar for this but she wasn't even nominated, didn't make sense. But she was the best from that year. It won Emma Stone for La La Land
It helps to not think too linear when watching stuff like this, instead think outside the standard, and see it in 3 dimensions. I'm glad Oak pointed out the emotional effect on Louise when she was breathing heavily in the suit and after she came out of the ship. People's actions are very much affected by the things around them, just like the soldier affected by fearmongering.
Its an excellent mind expanding movie and the score is definitely fantastic.
It's a 5/5
I love this film. It’s based on a short story I believe. I saw it at the London film festival premiere and there were a lot of tears, including mine. I cry every time. A lot of people talk about why she didn’t change things, but the point is she can’t. What happens happens. She now sees time like the aliens, from beginning to end all at once. It’s so sad, but beautiful at the same time. It’s insane that Amy Adams wasn’t oscar nominated for this. It’s also sad the composer died, as he was so talented.
I've watched scifi movies for over 60 years. This is one of the best. Right up there with the original "The Day the Earth Stood Still."
And I loved her child's name Hannah, the same forward and backward. Just like the heptapods view of time.
Time being non-linear is a theme present in many other works, and the idea that if you could see what's to come, it then becomes your past. It's what people use to explain feelings of deja vu and having intense intuition. It's one of life's greatest conundrums and so well done in this movie. Amy Adams was brilliant in this and that last shot when she's hugging Ian, and you can see on her face she was going to have her loves no matter the pain to come. I wasn't as confused as I was more curious. I think letting the movie unfold vs constantly questioning is a good to be less confused in general lol. I watched this movie twice, and I watch it every so often as there are things you don't pick up initially or even after multiple viewings.
Yeah, Louise was all about herself. Selfish.
i am SO happy that y'all reacted to this. i clicked on the vid without having watched the movie but with all the comments saying that this was an amazing film, i paused this video, went to watch it, and now i'm here to see your reaction! this movie is simply beautiful. Thanks for introducing it to me 👍🏽
She did not tell Ian the second time so they could make the journey together. She knew it was better to know the one they lost than to distance themselves from her and regret it later. What a great movie.
This is sci-fi at its best. It makes you think about your life, your decisions, society, humanity, morals, love, fairness, physics, culture, politics, world politics, how the brain works, what language is and so much more. 10 out of 10.
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This movie gets me every time I watch it. It's the age old question... if you what was going to happen, would you change things in your life? For me, no. My wife passed from cancer and I cherish every moment I had with her, good and bad. If i had to do it again, I would.
My condolences on your loss. But you didn't give birth to your wife. If you were going to give birth to a child _knowing_ she would suffer and die, would you still want to conceive her? YOU would be totally responsible for her suffering.
Most people think the flash forwards are flashbacks due to emotional trauma of having a kid and losing them.
Even though it's about her seeing the future and being confused by the experience.
It fits both situations perfectly. And that is genius in itself with how they portrayed it. Well beyond the short story.
It also is amazing to think about how Abbot knew that this mission would end with his/her death and came anyway.
The Oak absolutely nailed this reaction and his final thoughts! Thanks to everyone for this!
Ah I’m so glad you guys loved this one it’s one of my all time favourites, it’s all so incredibly well done and exciting and watching it even when you know what it all means it just is a whole new experience - such a cool and clever concept using the skills of a linguist to solve a potential crisis like this, I’ve never seen anything like it
I just want to send love and good Karma to Jeremy Renner. He’s got a long road ahead of him and I wish him love and hope. I really enjoyed this film and I enjoyed y’alls reactions and commentary as always. Y’all have been killing it lately!
As a father of a little girl, Ian deciding to leave because he didn’t want to have a strong connection with a daughter he knew was going to lose and also leave because he couldnt physically be around her without thinking of her time ticking away….wow dude it just hits soo deep in the feels. That pain is so strong I could feel it PERSONALLY through the screen
Also because he didn't want to be with a woman who was so selfish and self-absorbed.
@@druidriley3163 is a life less worth living because it will inevitably end?
@@druidriley3163you completely missed the point of the movie
@@Waveeee1004 No I got the point of the movie. It sounds like you didn't. Louise is basically a selfish person, whereas Ian is not. Did you ever wonder why they divorced? She manipulated him from the start to get her way. And she KNEW what she was doing was wrong because she hid it from Ian. It was not a nice divorce. She is bitter when she mentions him. He probably called her out on her lies and lies of omission and she couldn't take her selfishness being thrown at her face.
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She didn't manipulate him. She was seeing her future and past. And he cared for her. The baby was made with consent. She wasn't selfish, and it's completely understandable that he can't handle being his daughter knowing she will pass.
You get the mind-blown experience once, but it's nice to go back and rewatch with the new understanding of the non-linear story. And it often makes me cry just the way she decides to still have her daughter despite what will happen.
one very important thing is that even tho she loses her daughter her mind has no time so she can live the life she had with her daughter anytime she wants until she dies
There are a couple hints throughout the movie that tell you what's going on. Both the writing example in the beginning, talking about writing a sentence with both hands. Starting at both the beginning and the end at the same time.
And, the multiple references to seeing or experiencing time as nonlinear. The story itself is also nonlinear. It also does a great job of playing on your expectations. We're so used to flashbacks that we initially assume that's what's going on. And that eureka moment when it becomes clear for you and you piece together that everything with Hannah is in the future.
It's probably my favorite science fiction movie. My pet theory is that there's only one ship that's in twelve places at once - that's why each location only gets about a two-hour window.
Good catch. My idea was that the ships weren't really there at all. They were just doorways to elsewhere. Like when Louise enters the pod.
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I watched this movie last year for the aliens but ended up loving the story itself so much more. Beautiful.
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This movie is beautiful. You'll never feel heartache if you never love, but that love is worth every moment of pain.
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This movie is amazing!!!!
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this movie is one of the most profound messages ive seen in a very long time. it really affects me to this day. it's very heavy
Yes yes yes, one of my absolute favorites! So excited!
Fuck, I remember watching this in theatres, and I was enthralled the entire time. When the movie was done, the theatre went into an applause. I turned to a random person next me, and I was like, "Man, that was great", and he wholeheartedly agreed. I then turned to the woman I was seeing at the time, to see what she thought, and she said: "Well, that was a whole lot of nothing."........ I never went out with her again lol. Director Denis Villeneuve was in his bag when he made this movie, and he continues to do great work. Easily one of my fave directors working today!
The depth of writing, ingenious editing, the purposeful imagery using cinematography, and supremely rich dialogue have created one of the most significant revelations in a film over the last few decades. “Who is this child” sent shockwaves through me at first watch because you realize they were flash-forwards. This movie still sticks with me and impacts my perspective since seeing it in the theater in 2016. “Despite knowing the journey” (referring to how complicated life can be) has to be the most thought-provoking contemplation on how we view our own trials and tribulations. I was fortunate to meet the film’s cinematographer Bradford Young in 2022 (look him up-you’ll be impressed with his stellar career). I was able to tell him how much this film and its intelligence and symbolism affected me. Your collective reactions were everything I felt when I first saw this! We’re all just in this journey of life together-but on separate paths.
23:07 This is actually true and it's amazing. I'm a language freak so this movie was life changing to me.
I'd like to give a few fascinating examples of this topic. For example in Spanish, the word bridge is masculine and in German it's feminine. So native speakers of these languages describe the same thing differently.
Spanish speakers will comment on how strong or sturdy a bridge is, while German speakers will comment on how elegant or beautiful it is.
Another example that is just MINDBLOWING is that in English we use an egocentric type of directional language (turn right, left, behind, in front.) these directions are relative to you as a person. While the Guugu Yimithirr language uses fixed geographical directions (North, East, South, and West) no matter the context. If you were to put an English speaker and a Guugu Yimithirr speaker in the same hotel, and put them in rooms opposite sides of the hallway from each other, the English speaker will see the exact same room (that person will see the desk to the right of the table and the closet in front of the bed or whatever) but the Guugu Yimithirr speaker will see a COMPLETELY different room because the bed will be facing south instead of north, and all of that jazz. Speakers of this language might even have a lower sense of egotism, because directions do not revolve around them, they're just another part of the picture.
What I just exlained is mosly from an article written on Alta in 2019 by Maria Diment.
She didn't change anything about the time line, she eventually tells Ian and they break up, which in the end is not a big deal the main thing is she had Hannah knowing she was going to lose her. Such a powerful movie.
This is such an amazing and deep movie. So glad to see your reactions!
One of my all time favorite movies, it's so powerful both mentally and emotionally. It's definitely the kind of story you have to allow yourself to be immersed into so you can see it unfold in it's own beautiful way. Absolutely a movie you can re-watch, the details and performances are beautiful.
This movie is a massive gut punch as someone who just lost their husband to an untimely death: if you knew ahead of time of an untimely death, would you do it anyway? I'm with her, I would do it all again in a heartbeat
I loved the Oak reaction and review, i always though that he was the least expresive, but after all that analisys i can now see how deep in his thoughs really is, because after watching the movie multiple times is when you start to realize things that he already did, like is not an alien story is not a love story is a palindrome, a story told from both ends that meet in the middle. But shows the importance of language, and how the way we talk and comunicate is pretty much the same way we think. But also give us this beautiful message that we as humans still have not stoped to fully understand each others languages, the way each of us think and how devided we are because of that.
The dauhter story line, is them showing her through her future how their "weapon" (tool, technology or knowledge) works, but at the same time, learning our languages (the 12 of where they landed) like a win win situation. Because they know that they will need this to happen, that's why they came, that's why one of them sacrificed while the other retired even though they both know that there was a bomb, they can see future, but they also understand the importance or the value of time, because for them, reality, time, everything in the universe works as a palindrome.
Sorry for the miss spelling if there's any, English is not my primary language. But Mr Oak, you just won another subscriber to this amazing community that you call channel.
Keep it up with the good content!
Fun fact, this movie was Denis making a Dune style movie before he knew he would adapt dune. The aliens are even inspired by the space navigators
It's actually a great 2nd watch, because you know flashbacks are from the future it puts a bit of a different spin on things :)
One of my favorite movies of all time. I have probably rewatched it at least 50 times. I love it every single time. It was so much fun watching all of you figuring it out and having those ah ha moments. Acting was incredible and the soundtrack was hauntingly beautiful. Great reaction!
" War doesn't make winners, only widows". The general's wife last words.
One of those films where the confusion doesn't matter at all, because the emotions (especially on the subject of communication) are simply predominant. And the film simply takes you with it in waves. I only saw the film once and cried terribly at the end. With you now again. 😊 Nice film and nice reaction. Thank you Badd Medicine and MrandMrsFlicks! And thank you Denis Villeneuve; always worth a look.
Normally I skim through the conversation at the end of your videos, and today was no exception. But, as I went through, I saw 4.25 and 4.3 and was like "Wait, what?" Then I stopped on time to listen to Oak absolutely rip into the heart of this movie. 5 out of 5 for me. Loved your insight, Oak
Such a brilliant film. The scenes we think are flashbacks are flash forwards. And the film highlights just how fascinating linguistics is--made me want to learn more about it.
Bloody brilliant! One of the best movies of the last 2 decades! ♥
In the book that inspired this movie, Louise illustrated how misunderstandings happen by remembering how her daughter once told her: "I want to be honored." She asks for more context and when she learns her daughter's friend was chosen for a special role at a wedding, she understand: "Oh, you mean she is maid of honor." "Yes, that's it! Can I be made of honor?"
Also IIRC, in the book Hannah does not die from cancer but because of a rock climbing accident. But since you can't change the future, a simple accident becomes as unstoppable as a genetic disease.
Easily one of my FAVORITE movies